F*****4
发帖数: 149 | 1 My overhead is pretty decent. I just need to be confident and play a lot in
a match without hesitation.
My problem is that I didn't even try to use it... I let go lots of
opportunities where I can actually finish the point over the net.
My forehand is pretty good that makes me a good base liner and I can hit
forehand winners from baseline, that is part of the reason I do not go to
the net often. |
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F*****4
发帖数: 149 | 2 My overhead is pretty decent. I just need to be confident and play a lot in
a match without hesitation.
My problem is that I didn't even try to use it... I let go lots of
opportunities where I can actually finish the point over the net.
My forehand is pretty good that makes me a good base liner and I can hit
forehand winners from baseline, that is part of the reason I do not go to
the net often. |
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M******0
发帖数: 1280 | 3 Forehand is his weapon now, and was improved based on the advices from
friends here. Any more issues of his forehand? Appreciate |
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a*****0
发帖数: 6788 | 4 多看这个ATP vs WTA forehand也挺有帮助。 虽然大家肯定都是想学ATP forehand，
但仔细了解这两的区别很有益处。 就是有个扎实的WTA式的挥拍在业余里也可以横行了。 |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 5 looks like a regular forehand grip to me, just not hitting a regular
forehand.
Just a note, I'm not good with grips lol |
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g***e
发帖数: 577 | 6 He will get a lesson. Bitching opponent is the worst and it usually means he
is less confident.
His forehand also not impress me at all.
When I looked at the highlight he wins by tactic shot not hard hitting.
His forehand is not that powerful when he runs. The preparation in his
strokes look
A minus for running rallies in my opinion.
t |
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a*****0
发帖数: 6788 | 7 forehand needs work. You hit every ball late and falling backwards on
forehand. |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 8 This is very common. Opponent hit a forehand cross court.
You hit a forehand to the middle of the court (his backhand side). |
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x*d
发帖数: 1696 | 9 Yes, that is the major left-over problem. By having left hand on the throat,
it forces you to turn your shoulder more, and makes the stoke more powerful
and consistent.
Same thing I 'Dun Wu' in this summer -- It's almost always correct to force
left hand going together with right hand in the preparation stage of every
stroke, because it subsequently forces shoulder turn.
For example, forehand, left hand on throat until it reaches the 90degree to
the right, can add a lot of power and spin.
Ove... 阅读全帖 |
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x*d
发帖数: 1696 | 10 是的，这个是下个目标。他天赋差，慢慢来。这个是他自己写的instruction：
How to hit a good forehand
Hi, my name is Eric, and today I’m going to teach you how to
hit a good forehand. First, you get in the ready position. This is the main
starting position. One: stand like you’re in line. Then, you bounce your
feet a little like you’re about to jump really high. Hold your racquet with
two hands in front of you, tilted slightly up. Now you’re ready to hit the
ball!
Now, turn to the right, and make the widest pa... 阅读全帖 |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 11 Your SHBH is more relaxed than Linhuchong's SHBH, and contact point is very
good.
Forehand side, what's your grip? eastern or semiwestern. I think if you want
to add more spin, your racquet face at the time of contact may be too open.
Although you tried to close the racquet face after contact/during follow
through, it doesn't help. If you learn a little bid windshield wiper, try to
attack the ball with edge of the racquet, you will have more spin and more
control when hitting forehand. That does... 阅读全帖 |
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M******0
发帖数: 1280 | 12 The form maybe wrong now, but the goal is the windshield wiper forehand of
Nishikori. See the video below. It is light year away, I know. But I think
if you make it right, this type of forehand is not weak and has good control
.
http://youtu.be/TO--9sXSJas |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 13 豆子是F1吧， 但camry or accord 还是很多人能享受的。
不少WSN对豆子的reverse forehand 也有misunderstanding, 所以 他们打出的reverse
forehand和豆子打出的只能说看上去相似， 实际上有很大的区别。。。 |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 14 I mean, when you're pulled really wide at forehand side, I saw some other
guy can rip a nasty flat running forehand on the run. I tried it, but it's
very tough to execute.
the
too.
the
still, |
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z*****k
发帖数: 600 | 15 Just saw your video, you were on the third video link. i don't think you use
straight arm for forehand hitting. So I don't really think you should
follow Federer's forehand hitting head body style. |
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m****z
发帖数: 978 | 16 To me beside the size of the court and net, it is all about recovery and
point building.
We hardly need to recover after hitting CC. Extreme example is CC inside
out forehand. You can still Park at ad side after that? Why? because the
other guy most likely hit CC.
DTL.
For example, when you hit DTL forehand from deuce side and you can not
finish the point, you have to run to the ad court to cover the most likely
return.
If you can finish the point, DTL is fine. If not, you will be running a... 阅读全帖 |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 17 As I play lefty a lot, I can hit my topspin 2nd serve to opponent's forehand
. Sometime when I play with "接发牛人", I hit a 2nd serve (from deuce court)
wide to his forehand (aiming to singles sideline), which surprise him and
got a weak return. Yeah, it's a lot of pressure when playing with "接发牛人"
. You really need to do a quick split step immediately after serve, so you
can react to save the ball. |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 18 Too lazy to watch again. One is a forehand. One is return of serve (also
forehand). Both hit the net below 50% position.
. |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 19 他用的是老头拍吧，打中了球很平不稀奇，虽然他在努力的拉，但是swing没什么加速
度，因为怕一不小心球就会飞。如果你朋友想自己generate power而不是靠拍子的
power, 想自己generate spin, 想提高kick serve技术(老头拍因为power 太大，很难
发kick serve)建议换个low power的拍子。另外要速成强烈topspin, 建议学semi
western forehand grip 和windshield wiper forehand, 他的随挥在肩上比较老式。
如果想继续平击路线，那就保持现在不要拉了。 |
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k****3
发帖数: 2770 | 20 Reverse Forehand在对付低球的是否很好用，可以拉出很多spin，但是要打好这种
reverse forehand不容易，拉短了就会给对手机会，所以要么拉大斜角，要么拉很高很
深，这种正手球要练出攻击力不容易。
buggy |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 22 high and heavy forehand inside out， 对付彈得高的球我不敢拉开角度的，不然对
我来说非常low percentage。而且他的moonball不是软绵绵的moonball, 也是high and
heavy forehand拉出来的，经常彈在baseline附近，搞都得我必须顶上去打on the
rise。 |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 23 i really should have check out more WTA younger generation before I make the
assumption, after Li Na mentioned Garbine Muguruza, I checker her strokes,
her forehand is also leaning toward the ATP style of forehand.... so many
next generation of WTA are heading toward ATP style of playing.... |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 24 对于职业选手，要发挥好，一个很重要的因素就是feel good factor. 练球时，对
timing, feel of contact，抓准自己的节奏， hit clean ball 更为重要。 要练这些
hitting partner 得能“喂” 有节奏有pace的球。 如果画圈圈练， hitting partner
不容于“喂”球， 练球的效果不见得好。 两个stroke 看似很不一样其实关键的也都
差不多， 主要不同的是follow through.
wsn 学这个reverse forehand 很多只是学会了个型， 和nadal的其实很不有样。 wsn
的contact 往往离身体近， 上旋主要是靠向上拉而出来的。 nadal 的reverse
forehand, contact is away from body, 上旋是flick 出来的。 这个对racquet head
speed 要求很高， 要consistently 打出clean 的这种球对一般人来说很难， 可能对
其他pro来说也不容易。 |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 25 今天WTA决赛几乎没有一个真正高质量的Inside out forehand。或者说几乎没有inside
out forehand。 |
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b**********s
发帖数: 9531 | 26 我想蜜蜂的意思是，wta水平低点，更接近wsn，虽然仍然比wsn高多了。
既然wta都不怎么需要run around forehand,那么wsn就更不需要了。
从物理角度“正手insideout/insidein的角度比反手要大”只怕是不成立的。但正手更
灵活，练习更多，力量更大，所以run around forehand比可以更快，更具进攻性。可
是given wsn跑速，其实反手角度打好了，也差不多够了。 |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 27 还有一种情况，如果是中场浅球，假如是一个floater (我有足够时间run around
forehand), 我如果用双反approach可以打出很wide的角度，而且很有信心成功率高。
如果我run around forehand inside out approach, 打出的角度要么不大容易失位，
要么压不下来容易出边界。在底线附近(doubles alley)附近打inside out 正手也有这
样的问题。你有过这样的问题吗？ |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 28 I'm watching the ball. Say opponent is going to hit a DTL shot to my
forehand, until he hit it, there is no way for me to tell it's going to land
a little short or a little deep, until it past net. It's not that I can't
get to the ball, I have enough time to get to the ball. It's just some of my
bad habit causing me late on this kind of Forehand. |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 29 I think what LZ meant is less to do with focus, more to do with form.
For example, my 2hbh form is much cleaner than forehand, I can probably hit
90% shot in and keep rally going all the time. My extreme semi-western
forehand is not that cleaner, there is a lot of variation from stance,
footwork, windshield wiper motion, contact point, etc, thus I may only keep
70-80% shots in like LZ does. |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 30 上次黑导说的ad court serve wide然后用forehand cc finish的pattern, 让我心痒痒
的，正好看完YouTube那个教练running forehand教程，以前看过他ad court kick的教
程，拿出来重看一遍。发觉讲得真不错。今天比赛试验了一下，感觉有点开了窍，ad
court 一发 kick有60%左右的成功率，能砸到边线附近，基本上对手要么DTL出界，要
么被我跟进轻松volley cross court。还没有试黑导的FH cc pattern, 因为我FH on
the rise不是特别好。一下是一些技术要点，接下来几场比赛争取趁热打铁，以后能够
own it:
Ad court kick serve: 1. Stand further away from center 2. Toss above head (
to the left) 3. Swing left to right, to side fence 4. Chest face side fence
through contact 5. Swing up, and sn... 阅读全帖 |
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z*****i
发帖数: 485 | 31 You want to try this?
Repeatedly hit to his backhand until he hits an inside-out/in forehand. At
that time, cut of his time(hit on the rise or come to the net) and hit to
his forehand corner. |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 32 Most of the shots coming from his 2hbh DTL are below Knee. I think it's
mixture of my forehand technique and anticipation. It's tough to judge the
depth of this kind of DTL shots though. And I need to improve my forehand
footwork on this kind of shots.
,
be
of
started
In |
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w********o
发帖数: 1231 | 33 我对这个战术的理解，它的目的不是真的攻击对方的弱点，当然对方反手弱，更有效果，
我觉得真正的目的是，"护短", "利己", 外加博弈。
一般这样 cross court 抽几下后，只要不太差，都会 run around, 打inside out, 这
种情况下，以下几点对自己的有利，
1. 对方变，打 有威胁DTL, it is a low percentage shot, let him hit it
2. 对方变, 结果DTL 打到中间，it is right at your power forehand's shooting
zone
3. 对方出浅，still at your power forehand's shooting zone
如果对方反手强，正手弱，那对手的 打出 2, 3 的可能性更大。
对方是 左撇子，原理一样，因为 "利己", 外加博弈。
所以上次大家说的 黑哥猛攻左撇子兄弟的反手(正手), 我看是这个级别的正确的战术
之一.
瞎扯这么多，纸上谈兵，见笑了 |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 34 不一定对所有人适用。接快速正手位发球，running forehand, wide slice serve to
forehand， 比较快的rally 低球时，在保证compact backswing的前提下，在
backswing的时候就可以lay back wrist， 这样可以在大多数情况下避免击球晚。当然
，这种快球根本没有时间翹拍头，千万不要把时间浪费翹拍头上，一般拉拍时拍头直接
下坠。 |
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S*****r
发帖数: 1272 | 35 I hope you enjoyed this epic match as much as I did.
I must admit that I was hoping for Roger to win another title but Novak was
simply too strong and deserved the victory.
Roger has improved again in recent months. His topspin backhand is more
consistent and at times even dangerous, which it wasn't in recent years.
He is also coming forward much more and he is very effective up at the net.
At the end of the day it still wasn't enough to beat Novak who was certainly
at his best form.
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j**h
发帖数: 480 | 36 看我猜得有没有道理，我猜你喜欢close stance 打正手，所以你击球时习惯左脚在前。
在侧身追球打running forehand, 你有时还是习惯性的左脚在前时击球，这时你身体还有
向side fence 奔跑的惯性，左肩根本没法转开， 一般人会来个熊抱，比如我自己，你
不会保护自己，直接戳胸口自残。我想解决办法就是MrClean 说的练横向移动的步伐，
open stance 击球，万不得已要侧身追球打running forehand, 一定要右脚在前时
击球，同时左脚一个cross over 刹车，就不会戳胸口了。
参见这个示范：
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74r0IpWA-VU |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 37 [序言]
2015 Indian Wells 40+ 4.0 national刚刚结束，感觉就像做梦一样。在dbg的提议下
，我觉得把整个过程写下来的确是个好主意。既避免忘记一些细节，又可以分享一些比
赛技战术和心理经历。只是我文笔较差，写得比较罗嗦枯燥。
[Road to National和准备]
我参加usta 10年，单打比双打强，今年春夏usta基本上只打单打。先罗嗦一下我怎样
才有这次national的机会。原先参加了New Jersey两个4.0队和Delaware一个4.0队，都
没能过district这一关。本来以为今年usta season已经结束，不料宾州一球队队长跟
我联系,该队铁定进district，需要单打选手。给我安排了一场rescheduled match, 一
场default, 让我赶上了PA district的末班车。值得一提的是，我队原先的一个二单主
力选手从此就没有上场的机会，队长只能对他说抱歉。
8/29周末District三场单打全胜。9/5 周末US Open Party跟5z和north Jersey各位高
手的拉练效果不错。只是打得太多... 阅读全帖 |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 38 祝大家新年快乐! 月月涨球!
2015是我涨球最多的一年，以下是我2015回顾。
1. 去年冬天在地下室对着镜子做正反手volley shadow swing, 提高了volley动作，尤
其是双打中的reflex volley
2. 读the art of doubles, 提高了双打positioning
3. 夏天开始练inside out Forehand, 提高了步伐。又对正手提高开了一扇门
4. 提高了正手approach shot
5. 练接发球步伐，提高了return Forehand wide serve的能力
6. 秋天usta national 令人难忘的经历
7. 继续提高正手，感觉一下子click了，解决了以前late timing问题。对避免golf
elbow帮助太大了。
8. 终于被bump 成4.0们人见人欺的弱4.5
另外，地下室DIY装了两面大镜子，对我shadow swing纠正动作帮助太大了。 |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 39 按照YouTube和Talk Tennis上的说法， WTA和ATP最大的区别在于backswing和forward
swing before reaching the contact point. 所以后来人都以此来区别WTA和ATP
forehand. 雨刷属于follow through阶段，不属于讨论范畴。ATP Forehand最大的特征
是backswing时拍头指向前，在最后一刻才摔鞭，因为拍头向前摔鞭行程更长，需要更
快速，timing要好，产生的power更大. WTA FH 最大特征是提前wrist lay
back (拍头一般不指向前)，甩鞭行程短，容易timing, 产生的power/rpm相对小些。
我觉得这个讨论是本版最健康最有益的讨论之一，对我们正手理解，定型，提高非常有
帮助。 |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 40 I like the trajectory of the FH and BH of yours when you're hitting from the
Far side and when you didn't make errors.
About your friend, maybe due to his footwork, he is hitting a lot of his
ground strokes late. Forehand side, when ball is deep, there is no adjusted
footwork or attempt to hit forehand in front of his body, that's most
crucial. The ball trajectory of his backhand doesn't look very penetrating,
it's probably that he's also hitting BH a little bit late or he doesn't have
a clean ... 阅读全帖 |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 41 ... saw your shadow swing again... I wouldn't exactly call that an ATP FH.
From the shadow swing, it's more of a slap forehand. Your take back is fine,
but maybe because you purposely try to delay the wrist layback you don't
have much forward swing motion. This is evident of your right elbow really
didn't go forward through, it stayed close to your torso and went across,
along it dragged the arm and racquet, because of this arc-like motion, and
the racquet face is facing outward, it's more like ... 阅读全帖 |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 42 haha you are too flattering. :)
All the point you listed are very good. You must have a monster forehand now
or at least on the way to get a monster forehand.
relaxed
for
advices |
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R********n
发帖数: 243 | 43 东西巅峰大决战 第一单打4:6 3:6
黑道 2016.02.16 战神
分子 分母 0 ACE 1 分子 分母
2 DOUBLES 1
58 73 79% 1ST SERVE % 71% 40 56
30 58 52% 1ST SERVE WON 63% 25 40
5 15 33% 2ND SERVE WON 50% 8 16
2 FOREHAND WINNERS 3
2 BACKHAND WINNERS 3
4 TOTAL WINNERS 7
11 26 42% NET POINTS WON 50% 6 12
36 FOR... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 44 自从有了左撇子球友，我（右撇子）倾向进攻尽量搞cross court forehand。这样的进
攻，左右通吃，甚好。
打球太聪明，过多使用down the line forehand（比如老费），就会栽在左撇子上面。 |
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m****z
发帖数: 978 | 45 Just keep in mind. String preference is very subjective. It is closely
related to everything else about you or me.
I am 2HBH baseline top spin hitter, prefer top spin serves.(Translate, I
like poly string for spin and control). My regular racquet is Head Radical
MP (low power, very flexible, dense pattern). I prefer thinner strings and
that have some power but not too much. I have a little elbow/shoulder
soreness due to jerky follow-though on serve and forehand in match play,
when I am tight.... 阅读全帖 |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 46 extreme modern forehand(nadal) vs extreme classical forehand(del po)...
author favors the modern game. Everyone else, more or less is just a hybrid
of the two |
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y*h
发帖数: 2121 | 47 这文章第二段里认真地提到了2-3时的这一局的裁判的改判：
“On one game point for the Belgian, the chair umpire, Cedric Mourier, got
down to overrule a Nadal forehand as having hit the line. Goffin was
incensed, stating it was the wrong mark. The game eventually resumed, with
Nadal levelling at 3-3 when Goffin hit a forehand into the net. ”
只是没说谁对谁错。。。
呵。 |
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D*******e
发帖数: 12862 | 48 你非要谈技术的话我也不是不可以谈，我只是不介意其他方面的话题而已。。。
我至少可以指出老桑和纳豆的一个技术层面的相似之处，那就是正手，deep
penetrating forehands,以及running forehands...刚才老桑那篇访谈里，note他主要
是mention了rafa的正手，而没有提其他人的。。。每个人可以有自己的解读，我的解
读就是在current player里，老桑最认可的正手是rafa的，他甚至也有可能在imply他
自己的和rafa的，是atp的all time最强的正手。。。 |
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f******e
发帖数: 198 | 49 嗯，同意。老费说话还算比较实诚，说道波特罗的正手是否最强，他说他觉得是纳达尔
，blablah,最后说
‘He drives through the ball perfectly. I think a lot of juniors actually
should look at that forehand as a great forehand.’
其实再读一遍似乎也没有任何不敬，只是纳达尔实在太谦虚了，不知道是内心就是那么
谦虚，还是做出来的... lol |
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D*******e
发帖数: 12862 | 50 来confirm一下，老费这段奶豆子的话又是何时说的？就这两天吗？还是以前？
“So okay, enough of Bjorn. But Rafa [Nadal], he's been such a wonderful
champion and a good friend of mine on the tour, one of my big rivals for
life, that it's just nice to be able to spend some time with him and support
him," Federer added.
"If I can help him, great. If he can help me, even better. Finally, after
all these years, I get a chance to actually support his forehand, his
aggressive play, his everything, his fighting spirit. Everything before wa... 阅读全帖 |
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