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Biology版 - 这个fruitarian是何许人也
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老板想开人了何去何从Re: grant application
生物学的博士后怎么这么难申请呢?施一公致华人生物学家协会的一封信 zz
NIH是43K一年吗?什么样的学生博后会/值得到尊重
俺也控诉一下脯度的某位叫兽zz我一定要赞一下我的老板
找娱乐请进——刚毕业,今早收到前老板的email看到这么多人都在说老板.....
国内生物类博士后好一点的位置收入竟然也有10万年薪了,是确实吗?Should I have hired that postdoc?
不光是钱的问题。 国内博后地位也高啊,是不是博士没有文章的话,申请博士后基本等于没戏
果儿给大家拜年了faculty is just a job too
相关话题的讨论汇总
话题: fruitarian话题: 何许人也话题: do话题: decide话题: cannot
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i****f
发帖数: 979
1
RT,总是见他在网上散布劝退指南,版主不管管么?
l****u
发帖数: 529
2
其时,他说的很对,我们绝大多数人是在自欺欺人。
等到自己意识到的时候,已经晚了
f********n
发帖数: 6465
3
又不是我一个人这么想这么说,你干嘛针对我啊???
你这样想侵犯我的隐私想爆光我,总有一天,你自己的隐私会被人爆光.
而且我又不是迫害博后的教授,只是受苦学生而已,你这样针对我人肉我,
不怕自己以后受到报复和报应吗?
f********n
发帖数: 6465
4
感觉楼主是专制思想,不让人说不好.只能说要坚持,要爱科学,要为科学献身.
我说出了生活的真实,却被人打击.你是不是要让所有人都和你一样想法才行啊.
你怎么就不能面对现实呢???
(他在网上散布劝退指南,版主不管管么)
那个劝退指南不是早就有了吗?
新人不知道困惑中,我给他们入个门啊.
l****u
发帖数: 529
5
每个人在postdog做到一定程度的时候,一定要考虑自己到底想要什么
如果只是作千老的话,恐怕最后连千老的offer都拿不到
i****f
发帖数: 979
6
对不起,我绝对没有冒犯你的意思,我只是觉得如果你劝别人,可自己却貌似没什么经
验,这样的说出的话也不可信

【在 f********n 的大作中提到】
: 感觉楼主是专制思想,不让人说不好.只能说要坚持,要爱科学,要为科学献身.
: 我说出了生活的真实,却被人打击.你是不是要让所有人都和你一样想法才行啊.
: 你怎么就不能面对现实呢???
: (他在网上散布劝退指南,版主不管管么)
: 那个劝退指南不是早就有了吗?
: 新人不知道困惑中,我给他们入个门啊.

f********n
发帖数: 6465
7
没有.我只是反感把我当标题了.
我转载的很多文章,都是有经验的人些的.
虽然有的是2年前的,但是给人当入门教材,肯定是蛮适合的.
因为我转载的内容,都蛮真实,容易懂的.

【在 i****f 的大作中提到】
: 对不起,我绝对没有冒犯你的意思,我只是觉得如果你劝别人,可自己却貌似没什么经
: 验,这样的说出的话也不可信

C***l
发帖数: 2625
8
u just never get it. It is not about what you advocate. It is about your
attitude. Bashing on bad PIs, low paid, strenuous work and dark future is
normal and understandable, but doing this for more than 4 month, is not.
One has to wake up and do something meaningful for him/herself instead of
keep whining. In fact the options are not complicated at all: if you have
sufficient resource and have made up your mind to quit, just do it. If you
still like this career or you don't have all resources yo

【在 f********n 的大作中提到】
: 感觉楼主是专制思想,不让人说不好.只能说要坚持,要爱科学,要为科学献身.
: 我说出了生活的真实,却被人打击.你是不是要让所有人都和你一样想法才行啊.
: 你怎么就不能面对现实呢???
: (他在网上散布劝退指南,版主不管管么)
: 那个劝退指南不是早就有了吗?
: 新人不知道困惑中,我给他们入个门啊.

l****u
发帖数: 529
9
说句真心话,绝大部分做生物的人都是怀着崇高的理想,
但是当认识到为之奋斗的是一堆垃圾的时候,
往往已经晚了,晚了。。。。。。。。。。。。。。

cannot
people

【在 C***l 的大作中提到】
: u just never get it. It is not about what you advocate. It is about your
: attitude. Bashing on bad PIs, low paid, strenuous work and dark future is
: normal and understandable, but doing this for more than 4 month, is not.
: One has to wake up and do something meaningful for him/herself instead of
: keep whining. In fact the options are not complicated at all: if you have
: sufficient resource and have made up your mind to quit, just do it. If you
: still like this career or you don't have all resources yo

S**I
发帖数: 15689
10
朝闻道,夕死可矣;任何时候退出都不算晚。

【在 l****u 的大作中提到】
: 说句真心话,绝大部分做生物的人都是怀着崇高的理想,
: 但是当认识到为之奋斗的是一堆垃圾的时候,
: 往往已经晚了,晚了。。。。。。。。。。。。。。
:
: cannot
: people

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国内生物类博士后好一点的位置收入竟然也有10万年薪了,是确实吗?Re: grant application
不光是钱的问题。 国内博后地位也高啊,施一公致华人生物学家协会的一封信 zz
果儿给大家拜年了什么样的学生博后会/值得到尊重
进入Biology版参与讨论
l****u
发帖数: 529
11
所以,劝退是对绝大多数生物人的警醒劝告

【在 S**I 的大作中提到】
: 朝闻道,夕死可矣;任何时候退出都不算晚。
C***l
发帖数: 2625
12
Again, these are all correct. It is all about what you do after realizing
those.

【在 l****u 的大作中提到】
: 说句真心话,绝大部分做生物的人都是怀着崇高的理想,
: 但是当认识到为之奋斗的是一堆垃圾的时候,
: 往往已经晚了,晚了。。。。。。。。。。。。。。
:
: cannot
: people

l****u
发帖数: 529
13
我已经做了,然后再来发表我的观点

【在 C***l 的大作中提到】
: Again, these are all correct. It is all about what you do after realizing
: those.

e****a
发帖数: 449
14
我觉得果果很好啊 如果能再有些真人真事就更好了
我觉得现在这个情况下无理由的劝退是可以忍受的 无理由的说生物很有前途是不可容
忍的 呵呵
s******e
发帖数: 370
15
Totally agree.
And I think this kind of attitude is called "grass is always greener on the
other side of the fence" or 这山望着那山高 in Chinese.
It's a personal choice to decide one's own path. Whatever you decide, just
do it. Although I am still a postdoc and experiencing a low-productive
period, I respect and admire both those who decide to change and those who
persist. One day I may follow one path or the other, but no matter I choose,
it's gonna be my own decision, and I will not regret.
BTW, I wo

【在 C***l 的大作中提到】
: u just never get it. It is not about what you advocate. It is about your
: attitude. Bashing on bad PIs, low paid, strenuous work and dark future is
: normal and understandable, but doing this for more than 4 month, is not.
: One has to wake up and do something meaningful for him/herself instead of
: keep whining. In fact the options are not complicated at all: if you have
: sufficient resource and have made up your mind to quit, just do it. If you
: still like this career or you don't have all resources yo

h********n
发帖数: 4079
16
我觉得你和楼主说的都对.
我个人的看法是, 这个生物版除了解决研究和技术问题, 还得为大家提供有用的信息.
打个比方, 上来说老板烂但是不写名字/暗示名字的帖子没有任何意义, 因为跟大家没
关系. 但如果说了那个学校哪个系, 至少可以让看到的人不受害. 纯抱怨意义不大.

cannot
people

【在 C***l 的大作中提到】
: u just never get it. It is not about what you advocate. It is about your
: attitude. Bashing on bad PIs, low paid, strenuous work and dark future is
: normal and understandable, but doing this for more than 4 month, is not.
: One has to wake up and do something meaningful for him/herself instead of
: keep whining. In fact the options are not complicated at all: if you have
: sufficient resource and have made up your mind to quit, just do it. If you
: still like this career or you don't have all resources yo

v***a
发帖数: 1242
17
非常赞同这个!!!

cannot
people

【在 C***l 的大作中提到】
: u just never get it. It is not about what you advocate. It is about your
: attitude. Bashing on bad PIs, low paid, strenuous work and dark future is
: normal and understandable, but doing this for more than 4 month, is not.
: One has to wake up and do something meaningful for him/herself instead of
: keep whining. In fact the options are not complicated at all: if you have
: sufficient resource and have made up your mind to quit, just do it. If you
: still like this career or you don't have all resources yo

y***i
发帖数: 11639
18
Nice.

cannot
people

【在 C***l 的大作中提到】
: u just never get it. It is not about what you advocate. It is about your
: attitude. Bashing on bad PIs, low paid, strenuous work and dark future is
: normal and understandable, but doing this for more than 4 month, is not.
: One has to wake up and do something meaningful for him/herself instead of
: keep whining. In fact the options are not complicated at all: if you have
: sufficient resource and have made up your mind to quit, just do it. If you
: still like this career or you don't have all resources yo

I***a
发帖数: 13467
19
果果就是极端了点,
可能还比较年轻。
网上极端无所谓吧,
现实中别极端就好,
M****e
发帖数: 178
20
我觉得果果同学的帖子很正面积极啊,收集各方面的信息,寻找出路嘛。
很多人郁闷,就是因为想改变,却不知如何改变。换方向不是说换就换的,毕竟我们有
身份,经济各方面的限制。所以大家转行之前收集足够的信息是非常重要的。如果有人
把自己身边转行的实例写出来,或是转载其他人的,供大家参考,我觉得是很无私很有
价值的事。
y****h
发帖数: 84
21
well said. I can't agree more on this.

cannot
people

【在 C***l 的大作中提到】
: u just never get it. It is not about what you advocate. It is about your
: attitude. Bashing on bad PIs, low paid, strenuous work and dark future is
: normal and understandable, but doing this for more than 4 month, is not.
: One has to wake up and do something meaningful for him/herself instead of
: keep whining. In fact the options are not complicated at all: if you have
: sufficient resource and have made up your mind to quit, just do it. If you
: still like this career or you don't have all resources yo

f********n
发帖数: 6465
22
谢谢理解啦.
另外我是果儿,不是果果啦.

【在 M****e 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得果果同学的帖子很正面积极啊,收集各方面的信息,寻找出路嘛。
: 很多人郁闷,就是因为想改变,却不知如何改变。换方向不是说换就换的,毕竟我们有
: 身份,经济各方面的限制。所以大家转行之前收集足够的信息是非常重要的。如果有人
: 把自己身边转行的实例写出来,或是转载其他人的,供大家参考,我觉得是很无私很有
: 价值的事。

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