f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 1 David "raptor" Benefield said in current issue of cardplayer...
"most 2/4NL online players could crush 50/100NL game 5 years ago... and
there's almost no bad 2/4NL player any more".
this gives a good pic of what today's game is.
he's a big pro and friend of phil galfond too. he sat behind durrrr and
watched him play for over a year before (isn't this the thing EV MM wants?
lol).
but, in the end, he admitted he's currently in a big downswing of $1.6M,
which sounds to me, = broke. | h*******s 发帖数: 3932 | 2 You mean he sat behind durrr's computer and watched him playing? hehe that's
fun.
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】 : David "raptor" Benefield said in current issue of cardplayer... : "most 2/4NL online players could crush 50/100NL game 5 years ago... and : there's almost no bad 2/4NL player any more". : this gives a good pic of what today's game is. : he's a big pro and friend of phil galfond too. he sat behind durrrr and : watched him play for over a year before (isn't this the thing EV MM wants? : lol). : but, in the end, he admitted he's currently in a big downswing of $1.6M, : which sounds to me, = broke.
| s*********k 发帖数: 1989 | 3 It is so true that there is no bad player even at micro level.
One example is SPECUNDER. I used to meet him very times at low level MTT/
Satellite (he plays fulltime from Netherland and once we chat).
Once he got 2500FTP/MTT/Satellite for 240+16 ticket, ran into SUnday Brawl
final table, begged to has deal TIMES(when 7/5/3 ppl left) and none cared,
and won it at the end with 100+K. Now he never looked back(play high-stake
regularly now). I posted this here before. | T*********k 发帖数: 1621 | 4 no. the bad player are still there at every level. but they are far less
than they are used to be.
and i am just talking about those can't lay down top pair kind of bad.
The super bad, which means calling u down using a under pair or even A high,
are like panda now. you are lucky to find one in a week's playing time.
No easy money. that is what i see it.
the easy money is from live casinos. but again, because we can't play there
everyday and in short term luck dictates so sometime you could lose big to
dummies. lol.
【在 s*********k 的大作中提到】 : It is so true that there is no bad player even at micro level. : One example is SPECUNDER. I used to meet him very times at low level MTT/ : Satellite (he plays fulltime from Netherland and once we chat). : Once he got 2500FTP/MTT/Satellite for 240+16 ticket, ran into SUnday Brawl : final table, begged to has deal TIMES(when 7/5/3 ppl left) and none cared, : and won it at the end with 100+K. Now he never looked back(play high-stake : regularly now). I posted this here before.
| f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 5 yes, he did over durrrr's shoulder for a year, how great was that? and i
guess those years were durrrr's hottest ones too.
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【在 h*******s 的大作中提到】 : You mean he sat behind durrr's computer and watched him playing? hehe that's : fun.
| f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 6 yeah, live games still have plenty of suckers, but the problem is really
time investment/reward, e.g., we may feel good about winning $500 for a day
there by 1 or 2 hands, but talking about 10 hours or 200 hands? sounds
tiring indeed. plus those days when you have to go home losing $200 or
breaking even, overall is more grinding than online.
online game is pretty dead now, a handful of 3/6 or 5/10 games at most, and
everyone is a shark.
high,
there
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】 : no. the bad player are still there at every level. but they are far less : than they are used to be. : and i am just talking about those can't lay down top pair kind of bad. : The super bad, which means calling u down using a under pair or even A high, : are like panda now. you are lucky to find one in a week's playing time. : No easy money. that is what i see it. : the easy money is from live casinos. but again, because we can't play there : everyday and in short term luck dictates so sometime you could lose big to : dummies. lol.
| h*******s 发帖数: 3932 | 7 我在NL25目前9bb/100,折算成小时工资简直不如睡觉去,升级到NL50也不可能有本质
变化,到NL100搞不好还要输。所以现在我有点时间都在catch up Netflix的电影,或
者看看那个Jeff Hwang写的PLO的书,300多页看起来还挺累。
day
and
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】 : yeah, live games still have plenty of suckers, but the problem is really : time investment/reward, e.g., we may feel good about winning $500 for a day : there by 1 or 2 hands, but talking about 10 hours or 200 hands? sounds : tiring indeed. plus those days when you have to go home losing $200 or : breaking even, overall is more grinding than online. : online game is pretty dead now, a handful of 3/6 or 5/10 games at most, and : everyone is a shark. : : high, : there
| p*******p 发帖数: 13670 | 8 jeff hwang的书总结下来就是一句话
不要chase no nuts
比如小full house, no nut flush,no nut straight
【在 h*******s 的大作中提到】 : 我在NL25目前9bb/100,折算成小时工资简直不如睡觉去,升级到NL50也不可能有本质 : 变化,到NL100搞不好还要输。所以现在我有点时间都在catch up Netflix的电影,或 : 者看看那个Jeff Hwang写的PLO的书,300多页看起来还挺累。 : : day : and
| p****r 发帖数: 9164 | 9 There are still plenty of fish out of there. I play most HUSNG , middle-
high stakes, there are tons of bad players. the key things is that you have
to learn new game, improve yoursel to a new level. It is not the days that
you can just sit there and wait to get nuts to get paid. NL Holdem ring
game is getting dry now, but there of tons of other opportunity poping up.
day
and
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】 : yeah, live games still have plenty of suckers, but the problem is really : time investment/reward, e.g., we may feel good about winning $500 for a day : there by 1 or 2 hands, but talking about 10 hours or 200 hands? sounds : tiring indeed. plus those days when you have to go home losing $200 or : breaking even, overall is more grinding than online. : online game is pretty dead now, a handful of 3/6 or 5/10 games at most, and : everyone is a shark. : : high, : there
| h*******s 发帖数: 3932 | 10 估计是太tight了。
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】 : jeff hwang的书总结下来就是一句话 : 不要chase no nuts : 比如小full house, no nut flush,no nut straight
| D*A 发帖数: 1169 | 11 online has lots of advantages, as thos poker site ads,play any time with any
level, but now i am pretty much lost interests in playing online.
the local town has a poker room , but it is e-table, which i dislike,
otherwise i have to drive 1 hour to the nearest poker room with real dealers
..
day
and
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】 : yeah, live games still have plenty of suckers, but the problem is really : time investment/reward, e.g., we may feel good about winning $500 for a day : there by 1 or 2 hands, but talking about 10 hours or 200 hands? sounds : tiring indeed. plus those days when you have to go home losing $200 or : breaking even, overall is more grinding than online. : online game is pretty dead now, a handful of 3/6 or 5/10 games at most, and : everyone is a shark. : : high, : there
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