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P****S
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找到了这个嬴了sujia和我的日本人用的那款胶皮了,原来是这个,看介绍不是正宗
anti, 而是有anti-特性的一款反胶,应该是介于正常反胶和防弧胶之间的一种,看下
面第二段,这胶皮还是颇有些怪异性的:
Reflectoid (SG) was designed for high control blocking, placement and
chopping. Reflectoid (SG) has the ability to generate spin and counter
attack previously only found in rubbers designed for attack with low control
attributes. This product is excellent for players who do not want to
sacrifice the ability to attack with spin, yet desire defensive properties.
Very soft and light, effortless bl... 阅读全帖
w****1
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来自主题: Running版 - long run in the snow(storm)
Thanks. That was a three-week crash course to ultramarathon.:) Funny how
when I tried to reach 70 mpw in the summer, I injured my knee and ended up
training in the 40-50mpw range. This time around when I had no expectation
at all, I reached 70mpw almost effortlessly -- of course, at a much slower
pace -- patience is important.:)
w*******s
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来自主题: Running版 - Boston Maratahon Real time update
The new Robert Cheruiyot. He was running effortlessly in the last mile.
Ryan Hall almost caught up Merga at the finish line. only 2 sec behind him
and finished 4th.
w****1
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来自主题: Running版 - Chrissie Wellington也很神啊
That is of course expected in any kind of endurance sports. Just like in a
marathon race what separates the top
finishers is the last few miles. Those who race to win will typically do
whatever they could to stay with the
leaders. The strongest will pull away at the end.
Also note that swimming is the shortest leg. In swimming, it takes a huge
amount of effort to swim fast, while
one could go at a decent but relaxed speed almost effortlessly. Also
drafting is allowed in ironman swimming
w********6
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来自主题: Running版 - low heart rate training
很受鼓舞。不过如果我跑 135 HR, 感觉真的 effortless, 必须故意慢下来很多
w****1
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来自主题: Running版 - 肌肉拉伤了
It is much harder to swim fast with breaststroke. It requires a lot of back
muscle stretch. Freestyle, once you
get the technique right, it is effortless to cruise for a mile.
d**c
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来自主题: Running版 - Grandmothers of ultra marathon
i met an old guy this saturday while i was trying to practise low heart rate
running and having trouble keeping my heart rate around 130. i really had
to slow down a lot to an embarrassing 11m/m pace. Then this old guy in his
sixties passed me. his running form was similar to the two ladies' in the
video. once he was about 100 meters ahead of me, i really had enough and
said to myself " screw low heart rate" and started to accelerate. the old
guy was running effortlessly and did not seem to be f
b***i
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来自主题: Running版 - 长跑新手指南(3) running economy
i saw these from Slow Burn, the author Stu Mittleman set the 1000mi run
world record in 1986. So these metaphors are more for long distance running.
They generate an effective, efficient and effortless style of movement.
- breathe low and into the ball formed by your hips and belly button
- lift your feet up just enough to let the earth pass beneath you
- move with dinosaur arms holding butterflies
- hold rose petals in the corner of your mouth (it's for relaxed control,
you are not clenching yo
w****1
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来自主题: Running版 - 30-40MPW去挑战SUB 4可能吗?
Yep.
Baiji could pull off a sprint finish effortlessly at the end of his first
marathon, which was a time trial. Wolfstar likes to exaggerate how crappy a
runner he was -- don't believe him when he said he could only run an 8-
minute mile -- I bet he could run a 6 minute mile easily.:)
For most runners, it takes at least 1-2 years of consistent training to turn
the HM race pace to FM race pace.
w****1
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来自主题: Running版 - 30-40MPW去挑战SUB 4可能吗?
Yep.
Baiji could pull off a sprint finish effortlessly at the end of his first
marathon, which was a time trial. Wolfstar likes to exaggerate how crappy a
runner he was -- don't believe him when he said he could only run an 8-
minute mile -- I bet he could run a 6 minute mile easily.:)
For most runners, it takes at least 1-2 years of consistent training to turn
the HM race pace to FM race pace.
T****a
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来自主题: Running版 - Garmin 305/310/405 准吗?
Co-ask
Definitely frustrated about my Garmin 305 now I have time to reflect.
-mile split was WAY off! Didn't pay attention to official mile marker till
mile 10, and by then I was off by 0.4 mi. Needless to say I was feeling
too good on a false calculation;
-HR read may be off too. My HR had never been this stable that it almost
seemed effortless. But I know at least I sped up and breath hard toward
the end. No HR data to match that;
-total time was off as well, I can't figure one this out. Never
w****1
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来自主题: Running版 - After Reading Born to Run
absolutely. house cats can catch (and kill) birds effortlessly.
r********r
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来自主题: Running版 - race results
他平时自己练都有sub 40了,但是比赛也不太可能快太多
我就是觉得他写的所谓6分多pace的easy run其实并不是真正的easy,他那么一个有决
心的人是不会甘心只跑effortless的easy run的。或者就是对easy的理解有偏差
b***i
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Top Ten Characteristics of Good Running Form By Rick Morris
Foot Strike Under Your Center of Gravity
Did you ever try to drive your car while pressing on both the gas and
the brakes at the same time? Probably not. If you did you would be
slowing yourself down and wasting a lot of energy. Running with your
foot strike in front of your body is the same thing. When you plant
your foot in front of your body you’re putting on the brakes with
each step you take. You’re slowing down and wasting valuabl... 阅读全帖
b***i
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Top Ten Characteristics of Good Running Form By Rick Morris
Foot Strike Under Your Center of Gravity
Did you ever try to drive your car while pressing on both the gas and
the brakes at the same time? Probably not. If you did you would be
slowing yourself down and wasting a lot of energy. Running with your
foot strike in front of your body is the same thing. When you plant
your foot in front of your body you’re putting on the brakes with
each step you take. You’re slowing down and wasting valuabl... 阅读全帖
L***0
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The mythical Hope Pass was about to get real. But before that we had to
cross meadows, swamps, and even a river. We had to walk through water 5,6
times, before the climb toward Hope Pass starts. When I hit the trail, it
became immediately obvious that this will be hiking, not running (unless you
are Kilian Jornet or Anton Krupicka, perhaps). I had hiked up 14ers in each
of the previous three weekends, and was full of confidence when it comes to
hiking. I was going up faster than everyone around ... 阅读全帖
b***i
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I think right now i can feel the difference between 10 bpm. If my HRM gets
incorrect reading, it's usually in the first 2 miles. It seldome gets
incorrect reading after warmup. Also I've been practising slow start in my
tune-up races, it certainly feels like effortless easy run.

may
b***i
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I think right now i can feel the difference between 10 bpm. If my HRM gets
incorrect reading, it's usually in the first 2 miles. It seldome gets
incorrect reading after warmup. Also I've been practising slow start in my
tune-up races, it certainly feels like effortless easy run.

may
B*******l
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来自主题: Running版 - NYCM2 Report while it is stil 2011
Each year for a day in November, we have the privilege of occupying the
roads of NYC. Drivers, motorcyclists and even our usual co-conspirators
the cyclists, all stepped aside. The road belong to us today.
It sure feels great to own the road for even a day. We zipped down the road
with millions cheering us on. These are most likely the millions that were
welcomed to the Land of the Free by the Lady in the Harbor. Bands are
playing, music is loud, people screamming words of encouragements... 阅读全帖
y****o
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来自主题: Running版 - NYCM2 Report while it is stil 2011
awesome race and report!!
thanks man and btw, i could be a much better pacer! we both realized
that we
were going faster than the goal pace but i didn't adjust it much.
otherwise
you could go sub310!
anyway, great experience running with you! that's my most effortless 15
miles
~c u next year!

the
conspirators
the
road
that
were
are
witty
we
virtually
t*******f
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来自主题: Running版 - Cross-training day 4
1h05m elliptical
15m walking on treadmill
Totally 537cal
No running.
Today waa a very nice cool day with cloudy
skies. A perfect day for outdoor running.
On the way back from the gym, saw a guy
running up the hill (I live on almost top
of a hill) effortlessly. When he got closer,
I was surprised that he was actually on
bare beet! For the steep hill, I usually
just walk up even when I am feeling strong.
The road should got lots of small stones.
I felt uncomfortable with the thin minimalist
shoe s... 阅读全帖
d******0
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lol, good start is half way to success. Well, you will get used to be
chicked before you can run fast effortlessly.
Y**s
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Don't really care about the so-called levels... Pros don't use them because
they ski differently. Recreational skier such as myself aspire to be able
to go down all different terrains comfortably and effortlessly.
We all have much to learn - again, just this:
Utah is always there, the resorts are always there. I'm pretty sure I'll go
to Utah again next season, maybe also CO, WY. Talk is unnecessary. Xyzok,
easylife, kolarz(sorry can't get your hard nickname right! lol) will be
there waiting
D**********k
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这个是两方面的事情,一方面我也希望能去utah滑雪,如果明年还有人组织我也有可能
加入。能看出来这一趟大家都很开心,我也是一个爱凑热闹的人,能体会到一群人在这
么好的雪山上一起滑的快乐。另一方面就是技术的讨论了,具体的level并不重要,但
伴随着每一个level的都是具体的技能,这就影响到我们是不是能go down all
different terrains comfortably and effortlessly了,作为滑雪爱好者这个目标我
们还是要追求的了。

because
go
Xyzok,
did
k***z
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来自主题: Ski版 - 梦想开始的地方-by luvski
agree, very effortless and elegant
c*******r
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来自主题: Ski版 - 滑完雪的三个后果
it was quite frustrating for me to learn snowboarding though. Looking at the
slopes that I used to fly down effortlessly and being helpless was quite
upsetting.
k***z
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来自主题: Ski版 - 女单花样滑冰
I like 浅田's performance better, more artistry to me, maybe because her
music is more engaging than 金妍儿?
And her jumps look so effortless
k***z
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Really nice! Looks so effortless
I think only a few people can jump like Jozef nowadays.
r********7
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来自主题: Ski版 - demoed 3 vokl 2013 skis today
Free demo day at Gunstock NH today. tried 3 volkl 2013 skis this afternoon:
RTM 77 @ 176cm sidecut 122-77-107 r=17.2m
Racetiger Speedwall @175cm GS 115/68/97 Radius: 17.5m
V-Werks @ 176cm 129-84-111
I tried on the "trigger" trail. condition is icy--one of the iciest days of
this season at Gunstock
I myself have fischer rx8 at 175cm and line prophet 100 at 179cm.
All 3 skies are so light! I cannot believe how light it is when I try them
on. All carve on icy very very well. I personally love the ... 阅读全帖
w********o
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来自主题: Ski版 - 奔一个求技术指导
呵呵,难道你以为我原创了?
这个叫 effortless ski,
W******t
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其实滑雪滑的好的人每个动作非常effortless。
当然在不得要领之前,是很辛苦的。浑身肌肉紧张,使再大的力效果也不好。最最重要
的是timing.
W******t
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其实滑雪滑的好的人每个动作非常effortless。
当然在不得要领之前,是很辛苦的。浑身肌肉紧张,使再大的力效果也不好。最最重要
的是timing.
W******t
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来自主题: Ski版 - 秘甲老弟推荐本书给你
我觉得,他滑蘑菇时的上身和滑groom道几乎一样。这妨碍更好的A/E。好多次skis飞离
了雪面。一个解释是他A/E做的不够。前几周去跳park,我体会到,在同样速度下,有
没有A,结果差别很大。没有腿的收缩,人是像上飞的,如果充分吸收,人主要是平的
飞出去。这从物理的角度非常好理解。
个人而言,如果像他这样aggressive的滑蘑菇,我宁愿练zipper走fallline路线。我更
希望练成的滑法是那种effortless可以滑很多年的滑法。
我个人的preference是比较直的上身,即便在groom道上。我一直不喜欢crouch的姿态。

sections
M********t
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来自主题: Soccer版 - 看看俺青岛足球小将
Very impressive!
He is comfortable and effortless with the ball, also, good speed and left
footed on top of that.
u****d
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来自主题: Soccer版 - 这才是我心中的足球美学
elegance and
effortless style
y****r
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来自主题: Soccer版 - 这才是我心中的足球美学
现代足球的快节奏下基本上effortless style是不可能生存的
elegance也很难,还是天下武功,为快不破啊。
e*******e
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来自主题: Soccer版 - 这才是我心中的足球美学
哈哈。体育界里对efforless的理解和文学作品的有区别。
体育界里对efforless是指动作合理规范,特别是在压力/force的情况下。这个在球类
运动尤其是网球里用得最多。很多的球被玩得出神入化=力度/长短/落点/线路都合
理而出人意料,也是efforless的一种表现,象巴萨的one touch,费得罗的单反(网球
),都是effortless的得意之作。
y****r
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来自主题: Soccer版 - 这才是我心中的足球美学
羽毛球就是一个好例子,08年林丹以势如破竹的暴力美学杀得李宗伟丢盔卸甲
04年以后羽毛球effortless的绝佳代表陶菲克一蹶不振,足以说明高手对决
还是要速度才是王道啊
g******t
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跑一百米要照着一百二十米跑,当年教练要求的
我通过几年训练百米成绩提高了一秒多,当然不可能是从11秒多开始练的
我当年踢球也是糙快猛型的,基本上意识好于脚法,速度又好于意识
现在上岁数了,不炼跑了,短距离速度还在,冲十米没问题
踢完球老外跟我打招呼:"Man, you got a BMW engine!"
冲二十米要散步五分钟才能恢复
冲三十米要双手扶膝盖喘会气才行了,四十米不予考虑
我现在踢球想追求处理球的合理性,追求effortless的感觉,现在还在找感觉
w****1
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来自主题: Swimming版 - 我录了段蛙泳和爬泳,请指教
I'll comment on your freestyle a bit. The overall impression is that you are
too uptight. Relax, slow down your movement. High elbow, relax your forearm
and wrist when your elbow is above the water. Your hip is too rigid. Drive
down the hip as you dig into the water. Extend your arm forward a little
more, and again, relax, as you reach out. At the beginning, you should not
worry about your speed at all. Try to swim as relaxed as possible, as
effortless as possible.
j*****I
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来自主题: Swimming版 - 成为游泳高手的秘密(转载)
effortless这个词好像有歧义...
e*******e
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来自主题: Swimming版 - 成为游泳高手的秘密(转载)
你可能很少看nbc的sunday night football吧?哈哈。
什么molesterate啥的都出来了。
体育的用词现在跟几年前都大不相同了。
BTW,effortless是我儿子的网球教练教我的,我说我喜欢nadal,他说federal才是他们
网球教练的至爱,因为无论正反手回球都四两博千金。我想也是。
现在我儿子的游泳俱乐部里每次联系都找个master program的老邮条领路,放中间道,
专门给孩子们做榜样。
j*****I
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来自主题: Swimming版 - 成为游泳高手的秘密(转载)
偶不是少看,是从来不看football,所以不知道啥叫effortless. 呵呵
e*******e
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来自主题: Swimming版 - 自由泳的进展
技术这个词概括了太多的信息量。我们这边的meet之前都有high school的小孩请专门
的专业教练(非high school/swimming club coach)在public pool里开小灶。这帮小
孩都是从6-7岁开始玩到16-18岁的,天天练2-3500yard, 还得练技术,
也没听谁说要退款的。
根据本人深邃的目光发现:游泳还是effortless的最好,水花少,catch入水轻,动作
连贯性好,节奏稳定,就是好的swimmer.
技术上去了,人游泳不费吹灰之力,距离就上去了。再说,为啥目标定游2。4mile?
你要参加ironman啥的比赛?那是在open water里玩的,跟泳池又不太一样。

能: 游2.4迈。教练让我先游两个来回。她水上水下,人前人后地琢磨了我半天,告诉
我两: 件事:1.他们那儿只管technique不管distance. 2.我的technique看上去8错了
,以后: 就游吧,她要是发现啥毛病了再给我提。我听了差点想退款,不过想想还是算
了。从那: 以后我每周上一次课,课后自己游3-4次。今天游了40 laps,个人最长纪录
。现在的计
m******r
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来自主题: Swimming版 - 自由泳的进展
今天开始有点渐入佳境的感觉了。晚饭后歇了一小会儿去gym,7点半下水,8点半上岸
,中间没停。今天懒得数lap,游的时候心无旁骛。游到后来有点体会到了老八成天
emphasis的effortless的境界,要不是赶着去mall接LP,应该还能再push半个小时,那
就等到下次吧。
e*******e
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来自主题: Swimming版 - 自由泳的进展
不错。游泳其实一个是effortless,另一个是grace,都是最高境界。
grace在butterfly里尤其具有表现力和震撼力。他们有时连出水刹那间呼吸的口型和手
出水一刹那间的鹰击掌型都专门练,令人难忘。不过女的练这个就麻烦一些了,上肢/
背部/腰腹力量不行
f**********9
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来自主题: Swimming版 - 自由泳的进展
My personal opinion is that no matter what your stroke looks like, the most
thing that you should care about is the efficiency. In other words, how far
you can move your body forward by each stroke. Effortless is just another
way to describe your stroke's efficiency and effectiveness.
For long distance swimming, it is similar to running in the sense that at
some point, you will reach the limit. But once you pass that limit, you are
through, and you will feel much better.
I love swimming b/c
e*******e
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来自主题: Swimming版 - 蝶泳的呼吸问题
刘子歌 swim very effortless.I was wondering who is that Liu at Lane7,
must be 刘子歌, right? She lost to schipper in this 2009 meet, but her
dynamic is very very good. I wish I can do that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWLT57JJkbM
BTW, in this video, there are still small splash right in front of her
mouth while she breath.
I just broke one of my rib during an indoor soccer game 2 weeks ago, my
feeling is not good for natural breathing yet,but I am still practicing
every day. Hopefully someday somet
e*******e
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来自主题: Swimming版 - 网球版有mm奔
网球不靠肌肉呀
federer的肌肉估计都没我厉害
nadal的肌肉跟其他体育项目比很普通呀
agassi还是伊朗移民,他爸爸连学校都挑近球场的,靠
网球讲究的是球感和effortless的击球/回球
i*********5
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【 以下文字转载自 Triathlon 俱乐部 】
发信人: ironman2015 (ironman circa 2015), 信区: Triathlon
标 题: Bigfuzzydoug’s Ten Points to Swimming
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jan 13 09:23:59 2011, 美东)
Bigfuzzydoug’s Ten Points to Swimming:
http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view
The key to swimming is reducing drag, not endurance or powering through the
water. This is not just my opinion; it is the law of physics. I’ll
explain it in a simple way: When you bike, you have to push air in front of
you ou... 阅读全帖
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