b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 1 Yeah, she is using modern (ATP) finish/follow through with WTA takeback/
foreward swing.That's I'm using right now. From the video where the coach
talked about difference between WTA & ATP forehand, it's still belong to WTA
forehand category (due to her backswing & forward swing before contact), so
is my forehand.
Also this video is pretty old, probably before she modified/improved both
forehand and backhand takeback. Now her forehand and 2hbh takeback is more
compact, which I like.
one
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c*********e
发帖数: 1389 | 2 gilbert build up 1-2 ( serve-forehand) for andy. it seems works against most
players but not roger. why? because:
1. their forehand techniques are different. andy firm wrist gives him powerful
and consistent killer shot, however this needs stable stand to unload. but
federer's snapping wrist allows him to generate power and spin on running.
everytime andy run around to unload his forehand, he is pressing himself-he
must come up with excellent shot or federer will punish his forehand open
court, |
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x*o
发帖数: 1037 | 3 昨天跟一NCAA DIII的player打比赛
他的forehand特平，我超西方握拍 很不适平
一上来他hold,然后我发球被破，主要是开始发球太软 被他的forehand killer打得没脾
气
后来发现对方发球不怎么样，于是从接发球开始aggresive，压他的反手。他的反手很c
onsistent,一不小心就被他的反手压到我的反手，然后等待浅球killer forehand fini
sh.
其中我试过topspin down the line 压反手上网，频频被lob,郁闷.
不过在底线用很深的topspin调动他,倒是连破他三个,气得他直摔拍子.
只怪自己一个没hold住,关键的时候有几个机会没把握住,最后3:6 落败
虽然输了第一个，倒是觉得自己感觉来了
可是young gun说累了，不打第二个set, 有点遗憾。
约了下星期再打。
总结：
1。 young gun真是powerful, 如果有浅球在forehand的位置,基本上都是clean winner
。
2。他反手控制不错，挺闻的，我觉得我主要就是输在反手控制不如他，反手相持基本都
是被他控制。
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 4 i view it differently.
you know Federe and Sampras can dominate not because of their backhand.
backhand just for transition shot. the main goal is to keep them stay in the
game and seek good opportunity attack with their strong forehand. because
their forehand are so flawless, all the opponents are trying to avoid
hitting their forehand, and cover their court more on forehand side, that
gave extra space for them (Federe and Sampras) to win down the line backhand
. needless to say, federe master |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 6 @_@
My forehand is a lot more 抗击打 than backhand in a match, hehe.
In a real match I wouldn't hit that hard and my forehand is fairly
consistent if I don't hit hard.
I almost never dared to DHBH in matches but I doubt I could handle
my opponent's forehand. My SHBH is obviously weaker than my
forehand in both power and consistency.
Again, this is when I play with the same level players. |
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c***t
发帖数: 1216 | 8 find this by chance, might apply to you
5 different forehand endings
By Patrik Broddfelt
Have you ever had a professional tennis coach who told you to finish your
forehand one way even though it felt awkward, and the ball didn’t go where
you wanted? Then you need to continue to read today’s article because this
article is going to make you think different.
You can end your forehand in five different ways. This is true, and it might
even be other ways on how to end your forehand. However, in tod |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 9 If you intend to switch, then it's better just to do this
(assuming both are right handed):
1. You hit forehand cross court.
2. Partner hits forehand down the line.
3. you hit backhand down the line.
4. partner hit forehand cross court.
5. you hit forehand down the line.
6. partner hits backhand down the line.
etc. |
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t****i
发帖数: 4225 | 10 He always takes videos of his students, and then makes some clips to show
how you hit with your forehand, backhand, serve...... For example for
forehand, he isolates many frames to show how I set up my back foot, how I
load up my hip, how I prepare the backswing, how I transfer my weight, where
is the contact point, whether the racquet face is too close or open, etc.
He will identify problems and find out ways to correct them, just like doing
surgery. He splits my forehand motion into many pa... 阅读全帖 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 11 Thanks for the advices.
My least satisfied aspect about forehand is the running forehand.
My form looks very wrong. I either need to learn reverse forehand
or completely re-do my running forehand.
Regarding the advices on serving: unfortunately both items are
too difficult at this stage.
I have tried 1, but as you may notice,
my right leg always leaves the ground too early and it doesn't
provide any force at all. Without that being solved, the "loading
stage" is just a pose. I have noticed my ri... 阅读全帖 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 12 My level according to the chart:
forehand: between 3.0 and 3.5, depending on what "moderate pace" is.
backhand: 2.5.
serve/return: 3.0.
volley: 2.0, except replacing forehand with backhand. My backhand
volley is considerably better than forehand.
special shots: 2.5.
playing style: 3.0.
IMO 所有都达到了才算达标. But I don't compute this way. I would
imagine someone who is 3.0 in all aspects and try to see if I can
beat him. I am 2.0 in volley, but there is no way a 2.0 player can
beat me, because I hit wit... 阅读全帖 |
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d****t
发帖数: 1284 | 13 that's a passing shot winner. it's a winner, no doubt, but it doesn't
represent his real backhand level, during baseline exchanges, his backhand
is not a weapon, just not a liability. the variety of his forehand is his
weapon.
radiometrix has more action on his forehand than this guy, and his shots
are a lot deeper. moonball with no spin cannot compare with moonball with
a lot of spin.
if you admire his running forehand and backhand, you should be a fan of
me, because my running forehand and bac... 阅读全帖 |
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c*******n
发帖数: 1769 | 14 double handed forehand
single handed forehand
double handed backhand
single handed backhand
double handed forehand slice
single handed forehand slice
double handed backhand slice
single handed backhand slice
You name it.....
I never watch any youtube coaching videos
so I do not know how tennis is supposed to
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 15 我看了一下这人的其他录像，得到了一个跟你完全相反的结论。
他有几个11年的forehand练习录像，其实他的正手可以挥出
挺快的拍头速度，为什么比赛里基本就看不到呢？他最大的问
题在于forehand找不准点，以至于打forehand的时候心里有
阴影，不敢像练习里一样去挥拍，而是compromise了，降低
了挥拍速度。这样一来，平时的练习其实根本就没法用到比赛
中去。如果他不compromise，应该是表现为挥拍速度还是很
快，但是miss hit比较多才对。毕竟谁会觉得挥拍慢的动作
漂亮呢。
而且你看一下他11年的一个forehand error的录像，可以看
出来，他今年已经比那个好多了，进步还是很明显的。 |
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n**u
发帖数: 768 | 16 I did not see any WS in Gorden's strokes. He did attack Henry's backhand
more (rather attack Henry's forehand when he got a chance). But I think
that is just his play style (not because he plays with Henry). Obviously
Gorden is still a teenager. He is not built with big chest and arms. He
normally plays with bigger/stronger opponents with more powerful forehand
than him. His forehand got good spin, good depth and decent speed (but not
great speed). He did not hit many winners off the FH. B... 阅读全帖 |
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l**7
发帖数: 3940 | 17 进军美网八强！ QF 挑战马卡洛娃！ yay
Written By McCarton Ackerman
Sunday, September 1, 2013
WHAT IT HAPPENED: The round of 16 women’s singles match between No. 9 seed
Jelena Jankovic and No. 5 seeded Li Na figured to be one of the most tightly
contested matches on Sunday's slate at the US Open. As it turned out, the
Chinese susperstar's authoritative ground strokes, along with some poor play
from Jankovic, allowed Li to dominant from start to finish in a 6-3, 6-0
win.
"I know Jankovic is always a tough oppone... 阅读全帖 |
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d******t
发帖数: 583 | 18 与其炒炒闹闹，比如上个录像，碰不到一起，就
按照黑导的drop feed大法，底线后一米连续drop feed the following 8 balls,
录下来
1. deuce court forehand cross court
2. deuce court forehand down the line
3. deuce court backhand cross court (inside out)
4. deuce court backhand down the line (inside in)
5. AD court backhand cross court
6. AD court backhand down the line
7 AD court forehand inside out
8 AD court forehand inside in
看看placement, net clearance, bounce depth and height, form,
最好atm能从金库里拿点伪币award 票选前三的同学：）
pk只是个小动力，这其实本身就是个不错的练习，黑导应... 阅读全帖 |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 19 What do you mean? Can you elaborate?
His forehand is very powerful. He mentioned to me that he does a full unit
turn, and just snap it. I think his racquet face is more closed. The
trajectory of his forehand is always low net clearance, that's why he can
hit wide angled inside out forehand with ease. As I mentioned, one night
when his forehand/backhand is 100% on, I was totally crushed by him. |
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c**********8
发帖数: 35 | 20
不是高手,跟你一样3.5 WSN.一般的正手你打得很好.问题在于不管running forehand,
late forehand or lunging forehand,你都用一般的正手stroke去打.但那些情况下都
无法利用转体来产生power,所以你的正手看起来都象用wrist snap去击球.正确的
stroke应该是往上挥拍,击球后follow through是在头上或头后.你可以看看油管上老桑
的running forehand,a thing of beauty.. |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 21 Interesting.
From my definition of ATP forehand, it's not ATP forehand
From 黑导's definition, it might be.
She is laying back wrist during early stage of takeback (without even
raising the racquet head).
This could be a very consistent forehand. But not much topspin as real ATP
forehand. |
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B******e
发帖数: 16928 | 23 Nadal and His Knees Look at Home Again On the Grass
After struggling in recent years at Wimbledon, Rafael Nadal looks like a
contender thanks in part to this year’s patchy courts
Spain's Rafael Nadal celebrates beating Russia's Karen Khachanov in a third-
round match on the fifth day of the 2017 Wimbledon Championships.
Spain's Rafael Nadal celebrates beating Russia's Karen Khachanov in a third-
round match on the fifth day of the 2017 Wimbledon Championships.
Wimbledon, England
At Wimbledon, un... 阅读全帖 |
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D*******e
发帖数: 12862 | 24 ok,我以前是没读过这片。。。我粉老桑是他还在打的时候，他退役之后我网球都不
follow了我到哪儿去读他退役后评价别人的这些话？
但是我把这片现在给狗出来了，让我们来还原一下老桑当时的原话。。。一个同时曲解
我桑和我豆的以讹传讹我岂能听之任之？
The players have become too much one dimensional,” Sampras said. “They
stay at the back of the court and wait for the opponent to commit the
mistake. It is harder to return to the net and easier to stay at the back.”
The former No. 1 who was known for serve and volley, says the net rushing
era has past, for now.
“That seems difficult because young players learn from the top... 阅读全帖 |
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u***r
发帖数: 4825 | 25 http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/french11/news/story?id=
PARIS -- China's long wait for a Grand Slam champion ended Saturday when Li
Na beat Francesca Schiavone 6-4, 7-6 (0) in the French Open final.
The Australian Open runner-up celebrated by falling flat on her back in the
red clay after Schiavone hit a backhand long on match point.
[+] EnlargeLi Na
AP Photo/Michel EulerLi Na became the first Chinese player to win a grand
slam tournament, ousting defending French Open champ Francesca Sc... 阅读全帖 |
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m****r
发帖数: 6639 | 26 there is a huge difference. the badminton birdie is always made to spin one
way. so, the slicing drops for left handed players are totally different f
rom that of a right handed player, depending if it is from backhand or foreh
and.
WARNING: you have to stupid to read what i say below.
for right handed players, the forehand strokes are much harder because the n
atural way of striking the bird would spin the bird against its grain. and,
backhand drops are the opposite. So, when the right han... 阅读全帖 |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 27 when he moved fast to his backhand corner to use his forehand, he was
surprised to see my return to his far forehand with my LP side, flat
ball return.
u know i was exploding his backhand weakness since 3rd game.
he moved fast to his forehand, but it was a little late, so he had
to Gao Diao, i immediately twiddled back my racket and stepped around,
killed his Gao Diao to his backhand to win that point. |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 28
disagree, it is a lot easier for penholder to add side spin when
he loops, Ma Lin/Wang Hao/Nyu Cheng min all have powerful forehand
than Boll/Long/Jike
i am talking about forehand, 'cause for men, it is eventually forehand
who can kill! |
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m**********0
发帖数: 698 | 29 I play him in svtt. His footwork is not good enough to cover his wide
forehand.
70% return to his wide forehand. I think you can block him down.
If you can have short serve to his forehand. He has trouble too.
Use differnt serves to confuse him.
His 砍式发球 mostly are no spin or top spin. When return 砍式发球, You need
to flip instead of chop even you may miss it. At leat, you can scare him to
use these serve again and agin. Chop is worst choice. |
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U*******1
发帖数: 1565 | 30 Someone told me previously when I had doubts on RPB due to mistakes of using
it, ' Since you played forehand for many years, you forehand reach the
current level. If you play RPB for that often like your forehand, then your
RPB should be very good. Losing is OK, but just use it.' |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 31 WLQ vs G Yan: fit, tall and powerful forehand, very manly style
backhand is a little weak.
WH vs LLX: consistent, spinny looping from both sides, a little weak
against lefties.
ZJK vs DN: new comer, newly crown world champions, fighting spirit.
new skills in backhand, but need more competition
experience.
ML vs LSW: textbook style of skills, balanced play, but need more
strength from both s... 阅读全帖 |
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J********9
发帖数: 36508 | 32 好坑。虽然我看不出来道道来。
不过ZJK/DN目前来看，势头最猛。
ML/LSW打球还得都动动脑子，遇到困难的时候，还得更冷静。
GY，唉，问题比较多；跟XX放一块不合适吧。XX还是很有希望
的，希望他反手继续加强。
WLQ vs G Yan: fit, tall and powerful forehand, very manly style
backhand is a little weak.
WH vs LLX: consistent, spinny looping from both sides, a little weak
against lefties.
ZJK vs DN: new comer, newly crown world champions, fighting spirit.
new skills in backhand, but need more competition
experience.... 阅读全帖 |
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U*******1
发帖数: 1565 | 33 As a penholder, we should unit together to find out some common weakness of
shakehanders.
In USA, penholders are minority in overall (not for a particular club where
there are too many Chinese). In the top players, penholders are fewer: Wang
Hao, Ma Lin, Xu Xin, etc.
Therefore, as minority, we should unit as a one to summarize some common
weakness of shakehanders to produce the following list.
Techniques to beat a shakehand : (someone help to add?)
1. Since a penholder's forehand maybe more powe... 阅读全帖 |
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U*******1
发帖数: 1565 | 34 This may be because of timing.
I believe that 直拍深握和浅握 will affect the speed of transition from
forehand loop to RPB. Based on my experience, 深握 is slower in terms of
transition from forehand loop to RPB and vice versa than 浅握. This may be
one reason that it is more likely to hit your figure when you conduct a
forehand and then change to RPB. |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 35
good article, but i do feel tennis forehand is more like 勾拳, whereas TT
forehand
isn't much like that, esp for penholders, we need to use wrists/fingers a
lot
more than in tennis.
The more lethal forehand loop would be those with side spins, watch out
Waldner's
loop, since the ball is light and small, it is a lot easier to use wrist and
fingers.
TT is fun to play than tennis in a way that spins are a lot more varied.
If you like to play 勾拳 as much as possible, i would guess tennis is a
better
c... 阅读全帖 |
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h*******a
发帖数: 1753 | 36 http://tabletennisequipment.dandoy-sports.com/en/product_info.p
The two sides are not too different in speed, definitely not as much as one
would wish.
"TIBHAR co-operated with Samsonov to develop the idea of forehand and
backhand with distinct speed feels. The specific plywood layer combinations
produce a blade with more speed on the forehand and more control on the
backhand – a real favour to the typical forehand attacker. This is used
with the special new Tibhar CONTACT SYSTEM which produces... 阅读全帖 |
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L****n
发帖数: 35 | 37 Sun Bin of Intel is playing inverted forehand (Hurricane 3 rubbers)
and long pips backhand (penhold style).
He has one of the most deceptive penhold serves(those resembled Liu Guo
Liang using
the backhand side of the rubber to serve on his forehand position or we call
it reversed-backhand forehand serves) and his long pips is so surprising in
terms of position chop block.
I think he used to play much better when he was in China and at least in
2250 or higher level.
LXXfan |
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b*******e
发帖数: 724 | 38
Agree with Mike on most of what he said, especially on Andre's backhand and
Hewitt's foot work. A few more:
I like Hass's one-handed backhand a lot, it is silky smooth. Guga's is good,
but very few people can play like his extreme wesstern grip.
Forehand is the most difficult one, there are so many big forehand hitters,
but I have to give my vote to Pete. His running-forehand is still the best
forever.
I want to vote Ferderer for the best overall player. His everthing can be
easily put in top 1 |
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p******f
发帖数: 341 | 39 en, good points. for extreme western grip forehand, here is my 2 cents.
I have changed to this grip last summer and want to share some
experience with you.
I want to say when hitting in the rally, western grip will give you great safety in
heavy topspin. However, to me, I am not tall, so I found out what I had a
big forehand putway is gone!
Even I hate it so much, my stroke is a little bit like Michael Chang's forehand!
It moons too much! Not like big guys in club, even they hit heavy topspi |
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s***m
发帖数: 28 | 40 Chip all returns deep to the backhand. Keep the ball AWAY from the middle of
the court. Avoid allowing him to hit his favorite shot, the inside-out
forehand. Slice your BH to either the crosscourt service box which forces him
to hit a BH (and thus avoiding his inside-out forehand, or down the line...his
forehand is less lethal from this court position than inside out. This also
opens up the court so you can force him to hit his weaker backhand ON THE RUN.
Attack the net on his BH using slice app |
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n*********4
发帖数: 83 | 41 Normally I use my forehand grip (which is eastern forehand, my stronger side
). If the opponent had a really strong serve, then I use continental to
block on the forehand and to chip or block on the backhand and body shots. |
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c******r
发帖数: 132 | 42 随便写写，算是response to KennyD的大作。
Forehand:
1. Ad. court Forehand inside-out
闪身正手cross court. 其实Down the line打得也很好。
2. Duce court Running Forehand cross court (球拍在头顶follow through)
小德和穆雷现在这一招也很纯熟了。看过一些老桑的比赛里也使过。
Backhand:
1. Ad. court Backhand passing shot
Roddick最清楚这一招，每次上网几乎都被穿。当然这一侧最强passing shot还是Nadal
，毕竟人家是正手。穆雷也迅速成长起来。
2. Ad. court Running Backhand down the line
经典例子是08温网第四盘抢七里救了一个championship point.
Head smash:
反手高压。
这个值得说说。没有人能使到哪怕接近于费费的球速和落点。但这基本是个冷门技术，
几场比赛也难得碰到一个。使得好的是天赋，使得不好也不必练。07年温网和0 |
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r******n
发帖数: 1665 | 43 Split step is not natural
Forehand 3.0 Forehand groundstroke is too tight. You may try to loose your
arm a little bit. That is why your follow through did not wrap around your
body.
Forehand volley 2.5: try to keep the arm close to the body and move FOREWARD
. Bend knees and keep racquet head above your wrist.
Backhand volley 2.5 : try to push the arm away from the body and square your
feet. Bend knees and keep racquet head above your wrist. |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 44 想学pro的某种running forehand, 就是朝正手侧飞奔中，用胳膊捞球，
最后随挥结束在脑袋上方那种。（类似Nadal的通常正手）
这种正手的好处是topspin强，更容易过网并不出界。
发现这种正手只有会window wiper forehand的人才会很自然使用。狒狒
这种traditional forehand的人就很少出现这种正手。 |
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a*****3
发帖数: 10373 | 45 You really don't know how to beat ff's backhand. Think about how consistent
they are no matter forehand or backhand as a pro.
You can't just simply put all the ball to ff's backhand and wait for his UE.
Look at the ones who beat fed:
1. Del Potro: overpower fed. no matter forehand or backhand.
2. davy: powerful and fast. ffhas no problem to handle the forehand shots
but when davy hits to ff's backhand, it is too fast, too flat and too
powerful. Especially when davy moves ff around and then attac |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 46 Suggestions for next step:
if you play agi, try to always use your forehand and hit to his backhand.
Do this until you can consistantly overpower him in groundstrokes, then
start trying to hit to his forehand and hit a few backhands.
If you are playing your partner, try to use backhand as much as possible.
Your forehand is probably too good for him but your backhand looks shaky.
Serve: there is no easy way. You probably know what's
the issues but you just can't improve it -- there is no time to |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 47 This TW grip measurement is for traditional forehand (eastern forehand).
If you play modern forehand (semi-western), grip size should be much smaller
. |
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 48 His backhand looks very good based on those videos. But forehand is a little
bit too much spin and less pace. Did you try to attack his forehand? Maybe
approach net on his forehand side?
longest match I ever had.
immediately. During the 3rd set, I led an early break advantage. He was so
patient and looked for the chance. And he did, broke me at 5-ish game.
Down by 0:30, tried to struggle back to deuce, and then even at another
match point. Bee never showed a jitter, still broke this one and won |
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b*****t
发帖数: 758 | 49 I played 90% forehands in my matches this season:-). Seriously, you should
play backhand with ball machine or wall. When your backhand is almost as
good as your forehand, you will be comfortable not to run to hit the
forehand. |
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a*****3
发帖数: 10373 | 50 感觉不太对. 一般这样跑去击球,都是reserve forehand,就是说follow through都是过头顶.如果不能reserve forehand,说明太紧急,时间太仓促了,那么整个人的身体应该往前倾得很厉害,大腿几乎要碰到胸部才对.而且球已经打出去了,你还没有收步的趋势,很有可能整个人冲出千里之外啦...
看你跑得这么轻松,应该有时间来个reserve forehand,follow through时就顺时转身,整个人面对球网,然后拍子过头,再来个两脚劈开滑步紧急刹住,必要时成一字码...
练好了再来奔一张! |
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