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s******y
发帖数: 28562
1
今天接到的通知,刚拿到不久的NIGMS 资金要在原来的基础上再砍掉10%。这下子可就
砍超过了25%了.这个是NIH普遍的行为么?还是我不幸的遇到了人品问题?
Continuing the procedures identified under NOT-OD-14-012 and consistent with
NIH practices during the CRs of FY 2006 – 2013, the NIH will issue non-
competing research grant awards at a level below that indicated on the most
recent Notice of Award (generally up to 90% of the previously committed
level).
A******y
发帖数: 2041
2
How much did you get last year or you didn't get cut last year? The funding
level for most grant is at 180k-190k for NIGMS last year. If you got
higher, it means you didn't get cut last year.
s******y
发帖数: 28562
3
I only got 190K from NIGMS in last year. And now are they going to cut
another 10% off this amount?

funding

【在 A******y 的大作中提到】
: How much did you get last year or you didn't get cut last year? The funding
: level for most grant is at 180k-190k for NIGMS last year. If you got
: higher, it means you didn't get cut last year.

A******y
发帖数: 2041
4
Don't know. If they do, I'm going nuts...I cannot do research without
supply money. Let's hope NCI doesn't do it. Is the email specific to your
grant? Other than annual report due next month for me, I haven't receive
any other email from NIH.

【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: I only got 190K from NIGMS in last year. And now are they going to cut
: another 10% off this amount?
:
: funding

s******y
发帖数: 28562
5
是一个群发的信件,应该不是针对我的吧。
我的progress report 都还没有交呢,应该不是因为对我不满意的原因。

your

【在 A******y 的大作中提到】
: Don't know. If they do, I'm going nuts...I cannot do research without
: supply money. Let's hope NCI doesn't do it. Is the email specific to your
: grant? Other than annual report due next month for me, I haven't receive
: any other email from NIH.

f*******h
发帖数: 1269
6
http://news.sciencemag.org/funding/2014/01/u.s.-science-agencie

【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: 今天接到的通知,刚拿到不久的NIGMS 资金要在原来的基础上再砍掉10%。这下子可就
: 砍超过了25%了.这个是NIH普遍的行为么?还是我不幸的遇到了人品问题?
: Continuing the procedures identified under NOT-OD-14-012 and consistent with
: NIH practices during the CRs of FY 2006 – 2013, the NIH will issue non-
: competing research grant awards at a level below that indicated on the most
: recent Notice of Award (generally up to 90% of the previously committed
: level).

l********n
发帖数: 62
7
不用担心和多想。这是NIH正常的削减,我的NIH项目近几年每年都减10%-20%,我同事
的课题也一样。提醒我们在申请标书时尽量在可能的范围内多做些预算。据说今年和明
年NIH的经费情况有所好转。

with
most

【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: 今天接到的通知,刚拿到不久的NIGMS 资金要在原来的基础上再砍掉10%。这下子可就
: 砍超过了25%了.这个是NIH普遍的行为么?还是我不幸的遇到了人品问题?
: Continuing the procedures identified under NOT-OD-14-012 and consistent with
: NIH practices during the CRs of FY 2006 – 2013, the NIH will issue non-
: competing research grant awards at a level below that indicated on the most
: recent Notice of Award (generally up to 90% of the previously committed
: level).

A******y
发帖数: 2041
8
What are you talking about? Most NIH funds are modular budget at 250k. You
don't get to go over. I know several big bull try to do non-modular budget
, all of their grants got revised down and literally were told either take
the cut or go away. Some of the old NIH grants got cut because everyone got
cut, but I have seen people with the same budget year over year.
The progress report don't even let me enter a new budget to ask for more
money.

【在 l********n 的大作中提到】
: 不用担心和多想。这是NIH正常的削减,我的NIH项目近几年每年都减10%-20%,我同事
: 的课题也一样。提醒我们在申请标书时尽量在可能的范围内多做些预算。据说今年和明
: 年NIH的经费情况有所好转。
:
: with
: most

l********n
发帖数: 62
9
I am talking about "我们在申请标书时尽量在可能的范围内多做些预算". If your
budget is modular, try to reach the limit (250K) with sound justifications.
Do you know that the majority of R01s and center grants are not modular?

You
budget
got

【在 A******y 的大作中提到】
: What are you talking about? Most NIH funds are modular budget at 250k. You
: don't get to go over. I know several big bull try to do non-modular budget
: , all of their grants got revised down and literally were told either take
: the cut or go away. Some of the old NIH grants got cut because everyone got
: cut, but I have seen people with the same budget year over year.
: The progress report don't even let me enter a new budget to ask for more
: money.

A******y
发帖数: 2041
10
Majority of R01 is not modular? Are you sure about that? If that's true, I
will try a non-modular budget. However, last time I tried, my grant
officer told me not to do it. In addition, last person that did non-modular
budget who I know (a chairperson pretty big-bull), the NIH literally told
the person to cut one of the aims, and NIH will fund the grant at modular
budget level.
I know large project grant is not modular but the budget justification is
very specific. I was on one. I also know a P grant from Harvard got cut
from 1.5 million to 300k.

.

【在 l********n 的大作中提到】
: I am talking about "我们在申请标书时尽量在可能的范围内多做些预算". If your
: budget is modular, try to reach the limit (250K) with sound justifications.
: Do you know that the majority of R01s and center grants are not modular?
:
: You
: budget
: got

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s******y
发帖数: 28562
11
我猜他可能说的是那种RFA 的R01 grant? 或者那些什么U01, P01?
我们平常见的这种non-solicited, self-initiated 的R01 grant, 的确是没有啥原因
就不能乱要钱的,连做老鼠的人,一般也就是乖乖的要个modular。除非要做人或者做
猴子的,才敢小心翼翼的多要一点。不过,我以前好像听说过一个说法是我们这种self
-initiated 的R01 grant其实不是NIH支出的大头。所以可能他说“大部分grant 不用
modular budget”可能是指那些其他grant吧?但是在我的印象中那些“其他grant”一
般都有比较浓厚的政治意味,不是我们一般人够得着的。

I
modular

【在 A******y 的大作中提到】
: Majority of R01 is not modular? Are you sure about that? If that's true, I
: will try a non-modular budget. However, last time I tried, my grant
: officer told me not to do it. In addition, last person that did non-modular
: budget who I know (a chairperson pretty big-bull), the NIH literally told
: the person to cut one of the aims, and NIH will fund the grant at modular
: budget level.
: I know large project grant is not modular but the budget justification is
: very specific. I was on one. I also know a P grant from Harvard got cut
: from 1.5 million to 300k.
:

l********n
发帖数: 62
12
If the direct cost equals less than $250,000 PER BUDGET YEAR, the modular
budget is used regardless the funding mechanism. In other words, if the
direct cost is more than $250,000 for any budget year, a detailed budget (
non-modular) is used. That is reason a detailed budget (non-modular) is used
in the majority of R01 applications for most population-based studies (not
lab-based studies). Most population-based studies incur more budgets than
the lab-based ones. Please see the flowchart on this NIH web: http://grants.nih.gov/grants/developing_budget.htm
Therefore, the use of modular budget is determined by whether or not your
budget is less than $250,000 for ANY budget year.

I
modular

【在 A******y 的大作中提到】
: Majority of R01 is not modular? Are you sure about that? If that's true, I
: will try a non-modular budget. However, last time I tried, my grant
: officer told me not to do it. In addition, last person that did non-modular
: budget who I know (a chairperson pretty big-bull), the NIH literally told
: the person to cut one of the aims, and NIH will fund the grant at modular
: budget level.
: I know large project grant is not modular but the budget justification is
: very specific. I was on one. I also know a P grant from Harvard got cut
: from 1.5 million to 300k.
:

f*******7
发帖数: 1019
13
现在是年中,congress还没通过final budget (still under CR), 所以对
noncompetitive renewal NIGMS一般cut 10%. 等到budget通过了好像会restore一些。
我印象中前几年都是先cut 10% (fund 90%), 等到budget通过了再restore到99%, 相当
于1%的cut.

with
most

【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: 今天接到的通知,刚拿到不久的NIGMS 资金要在原来的基础上再砍掉10%。这下子可就
: 砍超过了25%了.这个是NIH普遍的行为么?还是我不幸的遇到了人品问题?
: Continuing the procedures identified under NOT-OD-14-012 and consistent with
: NIH practices during the CRs of FY 2006 – 2013, the NIH will issue non-
: competing research grant awards at a level below that indicated on the most
: recent Notice of Award (generally up to 90% of the previously committed
: level).

s******y
发帖数: 28562
14
听你这么讲我心里稍微好受了一点点。不然本来已经砍了24%,现在又接着砍10%,不让
人活了,这是。

【在 f*******7 的大作中提到】
: 现在是年中,congress还没通过final budget (still under CR), 所以对
: noncompetitive renewal NIGMS一般cut 10%. 等到budget通过了好像会restore一些。
: 我印象中前几年都是先cut 10% (fund 90%), 等到budget通过了再restore到99%, 相当
: 于1%的cut.
:
: with
: most

b*****d
发帖数: 61690
15
已经通过了.

【在 f*******7 的大作中提到】
: 现在是年中,congress还没通过final budget (still under CR), 所以对
: noncompetitive renewal NIGMS一般cut 10%. 等到budget通过了好像会restore一些。
: 我印象中前几年都是先cut 10% (fund 90%), 等到budget通过了再restore到99%, 相当
: 于1%的cut.
:
: with
: most

f*******7
发帖数: 1019
16
Obama三天前才sign的bill, NIH还没那么快update他们的funding policy.

【在 b*****d 的大作中提到】
: 已经通过了.
l***s
发帖数: 841
17
Bingo. NIGMS几乎每年都分两次给钱。 不过第二次经常只给回来5-6%。这样总体来说
每年还有cut 3-5%,最后就变成只有10几万了。

【在 f*******7 的大作中提到】
: 现在是年中,congress还没通过final budget (still under CR), 所以对
: noncompetitive renewal NIGMS一般cut 10%. 等到budget通过了好像会restore一些。
: 我印象中前几年都是先cut 10% (fund 90%), 等到budget通过了再restore到99%, 相当
: 于1%的cut.
:
: with
: most

f*******7
发帖数: 1019
18
是啊,request一个250K的modular, 砍到最后一年只剩下17-8万了

【在 l***s 的大作中提到】
: Bingo. NIGMS几乎每年都分两次给钱。 不过第二次经常只给回来5-6%。这样总体来说
: 每年还有cut 3-5%,最后就变成只有10几万了。

l********o
发帖数: 5629
19
砍的好,你们这些整天灌水灌垃圾论文,就是要让你们不要装逼了。
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