w***r
发帖数: 709 | 1 List of PIs left IMCB (or being closed)in the past two years.
Mingjie Cai
Jianlin Fu
Jinrong Peng
Zilong Wen
Benjamin Li
Zhicheng Xiao
Victor Yu
Xinmin Cao
YunJin Jiang
Dingxiang Liu
Daoxing Xie |
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p******n
发帖数: 55 | 2 注意关键的一句：
Tsinghua plans to recruit 110-130 independent PIs in biomedical sciences
within the next 5-10 years.
北美wsn们又有希望了。 |
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n********k
发帖数: 2818 | 3 some of ur assumptions are clearly wrong too...there are tons of jerkass but
famous PIs outhere...lots of
them...I think a fair minded and supportive is a most important factor, nice
or not, who cares.... |
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n********k
发帖数: 2818 | 4 absolutely: Fair is so critical...I don't really see many of the Chinese
PIs (most of them are pushy but reasonable) here are that bad(maybe I am not
in their lab or I am a bit on the workholic side) but one, because I hear
something really nasty with authorship...but there are so many known great
assholes whose lab so many fight to get in...such as the two so famous Nobel
in NYC:))), I heard from many saying they always put at least two Postdoc
on a same questions and whoever wins out...there |
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a****d
发帖数: 1919 | 5 to summarize: for students and postdocs, work for yourself and earn the
credit by yourself; for PIs, being supportive and strict on scientific
research. |
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w**********9
发帖数: 242 | 6 my experience is
Ignore the PIs. Do what you like to do. You work for your life. Since they
care NO for your life, why you should care them.
When I got into a lab, the PI talks to me about the project: work on the Ass
. I did on brain alone. |
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H****N
发帖数: 997 | 7 I have to say this case is not an exception. Many bio PhDs these days,
particularly those trained in China, are not well prepared for independent
research. Other than being able to perform experiments as told, they are not
capable of thinking independently and designing their own experiments. This
may work for some PIs who want to dictate everything, but can be very
frustrating for others. An ideal situation is that the PI and the postdocs
can have routine intellectual dialogues. It is a dilemma |
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l*******d
发帖数: 101 | 8 I think it was really nice of you to track down Rong's former supervisor and
check on the salary arrangement.
But, excuse me, this seems a bit hypocrite to me. You realized that Rong's
former supervisor had treated him
unfairly. You also knew that Rong would not be a star postdoc welcomed by
many PIs. Therefore, Rong was
desperately in need of help. But you decided that your helping him would
mean sacrifice on your part, and
that someone else should do the job.
Have you considered the poss |
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n********k
发帖数: 2818 | 9 not really, background sometimes could make up a lot if you are not thinking
to switch research area...u just
need to find ur niche...When I was applying, I didn't get any positive
response from any top labs outside my
PhD background...but within the closely related areas, I have several
positive responses...Finally, if you have
no choice, go with junior PIs of high potentials...many are not that bad as
many here thinks...but u just need to
be prepared to work hard and fight for ur own career... |
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n********k
发帖数: 2818 | 10 a couple of PIs already spoke, maybe u don't know them |
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o****3
发帖数: 5100 | 11 It is not about science for most PIs.
I just can't tolerate people here talking about that if students don't work
70 hours, can't take the bully then it is stuent's fault== NO LOVE of
SCIENCE.
If you do love science, do what you like. Then don't worry about your
funding. Don't you write a lot of crap and write what most people think in
this field? You are not a genius, you just extend most other people's work.
I don't think your true invention will be granted.
And it is PI's job to develop stude |
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K******S
发帖数: 10109 | 12 that's why most chinese PIs ask ppl in the lab to speak English. But it's
considered WS anyway. hehe
语。 |
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p****l
发帖数: 291 | 13 Do you think that Rudensky is a good choice?
There are several chinese PIs coming from Flavell's lab, and their works are
interesting.
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L*****C
发帖数: 157 | 14 I just received 3 copies of this book called "Making the Right Moves: A
Practical Guide to Scientific Management for Postdocs and New Faculty,
second edition".
You can request a free copy at this address:
http://www.hhmi.org/resources/labmanagement/order/main
In this book, it criticizes some PIs who stipulate work hours for lab
members. It is a great read for a lot of people.
Enjoy! |
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K******S
发帖数: 10109 | 15 To be honest, most PIs just want to find someone that can work in the lab.
So skill set is important. Although published articles can prove one has
that particular skills, one can still sell him/herself during phone/onsite
interview and try to convince the future boss that s/he can do the job. |
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t******t
发帖数: 1123 | 16 You can ask some guys on this board to write for you. Some of them are also
PIs. |
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h*****g
发帖数: 1327 | 17
I agree with you. I once worked in three labs. The first two PIs are really tough. What everyone need in their scientific training is a good mentor but not a boss. This PI was benefited from a Chinese PI before he received RO1 award. His only postdoc was also a Chinese and got a faculty position. He think most of Chinese here are smart and hard working and this is why he prefer to hire Chinese. That doesn't mean he like to push the guy in his lab. Actually he is so nice and smart. I really like |
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l*********s
发帖数: 5409 | 18 It is understandable some times people need to vent out some frustration
about PIs so they will not become mad. Nobody wants a second Mr.Lu Gang,
right?
It is also understandable why some chemistry APs brag about their power over
their students' lives. There is little else they could brag about. :-)
to
s |
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n********k
发帖数: 2818 | 19 who said this?----coask:)))...nonetheless, it is the mindset of many
including many PIs and reviewers...I could
RT-PCR out many so-called differentiated/non expressed genes in my cells...I
don't think it is a big deal but
some think it is wrong/not pretty:))...but the reality is PCR is sensitive,
if the primers/PCR are very effective,
you probably can get a band with anything:)). theoretically a single copy of
mRNA shall be able to produce a
band, that could be even produced by a chromatin breat |
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l*********s
发帖数: 5409 | 20 Common courtesy and common sense. Fetus has a much lower radiation limit
than adults, according to NRC stipulation PIs have to sign each year. Accidents do happen and this is not something one shall take chances.
Plus, being competent is not a good reason for unfair dealing. Her boss
could ask for her favor to guide or assist the students, but not to take
over their works completely.
Probably her boss is a Chinese AP. |
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P****d
发帖数: 564 | 21 Where can we find out what per centage of the NIH extramural funding goes
into the stipend of postdocs and grad students, or more generally, salaries
of non-PIs? |
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L*1
发帖数: 11537 | 22 This is a difficult problem. If everyone gets paid based on urrent NIH
stipend standard, I think that most people would be satisfied. However, if
all PIs pay post-docs on that scale, they would not be able to cover the gap
period in which the new grants is pending. Can they simply tell their post-
docs to go home and wait? Obviously not. |
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A***a
发帖数: 255 | 23 I have a friend got offers from both labs.Any people knows these two guys?
Thanks! |
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p*****s
发帖数: 33 | 24 I had collaborations with both Sam and Rusty (Fred Gage) when I was a
postdoc. They are both super nice. One needs to be quite independent
though. They are not pushy at all so if the postdoc doesn't have motivation
and get lazy, it is easy for someone to become too comfortable to leave. |
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m*****n
发帖数: 14 | 25 Fred Gage 是adult neurogensis 的牛人，我的一个朋友是他的posdoc现在在欧洲当PI
。F Gage 人很不错，另外一个人我不知道。 |
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g****s
发帖数: 62 | 26 Graduate studies (First year)
1) Do not join a lab without rotation!!! Simply take a look at how many
people on this board have problems with their mentor and probably their
careers. It is not that the PIs are always evil, but it is all about
chemistry. Also, different people are good at different experiments and
techniques. It is difficult to know whether you will fit the chemistry or
what you are good at without a trial. Rotation is a good thing and will only
help you. This is especially im |
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z*******a
发帖数: 175 | 27 大汗淋漓，爬楼真累，竟然爬了28楼
强烈建议各位大侠删去与变态PI无关之贴
累死看贴人不犯罪， 但多少有guilty吧
累半天， 所闻几位BT PIs没找到
complain一下 |
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s******y
发帖数: 28562 | 28 The labs of the Good PIs are very difficult to enter. I guess that's why
people don't care to know? |
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c**k
发帖数: 1228 | 29 make sense. current PIs are from previous postdoc; some of current postdoc
will become next generation of PI. So essentially, their behaviors should be
pretty much the same. agree that we should help each other. Double-win, AND
hexie Society.
USA
science
and |
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n****n
发帖数: 434 | 31 there are indeed mean PIs, but postdocs or students (particularly our
fellows) should also find problems of our own.
i notice that there are very strange things: some ppl work hard for non-
chinese PI without complaints, but expect a Chinese PI to be easy on them.
no hardwork no gain! |
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n****g
发帖数: 1063 | 32 Not really. In most cases, it depends on different PIs, even at NIH. |
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n****g
发帖数: 1063 | 33 I didn't challenge any idea about the sufficient resource of NIH. What I was
talking is the managing style of different PI. There are many pushing
PIs and micromanagers. The micromanagers wouldn't change their styles
because of money and locations. |
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m*****i
发帖数: 29 | 34 The idea of "pure, not including the postdoc salaries" is definitely needed
to be corrected. I am look at the breakdown of our budget. 70% of it goes to
personnel compensation, including post-doc salaries and benefits. In order
to have 1 million reagent (including animal cost) budget, the lab needs at
least 3 million total budget and 33 persons, probably 3 PIs. So the # you
are talking about is from pure outsider view. My suggestion is to find the
right lab for you, NIH labs could be much better |
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s*********y
发帖数: 387 | 35 thanks.
But, what I heard is that the salaries of the postdocs (at least
visiting fellows) is provided by the NIH directly, not from the research
funds of the PIs. May what I have heard is not completely correct.
needed
goes to
order
needs at
you
the
both
productivity. Always go to big bosses when you want to be big, wherever
you go.
CNS" somewhere on the earth? please tell me where. |
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s*********y
发帖数: 387 | 36 "If I understand correctly, postdoc
It is easy to understand postdoc salary is listed in the budget of the
institutes (NIH of course), but it will be totally different if is not
paid by the PI's research funds. The external PIs needs to pay everything
from his/her R01s, right?
": Anyone gives a more detail description of the money mechanism?"
exactly |
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h********n
发帖数: 4079 | 37 one thing you need to know is that for most of extramural research, there is
direct cost and indirect cost. PIs get direct cost and school/institute
get indirect cost. The ratio is about 1:0.9.
For example a PI at harvard get R01 of 1.5 million, harvard should get
similar money as indirect cost, part of which is used to support the whole
research in harvard and indirectly benefit the PI. |
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l*******k
发帖数: 361 | 38 He is a nice person.
By the way, he left CSHL because of some other nasty PIs-a bitch who took the position that belongs to him and a disgusting guy who is very powerful there and helped her to achieve this. |
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k******a
发帖数: 193 | 39 so many bt PIs! that is what I have found out through my bio career! |
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i*****l
发帖数: 51 | 40 do not take it so seriously. Acturally this excuse is used most frequently
by PIs to fire a person. So if one say "I am not able to continue my work in
his/her lab probably due to the funding problem", every knows what it means
. It is just a good way to answer some questions. |
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C***l
发帖数: 2625 | 41 u just never get it. It is not about what you advocate. It is about your
attitude. Bashing on bad PIs, low paid, strenuous work and dark future is
normal and understandable, but doing this for more than 4 month, is not.
One has to wake up and do something meaningful for him/herself instead of
keep whining. In fact the options are not complicated at all: if you have
sufficient resource and have made up your mind to quit, just do it. If you
still like this career or you don't have all resources yo |
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e*****r
发帖数: 379 | 42 To show their legs are still elastic, and their productivity and H-index high,
Many PIs produce lots and lots of junks, or most of their publications are
junks. Some of them may be a fake, or some fakes they even may not be aware.
One big guy in California, may have more papers to be retracted...I will be more than happy to hear the news! |
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n********k
发帖数: 2818 | 43 yes and no, depends on how you look at...As far as I could think, it is more
transparent and less politcs...you control your own fate, people shouldn't
take the offer if they think they could meet the requirement within 5 ys or
a bit more...And their package is indeed better than most (if not all) of
top school in the states. and I thought their staffing is a big plus...
likely a lot better than most of top school here too( I mean for Chinese new
AP). Most of my friends/new Chinese PIs/or any AP |
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a******g
发帖数: 129 | 44 She is an outlier and was trained by two nice big guys. Then, probably, she
is totally different from many bad TW PIs I've seen.
is |
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L******e
发帖数: 679 | 45 LZ, your PI is a reasonable boss comparing to lots of PIs in USA.
If you decide to be a postdoc, do not focus on the money too much. You only
graduated half year ago. Most PI may only pay you the entry level. Stay in
Europe, The salary is higher and life is easier than Ameica.
Yes. Medical degree from China is equal to MD here in USA, officially. You
can take the board examination. The problem is: Can you find this position
with your 'MD'? . Absolutely not, he offer you the job due to your Ph. |
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w******e
发帖数: 1187 | 46 my friend told me that dfci is full of tough PIs hehe
you |
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z********i
发帖数: 610 | 47 That is because we have two PIs in the lab. Althought she works as a lab
manager, these outside the lab will never know.
Thanks for all of the replies. |
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R******E
发帖数: 159 | 48 //It is not right to have the 学生做一作
//Some PIs are SB
往明了说，我做这几年Tech就是为了top
// Well, you are using the PI, and now you are used.
//Fair
//Please do not tell that PI did not train you at all |
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R*****o
发帖数: 14902 | 49 yes, some PIs are already genius. All they need is a pair of hands. |
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n****n
发帖数: 165 | 50 Many CAS PIs in shanghai just get 20-30W p.a salary but they all look not
bad. |
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