s**7 发帖数: 4 | 1 For options, GARCH is one of the method used to model historical volatility.
Does anybody know which method is used to model volatility for commodity
future? |
w*********r 发帖数: 488 | 2 GARCH不是model option的volatility,是model underlying asset of option,而且
不仅局限于此,股票的收益,inflation rate,exchange rate都可以用GARCH来
forecast他们的volatility。我觉得future作为衍生品和我上面说的东西是不一样的,
因为它的价格是通过no arbitrage pricing定出来的,future 的价格应该不是一个
random walk。
volatility.
【在 s**7 的大作中提到】 : For options, GARCH is one of the method used to model historical volatility. : Does anybody know which method is used to model volatility for commodity : future?
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s**7 发帖数: 4 | 3 Future is the derivative of underlying asset price.
For commodity, asset price is spot price.
Black-schole's stock price is assumed to be random walk.
I figure spot price should be random walk too.
option price is derived based on 'no arbitrage' too. Future price is just
not calculated from stochastic PDE. But I am sure future price, same as
option price, must have volatility.
right?
【在 w*********r 的大作中提到】 : GARCH不是model option的volatility,是model underlying asset of option,而且 : 不仅局限于此,股票的收益,inflation rate,exchange rate都可以用GARCH来 : forecast他们的volatility。我觉得future作为衍生品和我上面说的东西是不一样的, : 因为它的价格是通过no arbitrage pricing定出来的,future 的价格应该不是一个 : random walk。 : : volatility.
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C*A 发帖数: 63 | 4 future price = spot price + carry cost
since carry cost is small, future price still follows random walk if you
assume the underlying security exhibits random walk. |
w*********r 发帖数: 488 | 5 我的意思是说,future的价格不是自己随便乱动的,一旦知道它的underlying asset的
价格,future的价格就是certain的了,就不存在uncertainty了。如果定义S0为
underlying asset的spot price,F0为当期该资产future的价格,该future在T时到期
,riskfree interest rate为r的话,F0必然为,F0=S0*exp(r*T)(最简单的情形,
该资产在到期日之前不产生income,保管该资产没有cost,等等)。
可是股票的价格不是这样的,给你什么已知条件,你也算不出来股票的价格一定是多少
啊,这就是衍生品和非衍生品的区别。我的意思说衍生品是没有variance,没有
volatility的,所有说衍生品的volatility,都是指它的underlying asset的
volatility。
【在 s**7 的大作中提到】 : Future is the derivative of underlying asset price. : For commodity, asset price is spot price. : Black-schole's stock price is assumed to be random walk. : I figure spot price should be random walk too. : option price is derived based on 'no arbitrage' too. Future price is just : not calculated from stochastic PDE. But I am sure future price, same as : option price, must have volatility. : right?
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s**7 发帖数: 4 | 6 When I check Black-scholes option pricing model,
The price of the underlying instrument St follows a geometric Brownian
motion with constant drift μ and volatility σ:
Yes. volatility σ refers to unerlying asset's volatility.
Also check here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Implied_volatility#Solving_the_inverse_pricing_model_function
the implied volatility of an option contract is the volatility implied by
the market price of the option based on an option pricing model.
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