M******0
发帖数: 1280 | 1 星期天俱乐部里３个state 前十的小孩在一起开小灶。老头总教练亲自出马。
king of court, 5分赢３分算赢，赢的去右边，输的在左边。儿子比另两个弱
一点，但也赢了一些。练的东西在point play 里才真正体现出来。我看他许
多球步伐仓促，动作就变形。新赛季还有1个月就开始了，希望他再进步一下。
http://youtu.be/_c34EVO_BhM |
b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 2 不喜欢他的“ready/neutral" position -- 他的拍子的拍头是靠左， 拍面的对着网（
平行）。 这对他打反手有力， 但除非他反手比正手强， 而且准备打70%反手， 30%
正手， 不然我认为得改。。。 可以问问他教练。
正手引拍也不是那么clean, 不过这和上面说的有关。
sorry if this sounded a bit harsh....
【在 M******0 的大作中提到】
: 星期天俱乐部里３个state 前十的小孩在一起开小灶。老头总教练亲自出马。
: king of court, 5分赢３分算赢，赢的去右边，输的在左边。儿子比另两个弱
: 一点，但也赢了一些。练的东西在point play 里才真正体现出来。我看他许
: 多球步伐仓促，动作就变形。新赛季还有1个月就开始了，希望他再进步一下。
: http://youtu.be/_c34EVO_BhM
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 3 i do like the atp forehand stroke, but some of the follow through finish is
a bit too low. This tell me he is going for a bit more pace on those shots,
if he can finish the shot around shoulder high, it will sacrifice some pace
but gain more depth... depth > pace
【在 M******0 的大作中提到】
: 星期天俱乐部里３个state 前十的小孩在一起开小灶。老头总教练亲自出马。
: king of court, 5分赢３分算赢，赢的去右边，输的在左边。儿子比另两个弱
: 一点，但也赢了一些。练的东西在point play 里才真正体现出来。我看他许
: 多球步伐仓促，动作就变形。新赛季还有1个月就开始了，希望他再进步一下。
: http://youtu.be/_c34EVO_BhM
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M******0
发帖数: 1280 | 4 No no sorry, not at all. That's the points everybody see except him. His
grip is too much western that's why 拍面的对着网. 拍头是靠左准备take back 打
正手。
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: 不喜欢他的“ready/neutral" position -- 他的拍子的拍头是靠左， 拍面的对着网（
: 平行）。 这对他打反手有力， 但除非他反手比正手强， 而且准备打70%反手， 30%
: 正手， 不然我认为得改。。。 可以问问他教练。
: 正手引拍也不是那么clean, 不过这和上面说的有关。
: sorry if this sounded a bit harsh....
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f*********e
发帖数: 179 | 5 反手不错。正手有多余的准备动作（拍头某个时刻朝前方），和Jack Sock的问题类似，
个人认为正手从ready position 到拍子开始加速的过程，要简洁快速. |
M******0
发帖数: 1280 | 6 Yeah, moving to an ATP forehand was the goal for the last several months.
Then, these new problems of the ready-take back period were created. Both
coaches knew it. The low follow through was an old problem of him.
is
,
pace
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: i do like the atp forehand stroke, but some of the follow through finish is
: a bit too low. This tell me he is going for a bit more pace on those shots,
: if he can finish the shot around shoulder high, it will sacrifice some pace
: but gain more depth... depth > pace
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M******0
发帖数: 1280 | 7 Agree, that's what most of people says.
似，
【在 f*********e 的大作中提到】
: 反手不错。正手有多余的准备动作（拍头某个时刻朝前方），和Jack Sock的问题类似，
: 个人认为正手从ready position 到拍子开始加速的过程，要简洁快速.
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M******0
发帖数: 1280 | 8 About the take back, look at Nick's take back below. I think one of the
coach think the type of take back my son is doing now is ok, with many
details need to be improved.
http://youtu.be/oyY8TcvYcz0 |
b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 9 id the problem is the easy part... getting kids to change is the tough one..
.. I'll probably need to ask you for advice on this down the road... lol
【在 M******0 的大作中提到】
: Yeah, moving to an ATP forehand was the goal for the last several months.
: Then, these new problems of the ready-take back period were created. Both
: coaches knew it. The low follow through was an old problem of him.
:
: is
: ,
: pace
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M******0
发帖数: 1280 | 10 和Nick's take back 比较我认为我儿子take back 时coil 不够，是吗？
【在 M******0 的大作中提到】
: About the take back, look at Nick's take back below. I think one of the
: coach think the type of take back my son is doing now is ok, with many
: details need to be improved.
: http://youtu.be/oyY8TcvYcz0
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a*****0
发帖数: 6788 | 11
不用急。 这么大娃到几年后动作定型还有很多各种挑战大人想象力的动作出现。
要像ATP正手那样竖着拍子take back，小孩手臂力量还不够，所以表现出来像是把拍子
拖向后
【在 M******0 的大作中提到】
: Yeah, moving to an ATP forehand was the goal for the last several months.
: Then, these new problems of the ready-take back period were created. Both
: coaches knew it. The low follow through was an old problem of him.
:
: is
: ,
: pace
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M******0
发帖数: 1280 | 12 恩，我觉得你这个分析有道理。＂挑战大人想象力＂用得好，哈哈。
【在 a*****0 的大作中提到】
:
: 不用急。 这么大娃到几年后动作定型还有很多各种挑战大人想象力的动作出现。
: 要像ATP正手那样竖着拍子take back，小孩手臂力量还不够，所以表现出来像是把拍子
: 拖向后
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 13 Nick's take back is a lot cleaner, your son allowed racquet head to dip
below his wrist during the first stage of take back... result in some wave
action... this is more of an issue than coil since more coil is easier to
put add in...
my take on Nick's forehand is it is a VERY powerful forehand, it's what I
called "timed" the ball. It takes a lot practice etc. The thing with this
forehand is how you plan to shape your game. I feel this type of forehand is
better suited for player who are tall and have a powerful serve. Krygios is
a tall dude, and got a big serve... An interesting thing to watch is how
Krygios do on clay court, this may be a test for him. Gulbis used to have a
similar style of forehand. It was one of the biggest forehand on the ATP
tour back then... now he changed to "wait" for the ball style... bit ugly
but the essence is still there. Bottom line, I think either way works if you
are ok with D1 school result etc. But to compete at the top pro level, I
think you may want to weigh in on the physical and other aspects (not saying
you can't make it work, I just think it's harder).
【在 M******0 的大作中提到】
: 和Nick's take back 比较我认为我儿子take back 时coil 不够，是吗？
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M******0
发帖数: 1280 | 14 a468950 is probably right on the "clean" issue. My son's coach didn't stop
him doing Nick's type, but did emphasize on the "clean" and "quick" move to
the ready position. But he just simply couldn't do it. That made me think he
is indeed "pulling" it, and you have to have the "wave action" to pull it
easier.
Your argument about the style fit for tall guy is very legit. Because if you
are tall, you don't have to raise up your racquet to prepare for the high
ball. By laying down the racquet, you can create a bit more power. That's
actually how my son's game changes now, he feels much more power by
switching to this type of ATP forehand although it is way not good yet and
looks ugly.
is
is
a
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: Nick's take back is a lot cleaner, your son allowed racquet head to dip
: below his wrist during the first stage of take back... result in some wave
: action... this is more of an issue than coil since more coil is easier to
: put add in...
: my take on Nick's forehand is it is a VERY powerful forehand, it's what I
: called "timed" the ball. It takes a lot practice etc. The thing with this
: forehand is how you plan to shape your game. I feel this type of forehand is
: better suited for player who are tall and have a powerful serve. Krygios is
: a tall dude, and got a big serve... An interesting thing to watch is how
: Krygios do on clay court, this may be a test for him. Gulbis used to have a
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M******0
发帖数: 1280 | |
b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 16 最近我的neutral position 也慢慢改成反手，无论是volley还是底线， 有些教练推崇
这样，实际上这样让你正反手都更放松，正手并不会晚多少，试验下来我觉得挺好的。
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: 不喜欢他的“ready/neutral" position -- 他的拍子的拍头是靠左， 拍面的对着网（
: 平行）。 这对他打反手有力， 但除非他反手比正手强， 而且准备打70%反手， 30%
: 正手， 不然我认为得改。。。 可以问问他教练。
: 正手引拍也不是那么clean, 不过这和上面说的有关。
: sorry if this sounded a bit harsh....
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 17 是这样， 我认为重点在左脚能尽量align with the ball, 如果不注意这个， 我foot
work 总是差一步导致成过分的close stance...
【在 b*e 的大作中提到】
: 最近我的neutral position 也慢慢改成反手，无论是volley还是底线， 有些教练推崇
: 这样，实际上这样让你正反手都更放松，正手并不会晚多少，试验下来我觉得挺好的。
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n**u
发帖数: 768 | 18 Form was really good. I think playing some soccer could help his game.
Could also try volleyball if he does not like soccer.
【在 M******0 的大作中提到】
: 星期天俱乐部里３个state 前十的小孩在一起开小灶。老头总教练亲自出马。
: king of court, 5分赢３分算赢，赢的去右边，输的在左边。儿子比另两个弱
: 一点，但也赢了一些。练的东西在point play 里才真正体现出来。我看他许
: 多球步伐仓促，动作就变形。新赛季还有1个月就开始了，希望他再进步一下。
: http://youtu.be/_c34EVO_BhM
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M******0
发帖数: 1280 | 19 How about basketball? He really likes it and we have sent him to some camps
before.
【在 n**u 的大作中提到】
: Form was really good. I think playing some soccer could help his game.
: Could also try volleyball if he does not like soccer.
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m**U
发帖数: 968 | 20 排球和足球好像没啥关系
【在 n**u 的大作中提到】
: Form was really good. I think playing some soccer could help his game.
: Could also try volleyball if he does not like soccer.
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n**u
发帖数: 768 | 21 The footwork and ready position of Volleyball and Tennis are essentially the
same. Soccer could effectively improve physical condition and endurance at
early age (i.e. Nadal). Basketball should help too.
At all level, if you could outrun your opponent, you have a good chance to
win. For example, I would lose most games in the summer against player at
the same level, especially under the sun before 3:30 pm. But I would min
most games in the fall against player at the same level. Why? I have decent
footwork. But I do not have physical/mental endurance. I know most guys
playing soccer have amazing physical endurance.
camps
【在 M******0 的大作中提到】
: How about basketball? He really likes it and we have sent him to some camps
: before.
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j***e
发帖数: 2428 | 22 打得挺好的
【在 M******0 的大作中提到】
: 星期天俱乐部里３个state 前十的小孩在一起开小灶。老头总教练亲自出马。
: king of court, 5分赢３分算赢，赢的去右边，输的在左边。儿子比另两个弱
: 一点，但也赢了一些。练的东西在point play 里才真正体现出来。我看他许
: 多球步伐仓促，动作就变形。新赛季还有1个月就开始了，希望他再进步一下。
: http://youtu.be/_c34EVO_BhM
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M******0
发帖数: 1280 | 23 谢谢
【在 j***e 的大作中提到】
: 打得挺好的
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c*****u
发帖数: 357 | |
M******0
发帖数: 1280 | 25 8 岁拉
【在 c*****u 的大作中提到】
: 这小朋友多大啊？
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