B*****g
发帖数: 34098 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 Working 讨论区 】
发信人: roc999 (James Bond), 信区: Working
标 题: Re: negotiate弄砸offer了吗？求祝福！
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Jun 4 20:16:08 2012, 美东)
I have never seen one. If it exists, it may not worth working for.
When call from the hiring manager, say the following things:
1. Thanks for extending me an offer.
2. That sounds attractive and I will seriously consider it.
3. Could you have the offer sent to me in writing? or at least scanned the
offer letter and email it to me? I will need to read about... 阅读全帖 |
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g****1
发帖数: 261 | 2
The only legitimate leverage for negotiation is to show another offer,
not necessary from a better school. Without that, everything else is
really marginal.
For equipments, you can make a list that you are using in the current
lab/institute. There are essential and optional ones. Most schools
encourage to share with other faculty. It's best to talk to sales rep
yourself to get a quote. The model and price change frequently and any
lists out there are pretty much obsolete. You can list mor... 阅读全帖 |
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m********l
发帖数: 98 | 3 the book only helps readers build up their awareness and then it will take
more practice of those negotiation techniques to become really good at it.
the author told his students or readers to never believe that a lecture or
book alone makes the change. nowhere in his book can you find anything like
"read my book and you'll become a negotiation expert."
many |
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n********r
发帖数: 195 | 4 【 以下文字转载自 JobHunting 讨论区 】
发信人: iatrology (sigh), 信区: JobHunting
标 题: 请教工资negotiation
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Nov 23 18:33:49 2011, 美东)
一个大公司的化学高分子的研发职位，在德州
middle eighty thousand base + $x.000 sign-on bonus.
个人已经决定去这个职位了，不过实在不了解工业界的情况。
诚心请教，这个基本工资还能negotiate么？
本人背景fresh PhD + master
欢迎任何建议意见。
非常感谢。 |
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r******8
发帖数: 23 | 5 其实所谓的讨价还价就是negotiation，这是每个人的权利，在哪找工作都少不了这个
过程，negotiation也不代表讨价还价太狠或者会为几个小条件纠缠不清甚至闹翻撕破
脸。
如果怕以后发不了paper被人笑话而放弃bargain属于个人选择。但我认为即使不
bargain以后发不了paper同样也不光彩，所以放弃bargain似乎不是一个合理的退路。
大家都知道中国有不少这样那样的问题，但其实在哪都不会那么perfect。总之还是那
句话，愿意跟学校叫板的就叫板，愿意打折的也没人拦着，都是个人选择。我们只是希
望有人能为前者提供一些好的建议。
如果前面有话说得不招人待见我愿意道歉或者被拍 @_@ |
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m*****r
发帖数: 13 | 6 其实没有太多negotiation的意义。国内政策多变，大学也是翻云覆雨。 negotiation
的再好也会变的。
要是真想回，待遇差不多就行了。关键是看你回去后能不能混出个人摸狗样。如果你真
能混，不差这点钱。前几年回国内商学院的，现在大多已赚的盆满饽满了。机遇总是与
风险并行的。尤其是对research兴趣不大的，想回还是趁早，现在也许还能分一杯羹，
太完了恐怕只能喝西北风了。
如果觉得自己还是块research的料，还是在美国先锤炼锤炼。国内诱惑太多，不适合年
轻人成长。成了腕了，什么时候回去都一样。待遇自然也不会是问题。 |
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d*******n
发帖数: 216 | 7 If two offers offer exactly the same salary, how should we negotiate on the
money part? I have two such offers, and I know I want to go to school A
though school B's offer is better in some other aspects which school A has
said explicitly non-negotiable.
I almost feel that the fact I have two offers at hand wont' help me to get a
better deal from School A.
Any suggestions? Many thanks!
usually
other |
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i*******y
发帖数: 194 | 8 【 以下文字转载自 JobHunting 讨论区 】
发信人: iatrology (sigh), 信区: JobHunting
标 题: 请教工资negotiation
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Nov 23 18:33:49 2011, 美东)
一个大公司的化学高分子的研发职位，在德州
middle eighty thousand base + $x.000 sign-on bonus.
个人已经决定去这个职位了，不过实在不了解工业界的情况。
诚心请教，这个基本工资还能negotiate么？
本人背景fresh PhD + master
欢迎任何建议意见。
非常感谢。 |
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l**n
发帖数: 60 | 9 I am a recent FNP graduate (as of last December) and went on a full job hunt
on my last semester of school. As a nurse I was making 80k a year or $38 an
hour (with shift differential for when I worked weekends or holidays). I
made it a point to interview in 16 different places as I didn't really know
what specialty I wanted to work in (and kind of still don't). I tried my
best to negotiate but people still looked at me like I was completely insane
. I'm in Florida and according to salary.com the... 阅读全帖 |
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l*********e
发帖数: 23 | 10 【 以下文字转载自 Working 讨论区 】
发信人: lovemiracle (大侠), 信区: Working
标 题: Offer negotiation求教
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Nov 9 19:52:25 2012, 美东)
1 年经验,三藩,药厂scientist
base 105k一年
标准relocation package
其中每个月另外给住房补助~$15k一年），给2年
想跟公司negociate一下，请问以下几个问题
1.能够让公司把住房补助算到base里面去么？比如base 105k->115k，然后就不要这个住
房补助了。还是这个住房补助属于relocation package里面的，所以没啥negotiate的空
间，不能算到base里面？
2.如果补助不能变到base里，base希望涨一点，还价多少比较合理？（现在人在中部学
校工作，所以工资对新工作的工资参考不大。）
求有类似经验的前辈指点 |
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发帖数: 1 | 11 拿到一个药厂offer，base salary在这个title level是在网上能查到的范围内比较高
的数字了，但还是准备negotiate一下salary。如果没有办法更高，请问大药厂都有哪
些别的benefit是negotiable的呢?
像vacation，personal days 之类的都是固定的吧？bonus target rate呢？ 感觉没什
么可以谈的，除了工资以外。。
已有1，2年工业界的工作经验。 |
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B*********r
发帖数: 62 | 12 Company made me an offer, and HH told me not to negotiate. He said this is
the max company can pay, and he is not willing to negotiate more for me.
I am not sure if I should go around the HH and talk directly to company's HR
. Seems HH already told them I will accept this offer, although I did not.
If I call HR and ask for a 5% raise, will that make me look bad or even make
them withdraw the offer?
What is the best strategy to explain my situation to the company?
Thanks all for HELP!! |
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c**********i
发帖数: 376 | 13 negotiate offer 是你的权利，不过得掂量掂量自己有没有本钱去negotiate啊 |
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n****e
发帖数: 2401 | 14 能不能negotiate难道不是完全取决于自己手里的牌吗？
你这种不叫negotiate，叫beg. |
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s*****n
发帖数: 2174 | 15 You can only negotiate effectively if both of the following are true:
1) You have a competing offer, regardless how much it pays.
2) You are prepared to decline their offer (and accept a competing offer) if
it is not raised significantly.
Many people try to negotiate without the above mentioned. Usually, the best
case is to get a symbolic raise.
offer:
am
even |
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r*****e
发帖数: 264 | 16 【 以下文字转载自 JobHunting 讨论区 】
发信人: renyige (人一个), 信区: JobHunting
标 题: 报个offer，发包子，并问一下是否应该negotiate offer
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Sep 17 13:49:03 2012, 美东)
位于Detroit的Quicken Loans，职位是Statistician，学历是PhD，base是8万，bonus
是10-25%。
问一下各位，如果给的base和现在一样，是不是应该negotiate一下呢？提多少比较好
呢？我现在的地方消费比底特律稍微高一点，好像。
谢谢版上各位一直以来的帮助！有空我放上面经。包子不多，发完为止。 |
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y***q
发帖数: 17 | 17 周二见了未来的BOSS,说了说工作情况，然后说了下工资福利～～本来想negotiate一下
，但一直没找到好的机会就作罢了。
这一两天HR还会再发邮件走最后的流程。想问问大家，我之前已经和BOSS说过，I'd
like to accept the offer. 如果我现在等HR联系我之后，再negotiate工资，是否可
以？？？非常感谢～ |
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j**n
发帖数: 13789 | 18 党内斗争都是
compromis和negotiate阿
中国人最圆滑了 |
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T*********I
发帖数: 10729 | 21 首先要有货，才能negotiate。TRUMP是有货之人。 |
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E*V
发帖数: 17544 | 22 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: yoooo (yoooo), 信区: Military
标 题: 无语，古狗denies leaving China, seeks negotiations
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Jan 17 18:47:49 2010, 美东)
By Melanie Lee Melanie Lee – 1 hr 39 mins ago
SHANGHAI (Reuters) – Google Inc enters a second week of high stakes
brinkmanship with China's government, amid speculation the firm has decided
to pull out of the world's biggest Internet market over cyber-spying
concerns.
Google, the world's most popular search engine, said last week it was
think |
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G****u
发帖数: 126 | 23 RAV4 XLE $25,500
Room for negotiation? MSRP is $28,110
It comes with
Premium Leather Package
Premium Mats
Cross Bar
Vehicle Shield Package
Vehicle Fueling
Clear BRA
TINT 2 DOOR |
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G****u
发帖数: 126 | 24 anyone has an idea? room for negotiation? |
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y*****s
发帖数: 15 | 25 【 以下文字转载自 JobHunting 讨论区 】
发信人: XLJ99 (), 信区: JobHunting
标 题: 报个亚麻low ball offer及negotiation
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Apr 7 11:03:37 2017, 美东)
在职跳槽，六年经验。
recruiter打电话说给了一个特别好的package，我问到数字后当场就说没太大兴趣，而
且明说我没有compete offer.
我想要的offer要比这个高25%。recruiter说过两天再联系我。
第二天给了最终的package:
title给了SDEIII
Base从165K要到了200K
RSU从450U要到了600U
Signon第一年195K，第二年170K
决定不去了 |
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y***1
发帖数: 787 | 26 我想转的物品:
UA 31700 miles expires at Jan. 31, 2012
单张面值:
31700 miles
可接受的价格 (required):
500 USD
negotiable
物品新旧要求:
New
邮寄方式要求:
先付款，我把UA账户密码告诉你。请自己book。
买卖双方谁承担邮寄损失(required if not code only):
付款方式说明:
Paypal
广告的有效期:
长期。
物品来源 (required for ALL cards!):
我的联系方式:
站内
或者email：
l***********[email protected]
warranty期限:
No-warrant
能否证明是合法的一手卡?(Required for All Cards!):
Yes |
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p********t
发帖数: 14 | 27 求购 UA mileage 130K. Price negotiable. |
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i*****e
发帖数: 1862 | 28 二手交易风险自负！请自行验证是否合法和一手卡！:
y
我想卖的物品:
giftcard
单张面值:
3 x $25 = $75
可接受价格(必须明码标价！):
rate 0.90, negotiable, and code will be emailed to you.
物品新旧要求:
new
邮寄方式要求:
买卖双方谁承担邮寄损失(Required if not code only):
before delivery, seller; after delivery, buyer
付款方式说明:
BOA
其他补充说明:
自用之余出售闲置卡
广告的有效期:
Till gone
物品来源(Required for All Cards!):
complete savings
我的联系方式:
mitbbs
Warranty期限:
能否证明是合法的一手卡?(Required for All Cards!):
yes |
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i**y
发帖数: 829 | 29 二手交易风险自负！请自行验证是否合法和一手卡！:
y
我想卖的物品:
giftcard
单张面值:
3 x $25 = $75
可接受价格(必须明码标价！):
rate 0.90, negotiable, and code will be emailed to you.
物品新旧要求:
new. the code is still un-sealed.
邮寄方式要求:
买卖双方谁承担邮寄损失(Required if not code only):
default
付款方式说明:
BOA, ING, capital one,
其他补充说明:
自用之余出售闲置卡
广告的有效期:
Till gone
物品来源(Required for All Cards!):
complete savings
我的联系方式:
mitbbs
Warranty期限:
n/a
能否证明是合法的一手卡?(Required for All Cards!):
yes |
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H*********R
发帖数: 17 | 30 女生找室友承租客厅 ASAP
Spacious room located in the 3rd floor of a quiet building.
Close to UCSD shuttle stop
550$ which includes EVERYTHING. Price Negotiable.
Please contact u*******[email protected] |
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c*******e
发帖数: 5818 | 31 可转UA。如有意，请PM，negotiable. |
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s*****3
发帖数: 257 | 32 我要出售的物品
marriott cet1-5 hotel （valid thru Feb 2015）
2张
每张 120（negotiable）
可BOA、Chase、amazon payment |
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c*******g
发帖数: 2356 | 33 [出售]51x ipad mini 16gb @$235/each
45white 6gray.I can't negotiable. Thanks. |
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c*******g
发帖数: 2356 | 34 [出售]51x ipad mini 16gb @$235/each
45white 6gray.I can't negotiable. Thanks. |
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c*******g
发帖数: 2356 | 35 [出售]51x ipad mini 16gb @$235/each
45white 6gray.I can't negotiable. Thanks. |
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c*******g
发帖数: 2356 | 36 [出售]51x ipad mini 16gb @$235/each
45white 6gray.I can't negotiable. Thanks. |
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c*******g
发帖数: 2356 | 37 [出售]51x ipad mini 16gb @$235/each
45white 6gray.I can't negotiable. Thanks. |
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c*******g
发帖数: 2356 | 38 [出售]51x ipad mini 16gb @$235/each
45white 6gray.I can't negotiable. Thanks. |
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c*******g
发帖数: 2356 | 39 [出售]51x ipad mini 16gb @$235/each
45white 6gray.I can't negotiable. Thanks |
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c*******g
发帖数: 2356 | 40 [出售]51x ipad mini 16gb @$235/each
45white 6gray.I can't negotiable. Thanks |
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c*******g
发帖数: 2356 | 41 [出售]51x ipad mini 16gb @$235/each
45white 6gray.I can't negotiable. Thanks |
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c*******g
发帖数: 2356 | 42 [出售]51x ipad mini 16gb @$235/each
45white 6gray.I can't negotiable. Thanks |
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c*******g
发帖数: 2356 | 43 [出售]51x ipad mini 16gb @$235/each
45white 6gray.I can't negotiable. Thanks |
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c*******g
发帖数: 2356 | 44 [出售]51x ipad mini 16gb @$235/each
45white 6gray.I can't negotiable. Thanks |
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z*******2
发帖数: 658 | 45 [出售]1X Canon pro 100+ LU 101 @ 180 negotiable
from 46075
Payment: bill pay. |
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a***r
发帖数: 981 | 48 找工作的热季，很多人都经历过，在经历，或者要经历谈判。
偶挺想做个 study 了解一下大家对 negotiation 的认识，有过什么样的经历，
将来做个总结，帮助我们更好地了解谈判，identify 自己的一些 assumptions,
common mistakes, strategies that could help, 等等. 我相信我们这个群体，
就是中国人，在国外呆过几年的，教育水平比较高的，会有很多的共性，
了解这些共性会帮助我们认识到 what to do and what not to do.
anyway, 有一点想法，但是还没有成熟的计划，挺想找几个人聊一聊的。
希望会有人有兴趣，专业职业背景不限。
有兴趣的大侠，请给我信箱留言，谢谢了哈。
拜托版主帮偶置一下顶, 留两天。thanks~~ |
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s******d
发帖数: 62 | 49 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
optom (我相信如此，因为我希望如此) 于 (Tue Aug 7 20:05:15 2007) 提到:
Anyone can share experience negotiating with schools in China?
I'm offered a position (assi/asso prof) in a very good school in China. The
offer is not in writing though, not sure whether this is common there. They
are waiting for my decision to start offical paper work. I was told most
funding there comes from government (NSF, 973.., more than 30million granted
to the institute), and not much can |
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o*******i
发帖数: 396 | 50 上周面试归来，感觉不错，大多数人都反映很positive
这周系主任发信说要打电话和我further discuss this position. 这是不是传说中的
offer negotiation？有何注意事项？
谢过先 |
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