t*****6
发帖数: 75 | 1 都吃多了，不要再讨论什么造假的了，多聊点技术问题吧。 |
w********h
发帖数: 12367 | 2 呵呵，做生物的人我看是闲得慌，又幼稚（好听点是有盲目的激情），
估计平时除专业外的杂志是不怎么看的，
美国那些名人如果都有这样脆弱的小心灵，啥媒体都不敢看了。
【在 t*****6 的大作中提到】
: 都吃多了，不要再讨论什么造假的了，多聊点技术问题吧。
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g********0
发帖数: 6201 | 3 在一个潮湿的地下室里.一个双眉紧锁的青年，手里拿着干涩的面包，聚精会神地看着
桌子上世界地图，他深深地陷入了沉思：国家下一步的发展策略是什么？国际形式会怎
样发展？怎样处理好国际关系？如何对美军、台湾全面作战，一个个难题他需要思索，
需要抉择。正在这时，外面响起了剧烈的砸门声，一个声音高叫着：“都他妈把门打开
，不然踹门了，把身份证暂住证都准备好。”他含泪默不出声…..一会儿外面的人走远
了，强大的信念再次站了起来，他迅速调整好了情绪，满怀激情地进入了下一番思考。 |
y******8
发帖数: 1764 | 4 It is not about Ye. It is about us, Chinese scientists.
Nature showed a potential bias against all Chinese, including all Chinese
scientists.
【在 w********h 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，做生物的人我看是闲得慌，又幼稚（好听点是有盲目的激情），
: 估计平时除专业外的杂志是不怎么看的，
: 美国那些名人如果都有这样脆弱的小心灵，啥媒体都不敢看了。
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g********0
发帖数: 6201 | 5 So what? Think about the most recent examples Fu Jin and Lu Jun and tons of
other examples we know and we do not know. It is not bias, it is truth.
【在 y******8 的大作中提到】
: It is not about Ye. It is about us, Chinese scientists.
: Nature showed a potential bias against all Chinese, including all Chinese
: scientists.
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y***i
发帖数: 11639 | 6 要是没有前人“闲得慌，又幼稚（好听点是有盲目的激情）”，你现在来美国也就是
当猪仔的身份，呵呵呵。
【在 w********h 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，做生物的人我看是闲得慌，又幼稚（好听点是有盲目的激情），
: 估计平时除专业外的杂志是不怎么看的，
: 美国那些名人如果都有这样脆弱的小心灵，啥媒体都不敢看了。
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w********h
发帖数: 12367 | 7 I didn't see that.
Is there any drug for scientists to take to win Nobel prize? hoho
【在 y******8 的大作中提到】
: It is not about Ye. It is about us, Chinese scientists.
: Nature showed a potential bias against all Chinese, including all Chinese
: scientists.
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y******8
发帖数: 1764 | 8 Keep your own judgement.
of
【在 g********0 的大作中提到】
: So what? Think about the most recent examples Fu Jin and Lu Jun and tons of
: other examples we know and we do not know. It is not bias, it is truth.
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w********h
发帖数: 12367 | 9 if you cannot tell the difference, I do not want to argue with you.
【在 y***i 的大作中提到】
: 要是没有前人“闲得慌，又幼稚（好听点是有盲目的激情）”，你现在来美国也就是
: 当猪仔的身份，呵呵呵。
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y******8
发帖数: 1764 | 10 There might be some "drugs" to disqualify Chinese for Noble prize.
Especially, those Nobel committee members might just read News from Nature.
【在 w********h 的大作中提到】
: I didn't see that.
: Is there any drug for scientists to take to win Nobel prize? hoho
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b**********D
发帖数: 145 | 11 别人做什么干你p事儿
【在 w********h 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，做生物的人我看是闲得慌，又幼稚（好听点是有盲目的激情），
: 估计平时除专业外的杂志是不怎么看的，
: 美国那些名人如果都有这样脆弱的小心灵，啥媒体都不敢看了。
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w********h
发帖数: 12367 | 12 you think too much...
you need to read more...even if you only read Nature, you need to read more
about Nature news...any country, any person, can be negative or positive
there...in fact, on average, it is rather neutral...
【在 y******8 的大作中提到】
: There might be some "drugs" to disqualify Chinese for Noble prize.
: Especially, those Nobel committee members might just read News from Nature.
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w********h
发帖数: 12367 | 13 I make comments, that's none of your business either...
go brush your teeth...
【在 b**********D 的大作中提到】
: 别人做什么干你p事儿
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y******8
发帖数: 1764 | 14 I did not think too much.
That piece of Nature news made me uncomfortable. It is that simple.
more
【在 w********h 的大作中提到】
: you think too much...
: you need to read more...even if you only read Nature, you need to read more
: about Nature news...any country, any person, can be negative or positive
: there...in fact, on average, it is rather neutral...
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w********h
发帖数: 12367 | 15 raise your bar of being tough.
otherwise, you may feel unconfortable everywhere...
【在 y******8 的大作中提到】
: I did not think too much.
: That piece of Nature news made me uncomfortable. It is that simple.
:
: more
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y***i
发帖数: 11639 | 16 要是你只看得到difference，看不到他本质上相同的地方 ----- 相同的问题，相同的
解决的方向，相同的需要有愿意行动的人做出努力，而不是站在一边耍嘴皮子 ---- I
also do not want to argue with you，呵呵呵。
【在 w********h 的大作中提到】
: if you cannot tell the difference, I do not want to argue with you.
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b**********D
发帖数: 145 | 17 I make comments, that's none of your business either...
【在 w********h 的大作中提到】
: I make comments, that's none of your business either...
: go brush your teeth...
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y******8
发帖数: 1764 | 18 Enjoy your own relaxation.
【在 w********h 的大作中提到】
: raise your bar of being tough.
: otherwise, you may feel unconfortable everywhere...
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D*a
发帖数: 6830 | 19 你可以感到舒服，别人也可以感到不舒服，为啥非要跟你的感受看齐？
【在 w********h 的大作中提到】
: raise your bar of being tough.
: otherwise, you may feel unconfortable everywhere...
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w********h
发帖数: 12367 | 20 last night I read Time and found some articles and columns about those two
presidential candidates are pretty harsh. for myself, I time to time receive
some nonsense comments from paper/proposal reviewers. years ago, when I was
a postdoc working under a famous and powerful person, I still received one
reviewer' comment like "these medical experts apparently do not know...."
what are you going to do? we have to be tough and let facts speak.
【在 y******8 的大作中提到】
: Enjoy your own relaxation.
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w********h
发帖数: 12367 | 21 so I gave advice.
【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 你可以感到舒服，别人也可以感到不舒服，为啥非要跟你的感受看齐？
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y******8
发帖数: 1764 | 22 I cannot appreciate your comparison between celebrities and average people,
like most of MITBBSers.
True though. You might overlook many unfair anonymous comments or just from
your mentored PhD students. But if the president of ACS singled out all
Chinese chemists for suspected cheating, you might not be able to keep your
cool. Even though that president might not directly evaluate your promotion
or grants.
receive
was
one
【在 w********h 的大作中提到】
: last night I read Time and found some articles and columns about those two
: presidential candidates are pretty harsh. for myself, I time to time receive
: some nonsense comments from paper/proposal reviewers. years ago, when I was
: a postdoc working under a famous and powerful person, I still received one
: reviewer' comment like "these medical experts apparently do not know...."
: what are you going to do? we have to be tough and let facts speak.
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w********h
发帖数: 12367 | 23 I will NOT endorse anybody, no matter he/she is an athlete or a scientist,
American or Chinese. I am simply not responsible for that.
,
from
your
promotion
【在 y******8 的大作中提到】
: I cannot appreciate your comparison between celebrities and average people,
: like most of MITBBSers.
: True though. You might overlook many unfair anonymous comments or just from
: your mentored PhD students. But if the president of ACS singled out all
: Chinese chemists for suspected cheating, you might not be able to keep your
: cool. Even though that president might not directly evaluate your promotion
: or grants.
:
: receive
: was
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y******8
发帖数: 1764 | 24 You might feel that it is not about yourself. Perfectly fine with me.
【在 w********h 的大作中提到】
: I will NOT endorse anybody, no matter he/she is an athlete or a scientist,
: American or Chinese. I am simply not responsible for that.
:
: ,
: from
: your
: promotion
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w********h
发帖数: 12367 | 25 what IF Ye Shiwen is eventually found doped? of course I said big IF.
you and other angry anonymous commenters can pretend nothing happened.
Rao Yi at least may feel his face is slapped.
【在 y******8 的大作中提到】
: You might feel that it is not about yourself. Perfectly fine with me.
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y******8
发帖数: 1764 | 26 You thought too much, this time.
First of all, this piece of Nature News is a garbage, which however might
reflect the mentality of Nature's editorial team. I think this is exactly
what I want to protest.
Second, even Carl Lewis openly admitted doping. It seems nobody cares
anymore.
Third, Ye is a victim, anyway. To some extent, we fight for our own
interests, but took the advantage of her name.
Again, you can put yours thoughts on this BBS whenever it is not down.
I am not, and will be not shame of what I thought or did, no matter what the
consequence is. Because I am doing for my own good.
【在 w********h 的大作中提到】
: what IF Ye Shiwen is eventually found doped? of course I said big IF.
: you and other angry anonymous commenters can pretend nothing happened.
: Rao Yi at least may feel his face is slapped.
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y***i
发帖数: 11639 | 27 看来Nature的心灵更脆弱 :)
【在 w********h 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，做生物的人我看是闲得慌，又幼稚（好听点是有盲目的激情），
: 估计平时除专业外的杂志是不怎么看的，
: 美国那些名人如果都有这样脆弱的小心灵，啥媒体都不敢看了。
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w********h
发帖数: 12367 | 28 no, I am not against a commentary like Jiang Lai's.
That's the normal procedure we should proceed.
however, I do not think it is a big fuss at all or Nature really apologized
for what many commenters and people here perceived.
【在 y***i 的大作中提到】
: 看来Nature的心灵更脆弱 :)
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y***i
发帖数: 11639 | 29 呵呵呵，如果真是你说的那么一件小事，Nature根本不会道歉。而且是方方面面的道
歉。http://www.mitbbs.com/article0/Biology/31712541_0.html
你以为Nature是光人嚷嚷就会屈服？
光Nature道歉这一个事实，你就该反省一下你对这件事的看法是否准确了。
apologized
【在 w********h 的大作中提到】
: no, I am not against a commentary like Jiang Lai's.
: That's the normal procedure we should proceed.
: however, I do not think it is a big fuss at all or Nature really apologized
: for what many commenters and people here perceived.
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l**********1
发帖数: 5204 | 30 哈佛副博士 胡适 曰 少谈些主义 多研究些问题
LZ mitbbs bio/medi 胡适?
【在 t*****6 的大作中提到】
: 都吃多了，不要再讨论什么造假的了，多聊点技术问题吧。
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g********0
发帖数: 6201 | 31 我猜LZ是想表达秀才造反，十年不成的意思。还不如专心养养老鼠，写写屁婆，赶紧找
机会报效祖国封妻荫子是正经。
【在 l**********1 的大作中提到】
: 哈佛副博士 胡适 曰 少谈些主义 多研究些问题
: LZ mitbbs bio/medi 胡适?
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