K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 1 Currently I can avoid hitting the net by doing completely no-spin
flat forehand or with some forehand slice. But it's very easy to
go long. Reverse forehand is better, since it has some topspin.
I think I haven't got the feeling yet. Maybe I'll try to 空挥 and
practice. |
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a*****a
发帖数: 415 | 2 mcenroe use continental forehand which is no longer an acceptable forehand
grip for competitive tennis anymore. no wonder you found his forehand sorta
awkward |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 3 He did it at least twice in the JudieYan video. His form was
neither running forehand nor reverse forehand though. Since he
is lefty, this only happened when Judie hit backhand cross court
or forehand inside out to him.
the |
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R*****n
发帖数: 610 | 4 Make sense.
Also:
0. keeping the ball low and top spin drop-over-net will give volleyer lots
of trouble.
1. hit to his forehand more. if he sliced back to your forehand, use your
forehand to pass or force errors on his volley.
2. also, always hit cross court when you force to hit passing shot. the net
is lower and you have more error margin.
every
power. |
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a*m
发帖数: 6253 | 5 From video, i am with KD.
Radio's backhand is weaker comparing with his forehand side, but not really
that weak... He can block the ball back with depth if you did not put
pressure on it. The kid 's pace is pretty good already, but just lack of
combination like three or four consistent attack on radio's backhand side.
His forehand moonball is not that easy to be attacked as well. Looks at his
placement, very deep(less than 3 feet from baseline) and in the middle with
topspin. It will not be eas... 阅读全帖 |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 6 我指象你这样到4.0想更上一层楼的女选手。不能用大于98的拍子，和你的击球技术有
关。我猜想你不用Semi Western或Windshield Wiper forehand，Spin比较少，碰到大
拍面球拍，东方式容易飞。如果你改了技术动作，用Modern Forehand，就会体会到大
拍面的好处了。我觉得用Mid对你的技术提高没有任何帮助。还不如买把Pro Kennex 5G
(119 - 10% off)，老老实实加强一下Modern Forehand。只是个人意见，随便说说。 |
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t*********r
发帖数: 630 | 7 nice both sides. Nice body rotation, footwork. follow-through. Overall very
solid forehand and backhand.
Observations on your backhand topspin..(may not be right, JMHO)
when you rotate to the side, racket head could be a little higher on your
backhand side. Refer back to your forehand, you should see the difference.
knee bending is nice. But not enough for some balls. While you take back,
drop your racket well below the ball to help generate the spin.
Compare with your forehand swing and follow-... 阅读全帖 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 8 Dude, the only winner in the two videos are from BH.
If you look at the 2nd video, a lot of his forehands are moonballs --
radiometrix style. Some forehands are really short.
One thing I admire him is that he can hit running forehand and
backhand with very high consistency (even though they are moonballs). |
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 9 1 forehand net clearance
2 forehand depth
3 backhand net clearance
4 backhand depth
5 forehand directional
6 backhand directional
( cross court, down the line, inside in, inside out)
7 slice serve, focus on placement
8 return (include chip return)
9 drop shot and lob, focus on quality
10 flat serve with angle
11 kick or topspin serve, focus on adding more spin
12 volley and overhead
13 serve/volley, chip & charge
14 running shot, focus on balance and recovery |
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a*m
发帖数: 6253 | 10 very nice.
If you can lower your elbow on forehand follow thru that will be even better
...
Just copy your backhand follow thru to your forehand, that may make your
forehand whipping more relaxed... |
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g*****n
发帖数: 76 | 11 Men's side:
forehand without pressure: Fed
forehand under pressure: Djokovic
reverse forehand: Nadal
Women's side:
On hard court: Clisters
On Clay: Henin |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 12 modern tennis emphasize rotatioinal momentum vs linear momentum from
traditional tennis. Espcially forehand side, you see more extreme grips like
semi-western or western. A lot more Wind Shield wiper stype style forehand,
follow-through finishes below shoulder. Modern forehand and backhand can
use open, closed and neutral stances. For quickly recovery defnitely use
Open Stance. |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 13 By TOM PERROTTA
How did Novak Djokovic conquer the tennis world?
Maybe the answer is as simple as this: Since last year, he's swearing off
pasta, pizza, beer, French bread, Corn Flakes, pretzels, empanadas,
Mallomars and Twizzlers—anything with gluten.
It's no secret that Djokovic has had a breakout season, or that he has been,
by any reasonable standard, the world's best athlete of 2011. On Sunday, he
beat Rafael Nadal in the Rome Masters, his fourth-straight win over the
Spaniard. It was his s... 阅读全帖 |
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u***r
发帖数: 4825 | 14 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: umner (jhq), 信区: Military
标 题: ESPN: Li Na tops Francesa Schiavone for title
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jun 4 12:11:10 2011, 美东)
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/french11/news/story?id=
PARIS -- China's long wait for a Grand Slam champion ended Saturday when Li
Na beat Francesca Schiavone 6-4, 7-6 (0) in the French Open final.
The Australian Open runner-up celebrated by falling flat on her back in the
red clay after Schiavone hit a backhand long on match point.
[+... 阅读全帖 |
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i*********r
发帖数: 5101 | 15 What Fish Needs to Do Against Nadal
By GEOFF MACDONALD
Mardy Fish has never beaten Rafael Nadal, and will have to play the match of
his life to win on Wednesday. He has to formulate a shrewd game plan,
matching his strengths against Nadal’s one or two less than stellar
tendencies, then quickly recalibrate when Nadal makes a subtle adjustment.
For, more than any top player, Nadal taxes you mentally as well as
physically. He not only exhausts his opponents by running them coast to
coast, but also ... 阅读全帖 |
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x*d
发帖数: 1696 | 16 Like a468950 said, go with what the coach recommended. For private training
like tennis and piano, you really have to trust your coach. If not, try
another one with reputation.
Your friend of good tennis player doesn't necessary be a good coach, unless
he/she had already trained some young kids successfully. Coaching tennis is
a different profession from playing tennis.
But there are a few things better known:
1. Children's talents are perhaps more diverse than rackets. When my son was
in class,... 阅读全帖 |
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i*********r
发帖数: 5101 | 18 attacking the forehand was the right strategy at least in Na v. Kim's game,
Kim was really off on his forehand that match... kim obviously wanted to go
for big shorts, she could do it on backhand, but could not do it on forehand
at the moment since the weight on his left ankle. |
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w******n
发帖数: 13172 | 19 不侧身（转肩）的截击。。。除非真的来不及了
http://www.fuzzyyellowballs.com/video-tennis-lessons/net-play/v
The first step of the forehand volley is the pivot and shoulder turn. Coming
out of your split step, pivot with your outside foot and transfer your
weight to that foot, get the heel of your inside foot up, and turn your
shoulder sideways. Just like for a forehand groundstroke, the pivot and
shoulder turn is how you start to take your tennis racket back on your
forehand volley, but there are a few differences. |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 20 FakePro's serve, including the 2nd serve, is reasonably stable
that can put constant pressure to a 3.0 returner like old 3.
His forehand, no matter how weak, is still more threatening than
old 3's forehand.
Volley is useless in a singles match between FakePro vs old3.
Therefore, the only chance of old 3 is to grind out FakePro's
backhand, which will be tough. FakePro is used to hitting forehand
insideout shots, while old3 cannot finish short balls as comfortably
as his opponent.
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T*********0
发帖数: 4816 | 21 同意asus的看法。
LZ的forehand swing正好同我的forehand swing相反。我的forehand swing是
backswing太短了。我需要增加一些backswing，LZ可能需要减少一点backswing。 |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 22 应该可以work, 我一般回这些to forehand slice 都不够aggressive, 就spin + deep
to the middle, 或是些mediocre cross-court. 你完全再用你的forehand压制我.....
1. down the line to your Bh ==> low percentage
2. cross court sharp angle ==> difficult
3. forehand chip and go to the net ==> not my style
what to do.... hm... tennis 的确像下棋 |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 23 Ok the assumption is A's forehand can hold the ground against B's forehand.
If that's the case I would try to start with CC rallies, and wait for b to
give A a short shot to pound on Bs backhand. My opinion is B will have a
hard time to win point from A by CC rallies. Because he doesnot trust his bh
he would want to win the point quicker, so he might be the one take
initiative to change direction. Dtl on a heavy pace CC shot of highest point
if net is low percentage Tennis, even if he hits one A... 阅读全帖 |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 24 I think you are mainly referring to his forehand. It takes too much stress
on heavy shots. What do you think of forehand chip or slice. That should
alleviate a lot tension off his forearm, while it won't change his style too
much?
I think with improvement on slice/chip back and serve, he can be a very
solid 4.0. If to get to 4.5, I would say, forehand chip slice, dropshots and
volleys (in that order). This is without making too much changes to his
current style. |
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c*******n
发帖数: 1769 | 25 His way of forehand is the least possible to get TE.
If tennisfan has Judie's serve, he will easily be 4.5,
so it is not his forehand to be changed. Acutally, as I said
before, his forehand is one of the most effective here.
Most people does not really understand how tennis is
acutally played, just copy from pro and coach without
understanding the underlying physics and biology. |
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T*********0
发帖数: 4816 | 26 在我不得不奔跑去就forehand来球的时候，因为我的身体可能都会倾斜了，我forehand
的swing可以就比平时稍稍增大了一些，所以往往会打出挺惊艳，让对手吃惊的回球。
总之，我forehand覆盖的范围是挺大的，当然这个同我的跑动能力有关。 |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 27 没有偏激啊，被动的刷我也经常用，有时还弄个reverse forehand。我说的这种适合
Forehand Rally Ball或攻击时（尤其是攻击二发时）用的，尤其适合ATP style
forehand/windshield wiper。 |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 28 some suggestions:
against wall, you should use a relatively an old flat ball.
do not start the hit asap, hold your stance, pause and observe if everything
is correct, balanced? weight loaded on the correct leg? racquet up facing
back fence? shoulder turned? etc. etc...
set you goal to brush 10+ in the row with proper control and body balance,
you can rip it after you reach that goal.
*pay very close attention to where you load your weight as you hit your
forehand. if it's close stand, weight sho... 阅读全帖 |
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n**u
发帖数: 768 | 29 HENRY got good serve. Gorden got better technique (really has no flaw in his
game). Gorden will get even better when he get older and stronger. It must
not be Henry's best game. Henry should have a better (more consistent)
forehand than he showed in the video. But Henry's forehand relied too much
on the arm rather the legs and torso. The arm muscles are smaller and
trickier. Henry should really consider change his mechanics of the forehand
(by using the legs and torso rather the arms). He... 阅读全帖 |
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L*********n
发帖数: 185 | 30
grip
sounds
1. Yes It’s hard to find 5.0 players to play with, I played with
several 5.0 usta before but feel they are more like 4.5s. I decided to
train myself to the best shape and play Futures or other Opens within 5
years before turning 30s.
Back in Ames, Iowa, one Chinese professor (friend of mine), Mr.Wang helped
me hooked up with High school seeds No.1 Alex, 3 Victor and No.5 Victor. I
knew Alex was State Top 5 but not sure about the rest. I would really
appreciate if chinese fr... 阅读全帖 |
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d**********8
发帖数: 326 | 31 I think this is the kind of shot needs more thought, especially if you are
in higher level.
imagine you are facing this kind of situation. You have a ball coming to
your backhand corner, you can either use your backhand hit cross court back
for a good defense and come back to middle for the next shot. I think this
is best choice!!!
Or your backhand is super and you hit backhand down to line. Best shot!!!
Or as you mentioned here, you can run to your forehand and hit the insideOut
. you have to ... 阅读全帖 |
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d**********8
发帖数: 326 | 32 agree,
if you are 右撇子, for 右撇子 serve, serve in deuce side, Slice Serve will
be your forehand, hard to reach sometime but forehand anyway, so manageable;
serve in the ad side, due to the standing position, it is very hard to slice
serve on the T, not possible on the side T.
for 左撇子 serve, Ad court is their forehand, standing position gives them
open court to hit slice serve to the side line, if spring well, very hard to
get with your backhand.
However, 右撇子 with good slice serve should give simila... 阅读全帖 |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 33 also i feel her forehand might be changing from wta forehand to more of atp
forehand, not complete, but it's going toward that direction.
the
the |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 34 I do agree on the fitness part. It's also true that both are baseliners, but
Lendl build his game around his huge forehand, where Murray build his game
around his craft, mix up the pace, frustrate the opponent (although he often
get frustrated himself)
Base on what I read and heard, I think Lendl mentally is much more calm than
Murray during a match.
What lendl did to Murray is have him impose forehand more. Basically instead
win by out just out play the opponent, but also have some thing that
o... 阅读全帖 |
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G*u
发帖数: 97 | 35 Some of my friends also say my backhand looks better than forehand. But in
real games, my forehand is more consistent and can put the balls more
accurately with plenty of spins. What am working on for forehand is to loose
the grip and let the racket go with the swing. This gives me more power.
I've been working on my backhand for a while. I'm still trying to improve
the accuracy and spin. |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 36 Memorial weekend 参加了WTA 比赛。。。 Waco Tennis Association. :P 4.5级别参与
者18人， 幸亏最近人品不错， 第一轮拿到bye, 从round of 16开打。
第一个对手是个新升4.5。 草草瞄了下他过去的成绩感觉该是不错， 但不管怎么说是
个rookie 4.5, 感觉胜率还是比较高的。 谁知一热身就发现不对， 小伙子24， 打法
像模像样， 一看就是童子功出生。 虽是一惊但还是平静下来， 心说热身和比赛还是
不一样，真功夫还是得比赛开始才能看出。 比赛开始， 小伙子发球和我相似，上旋+
侧旋，但pace可能比我的还强些， 而且双误不多. 没法子只好稳扎稳打的拉rallies
压制反手。 第一局一个break ，6-3拿下。 双方都有了些了解， 我发现他反手比正手
要强， 经常会run around 正手用反手进攻 （是murray型的反手), 正手grip 偏
western些， 虽不怕我的上旋但进攻时会出失误。 于是就开始找机会多攻他正手,果然
见效第二局一开始我就先break了一盘。 而他确run around fore... 阅读全帖 |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 37 Yes, I think so. I didn't watch it as I was playing with xbd. I guess it's
probably blackdoss kept hitting into phantom's strength, which is forehand.
When I play with phantom, I thought I didn't give him many forehand chances.
My strategy playing with lefty is always my backhand (DTL) to backhand,
forehand to backhand, serve to backhand (1st and 2nd), and volley to
backhand. :) |
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x*d
发帖数: 1696 | 38 Come on, please provide some critic opinions, please be tough :)
Last year you pointed out I didn't have enough shoulder turn in forehand
preparation, now I feel I have corrected it.
My son still has stroke problems, especially on forehand side. His backhand
is pretty powerful, can even hit fast flat shot, but his forehand is almost
all something close to moonball. |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 39 I recently hit with a lefty who hit a big flat deep forehand. The ball just
skids forward after bounce. I stayed not far from baseline and still have
enough time to hit back with my forehand without being late.
The rule of thumb is FINISH YOUR BACKSWING BEFORE OR AT THE TIME OF BOUNCE.
This is not just finish your UNIT TURN. It's both UNIT TURN and BACKSWING.
Milliseconds after ball bounce, you should be already in the process of
forward swing.
Most mistake from people is that they look, wait, t... 阅读全帖 |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 40 When I hit 2hbh DTL for a winner, sometime I hit just a little bit long,
couple inches to a feet.
When I hit forehand DTL for a winner, sometime I hit it long. I hit it too
flat.
When I tried to attack a high ball over the shoulder using forehand,
sometime I hit it long due to the swing path problem.
When I tried to hit a cross court running forehand, sometime I hit it long
due to my opponent is already at net and I'm under a lot of pressure to
perfect the shot. |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 41 Do you have any tips about how to hit a violent running forehand?
I can only hit a defensive loopy running forehand. I am trying to learn how
to flat out a running forehand DTL (or sometime cross court).
hold |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 42 Watched this video again about how to hit effective running forehand with
reverse forehand. Looks like the end of footwork is very similar as
returning wide slice serve to forehand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhjbQDiEIOM
buggy |
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M******0
发帖数: 1280 | 43 你说的大部分是对的，只是一点
ATP forehand 又叫compact forehand. 男子力量大，不需要很大的back swing 来产生
power, ATP forehand 的目的是更好的驾驭power，避免击球点晚和不准
女子力量小一点，很多用big backswing 来产生足够的power。不过有时候对着女生说
ATP or WTA FH, 她们会觉得这样说是offensive, 觉得你认为女子的动作是低一等
forward |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 44 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0uCQBiH2Ko
ATP FH take back - (9:55-10:27) backswing phase the head of racquet stay
outside of the hand for the ENTIRE BackSwing stroke phase (That delays ATP
FH's 甩鞭 at the
last moment). That's why ATP Forehand creating much more racquet head speed
. (12:06) Hold hold hold at the last second get into the slot.
WTA FH take back - backswing phase the head of racquet is going to beyond
the hand (wrist lay back) right way. (12:17) racquet gets into the slot
very ve... 阅读全帖 |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 45 In that case, I'm also using ATP forehand.
It's because xbd thinks a better way is racquet tip pointing forward (
backswing like murray does), delaying wrist layback until the last moment (
delaying getting into the slot). Then somebody pointed out it's the main
difference between WTA and ATP forehand. I think for WSN, getting into the
slot early (layback wrist early) is a shortcut to learn an above-average
forehand
.
's
s
movement |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 46 Is the coach in red shirt ATP forehand or WTA forehand?
People on TW mentioned he's WTA forehand though. |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 47 "delaying wrist layback until the last moment (delaying getting into the
slot). Then somebody pointed out it's the main difference between WTA and
ATP forehand."
I don't buy that delaying stuff. And you don't need to have a strict ATP
forehand to have a good forehand. People always say Murray's FH has
technical flaws, I would not recommend you to copy his. To me, Nole's FH is
a text booked modern FH, and he does not have that racquet tip point forward
stuff. You can master the timing of it, it's... 阅读全帖 |
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m****z
发帖数: 978 | 48 My forehand started to improve right away after I started to "wait for the
ball". Got the tip from a great player. Haha. The extra time really made me
at ease, help me to stay relaxed.
But now against a big hitter and on return of serve, it is much harder to
create this wait. And my forehand quality will drop really fast. My 2H
backhand seems more versatile and can be very compact and just block the
ball back. But my forehand seems to be more of a one trick pony. Good for
offense but not very go... 阅读全帖 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 49 Coric has lost his forehand, or in another way, has never gained
his forehand. His forehand at 20 is as stinky as 17. On the other
hand, he does not want to be a pusher for life. But so far the
reality shows he is only good as a pusher.
He always has the choice to switch back to pusher mode and be
the next Simon.
I favor Nick the most.
他. |
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