m**k
发帖数: 18660 | 1 The ability to make a man go beyond the point at which he thinks he is going
to die.
- Franz Stampfl on what coaches need |
w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 2 absolutely true. now that I'm focusing on shorter distances, I feel that my
speed work in the past has been a
joke. In fact, I feel like I have hardly done any speed work at all, by the
standard of middle distance running.
going
【在 m**k 的大作中提到】
: The ability to make a man go beyond the point at which he thinks he is going
: to die.
: - Franz Stampfl on what coaches need
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b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 3 are you doing R pace workout now?
my
the
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: absolutely true. now that I'm focusing on shorter distances, I feel that my
: speed work in the past has been a
: joke. In fact, I feel like I have hardly done any speed work at all, by the
: standard of middle distance running.
:
: going
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w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 4 What is R pace? race pace? I'm still in a recovery period, but I feel that I
can handle harder workouts now. I
think I'll be aiming at higher heart rate and do more intense intervals. I
must say I enjoy intervals and tempo
infinitely more than easy runs.
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】
: are you doing R pace workout now?
:
: my
: the
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w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 5 I find the psychology of running rather intriguing. Last night when I was
halfway in my run, I felt that I was
pushing pretty hard, and thought of stopping at around 5 miles. But then I
measured my heart rate, and it said
170. "Only 170?" I thought, "I can certainly do better than that." And all
of a sudden, it just felt easier. It's just
so true that running is 100% mental. Most of the time, you are only limited
by your will power. |
b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 6 Yes, I am recently reading Matt Fitzgerald's "Brain Training For Runners".
Although it sounds idealism, I would now agree that running is largely about
the brain/mind.
limited
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: I find the psychology of running rather intriguing. Last night when I was
: halfway in my run, I felt that I was
: pushing pretty hard, and thought of stopping at around 5 miles. But then I
: measured my heart rate, and it said
: 170. "Only 170?" I thought, "I can certainly do better than that." And all
: of a sudden, it just felt easier. It's just
: so true that running is 100% mental. Most of the time, you are only limited
: by your will power.
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b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 7 yeah, race pace, or repetition pace, it's around mile pace or faster.
http://www.attackpoint.org/trainingpaces.jsp?vdot=50
I
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: What is R pace? race pace? I'm still in a recovery period, but I feel that I
: can handle harder workouts now. I
: think I'll be aiming at higher heart rate and do more intense intervals. I
: must say I enjoy intervals and tempo
: infinitely more than easy runs.
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w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 8 Haven't done that yet. Will try it in a few days.
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】
: yeah, race pace, or repetition pace, it's around mile pace or faster.
: http://www.attackpoint.org/trainingpaces.jsp?vdot=50
:
: I
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w********6
发帖数: 12977 | 9 yeah, 1500m, or even 10k is pretty hard, you certainly can experience gonna
die if you push hard enough |
w********6
发帖数: 12977 | 10 you guys are so young, if I read 160, I know I cannot sustain unless in a
race. I haven't push myself to see anything beyond 170 for a while, I need
to do some interval training now.
limited
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: I find the psychology of running rather intriguing. Last night when I was
: halfway in my run, I felt that I was
: pushing pretty hard, and thought of stopping at around 5 miles. But then I
: measured my heart rate, and it said
: 170. "Only 170?" I thought, "I can certainly do better than that." And all
: of a sudden, it just felt easier. It's just
: so true that running is 100% mental. Most of the time, you are only limited
: by your will power.
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c*********n
发帖数: 2120 | 11 Do you know your HR when you are young?-:)
I think you are also young!
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】
: you guys are so young, if I read 160, I know I cannot sustain unless in a
: race. I haven't push myself to see anything beyond 170 for a while, I need
: to do some interval training now.
:
: limited
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 12 Very true. so are many other sports
about
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】
: Yes, I am recently reading Matt Fitzgerald's "Brain Training For Runners".
: Although it sounds idealism, I would now agree that running is largely about
: the brain/mind.
:
: limited
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m**k
发帖数: 18660 | 13 还是人有多大胆么?hoho.
我有时候觉得 不是train hard.需要train smart!.
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: Very true. so are many other sports
:
: about
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 14 人有多大胆其实是很重要的。当然，也要尊重科学。啥事儿都有个hard limit不是。
【在 m**k 的大作中提到】
: 还是人有多大胆么?hoho.
: 我有时候觉得 不是train hard.需要train smart!.
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e*e
发帖数: 6808 | 15 Sigh, 我太胆小太容易give up了。3迈的tempo都坚持不下来。xinran mm的5k tempo
太牛了
【在 m**k 的大作中提到】
: 还是人有多大胆么?hoho.
: 我有时候觉得 不是train hard.需要train smart!.
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f*******g
发帖数: 3304 | 16 Mark, you never try to run beyond that point hehe ````
i enjoy easy running
going
【在 m**k 的大作中提到】
: The ability to make a man go beyond the point at which he thinks he is going
: to die.
: - Franz Stampfl on what coaches need
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m**k
发帖数: 18660 | 17 hehe.老大说的是。
我发现早起跑步 就是慢慢跑。特别现在风雪交加的。跑快路太滑阿。
相比。treadmill不得不push一下 。赫赫
【在 f*******g 的大作中提到】
: Mark, you never try to run beyond that point hehe ````
: i enjoy easy running
:
: going
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w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 18 To "train smart" is not in conflict with to train hard. The truth is, the
only way to get used to running fast is to
train faster. If you have trained at 7:00, 7:30 feels easy. If you have
trained at 6:00 pace, 6:30 feels easy. And
if you have trained at 5:00 pace, then 5:30 would feel easy. In the movie "
endurance", you can hear how fast
Haile Gebrselassie was breathing in his tempo run. That's how I would
breathe in a 5K race.
【在 m**k 的大作中提到】
: 还是人有多大胆么?hoho.
: 我有时候觉得 不是train hard.需要train smart!.
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w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 19 There is a video on youtube of three guys training for a 4 min mile. One of
them said, if you don't believe you
can run a 4 min mile, you never will. If it feels easy, you are not going to
do it. While I do not dream of a 4 min
mile, my goal is a 5 minute mile, and I know I would have to train short
repeats at least at 5:00 pace. Anything
slower just won't do. You are never going to run a 5 min mile if you only
train at 6:00 pace.
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: 人有多大胆其实是很重要的。当然，也要尊重科学。啥事儿都有个hard limit不是。
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