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b*********s
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来自主题: Tennis版 - YTCW的要诀!
你们讲的这两点都很重要。我可能说的太general了,我认为你们说的这两点都该是自
己对照时的两个mile stone, 我所说的放松包括了这两项。 放松了拍头自然会drop,
手抓得紧紧的刻意把拍头drop达不到你想要的效果, wrist snap也一样, 我从来不想
这个,但只要放松,一旦拍头起动,wrist snap 也是自然的。
我觉得网上很多教材太注重effect的,容易把wsn误导。但如果只说cause, 可能会让人
觉得过于简单,wsn可能觉得这种简单的道理不是真正自己做不到的原因。道理简单,
但真正能做到难。这些effect也该知道,但只是拿来做检测。
b*e
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来自主题: Tennis版 - YTCW的要诀!
不同的网站教法不一样,黄毛球崇尚pronation,但是十分刻意的pronation反而减缓拍
头速度。有些教练崇尚writ snap,但是容易让人误解成主要靠wrist。其实击球一瞬间
的动作既包含pronation也包含wrist snap。只要smooth就可以。但是千万不要arming
the ball,这是elbow和shoulder受伤的主要原因。
b*e
发帖数: 3845
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alternating with ice and heat for every 10-15 minutes.
icing is most important.
then use cold/heat cream to rub it.
raise your hand/arm to increase to blood flow.
when coming back from injury, use a 1,2 pound dumbbell to do some wrist
exercise. If it still hurts when doing dumbbell exercise, stop doing the
exercise, and definite don't play tennis.
if getting back to play, use sports tape or wrist band.
U******u
发帖数: 5829
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 一个挑战的周末即将来临
key:
1. chose best fit grip size of racquets;
2. use high quality grip, avoid using those cheap one which are thin, easily
worn and becoming rough, and not good absorbing sweat!
3 as "手掌根部的损伤", did u grab racquet too high and let end part beyond
your wrist and thus it can touch your wrist??? if so, you should hold
racquet to most end part!
this sounds a tough tournament and very challenge. I wish I could join such
a game.
this weakend, we have a similar one in Long Island held by Chinese Am Tenn... 阅读全帖
d******t
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 奔:用continental grip发球
Haven't played badminton for many years, and did not
have any video recording at that time,
So I don't know for sure how I prepare my racket,
I was shocked to see LinDan's slow motion smash,
no wrist snap at all, only pronation,
while I was considered good smasher in badminton,
only wrist snap no pronation at all with a eastern grip
w*****g
发帖数: 615
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 也奔个小朋友的,请指点
Impressive! Wish my son can be anywhere near that.
IMO.
FH, he can use more shoulder turn (faster torso rotation) and less wrist "
turn/flip/snap/jerk", not sure the right wold. He is definitely more toward
to modern FH style where the elbow is not tugged close to the body. This
will generate more speed. Just be careful to watch out for injuries. Kids at
this age are trying hard to impress. Don't over use wrist.
b*********s
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 请教击球时手腕问题
Maybe it's a bit tighter but I don't feel it. I would say just firm enough
so you won't break your wrist (fall back). Personally I would not consider
locking wrist or tight.
b*********s
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 卖拍子: Wilson BLX 6.1
yea, it is easier to flick the wrist with thinner grip. However, if you have
a tendency of mis-hit, bigger grip provide a bit more stability since you
can grip it better...

wrist?
b*********s
发帖数: 6757
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 我的网球弯路二: volley
“接触球的刹那,wrist是肯定要锁住的。”
说实在的,我也不是很清楚到底锁住了没, 反正contact clean时从头到尾,感觉都很
放松, 向baseline stroke那样。。。 wrist 没有break那是肯定的。 我的volley其
实还是不好, 2个月前刚找到这感觉,还不熟练,常还是会tight....
d****t
发帖数: 1284
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 打球伤了手腕,还有救吗?
你手腕哪里疼? 手背侧?
松紧带那种writst support打球时没用. 有钱的话可以试试这个:
http://www.amazon.com/WristWidget-Wrist-Support/dp/B001BVNSRO/r
我花10块钱在walmart买了条尼龙表带当wrist stabilizer,打球时带,效果也挺好.
b*e
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Also, you want to develop the feel of your backhand shot without using the
ball machine. Just do self feed. Do not hit too hard in the beginning. But
you need to make sure there is
1. Knee bend (right before rotation)
2. Racquet head drop below wrist, below ball
3. Solid contact
4. Low to high swing (make sure there is some topspin)
5. At the end of follow through, optionally you can let the wrist go
b*********s
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快速挥拍, how? Wrist Lag and Snap, how? stay relaxed, how? proper set
preparation, how? early take back and proper footwork, how? get your ass of
the sofa and get on the court.... lol
快速挥拍 is just an outcome of Wrist Lag and Snap, same as fast pace heavy
ball is just an outcome of 快速挥拍....
b*********s
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快速挥拍, how? Wrist Lag and Snap, how? stay relaxed, how? proper set
preparation, how? early take back and proper footwork, how? get your ass of
the sofa and get on the court.... lol
快速挥拍 is just an outcome of Wrist Lag and Snap, same as fast pace heavy
ball is just an outcome of 快速挥拍....
c**********8
发帖数: 35
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 3.5 大战 3.0
LZ的正手用了太多wrist snap,尤其是跑动中的和接发大角度. wrist snap后arm
pronate和follow through要足要到位. 楼上黑道也指出你正手的问题,这习惯不改,手
腕打多了容易受伤.
h******n
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 3.5 大战 3.0
多谢火眼高手指出。wrist snap 是个什么动作? 我研究下。对于一般的正手我尽量
要求手腕完全passive,不知道是不是这个造成了wrist snap?
h****5
发帖数: 174
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 怎样练 arm extensor muscles
网球Fitness练这块的还真不多,我只知道Wrist Flexion 和 Wrist Extension, 用哑
铃辅助。你可以在Youtube上搜一下。
x*d
发帖数: 1696
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我也是自己琢磨的,因为正在教我的小孩发球。你让专业的教练看看可能会更有帮助。
发球动作因人而异,职业球员间也有很大区别,都是为了把动力链连起来,最后那一下
的爆发。
你说的对,但是好像不是最直接的原因。他的动作一直到挠背作的都很好,从腿到头,
包括左手都很好,很职业,但是最终那一下感觉没有爆发起来。你说“打出去的球声音
不脆,听着就没力”,大概是削的太多感觉。可能就是最后那一下的wrist snap的
timing问题。前面的所有load的力量,大多是在那里最终执行。因为他结束动作表明他
的确是作了wrist snap,所以我觉得是timing而不是动作本身问题。
黑导怎么不露面了?快出来回答问题
x*d
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来自主题: Tennis版 - follow through question
your son's grip and hitting is a bit unique. Normally eastern or semi-
western grip naturally goes up the left shoulder at this age because they
hit low to high and the swing path is mostly due to the arm movement, not
wrist. Most kids I see are like that.
With stronger and stronger body and wrist, eventually the swing will evolve
to the modern way of finishing for semiwestern, i.e. ending at the left.
He started from extreme-western, that way it's awkward to finish up the
shoulder.
I think the ... 阅读全帖
M******0
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My experience from pingpong, it should be loose. I playing pingpong when I
was little,横拍, as I blush top spin (拉弧旋) no way you can do it if
holding the grip tight. You need the little movement of the bat in the hand
to create extra rotation (in addition to the wrist rotation) before contact
and the little movement to let go after contact. Only at the contact, the
bat is tightly hold for that fraction of a moment. I feel tennis top spin is
similar, if you holding the racket really tight, it is ha... 阅读全帖
m*e
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 奔一个正手打发球机视频
这几天我也在调正手,顺便问个问题,在击球前lock the wrist和keep wrist relaxed
两种说法是怎么回事.
b*********s
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how? We need to revisit the ATP FH again.
ATP FH take back
-elbow away from body --> check
-racquet face does not pass the body plane --> check
before the slot
-drop straight into the hitting slot --> check
in the slot
-racquet face parallel to the ground (this could depend on the shot)-->
check (i think this is your wrist layback? was never 100% clear on your
wrist layback part)
contact and finish
-flick/brush through on the contact --> check
-racquet face closed as the windshield wiper is alre... 阅读全帖
b*********s
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"Whether racquet head passing plane or not should not be a main factor."
You are right, I did the point out the key point is at the contact. At the
contact it's about the flick/brush through the ball with fast racquet head
speed. However, try to set the racquet pass your body plane and swing
directly toward the ball, and flick it, it is very very difficult. Thus I
use it as a key point to check for ATP/WTA FH.
I agree one of the racquet head speed at the contact is a key point. But I
disagree wi... 阅读全帖
b*e
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In that case, I'm also using ATP forehand.
It's because xbd thinks a better way is racquet tip pointing forward (
backswing like murray does), delaying wrist layback until the last moment (
delaying getting into the slot). Then somebody pointed out it's the main
difference between WTA and ATP forehand. I think for WSN, getting into the
slot early (layback wrist early) is a shortcut to learn an above-average
forehand
.

's
s
movement
n*********e
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 大菠萝又出山了。
Juan Martin del Potro is on the comeback trail.
The former World No. 4, who played just two tournaments last year (Sydney
and Miami) before undergoing left wrist surgery on June 18, will return to
action at the Delray Beach Open on 15 February.
Del Potro has experienced comeback success in Delray Beach before. Coming
off right wrist surgery in May 2010, the Tandil native came into the event
No. 166 in the Emirates ATP Rankings and won the 2011 title without dropping
a set (d. Tipsarevic).
"We've... 阅读全帖
n*********e
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 大菠萝又出山了。
Juan Martin del Potro is on the comeback trail.
The former World No. 4, who played just two tournaments last year (Sydney
and Miami) before undergoing left wrist surgery on June 18, will return to
action at the Delray Beach Open on 15 February.
Del Potro has experienced comeback success in Delray Beach before. Coming
off right wrist surgery in May 2010, the Tandil native came into the event
No. 166 in the Emirates ATP Rankings and won the 2011 title without dropping
a set (d. Tipsarevic).
"We've... 阅读全帖
b*e
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 第一次奔发球机练习,请轻拍
最近思考了一下,WTA FH为什么引拍那么大?因为发力机制不一样,WTA Forehand更多
swing forward, hit through, 很少 wrist 或windshield wiper, 所以需要大引拍,
行程长,把拍速升上去。 用windshield wiper 正手的球友也许有体会,从slot 往前
挥的速度很慢很放松,等到contact point 前一瞬间,那时wrist还是lay back,
racquet head drop, 这时才突然爆发开始 wiper motion, 所以这种正手不需要很大的
backswing。

4.
b*e
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我觉得所谓的pronation是手臂放松wrist snap的结果,但如果老想着pronation反而手
臂容易僵硬。可以试着用球拍向地上wrist snap拍球找timing的感觉,真正发球的时候
也就是朝着头顶上盯着球拍过去。另外,loose grip pressure, loose arm也很关键。
W*****7
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有点道理。wrist snap不会伤手腕吗?

我觉得所谓的pronation是手臂放松wrist snap的结果,但如果老想着pronation反
而手
b*********s
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又回到 pronation 定义的话题上了。。。
先说你的问题吧, 发球这玩意只能靠多练, 控制方面主要是抛球和引拍, 真正
initiate upward swing后, 基本就是靠种感觉了,因为你必须得保持放松, 越想控制
越容易僵,越发不好球。 抛球后协调不好,对初学者都很正常, 你抛球是否每次都能
抛到一个点,一个高度, 引拍和抛球是否每次都能协调的对上?
回到pronation的话题上。 我认为pronation有两种, 发球需要racquet on edge, 到
最后一刹那,"wrist snap" 是一种 pronation, 这是正常发球必要的(righty
serving a lefty serve maybe different). 第二种是一般youtube上或网上常说的
pronation, 就是在这"wrist snap" 自然 pronation后, 继续pronate 下去, 拍子继
续向外,手肘向内转,到高于手。 第二种的确可以让你的发球更平更快,但很容易受
伤(golf elbow). 所以我对业余学发球的人都是极其反对的。 其实pro 比赛中这种发... 阅读全帖
w*****t
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来自主题: Tennis版 - my serve video
Looks like I locked my wrist too much at the trophy position, but that's a
question, should i lock the wrist before hitting the ball?

the
D*******e
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 不得不感慨豆子不是常人
From Tennis World Magazine
太恐怖了,每年都伤病啊。。。前两天在哪儿讨论最tough的athlete,我当时脑子里出
现的是Favre,现在想来,估计是豆子吧。。。
相比之下,我其他饭过的球星们都幸运太多太多了。。。邓肯好像只有过一次major
setback...
其实这样看来,豆子的职业生涯能坚持16年已经很amazing了。。。
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All the injuries Rafael Nadal has had during his career
Gatto Luigi - 22-10-2016 - View: 10016
Tennis - His career saw him suffer injuries almost every year, 2015 expected
where he had what described a "mental injury", the fact of being unable to
control emotions in... 阅读全帖
b*e
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 双反的“锤炼”
这个么,我打任何角度都有明显的wrist lay back. Cross court 只是击球点位置不同
而已。打球的方向不应该靠wrist lay back多少控制
b*********s
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视频里的也算是上旋的一种,但与我和bee说的还是有些不同。视频里拍面在slot时 比
较偏side fence, 所以他打的球猛也会有些上旋。 因为要pace 所以需要lock wrist,
他的ww是wiper 带些rolls. 我和小蜜蜂说的那种正手更重,但pace不入视频里的;ww
是flick/snap 完成的。
两种都可行,我个人看法视频的那种更适合身材高大健壮,我和小蜜蜂的这种比较适合
grinder 体力好的。 我的经验是第一种只要我能跑到位就不难接,即使slice chip
chop都不会太难。我们的这种,慢些但更难timing, 差一点就会让人接得难受,特别是
反手。 你可以看为第一种靠pace 打出你的strike zone 左边或右边,上旋只是给球一
定的margin. 第二种完全是用上旋做为weapon, 让球跳出你的strike zone 的上方。第
二种更加是let the racquet do the work.
我是第二种所以评论有可能带些个人的偏见。


: 嗯谢谢,讲得非常清楚了,知道你是怎么做的了。上次你在另一帖子提到你的正
手相对

... 阅读全帖
e***y
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来自主题: Travel版 - 五岁的小孩可以snorkelling吗
life vest都是随便拿的,不用看票。其他浮潜的用具好像是要看wrist band,不过既
然让小孩免费入场了wrist band肯定也是有的
l******n
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来自主题: TVGame版 - Bioshock1代劇情詳解(轉載)
[翻译]生化奇兵 Bioshock 剧情小结.全
http://bbs.a9vg.com/thread-767550-1-1.html
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TABLE OF CONTENTS 目录
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{c01} ... Andrew Ryan
{c02} ... The Construction of Rapture (Rapture的诞生)
{c03} ... The Discovery of Adam (发现Adam)
{c04} ... Frank Fontaine
{c05} ... Little Sisters (小妹妹)
{c06} ... Rivalry (对立)
{c07} ... Jack Ryan
{c08} ... The... 阅读全帖
p***s
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Be very careful with your wrist. Once injured, it may take a long time to
heal. Avoid exercises that involve wrist heavily to give it time for a full
recovery.
v*****r
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来自主题: Weightlifting版 - year beginning numbers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HtBsVPMQeM&NR=1
so fully equiped with wrist wrap and elbow wrap. i know it is good to do
big weight with the wraps.
but i don't like the idea of develop strength with joint wraps.
i would just cut down the weights to more comfortable level.
already felt that dumbbell press is hard on wrist and elbow...
(75+ 75) x 5 is enough goal for me end of year
L**********s
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来自主题: yoga版 - Yoga Poses
01. Downward Facing Dog Pose: Adho Mukha Svanasana
Adho Mukha Svanasana (AH-doh MOO-kah shvah-NAHS-anna)
adho = downward
mukha = face
svana = dog
Benefits
- Elongates and releases tension from your spine
- Stretches your hamstrings, calves, arches, and hands
- Strengthens your arms, shoulders, and back
- Improves mobility of your digestive system
- Relieves back pain, headaches, insomnia and fatigue
- Helps relieve the symptoms of menopause
- Downward-Facing Dog is a ... 阅读全帖
L**********s
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来自主题: yoga版 - Yoga Poses
01. Downward Facing Dog Pose: Adho Mukha Svanasana
Adho Mukha Svanasana (AH-doh MOO-kah shvah-NAHS-anna)
adho = downward
mukha = face
svana = dog
Benefits
- Elongates and releases tension from your spine
- Stretches your hamstrings, calves, arches, and hands
- Strengthens your arms, shoulders, and back
- Improves mobility of your digestive system
- Relieves back pain, headaches, insomnia and fatigue
- Helps relieve the symptoms of menopause
- Downward-Facing Dog is a ... 阅读全帖
c********n
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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Ben - Chopin Ballade 1
I agree my wrist is too high here. Somehow, I am comfortable in that way.
Given my small hands, I feel more tension if I force my wrist down. After
all, I am not as professional as you guys are.
However, I have to clarify that I did not 砸和弦 in this piece, or at least didn't intend to do that.
b*s
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script:
NEWMAN: June 14, 1987.... Mets Phillies. We're enjoying a beautiful
afternoon
in the right field stands when a crucial Hernandez error to a five run
Phillies
ninth. Cost the Mets the game.
KRAMER: Our day was ruined. There was a lot of people, you know, they were
waiting by the player's parking lot. Now we're coming down the ramp ... [cut
to film of the day - like the Zabruter film - with the Umbrella man and
everything - Oh so brilliant parody!!!] ... Newman was in front of me. Keith
wa... 阅读全帖
b*s
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The Simpsons里面也有JFK的Parody:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PxPwF8cOoA

script:
NEWMAN: June 14, 1987.... Mets Phillies. We're enjoying a beautiful
afternoon
in the right field stands when a crucial Hernandez error to a five run
Phillies
ninth. Cost the Mets the game.
KRAMER: Our day was ruined. There was a lot of people, you know, they were
waiting by the player's parking lot. Now we're coming down the ramp ... [cut
to film of the day - like the Zabruter film - with the Umbrella man and
everyth... 阅读全帖
A**********e
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - 俺来推荐个腕带
sunpak wrist strap,wolf camera local store,$20。
有个底座拧在相机底部,另一头接相机右侧的带孔,neck strap 可以接在 wrist
strap 上。贴手背是圆角三角形的皮垫。还算舒适吧,如果安装得法的话。
用了有一个月了吧,带着这个腕带拍了将近一千张,觉得长时间手持拍摄时相当管
用。明显分担手指受力,握机更稳,抓拍更快速,换镜头也方便,而且不用担心摔
机子(对,挂着 neck strap 一样会摔机子)。竖拍或者装备比较重时效果尤其明
显。
缺点么,安装不当时有个地方会卡手,用三角架多时只帮倒忙(这个腕带的底座带
三角架孔,稳定性未知),D80 上底座挡电池仓,不过这倒不算个问题。装手柄后
再装这个,会不会影响竖拍的手感(多出个底座来)就不知道了 -- 我是把它当作
手柄替代品的。
图如下:
a***a
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - 猜猜这是哪台神机的review
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I bought this camera because I need higher quality profile pictures for my
Facebook. My 1.3 megapixel (I think that's what it is called) camera on my
flip phone wasn't cutting it. I make a dang good sexy-duck-face and with 22
glorious megapix... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: pets版 - Java wearing Kitty Caps~~
I will never declaw my cat(s)... My coworker delcawed her cat to svae her
furniture...but it's just too cruel. My boss is thinking about declaw and I
just told him I using Kitty Caps/Soft Paws as an alternative...so far so
good. I think I talked him out of it...lol
You're very lucky to have such a sweet kitten! She's only 3 months old yet
she learned "claws hurt". Sigh...Java just clawed my wrist this morning
with his back paw (now it looks like I just "slit" my wrist!!). I think I'
ll put t
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来自主题: SciFiction版 - 云图 英文版
THE GHASTLY ORDEAL OF TIMOTHY CAVENDISH
One bright dusk, four, five, no, my God, six summers ago, I strolled along a
Greenwich
avenue of mature chestnuts and mock oranges in a state of grace. Those
Regency residences
number among London’s costliest properties, but should you ever inherit one
, dear Reader, sell
it, don’t live in it. Houses like these secrete some dark sorcery that
transforms their owners into
fruitcakes. One such victim, an ex-chief of Rhodesian police, had, on the
evening in qu... 阅读全帖
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这句显然是针对基督徒常喊的一个口号而写在剧本里的,没有幽默感……
The General's office in a military station on the east front in Beotia.
An office table with a telephone, writing materials, official papers, etc.,
is set across the room. At the end of the table, a comfortable chair for the
General. Behind the chair, a window. Facing it at the other end of the
table, a plain wooden bench. At the side of the table, with its back to the
door, acommon chair, with a typewriter before it. Beside the door, which is
opposite the e... 阅读全帖
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