T****i
发帖数: 715 | 1 This one really made my day.
"when Qing Dynasty died because the USA won WW2 and made Japanese to leave
China, the Republic of China became government. The ROC is Chinese.
But People's Republic of China is Chinese Communist Party backstab ROC and
steal government in 1949.
the PRC with CCP decide to conquer Manchuria and Tibet and Mongol and so
greedy to occupy so many, such as now Vietnam.
If the Chinese Communist Party is not so greedy, there are many independent
countries and Asia become like ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 2 BEIJING — When Zhang Xiaomo worked on a farm in Manchuria in the early
1970s, she shuddered at the screeching noise of trucks pulling over on the
icy roads. Her mind would dart back to the summer of 1966, when gangs of men
would arrive most nights in large trucks, banging on the door and
ransacking the courtyard house she lived in by herself. It was the beginning
of the Cultural Revolution, and her mother, hunted for her contact with the
Japanese during World War II, had gone into hiding.
https:... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 3 so called "dongbei hanren" r actually rats who entered into Manchuria one
century ago. Now they come back to ruin their own Nikan mainland, its none
of our "Jurchen Culture" business |
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发帖数: 12149 | 4 老外开始对 Manchu People似懂非懂
如果你继续抛出
Manchuria这个地理学词汇，很多老外就有概念了 |
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h*******i
发帖数: 4386 | 5 历史的假设，44年7月，东线红军白俄罗斯战役击破了中央集团军群，西线米军落满地
登陆，如果元首把山下奉文大将的满洲第一方面军30万人用德国武器武装起来，编成
Waffen SS Freiwilligen-Army "Manchuria", 下面4个坦克师团，12个步兵师团，放
在西线，按日军后面在太平洋上的表现，米军估计会被堵在诺曼底，动弹不得。
为了发扬日本陆军的战斗精神，加强步兵支援火力非常重要。 满洲志愿军班一级配备6
支StG-44突击步枪，1挺MG-42通用机枪，4把G-43半自动步枪，不占编制的Panzerfaust
150, 每个突击步枪手带一发，步枪手每人帮机枪手携带一个250发弹盒。
步兵小队一级，直接掌握一个掷弹筒班，4门50mm掷弹筒。这个用来打掉敌方的机枪火
力非常有效。中队下属火力小队，配属81mm迫击炮2门，13.2mm高射机枪2挺，MG42机枪
6挺。
联队/大队一级的crew served 重武器，120mm重迫击炮，75mm/L42加农炮，和50mm
PAK38反坦克炮，再配一个4x20mm高炮battery, 就齐活了。
44年底，德国军工生产达到... 阅读全帖 |
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M******a
发帖数: 6723 | 6 【 以下文字转载自 Mod_CHN_Hist 讨论区 】
发信人: Mayingba (吳鐘學), 信区: Mod_CHN_Hist
标 题: 奉天兵工厂
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Jan 28 20:29:57 2018, 美东)
https://wwiiafterwwii.wordpress.com/2017/04/03/mukden-arsenal-after-wwii/
Mukden Arsenal after WWII
April 3, 2017 jwh19752 Comments
(Zhang's Gate, the old entrance to Mukden Arsenal)
For people interested in Japanese firearms of WWII, the name Mukden Arsenal
is familiar. The history of the facility after Japan's defeat is less well
known. Under various names, it did surv... 阅读全帖 |
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M******a
发帖数: 6723 | 7 来自主题: Mod_CHN_Hist版 - 奉天兵工厂 https://wwiiafterwwii.wordpress.com/2017/04/03/mukden-arsenal-after-wwii/
Mukden Arsenal after WWII
April 3, 2017 jwh19752 Comments
(Zhang's Gate, the old entrance to Mukden Arsenal)
For people interested in Japanese firearms of WWII, the name Mukden Arsenal
is familiar. The history of the facility after Japan's defeat is less well
known. Under various names, it did survive for some time, producing an odd
mix of WWII weapons after the war's end.
(Mukden Arsenal proofmark during WWII)
Mukden an... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 10 | 8 NISSAN的总部曾在长春
当时的基本环境是日本在三十年代开始经营“满洲国”。。。
见W.G. BEASLEY “JAPNESE IMPERIALISM 1894-1945”。P216。
“A new organization was created as a channel for it[supplementing heavy
industrial production in the Japanese homeland]: the Manchuria Industrial
Development Company (known as Mangyo), which was founded in December 1937,
taking over from Mantetsu the supervision of the special and semi-special
companies. These constituted the Manchukuo government’s contribution to its
initial capital. The rest was pro... 阅读全帖 |
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g******t
发帖数: 18158 | 9 David Glantz
David M. Glantz (born 11 January 1942 in Port Chester, New York) is an
American military historian and the editor of the Journal of Slavic Military
Studies.
Glantz received degrees in history from the Virginia Military Institute and
the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, and is a graduate of the U.
S. Army Command and General Staff College, Defense Language Institute,
Institute for Russian and Eastern European Studies, and U.S. Army War
College. He entered active service w... 阅读全帖 |
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H****g
发帖数: 14447 | 10 1. 证实了毛泽东1975年写给周恩来这首诗。
《江山靠谁守·诉衷情》
当年忠贞为国筹，
何曾怕断头？
如今天下红遍，
江山靠谁守？
业未竟，
身躯倦，
鬓已秋。
你我之辈，
忍将夙愿，
付与东流？
2. 证实了1976年之前根本没有所谓饿死三千万或者大饥荒之说。
3. 毛泽东1975年的担心，或者说1964年的担心，都变成了现实。
4. 毛泽东唯一的遗产就是留给人民的造反精神，终将成燎原之火。
Mao Tse-Tung: Father of Chinese Revolution
By Fox Butterfield
Special to The New York Times
HONG KONG, Sept. 9--Mao Tse-tung, who began as an obscure peasant, died one
of history's great revolutionary figures.
Born at a time when China was wracked by civil strife, beset with terrible
poverty and enc... 阅读全帖 |
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a****l
发帖数: 1696 | 11 里面的一段话尤其重要。说日本刚投降的几天内，政府发密令给所有外交官，要求他们
从此开始舆论工作，尽力把日本描绘成二战受害者，同时掩盖其战争罪行。这个密令，
被美国知道，但美国是多年后才公布的。公布的时候，冷战已经开始了，那是日本已经
成为欧美的盟友了。
国内很多分析日本的文章，水平都不高。你说日本民族很变态，什么证据？看看人家这
篇文章，用的都是数据，比如被日本抓获的战俘的死亡率比其他国家抓获的要高得多，
然后有具体数据，然后有分析原因。
欢饮翻译成中文然后转帖国内论坛。
http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/Japan-Wants-To-Rewrite
Japan Wants To Rewrite World War II
by James Dunnigan
August 22, 2010
August 15th is 65th the anniversary of the end of World War II, the day when
Japan finally surrendered. This year, the annivers... 阅读全帖 |
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l****p
发帖数: 27354 | 12 http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/05/30/the-bomb-didnt-beat-japan-s
The Bomb Didn’t Beat Japan… Stalin Did
BY WARD WILSON MAY 30, 2013
U.S. use of nuclear weapons against Japan during World War II has long been
a subject of emotional debate. Initially, few questioned President Truman’
s decision to drop two atomic bombs, on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. But, in 1965
, historian Gar Alperovitz argued that, although the bombs did force an
immediate end to the war, Japan’s leaders had wanted to sur... 阅读全帖 |
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k*****a
发帖数: 1518 | 13 【 以下文字转载自 History 讨论区,原文如下 】
发信人: Manchuria (Manchurian), 信区: History
标 题: 东北
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Tue Apr 16 06:44:41 2002), 站内信件
http://www.factmonster.com/ce6/world/A0831482.html
还是挺客观的
Manchuria , Mandarin Dongbei sansheng [three northeastern provinces], region,
c.600,000 sq mi (1,554,000 sq km), NE China. It is officially known as the
Northeast. Manchuria is separated from Russia largely by the Amur, Argun,
and Ussuri rivers, from North Korea by the Yalu and Tumen rivers, and from
Mongo |
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z**********e
发帖数: 22064 | 14 John T. Downey Dies at 84; Held Captive for 20 Years
By DOUGLAS MARTIN November 21, 2014
前美国传奇特工逝世，曾被中国囚禁20年
DOUGLAS MARTIN 2014年11月21日
John T. Downey, a former C.I.A. agent who became the longest-serving
American prisoner of war by surviving more than 20 years in Chinese prisons
after he was shot down over Manchuria in 1952, died on Monday at a hospice
in Branford, Conn. He was 84.
本周一，曾被中国囚禁逾20年的美国中央情报局(CIA)前探员约翰·T·唐尼(John T.
Downey)在康涅狄格州布兰福德的一家临终安养院逝世，享年84岁。1952年，他乘坐的
飞机在中国东北部被击落，使他就此成为服刑时间最... 阅读全帖 |
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w*x
发帖数: 3456 | 15 wiki上说
"Manchuria" is a translation of the Japanese word Manshū, which dates from
the 19th century. The name Manju was invented and given to the Jurchen
people by Nurhaci, however, the name "Manchuria" was never used by the
Manchus or the Qing dynasty itself to refer to their homeland. According to
the Japanese scholar Junko Miyawaki-Okada, the Japanese geographer Takahashi
Kageyasu was the first to use the term 满洲 (Manshū) as a place-name in
1809 in the Nippon Henkai Ryakuzu, and it was from th... 阅读全帖 |
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w*x
发帖数: 3456 | 16 wiki上说
"Manchuria" is a translation of the Japanese word Manshū, which dates from
the 19th century. The name Manju was invented and given to the Jurchen
people by Nurhaci, however, the name "Manchuria" was never used by the
Manchus or the Qing dynasty itself to refer to their homeland. According to
the Japanese scholar Junko Miyawaki-Okada, the Japanese geographer Takahashi
Kageyasu was the first to use the term 满洲 (Manshū) as a place-name in
1809 in the Nippon Henkai Ryakuzu, and it was from th... 阅读全帖 |
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K**********i
发帖数: 22099 | 17 " "Manchuria" is widely used outside of China to denote the geographical and
historical region. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchuria
原来outside China都是“日本”和“日本傀儡”。佩服。
可怜我大美国，就这样成了日本傀儡。 |
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K**********i
发帖数: 22099 | 18 " "Manchuria" is widely used outside of China to denote the geographical and
historical region. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchuria
原来outside China都是“日本”和“日本傀儡”。佩服。
可怜我大美国，就这样成了日本傀儡。 |
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a******e
发帖数: 1036 | 19 1900年英、法、德、美、日、俄、意、奧聯軍自大沽登陸；7月9日，滿軍将领聶士成於
天津城南戰死。14日，聯軍佔領天津；開始時總人數約3萬人，後來增至約5萬人，此後
聯軍陸續增兵至十萬，由京津出兵，分攻山海關等地。同时，俄國從南北兩路派二十餘
萬人進佔滿洲本部。8月4日，北路俄軍攻陷璦琿，直逼齐齐哈尔。8月28日，抵近齐齐
哈尔城，并炮击城内。黑龙江将军 袁寿山（汉軍正白旗）坚守“军覆则死”的诺言，
自卧棺中，命卫士枪击，壮烈殉国。至9月佔領吉林烏拉駐地吉林；南路8月佔據營口，
10月佔領盛京，10月6日兩軍會師，佔據了南滿全境。
人物简介：寿山（1860年－1900年），字眉峰，黑龙江瑷珲人，汉军正白旗。为吉林将
军富明阿之子、明末将领袁崇焕八世孙。清末任黑龙江将军。黑龍江將軍，全稱鎮守黑
龍江等處地方將軍，清代黑龍江地區最高官員，康熙二十二年（1683年）設立，官階為
正一品，乾隆三十二年（1767年）改為從一品比直隶总督高半级。
聂士成（1836年－1900年），字功亭，谥忠节, 满清国人，满军名將，“力勇巴圖魯”
，直隸提督。直隸提督，统领直隶军务的最高军事长官，为从一品。
T... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 20 Apr 25 1644
End of Ming Dynasty
The collapse of the Ming Dynasty was a protracted affair, its roots
beginning as early as 1600 with the emergence of the Manchu under Nurhaci.
Originally a vassal of the Ming emperors, Nurhaci in 1582 embarked on an
inter-tribal feud that escalated into a campaign to unify the Jianzhou
Jurchen tribes. Later Nurhaci announced Seven Grievances and openly
renounced the sovereignty of Ming overlordship in order to complete the
unification of those Jurchen tribes still... 阅读全帖 |
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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 21 (1) KOMATSU Maomoto, Japanese oil hunting in Manchuria. Journal of the
Japanese Association for Petroleum Technology; Vol 70, pages 250-258 (2005).
http://sciencelinks.jp/j-east/article/200514/000020051405A05268
("the reservoir quality was not good enough to establish commercial
production. It is noteworthy to point out that the geologists engaged in
Fuxin oil exploration thought that the oil came from Jurassic shales
deposited in fresh water lake")
(2) Oil shale in China
http://en.wikipedia.o... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 9007 | 22 http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/ww2/cairoconf1.html
"It is their purpose that Japan shall be stripped of all the islands in the
Pacific which she has seized or occupied since the beginning of the first
World War in 1914, and that all the territories Japan has stolen from the
Chinese, such as Manchuria, Formosa, and the Pescadores, shall be restored
to the Republic of China. "
Cairo Conference - A Statement Regarding War Against Japan
(November 1943)
Released December 1, 1943
The seve... 阅读全帖 |
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s**********e
发帖数: 2888 | 23 今天学校发通知Update税务信息，进去之后发现国籍这一栏，中国的名字竟然是China,
People's Republic of (Inner Mongolia, Tibet, Manchuria)。来美国这么多多年第
一次看到中国的名字是这样的，内蒙古，西藏，满洲里。
给学校写了信，说这是wrong and offensive。
同时好奇China, People's Republic of (Inner Mongolia, Tibet, Manchuria)，这个
名字是怎么来的？到底是不是我理解的wrong and offensive?
我看了看系统里面别的国家，很少有这样的，比如有限的几个，就是UK，后面打个括号
，写着英格兰，苏格兰，等等。 |
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t******r
发帖数: 8600 | 24 大英百科全书
Gradually, he isolated the Nationalists in the cities and eventually forced
garrison after garrison to surrender. By the end of 1948, his army, which
had originally numbered 100,000, had grown to 800,000, and he had captured
all of Manchuria.
Lin’s victory in Manchuria ensured the rapid collapse of Chiang Kai-shek’s
Nationalists in the rest of China. His own forces, moving south, captured
Beijing in January 1949, Wuhan in May, and Guangzhou in October.
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/... 阅读全帖 |
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w*********g
发帖数: 30882 | 25 这是伟大的休战时间。所有国家都庄严承诺自己不与任何其他国家打仗。俄罗斯，德国
，奥地利，意大利，希腊和土耳其的军队开始逐步动员，第一波行动开始。力量集结后
开始向东移动。所有铁路上都充斥着到亚洲的部队的列车。中国是这一切行动的最终目
标。过了一段时间后，庞大的海上行动。来自各个国家的远洋军舰远征而出，舰队随后
，一直到中国沿海。国家清空了他们的海军码头。他们派出了预算官，工兵，和灯塔守
护者，他们派出了过去陈旧的巡洋舰和战舰。同时他们开始招募商船加入。统计表明，
共有58640艏商船，配备探照灯和速射火炮，由各国开往中国。
中国在微笑地等待着。在她的土地边，沿着她的国界，驻扎了以百万计的欧洲战士。她
动员了五倍于此的民兵等待入侵。这次看来与上次一样。但中国突然感到困惑。因为这
支庞大的队伍并没有开始入侵。她无法理解这一现象。广大的西伯利亚边境一切都归于
平静。她的海岸城镇和村庄甚至没有遭到炮轰。在世界历史上，从来没有过如此强大的
战争舰队的聚集。世界上所有的船队，百万吨的战舰聚集在她的海岸线上，却什么都没
有发生。没有任何尝试。他们想使她离开她的地盘吗？中国笑了。他们以为能够厌倦死
她... 阅读全帖 |
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h*******i
发帖数: 4386 | 26 真是可惜了，新京是那么的漂亮，一到夏天，整个城市掩盖在绿茵中．
满洲如果再有２０年的发展，到１９６５年绝壁是和德国一样发达的国家．
Manchuria Manchuria uber alles, uber alles in der Welt ! |
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h******i
发帖数: 21077 | 27 Or I said some place near Outer Manchuria
They all know the Movie "Manchurian Candidate", so anyone knows Manchuria. |
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a*******g
发帖数: 3500 | 29 Army of Manchuria
Fourth front of Manchuria |
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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 30 (A) "There is limited escape from the absence of datain study of the records
of three areas that approach historical experiments--the Japanese in Japan,
and the Chinese in Manchuria, and in Taiwan."
Irene B. Taeuber, Manpower Utilizationand Demographic Transition: Japan,
Manchuria and Taiwan. Asian Survey, 1: 10-25 (1961; University of California
Press).
http://www.jstor.org/sici?sici=0004-4687(196105)1%3A3%3C19%3AMUADTJ%3E2.0.CO%3B2-B
(B)
(1) Chinese in Northeastern China were reported to have |
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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 31 【 以下文字转载自 TheStrait 讨论区 】
发信人: choi (choi), 信区: TheStrait
标 题: Re: 为什么东北人普遍没有台湾人那样的亲日情结
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Dec 7 14:42:37 2008)
(A) "There is limited escape from the absence of datain study of the records
of three areas that approach historical experiments--the Japanese in Japan,
and the Chinese in Manchuria, and in Taiwan."
Irene B. Taeuber, Manpower Utilizationand Demographic Transition: Japan,
Manchuria and Taiwan. Asian Survey, 1: 10-25 (1961; University of California
Press).
http://www.j |
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g******e
发帖数: 403 | 32 I do not think those girls on the video are decent girls. However, what
makes you believe mogolian, manchuria, korean, japs know that Han people are
cheap people. What makes you believe you can represent mogolian, manchuria,
korean, japs? If you can represent these people, I can only say that's what
you are made of. And you are no better than those girls. Again, you need to
read more history books. Your words are jokes. I got it.
know |
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m*******3
发帖数: 1275 | 33 解放前没有东北人的说法。 满洲 大大的贬？ 或许有些人认为自己属于关东人 不属
于满洲人。 满洲是个地名中性词汇。但老人经常用 南满 北满 东满 来代指地域。老
辈人谁不知道蒙东属于所谓的东北地区。本版为什么没有蒙东。
另外，在张学良抗日演讲里 出现过 东三省 和全满洲。而没有东北。 这是为什么呢
东北和东北人是关里人给起的名字。 本身跟北平 一样带有侮辱性质。是缺少文化内涵
的称谓。这也是为什么很多 三省人不喜欢到东北版的原因。他们对东北这个称谓并不
认同。
单看本版英文名 northeast 这根本不是 东北地区的 英文名。这片土地就 manchuria
否则东北虎叫什么？northeast tiger? 那叫 Manchuria tiger.
当然现在也许满洲不适合做称谓了。 但这是历史文化的一部分。有人觉得日据时期成
立的满洲国不光彩，但当时的历史是怎样的？真如历史书上所讲水深火热么？我们当然
不愿做殖民地。但客观的评价历史是对先辈和生养自己的家乡负责。
最后， 我想说 东北这个词 没有足够的认同度。 这也是为什么本版人气甚至不如 某
些小省直辖市的原因。 |
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k***g
发帖数: 7244 | 34 【 以下文字转载自 History 讨论区 】
【 原文由 kzeng 所发表 】
http://www.kzeng.info/drupal/node/570
今天汉城市市长李明博在汉城市政府举行记者招待会，宣布把汉城市的中文名称改为“首
尔”，呵呵，觉得这不是一件什么特别大的事情，别国提供一个自己城市的外语译名，在
外交史上也屡见不鲜，譬如中国规定"东北"的翻译不再作为 Manchuria; 翻译中国地名时
应使用汉语拼音, 把旧时习惯上的称呼Peking，Nanking改为Beijing，Nanjing等。以国
外为例，缅甸将原来的英译名Burma改为Myanmar，因为Myanmar更接近缅人的自称Myan
Mar的发音；柬埔寨把Cambodia改为Kampuchea等等。所以更改自己国名或是地名的翻译也
不是什么新鲜事情，影响到汉语翻译的以前也有，譬如“象牙海岸”把它的拉丁语翻译一
律改为Cote d'Ivoire，于是英文译名也从Ivory Coast改为了Cote d'Ivoire，汉语也跟
着从“象牙海岸”改为“科特迪瓦”。
可是就这么一件不大不小的事儿，不知道为什么激起 |
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a******n
发帖数: 280 | 35 这位朋友，纽时上那一位作者确实是信誉不良，据实指出这一点，不叫什么大字报。
纽时也有不少信誉良好的作者，发表过对神韵，对法轮功很正面的评论。这儿转载一则
几年前的报
导。
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/22/opinion/22iht-edli_ed3_.html
China vs. Falun Gong : After four years of repression, it's time to let
go
By John Li
Published: July 22, 2003
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BETHLEHEM, Pennsylvania— Four years ago, on the night of July 20, 1999,
a campaign was started across China to round up citizens practicing
Falun Gong, a spiritual movement just rising in the West. From the rust
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m***y
发帖数: 14763 | 36 You really made my day. In that case, China would've lost the whole
Everwhite, actually, you'd call it "White Head Mountain", like Korean prefer.
It's actually a good bargain to give half to Northern Koreans which keep the
Southerns at bay, because the Southern would claim for the whole, and much
more. Koreans are tough, and they wouldn't stop for a break till at least
getting back the whole Manchuria (Yes, this would be the name of current
Northeastern China if we hadn't taken any action).
And ... 阅读全帖 |
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a*****c
发帖数: 3525 | 37 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: agostic (π-packing), 信区: Military
标 题: (中英文)原子弹下无冤魂：B29飞行员查尔斯•斯韦尼将军1995国会演讲
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Aug 15 20:13:42 2012, 美东)
只有记忆才能带来真正的原谅，而遗忘就可能冒重复历史的危险。
One can only forgive by remembering. And to forget, is to risk repeating
history.
学英文是为了更好地了解历史。文章很长，有兴趣学英语同时了解历史的同学，希望耐
心地看完（也可以拷贝下来仔细研读）。不仅仅是学英语，更重要的是学如何写作，如
何摆事实，讲道理，反驳质疑。可以学的东西(中英文)原子弹下无冤魂：B29飞行员查
尔斯•斯韦尼将军1995国会演讲很多，就看你是否能够用心去领悟。这是一篇难
得的informative/historical/linguastic article. Enjoy and welcome to ... 阅读全帖 |
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L*********r
发帖数: 10 | 38 NISSAN的总部曾在长春
当时的基本环境是日本在三十年代开始经营“满洲国”。。。
见W.G. BEASLEY “JAPNESE IMPERIALISM 1894-1945”。P216。
“A new organization was created as a channel for it[supplementing heavy
industrial production in the Japanese homeland]: the Manchuria Industrial
Development Company (known as Mangyo), which was founded in December 1937,
taking over from Mantetsu the supervision of the special and semi-special
companies. These constituted the Manchukuo government’s contribution to its
initial capital. The rest was pro |
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k***g
发帖数: 7244 | 39 http://www.kzeng.info/drupal/node/570
今天汉城市市长李明博在汉城市政府举行记者招待会，宣布把汉城市的中文名称改为“首
尔”，呵呵，觉得这不是一件什么特别大的事情，别国提供一个自己城市的外语译名，在
外交史上也屡见不鲜，譬如中国规定"东北"的翻译不再作为 Manchuria; 翻译中国地名时
应使用汉语拼音, 把旧时习惯上的称呼Peking，Nanking改为Beijing，Nanjing等。以国
外为例，缅甸将原来的英译名Burma改为Myanmar，因为Myanmar更接近缅人的自称Myan
Mar的发音；柬埔寨把Cambodia改为Kampuchea等等。所以更改自己国名或是地名的翻译也
不是什么新鲜事情，影响到汉语翻译的以前也有，譬如“象牙海岸”把它的拉丁语翻译一
律改为Cote d'Ivoire，于是英文译名也从Ivory Coast改为了Cote d'Ivoire，汉语也跟
着从“象牙海岸”改为“科特迪瓦”。
可是就这么一件不大不小的事儿，不知道为什么激起那么多网友的不满，口诛笔伐的，从
早上到现在。呵呵，人家韩国改一个本国地名汉语的翻译 |
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k*****r
发帖数: 21039 | 40 had they found the oil in manchuria, world history would not be the same.
before the pre-emptive strike on pearl, japanese navy had only 6 month worth
of oil reserve.
the choice is to surrender without honor, or to fight. |
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k*****r
发帖数: 21039 | 41 if not for the pacific war, manchuria and korea are still japanese colonies.
常公凯申 was irrelevant. he was just a sadam like puppet for US/UK. |
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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 42 First and foremost, the President had no plan to bomb China, with
conventional or atomic bomb. (General MacArthur was another story. He might
bomb Manchuria with conventional bombs, but I have not read about an atomic
bomb.)
As for air power, please read
(a) Korean War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_war
(Section 3.2 Aerial warfare)
and
(b) MIG Alley
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mig_alley
飞北京？ |
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r*****y
发帖数: 53800 | 43 李登辉的哥哥不就进了靖国神社？
棒子死亡的一些说法供参考。大部分是劳工，参加日军死亡的最多只有1万多人。
The same source reports '6,369 Koreans too have died in the Japanese
military forces, and the number rises to 14,527 when civilians attached to
the military forces is added'"
^ Korea
Sources for total Korean civilian war dead range from 378,000 to 533,000 as
detailed below.
The American researcher R. J. Rummel's estimates 378,000 Korean dead due to
forced labor in Japan and Manchuria. According to Rummel "Information on
Korean deaths under Jap |
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S*******C
发帖数: 7325 | 44 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
Teller (yy) 于 (Sun Mar 21 03:40:12 2010, 美东) 提到:
前边讨论日本二战功亏一篑的时候，我又考虑了一下。
日本如果要成功，需要有适当的起止，没有适当的起，则所有的战略都是镜花水月
，没有适当的止，则都是沙上建塔，难以稳固。
而二战之前，或者说918的时候，从世界局势上来讲，是日本真正侵略东北的好时机
，注意我说的是东北而不是中国。交通技术的发展让日本有登陆大陆的技术上的可
能性，而现代化的国家概念还没有正式形成，也给日本登陆形成了政治可能性。
总之，日本侵入东北的事实证明在起点上是成功了。
如何维系这个成功就在于一个合适的止步点。
前边讨论的也指出了，日本政界内部有人看到了这个止步点，就是占领东北，裹足
不前，自我消化。
问题是，这之前，没有人认为占领东北会如此容易，也就没怎么去多想占领东北后
的止步问题。
打个比方说，这就像是铺建了一条高速的铁路，然后大家建了一个始发站，在中途
车站和终点站还没有确定在哪里开建的时候，发了一辆列车出去，此时如何停下来
就... 阅读全帖 |
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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 45 (1) To paragraph Mr. James Soong 宋楚瑜, you are CCP's 化妝師.
Rather, your argument misfires, and turns out to be an indictment against
CCP.
The Great Leap Forward flopped totally, causing 20 million Chinese to die of
famine in the absence of natural calamity.
In contrast, in the past decade China has emerged as the largest steel
producer of the world, accounting for about half of global output without
Mao's brutality. (Of course, quantity is not the same as quality. China
still cannnot make key engi... 阅读全帖 |
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t**********t
发帖数: 12071 | 47 再来一段内容简介，裕仁天皇的屎恐怕是将军舔不干净了。呵呵。
这是本打脸的好书啊。呵呵。
Bix documents in detail the strong, decisive role Hirohito played in wartime
operations, from the takeover of Manchuria in 1931 through the attack on
Pearl Harbor and ultimately the fateful decision in 1945 to accede to an
unconditional surrender.
http://kobobooks.com/ebook/Hirohito-And-The-Making-Of/book-5ABd |
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g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 48 要是找主张裕仁天皇无战争罪的资料，哪只可能更多。
不然,这本书的所谓“爆炸性”的根基何在？
再来一段内容简介，裕仁天皇的屎恐怕是将军舔不干净了。呵呵。
这是本打脸的好书啊。呵呵。
Bix documents in detail the strong, decisive role Hirohito played in wartime
operations, from the takeover of Manchuria in 1931 through the attack on
Pearl Harbor and ultimately the fateful decision in 1945 to accede to an
unconditional surrender.
http://kobobooks.com/ebook/Hirohito-And-The-Making-Of/book-5ABd |
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a**i
发帖数: 5846 | 49 AGREEMENT REGARDING JAPAN
The leaders of the three great powers - the Soviet Union, the United States
of America and Great Britain - have agreed that in two or three months after
Germany has surrendered and the war in Europe is terminated, the Soviet
Union shall enter into war against Japan on the side of the Allies on
condition that:
1. The status quo in Outer Mongolia (the Mongolian People's Republic) shall
be preserved.
2. The former rights of Russia violated by the treacherous attack of Japa... 阅读全帖 |
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b****r
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dragontiger (*WS北美潜伏哥*) 于 (Mon Aug 1 12:49:53 2011, 美东) 提到:
当年东北战场，国民党为什么不打过松花江？为什么孙立人不直接指挥新一军？
难道老蒋没看出来丢了东北就要亡国？钢开始不是打的林彪跑了吗？
如果让孙立人直接指挥王牌新一军，发动群众，搞蚕食，搞掉gcd占领的哈尔滨，哪里
会有四下江南？情况会是另一样的。
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mz2015 (2015) 于 (Mon Aug 1 12:56:45 2011, 美东) 提到:
被那个天真的马歇尔逼着停战的。
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pingberlin (ping) 于 (Mon Aug 1 13:05:51 2011, 美东) 提到:
让现代白起发动群众？广州老百姓情绪很稳定
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