f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 1 awfully quiet so far, hehe, need water. |
W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 2 Patience man. This month is not over yet. A terrible month for me. after
the last graph I showed with at least 5 buy in downswing every day for 7 days and one 10 buy in downswing. I had another 12 buy in downswing later of the month.
Winrate of the month 2.4bb/100 hand. Total profit, 2000$ including rakeback.
In short, Fish runs very hot against me this month but we still come on
top in the end. HOHO...
disclaimer: not a showoff, but a summary of my terrible experience.
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: awfully quiet so far, hehe, need water.
|
s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 3 hehe, I also got $2000 including rakeback by playing Super Turbo SNG
my first winning month though, jumped from $5 level to $20 level
after
one
.
rakeback.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: Patience man. This month is not over yet. A terrible month for me. after
: the last graph I showed with at least 5 buy in downswing every day for 7 days and one 10 buy in downswing. I had another 12 buy in downswing later of the month.
: Winrate of the month 2.4bb/100 hand. Total profit, 2000$ including rakeback.
: In short, Fish runs very hot against me this month but we still come on
: top in the end. HOHO...
: disclaimer: not a showoff, but a summary of my terrible experience.
|
W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 4 a little more about the second downswing. I went uner 700$ for one of
weekdays playing until 1am. I was pissed so I took a day off the next day to
win it back. I played almost 7 hour for that day in the day time. BREAK
EVEN for the day after that (didn't win anything back). And played another 2 hour at night, down another 500$. I played 10k hands that day alone. That is 1/6th of my total hands (60k) for the month. Quite an experience. It is nothing like it~~~ lol... One of the rare occations that I feel like a DEGEN myself playing poker
The positive thing is that I think I was actually playing pretty well during this long hour of playing. I just ran very very bad. I did have terrible migraine the very next day. definitely not worth it.. It still holds true for me, the less I play, the more I win..
after
one
.
rakeback.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: Patience man. This month is not over yet. A terrible month for me. after
: the last graph I showed with at least 5 buy in downswing every day for 7 days and one 10 buy in downswing. I had another 12 buy in downswing later of the month.
: Winrate of the month 2.4bb/100 hand. Total profit, 2000$ including rakeback.
: In short, Fish runs very hot against me this month but we still come on
: top in the end. HOHO...
: disclaimer: not a showoff, but a summary of my terrible experience.
|
s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 5 nice. How many games did you play for $2K? All at $5 level?
【在 s*******o 的大作中提到】
: hehe, I also got $2000 including rakeback by playing Super Turbo SNG
: my first winning month though, jumped from $5 level to $20 level
:
: after
: one
: .
: rakeback.
|
s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 6 400 @ $5
1500 @ $10
1100 @ $20
每到下一个级别的60BI就跳级，不过还暂时没有考虑$35级别的，可能下个月会试水
一共 80 个小时， 不过这个月也一直在试验各种方法，ROI不是很稳定，希望下个月好点
玩这个实在是很不容易tilt，因为BS太常见了，经常2,3场比赛之内AA都输掉，毫无感觉
这确实是一个很好控制情绪的比赛。
【在 s*********k 的大作中提到】
: nice. How many games did you play for $2K? All at $5 level?
|
W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 7 Bad beat or not, you won't tilt when winning. come back and tell us again whether this game is tilting or not when you have a big downswing. ~~
希望下个月好点
玩这个实在是很不容易tilt，因为BS太常见了，经常2,3场比赛之内AA都输掉，毫无感觉
这确实是一个很好控制情绪的比赛。
【在 s*******o 的大作中提到】
: 400 @ $5
: 1500 @ $10
: 1100 @ $20
: 每到下一个级别的60BI就跳级，不过还暂时没有考虑$35级别的，可能下个月会试水
: 一共 80 个小时， 不过这个月也一直在试验各种方法，ROI不是很稳定，希望下个月好点
: 玩这个实在是很不容易tilt，因为BS太常见了，经常2,3场比赛之内AA都输掉，毫无感觉
: 这确实是一个很好控制情绪的比赛。
|
s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 8 hehe，过去这个月就好几次300-400的downswing，太正常了。。
感觉
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: Bad beat or not, you won't tilt when winning. come back and tell us again whether this game is tilting or not when you have a big downswing. ~~
:
: 希望下个月好点
: 玩这个实在是很不容易tilt，因为BS太常见了，经常2,3场比赛之内AA都输掉，毫无感觉
: 这确实是一个很好控制情绪的比赛。
|
s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 9 当然过程中会觉得不爽，想骂FTP，但是打法不会受太大影响倒是
而且这玩意不容易出现长期BB，呵呵
【在 s*******o 的大作中提到】
: hehe，过去这个月就好几次300-400的downswing，太正常了。。
:
: 感觉
|
s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 10 Nice. I only play Super Turbo MTT/Satellite yet.
好点
感觉
【在 s*******o 的大作中提到】
: 400 @ $5
: 1500 @ $10
: 1100 @ $20
: 每到下一个级别的60BI就跳级，不过还暂时没有考虑$35级别的，可能下个月会试水
: 一共 80 个小时， 不过这个月也一直在试验各种方法，ROI不是很稳定，希望下个月好点
: 玩这个实在是很不容易tilt，因为BS太常见了，经常2,3场比赛之内AA都输掉，毫无感觉
: 这确实是一个很好控制情绪的比赛。
|
|
|
f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 11 good work, how to handle a bad month really defines a good and bad player.
2K/month is still way above avg. players, you can officially claim yourself
to be able to make a living now, lol.
after
days and one 10 buy in downswing. I had another 12 buy in downswing later of
the month.
rakeback.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: Patience man. This month is not over yet. A terrible month for me. after
: the last graph I showed with at least 5 buy in downswing every day for 7 days and one 10 buy in downswing. I had another 12 buy in downswing later of the month.
: Winrate of the month 2.4bb/100 hand. Total profit, 2000$ including rakeback.
: In short, Fish runs very hot against me this month but we still come on
: top in the end. HOHO...
: disclaimer: not a showoff, but a summary of my terrible experience.
|
p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 12 I seem lost focus in my HUSNG game after starting to play Rush. First
time have a losing month on HUSNG in my about 20 month HUSNG career. Getting
it back this month and hit a new career high in winning after the longest
flat curve in my SS. Game is still good and still tons of fishes there,
just need to stay focus and continue to improve my game and tilt/ego control
.
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: awfully quiet so far, hehe, need water.
|
f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 13 for a player with 20 month green record, you should really have a lot of
confidence in yourself, lol, just tune up better and net more $$$.
Getting
control
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: I seem lost focus in my HUSNG game after starting to play Rush. First
: time have a losing month on HUSNG in my about 20 month HUSNG career. Getting
: it back this month and hit a new career high in winning after the longest
: flat curve in my SS. Game is still good and still tons of fishes there,
: just need to stay focus and continue to improve my game and tilt/ego control
: .
:
:
|
p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 14 BTW, I ss you , nice job fryking. you have a VERY good roi and nice
SS curve in SNG. I only have that high of ROI in my first 1 week of play.
hehe.
is Super tubo SNG really profitable? what kind of push/shove table your
guys are using?
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: awfully quiet so far, hehe, need water.
|
s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 15 Holly, played Super Turbo $5, quite sick.
Win first one: allin w/ 66 when 3 left and both call !!! and hit 6.
Play additional two. Quite sick. When BB=100 and 4/5 left, it is SICK.
Both allin and get called.
好点
感觉
【在 s*******o 的大作中提到】
: 400 @ $5
: 1500 @ $10
: 1100 @ $20
: 每到下一个级别的60BI就跳级，不过还暂时没有考虑$35级别的，可能下个月会试水
: 一共 80 个小时， 不过这个月也一直在试验各种方法，ROI不是很稳定，希望下个月好点
: 玩这个实在是很不容易tilt，因为BS太常见了，经常2,3场比赛之内AA都输掉，毫无感觉
: 这确实是一个很好控制情绪的比赛。
|
T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 16 I am f*cking grinding in NL 10 level in Feb, started with $200, like I post
before, grind + rakeback to $420. Running pretty good I have admit, because
I hardly play any hands and maybe play once every other day.
Then I broke my bankroll management plan and jump to NL25. In my original
plan, I can only do so when my bankroll reach 500.
Run up my bank roll to $540 pretty quickly and then one day I lost four buy-
in and lost $110 (Playing bad and got sucked out) and my bankroll back to $
429.
To punish myself, I withdraw all money out and decide to stop playing online
for a while. I was pissed because I wasn't able to stick to my plan and
tell the truth I wasn't sure if I still want to stick to it because it is so
boring I may not willing to put more times on it :(
All in all, a lot less online poker and I couldn't be happier, especially I
can hardly win any meaningful money off it like all you high hands. |
c****1
发帖数: 457 | 17 you are true grinder. nice steady second income.
i feel myself more like a recreational player. no discipline.
play too much FTOP events, down maybe 3000 this month.
FTP muilti entry is a bloody money sucker.
after
days and one 10 buy in downswing. I had another 12 buy in downswing later of
the month.
rakeback.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: Patience man. This month is not over yet. A terrible month for me. after
: the last graph I showed with at least 5 buy in downswing every day for 7 days and one 10 buy in downswing. I had another 12 buy in downswing later of the month.
: Winrate of the month 2.4bb/100 hand. Total profit, 2000$ including rakeback.
: In short, Fish runs very hot against me this month but we still come on
: top in the end. HOHO...
: disclaimer: not a showoff, but a summary of my terrible experience.
|
c*****t
发帖数: 817 | 18 A good month for me -- up $3000, $2800 from making it to the final three of
an $18000 guarantee. Then we made a deal and split the prize.
I only play MTTs, because I have been so stinky in cash games and single
table SNGs. I tried many times to play cash games, but keep losing in all
levels and all games, from NL100 to NL 10, including PL Omaha and Omaha Hi/
Lo. I am still wondering why MTTs could be so different from cash games. |
c****1
发帖数: 457 | 19 yeah, way way way too many differences. whole different feeling.
after initial small success in cashgame, i thought cash game is not that
much diff from tournies and i can quickly master it. Then I lost 30k in one
day and realized that the deep stacks, your opponents' style and payout
structure make the game so diff than the tourney games i used to play. It's
so sad that I learn this in a hard way. Recently I spend about one hour to
review cash game hand histories before i actually play poker to study cash
game theory.
of
【在 c*****t 的大作中提到】
: A good month for me -- up $3000, $2800 from making it to the final three of
: an $18000 guarantee. Then we made a deal and split the prize.
: I only play MTTs, because I have been so stinky in cash games and single
: table SNGs. I tried many times to play cash games, but keep losing in all
: levels and all games, from NL100 to NL 10, including PL Omaha and Omaha Hi/
: Lo. I am still wondering why MTTs could be so different from cash games.
|
y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 20 Then I lost 30k in one day???
typo? -30K usd in one day, what level are you playing, 100/200 level?
one
s
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: yeah, way way way too many differences. whole different feeling.
: after initial small success in cashgame, i thought cash game is not that
: much diff from tournies and i can quickly master it. Then I lost 30k in one
: day and realized that the deep stacks, your opponents' style and payout
: structure make the game so diff than the tourney games i used to play. It's
: so sad that I learn this in a hard way. Recently I spend about one hour to
: review cash game hand histories before i actually play poker to study cash
: game theory.
:
: of
|
|
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 21 yeah, I wonder how windstrom can do it?
when I saw windstrom quit working for one day and tried to get his money
back, that is sign of tilting. if I were him, I probably will lost more,
especially if you run bad, ftp usually keep dealing u bad beats and let you
tilt more. it is amaing he can pull it off. his stamina is good too :)
of
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: you are true grinder. nice steady second income.
: i feel myself more like a recreational player. no discipline.
: play too much FTOP events, down maybe 3000 this month.
: FTP muilti entry is a bloody money sucker.
:
: after
: days and one 10 buy in downswing. I had another 12 buy in downswing later of
: the month.
: rakeback.
|
f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 22 good job, keep it going!
cash games are like MTTs but with deeper stacks/small blind level, it
requires more reading and thinking. most pros agree that cash games are
harder (if they're comparable anyway).
for example, late stage in MTT, a lot of plays are becoming "auto/standard"
when you only got 15-20BB left, every good player knows that. the game
becomes "simpler" in some sense.
of
【在 c*****t 的大作中提到】
: A good month for me -- up $3000, $2800 from making it to the final three of
: an $18000 guarantee. Then we made a deal and split the prize.
: I only play MTTs, because I have been so stinky in cash games and single
: table SNGs. I tried many times to play cash games, but keep losing in all
: levels and all games, from NL100 to NL 10, including PL Omaha and Omaha Hi/
: Lo. I am still wondering why MTTs could be so different from cash games.
|
W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 23 was quite an accomplishment to myself to play 10k hand in one day. I think I
did ok. Maybe a bit tilt but I think I was still playing at a level that I
can win or I would probably stop. I chat with Lundon that afternoon. He can
probably tell you that I was having a pretty high spirit even after one day
of grinding with a BE results. I at least proved to myself that I can do
long hours playing at a decent level. I am pretty happy about it. The volumn
I pulled last month was ok. 60k hands equal to less than 60 hours 4 tabling
rush, including the one day craziness. I would prefer to play less, but
the bad results keep me playing longer hours. I would not consider playing
longer during bad stretch as a sign of tilting unless I feel I am playing in
a much worse level than I normally play.
you
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: yeah, I wonder how windstrom can do it?
: when I saw windstrom quit working for one day and tried to get his money
: back, that is sign of tilting. if I were him, I probably will lost more,
: especially if you run bad, ftp usually keep dealing u bad beats and let you
: tilt more. it is amaing he can pull it off. his stamina is good too :)
:
: of
|
c****1
发帖数: 457 | 24 get one day off just for playing poker. crazy. he likes poker more than i do
:)
you
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: yeah, I wonder how windstrom can do it?
: when I saw windstrom quit working for one day and tried to get his money
: back, that is sign of tilting. if I were him, I probably will lost more,
: especially if you run bad, ftp usually keep dealing u bad beats and let you
: tilt more. it is amaing he can pull it off. his stamina is good too :)
:
: of
|
c****1
发帖数: 457 | 25 5/10 and 10/20 HU. A guy plays very very LAG. either flop str8 to beat my
aces or call big 3 bet with 2 6 off suit and hit two pairs. When I flopped
two pairs, he catched his miracle river trip. I couldnt resisting to compete
with him. And he said he would not play 5/10 any long in that day and if I
want to play with him, i have to go to 10/20 or higher. Then I went to 10/20
, up and down a bit. he rebought about once and i rebought twice. finally,
both of us flopped a trip, but he had a better kicker. I lost a 10k pot,
biggest pot in my life. In HU cash game, after playing 2 hours, every player
may have about 2-5 buyins(200~500BB). Pot control is so important even
against a very loose player. Too expensive to learn.
10k~30K loss is very common in 5/10 HU, a PS qualifier was trailing Isidur1 10k yesterday at some point is the superstar showdown HU match. I didnt expect the variance is so big.
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: Then I lost 30k in one day???
: typo? -30K usd in one day, what level are you playing, 100/200 level?
:
: one
: s
|
s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 26 you are rich!
flopped
compete
I
20
player
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: 5/10 and 10/20 HU. A guy plays very very LAG. either flop str8 to beat my
: aces or call big 3 bet with 2 6 off suit and hit two pairs. When I flopped
: two pairs, he catched his miracle river trip. I couldnt resisting to compete
: with him. And he said he would not play 5/10 any long in that day and if I
: want to play with him, i have to go to 10/20 or higher. Then I went to 10/20
: , up and down a bit. he rebought about once and i rebought twice. finally,
: both of us flopped a trip, but he had a better kicker. I lost a 10k pot,
: biggest pot in my life. In HU cash game, after playing 2 hours, every player
: may have about 2-5 buyins(200~500BB). Pot control is so important even
: against a very loose player. Too expensive to learn.
|
p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 27 for HU cash game, highly recommend Phil Gondfond's vid. For me, much
better than most vid on CR.
I do not play much HU cash, but it improves my reading in HUSNG a lot
, I can comforablely call big bet on the river with K high and lay down top
pair based on read someitime in HU.
flopped
compete
I
20
player
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: 5/10 and 10/20 HU. A guy plays very very LAG. either flop str8 to beat my
: aces or call big 3 bet with 2 6 off suit and hit two pairs. When I flopped
: two pairs, he catched his miracle river trip. I couldnt resisting to compete
: with him. And he said he would not play 5/10 any long in that day and if I
: want to play with him, i have to go to 10/20 or higher. Then I went to 10/20
: , up and down a bit. he rebought about once and i rebought twice. finally,
: both of us flopped a trip, but he had a better kicker. I lost a 10k pot,
: biggest pot in my life. In HU cash game, after playing 2 hours, every player
: may have about 2-5 buyins(200~500BB). Pot control is so important even
: against a very loose player. Too expensive to learn.
|
W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 28 靠,, 他要打10/20.. 你就打10/20.. 牛..
flopped
compete
I
20
player
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: 5/10 and 10/20 HU. A guy plays very very LAG. either flop str8 to beat my
: aces or call big 3 bet with 2 6 off suit and hit two pairs. When I flopped
: two pairs, he catched his miracle river trip. I couldnt resisting to compete
: with him. And he said he would not play 5/10 any long in that day and if I
: want to play with him, i have to go to 10/20 or higher. Then I went to 10/20
: , up and down a bit. he rebought about once and i rebought twice. finally,
: both of us flopped a trip, but he had a better kicker. I lost a 10k pot,
: biggest pot in my life. In HU cash game, after playing 2 hours, every player
: may have about 2-5 buyins(200~500BB). Pot control is so important even
: against a very loose player. Too expensive to learn.
|
s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 29 vely vely rich!
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 靠,, 他要打10/20.. 你就打10/20.. 牛..
:
: flopped
: compete
: I
: 20
: player
|
L****n
发帖数: 490 | 30 Heads up is totally different than full ring game even 6 max. I don't
understand why cmis would jump to high stake HU. Even 0.25/.50 HU is not
easy to beat. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 31 Lack of discipline in general, too optimistic with our own skill level. This can sometimes help someone to his advantage breaking into higher stake much faster than normal people, but most of time, it only makes you busto~
I am, on the contrary, too conservative and lack of determination to level up. Easily satisfied with small money.
The former goes 99% busto and 1% (probably less) gets up there. the latter 0% goes busto, but also has 0% chance to get up there.. lol |
s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 32 lol you are a f**king grinder!
This can sometimes help someone to his advantage breaking into higher stake
much faster than normal people, but most of time, it only makes you busto~
up. Easily satisfied with small money.
0% goes busto, but also has 0% chance to get up there.. lol
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: Lack of discipline in general, too optimistic with our own skill level. This can sometimes help someone to his advantage breaking into higher stake much faster than normal people, but most of time, it only makes you busto~
: I am, on the contrary, too conservative and lack of determination to level up. Easily satisfied with small money.
: The former goes 99% busto and 1% (probably less) gets up there. the latter 0% goes busto, but also has 0% chance to get up there.. lol
|
L****n
发帖数: 490 | 33 mm can go up to NL200 le. GOGOGO!!! Today, I saw "player" in NL100 and
raised me on flop and I have to fold my AA =( |
p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 34 sorry, did not realize it was you when playing. I had TT on KT blank board
. wanna get money in the flop. lol. good laydown for AA.
gl@tables.
I had 3 set over set today. 2@1-2 and one at electro. do not know how to
get away from it.
【在 L****n 的大作中提到】
: mm can go up to NL200 le. GOGOGO!!! Today, I saw "player" in NL100 and
: raised me on flop and I have to fold my AA =(
|
c*****t
发帖数: 817 | 35 cmis, you were playing against this guy:
http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/mikki696
He is the 3rd place for the hold'em player of 2010. He won 432k during the
past 2 years. I heard that HU is all about choosing your opponent. Guess you
shouldnt have played against him |
c****1
发帖数: 457 | 36 在FTP上打了2000多把110buy in HUSNG,觉得比较comfortable，所以到了cash game觉
得相对应的级别差不多是5/10. 现在发现HUSNG和cash最大区别在于一个是越打stack越
shallow，一个是越打stack越deep。每次自己都是被对手的几个bad beat弄得tilt，然
后pot没control好，没法lay down second best hand，结果输掉200bb+的pot。其实我
开始没想长期转战HU cash game.当时就是想多玩玩不同type的game，看看players的风
格和最佳策略随着game不同有什么变化，研究一下为什么会有这种变化，进而加深对
poker的理解。只是HU这东西太让人上瘾，ego和tilt。总是不服气，所以人家让我去10
/20，我就去了，绝对非理性。我不rich，30k loss对我已经非常非常多了，很伤心，
很郁闷：（。 不过HU像恶魔一样确实容易让人丧失理智，有一个中国player（
like0731@FTP)上周挑战fcf，打40/80，赢了20K。结果没过几天，好像就是前天吧，当
天就输60k，直接从career winning player变成broke。
【在 L****n 的大作中提到】
: Heads up is totally different than full ring game even 6 max. I don't
: understand why cmis would jump to high stake HU. Even 0.25/.50 HU is not
: easy to beat.
|
T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 37 nothing you can do here except accepting the factors that online pokers (ftp
and stars alike) tends to deal cooler boards. a lot of time two pair is
not enough to put a lot of money in and you may have to laydown bottom set
occasionaly if you figured ppl had a higher set and you guys both deep.
I guess that is nature of playing online and expect a lot big hand vs big
hand and a lot of coolers.
the last time I saw a set over set in live game was two month ago. I never
see a set over set situation happen in live game more than two time in one
session, not to mention happen to same people.
board
to
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: sorry, did not realize it was you when playing. I had TT on KT blank board
: . wanna get money in the flop. lol. good laydown for AA.
: gl@tables.
: I had 3 set over set today. 2@1-2 and one at electro. do not know how to
: get away from it.
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 38
board
to
Really easy laydown for me in a 4 way pot.
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: sorry, did not realize it was you when playing. I had TT on KT blank board
: . wanna get money in the flop. lol. good laydown for AA.
: gl@tables.
: I had 3 set over set today. 2@1-2 and one at electro. do not know how to
: get away from it.
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r****r
发帖数: 1394 | 39 no one playing online for $ should believe online dealing is manipulated..
ftp
never
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: nothing you can do here except accepting the factors that online pokers (ftp
: and stars alike) tends to deal cooler boards. a lot of time two pair is
: not enough to put a lot of money in and you may have to laydown bottom set
: occasionaly if you figured ppl had a higher set and you guys both deep.
: I guess that is nature of playing online and expect a lot big hand vs big
: hand and a lot of coolers.
: the last time I saw a set over set in live game was two month ago. I never
: see a set over set situation happen in live game more than two time in one
: session, not to mention happen to same people.
:
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 40
ftp
That's because it takes 50 hours live to get the same amount of hands you
get in one hour RUSH.
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: nothing you can do here except accepting the factors that online pokers (ftp
: and stars alike) tends to deal cooler boards. a lot of time two pair is
: not enough to put a lot of money in and you may have to laydown bottom set
: occasionaly if you figured ppl had a higher set and you guys both deep.
: I guess that is nature of playing online and expect a lot big hand vs big
: hand and a lot of coolers.
: the last time I saw a set over set in live game was two month ago. I never
: see a set over set situation happen in live game more than two time in one
: session, not to mention happen to same people.
:
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 41
10
I think 110 buyin SNG is only equivalent to NL100 HU cash ... Seriously, I
think it would take you some time to beat a NL100 regular.
HU SNG is probably easier to master since the shallow stack. It gets to 20,
30 big blind level very quickly.
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: 在FTP上打了2000多把110buy in HUSNG,觉得比较comfortable，所以到了cash game觉
: 得相对应的级别差不多是5/10. 现在发现HUSNG和cash最大区别在于一个是越打stack越
: shallow，一个是越打stack越deep。每次自己都是被对手的几个bad beat弄得tilt，然
: 后pot没control好，没法lay down second best hand，结果输掉200bb+的pot。其实我
: 开始没想长期转战HU cash game.当时就是想多玩玩不同type的game，看看players的风
: 格和最佳策略随着game不同有什么变化，研究一下为什么会有这种变化，进而加深对
: poker的理解。只是HU这东西太让人上瘾，ego和tilt。总是不服气，所以人家让我去10
: /20，我就去了，绝对非理性。我不rich，30k loss对我已经非常非常多了，很伤心，
: 很郁闷：（。 不过HU像恶魔一样确实容易让人丧失理智，有一个中国player（
: like0731@FTP)上周挑战fcf，打40/80，赢了20K。结果没过几天，好像就是前天吧，当
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 42
10
HU cash is drying down now. not many fish you can catch. some
pro HU cash play start to play HUSNG. HU has big swing, so not blame
yourself for bad play. there are some luck factor as well.
BTW, I saw that like0371 play 40/80 NL 6 max yesterday. I
played with him on 400NL b4. 2p2 said he jumps level very fast. guess
isurdur1 style.
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: 在FTP上打了2000多把110buy in HUSNG,觉得比较comfortable，所以到了cash game觉
: 得相对应的级别差不多是5/10. 现在发现HUSNG和cash最大区别在于一个是越打stack越
: shallow，一个是越打stack越deep。每次自己都是被对手的几个bad beat弄得tilt，然
: 后pot没control好，没法lay down second best hand，结果输掉200bb+的pot。其实我
: 开始没想长期转战HU cash game.当时就是想多玩玩不同type的game，看看players的风
: 格和最佳策略随着game不同有什么变化，研究一下为什么会有这种变化，进而加深对
: poker的理解。只是HU这东西太让人上瘾，ego和tilt。总是不服气，所以人家让我去10
: /20，我就去了，绝对非理性。我不rich，30k loss对我已经非常非常多了，很伤心，
: 很郁闷：（。 不过HU像恶魔一样确实容易让人丧失理智，有一个中国player（
: like0731@FTP)上周挑战fcf，打40/80，赢了20K。结果没过几天，好像就是前天吧，当
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 43 like0731 was playing $0.05 game last June... I move up sooooo slow comparing to
him. |
f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 44 一将功成万骨枯。
时间其实也不是问题，很多人喜欢打牌，打了半辈子，也就是micro stake的水平。其
他很多行业也是。
comparing to
【在 L****n 的大作中提到】
: like0731 was playing $0.05 game last June... I move up sooooo slow comparing to
: him.
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 45 some ppl just get a hot steak and build their bank roll quickly so they
decide to move up and up , having no idea of bank roll management or
whatsoever. 1 of 100 survived and stay there and the other fall like fly and
may never get there again.
plus a lot of online players are kids who is barely 20. they don't have much
to start with and even though
they go busto, they can still go to college and make a normal living . to
those kids, online poker is a big video game, and all those poker strategy
are Mi Ji to the game.
plus, really, what is the fun to be a professional player unless you can be
fcf? grinding is a f$cking pain and bad for your health. if they have play 6
-7 hours intense multiple table poker and just own 70-80k per years. then I
will rather find a normal job.
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 一将功成万骨枯。
: 时间其实也不是问题，很多人喜欢打牌，打了半辈子，也就是micro stake的水平。其
: 他很多行业也是。
:
: comparing to
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 46 agree, and this is exactly what a lot of pros went through, or, some never come
back. many admitted they built a roll of $100K or $200K in just a few months
, and got busted even faster. some even went up and down like this for a few
times.
fcf is right, if you don't have a proven record of making 3x of your regular
salary, don't even think about becoming a pro. for the rest of us, in the
long term, it's really not much different from working at macdonalds.
that said, i do believe there're still a lot for us to learn/improve. it's a
sport-like game, getting better than yesterday is always fun.
and
much
strategy
be
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: some ppl just get a hot steak and build their bank roll quickly so they
: decide to move up and up , having no idea of bank roll management or
: whatsoever. 1 of 100 survived and stay there and the other fall like fly and
: may never get there again.
: plus a lot of online players are kids who is barely 20. they don't have much
: to start with and even though
: they go busto, they can still go to college and make a normal living . to
: those kids, online poker is a big video game, and all those poker strategy
: are Mi Ji to the game.
: plus, really, what is the fun to be a professional player unless you can be
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 47 我觉得如果要pro其实在国内生活会更好。。
come
months
few
regular
a
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: agree, and this is exactly what a lot of pros went through, or, some never come
: back. many admitted they built a roll of $100K or $200K in just a few months
: , and got busted even faster. some even went up and down like this for a few
: times.
: fcf is right, if you don't have a proven record of making 3x of your regular
: salary, don't even think about becoming a pro. for the rest of us, in the
: long term, it's really not much different from working at macdonalds.
: that said, i do believe there're still a lot for us to learn/improve. it's a
: sport-like game, getting better than yesterday is always fun.
:
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s*******1
发帖数: 428 | 48 I would like to join some FTP our web play. maybe to watch for starter.
thanks guys. |
f*f
发帖数: 121 | 49 110 husng is definitely not equivalent of 5/10 hu cash, it's probably close
to 1/2 hu cash. And cash game vs husng is really different, your styles
fits the shorter stack size much better than deeper, and without enough
experience, you would have difficulty to judge how strong you can push a
hand when you are deep. You should play more lower stakes to gain
experience if you want to continue to play HU cash, and probably try not to
play anything deeper than 200bb. If the table gets that deep, just ask to
switch to a new table, most player would be fine with that request.
10
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: 在FTP上打了2000多把110buy in HUSNG,觉得比较comfortable，所以到了cash game觉
: 得相对应的级别差不多是5/10. 现在发现HUSNG和cash最大区别在于一个是越打stack越
: shallow，一个是越打stack越deep。每次自己都是被对手的几个bad beat弄得tilt，然
: 后pot没control好，没法lay down second best hand，结果输掉200bb+的pot。其实我
: 开始没想长期转战HU cash game.当时就是想多玩玩不同type的game，看看players的风
: 格和最佳策略随着game不同有什么变化，研究一下为什么会有这种变化，进而加深对
: poker的理解。只是HU这东西太让人上瘾，ego和tilt。总是不服气，所以人家让我去10
: /20，我就去了，绝对非理性。我不rich，30k loss对我已经非常非常多了，很伤心，
: 很郁闷：（。 不过HU像恶魔一样确实容易让人丧失理智，有一个中国player（
: like0731@FTP)上周挑战fcf，打40/80，赢了20K。结果没过几天，好像就是前天吧，当
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 50 I play HUSNG a lot ,but not much HU cash. But I agree HUSNG is so different
from HU cash. A HUSNG player may not be a great HU cash player, and HU cash
player may not play HUSNG well. It need way different skill and mind set.
I played some 100$ ST HUSNG with a HU cash pro with over 300k winning and I
feel have decent edge over him.
For HU cash , it is much deeper and pot control, position is more important.
But HU cash has not blind increase, so no need to adjust your play based on
stack/BB much.
close
to
【在 f*f 的大作中提到】
: 110 husng is definitely not equivalent of 5/10 hu cash, it's probably close
: to 1/2 hu cash. And cash game vs husng is really different, your styles
: fits the shorter stack size much better than deeper, and without enough
: experience, you would have difficulty to judge how strong you can push a
: hand when you are deep. You should play more lower stakes to gain
: experience if you want to continue to play HU cash, and probably try not to
: play anything deeper than 200bb. If the table gets that deep, just ask to
: switch to a new table, most player would be fine with that request.
:
: 10
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 51 I play HUSNG a lot ,but not much HU cash. But I agree HUSNG is so different
from HU cash. A HUSNG player may not be a great HU cash player, and HU cash
player may not play HUSNG well. It need way different skill and mind set.
I played some 100$ ST HUSNG with a HU cash pro with over 300k winning and I
feel have decent edge over him.
For HU cash , it is much deeper and pot control, position is more important.
But HU cash has not blind increase, so no need to adjust your play based on
stack/BB much.
close
to
【在 f*f 的大作中提到】
: 110 husng is definitely not equivalent of 5/10 hu cash, it's probably close
: to 1/2 hu cash. And cash game vs husng is really different, your styles
: fits the shorter stack size much better than deeper, and without enough
: experience, you would have difficulty to judge how strong you can push a
: hand when you are deep. You should play more lower stakes to gain
: experience if you want to continue to play HU cash, and probably try not to
: play anything deeper than 200bb. If the table gets that deep, just ask to
: switch to a new table, most player would be fine with that request.
:
: 10
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