e*******e
发帖数: 1144 | 1 很多年前在国内用手动捷达学的车，学完后就一直开自动档。这个长周末下决心搞了辆
手动。。。
先报告一下车：2015 GTI SE with performance pack, lighting pkg, dynamic
chassis control (DCC) and drive assistant pkg. 最后砍到3100 off MSRP，税前不
到30k成交。。。有点小贵
开了几天，不怎么熄火了...问几个小问题。
（1） 1档换2档容易jerky？
-- 网上查了查，首先说是松离合要慢（就像1档起步一样慢），试了一下还是有点
jerky。
-- 然后又有人说换到2档后要等一会再松离合（等rpm下降到合适的区间）。这个好像
对GTI这车很有用，不过这样的话红灯起步岂不是很肉...？
还有什么其它要领，让红灯起步比较快的同时1档换2档还能smooth？
（2）downshift的必要？我开了几天了，怎么感觉基本没有downshift的需要啊。。。
-- 红灯需要停车时离合刹车一起踩，等车停了就挂1档踩着离合（或挂空档松开离合）
-- 减速过弯时也是离合刹车一起踩，挂2档踩着离合过... 阅读全帖 |
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e*******e
发帖数: 1144 | 2 很多年前在国内用手动捷达学的车，学完后就一直开自动档。这个长周末下决心搞了辆
手动。。。
先报告一下车：2015 GTI SE with performance pack, lighting pkg, dynamic
chassis control (DCC) and drive assistant pkg. 最后砍到3100 off MSRP，税前不
到30k成交。。。有点小贵
开了几天，不怎么熄火了...问几个小问题。
（1） 1档换2档容易jerky？
-- 网上查了查，首先说是松离合要慢（就像1档起步一样慢），试了一下还是有点
jerky。
-- 然后又有人说换到2档后要等一会再松离合（等rpm下降到合适的区间）。这个好像
对GTI这车很有用，不过这样的话红灯起步岂不是很肉...？
还有什么其它要领，让红灯起步比较快的同时1档换2档还能smooth？
（2）downshift的必要？我开了几天了，怎么感觉基本没有downshift的需要啊。。。
-- 红灯需要停车时离合刹车一起踩，等车停了就挂1档踩着离合（或挂空档松开离合）
-- 减速过弯时也是离合刹车一起踩，挂2档踩着离合过... 阅读全帖 |
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n**y
发帖数: 11447 | 3 那就先刹车减速
然后downshift
再过弯
downshift不平滑就练downshift，跟过不过弯没关系 |
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h****y
发帖数: 9234 | 5 可是autocross的时候有些人会在某些u型弯downshift到一档.
如果没有同步器按说就非常难downshift进去了..
不过我听到的说autocross二档到底的原因是因为downshift没必要,直道本来就短,加速
过程中还要升一下档损失时间.得不偿失.
没有听说过是没法降回一的说法的. |
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s*****8
发帖数: 606 | 6 downshift whenever you want on the street as long as you feel comfortable.
saadi(floor 18)'s theory is right, is it more apply for the high speed turn/
racetrack - during the turn, tires are using a great % of its capacity to
turn, if you downshift during the turn, it is risky that you can lock the
wheels (even 1/10th sec. lock) because of the engine rev mis-match, your car
would spin/slide (rear wheel drive). on the other hand, on the street, most
time you are only using less than 20% of tires'... 阅读全帖 |
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i****a
发帖数: 36252 | 7 Rpm matching during downshift does not mean there is no engine break. It
just provided a much smoother downshift.
this feature in a production car (auto rev-matching in 350z and G35). Try
drop two gears at 65 miles per hour and feel the torque when it blips to
6500 RPM, this car is just a rocket. And no C300 or even C350 can match that
. Also I think G37 is the largest of entry luxury cars. |
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m*******a
发帖数: 371 | 8 总结了下，请教以下几个问题：
1.踩离合换挡的时候不能踩加速是不是因为 突然松离合engage的时候，转速过快对机
械系统不好?
2.减速只要保证转速不太低即可就不用downshift，但是换低档可以保证转速较高，降
低熄火的概率.急刹车直接在高档猛踩刹车都可以，不用downshift，但是可能高档转速
降低最快，造成熄火？ |
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n***i
发帖数: 777 | 9 车在行驶中downshift到1档，这个感觉很别扭把，我downshift到2档都觉得非常别扭 |
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发帖数: 7316 | 10 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
combustion (Turb. Comubst. Man) 于 (Sun Sep 18 22:35:46 2011, 美东) 提到:
刚刚接触手动挡的车，看网上说，离合器要迅速踩下，并缓慢放开，正常行驶中不能随
便触碰离合器。但是我开车时遇到红灯，或者高速出口（出口前方有红绿灯） 就会踩
下离合器到底不松，然后放到空挡（觉得省油），让车靠惯性滑行道红灯处。请问各位
高手们， 这种操作方式合理吗？会不会很损坏离合器？谢谢各位！
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qp (zl) 于 (Sun Sep 18 22:39:08 2011, 美东) 提到:
没事，只有半离合的时候费离合器
放空挡之后，离合器抬起不就完了么
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range (range) 于 (Sun Sep 18 22:41:17 2011, 美东) 提到:
不会损坏
会废油 除非你开的是20年前... 阅读全帖 |
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i****a
发帖数: 36252 | 11 I have about 120,000 miles manual transmission experience.
starting from uphill with handbrake is not "necessary", just a good habit,
and the correct way to do a hill start.
and holding the car on a incline with half engaged clutch is going to kill
the clutch real soon.
手动车开的好的, would toe-heel downshift when breaking. Or at least
downshift as the car slows down.
下坡踩离合 is one of the worst driving habits. |
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N******t
发帖数: 90 | 12 今天刚去试驾了这三部车，趁着还没忘记，分享一下，也免得自己忘记了：
先试驾的2013 S4 S Tronic with rear sports diff:
Sports steering wheel很有手感，flat bottom, 很有赛车的感觉，而且转非90/180/
270/360弯很顺手。Sports seat过弯时很secure, 但似乎有点儿太bucket了，刚开始试
车的时候，还没放开来跑，感觉有点儿挡事儿，但一旦开始push车，aggressive过弯，
这个感觉就消失了。 这个transition在335i和C350上都没有。但也有可能是我不经常
开sports seat的车，一开始不习惯，开S4半小时习惯了，所以在335i和C350里面就再
没这个感觉了。2013 S4换成了Electric steering：parking lot speed steering很轻
，随着速度增加，steering越来越重。由于老婆的Q5也是这样的，所以我已经习惯了一
段时间，而且觉得在parking lot steering很轻是个挺好的feature。觉得不满的地方
就是：st... 阅读全帖 |
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n**f
发帖数: 1304 | 13 手册上没提能开坏离合器这事.
Manual operation and Sport program
M/S
Move selector lever from position D toward the
left into the M/S shifting slot:
The sport program is activated and DS appears
in the instrument cluster. This position is recommended
for a performance-oriented driving
style.
When you briefly press the selector lever in the
+ or – direction, the manual mode is activated
and Steptronic changes gear. The instrument
cluster shows M1 through M6.
Upshifts and downshifts are executed only
when they w... 阅读全帖 |
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a******e
发帖数: 5411 | 14 现在dealer的影响很大
dealer都是私有的，他们可以为所欲为
bmw公司很诚实，他们经常有些官方维修信息，称为 SIB, 但是，如果你不知道的话，
而且你也没有抱怨，你的dealer一般不会告诉你。有些维修是免费的，但是如果你不知
道，也许他们就收你钱
我一般都把相关的SIB打印好，直接放到service advisor 面前，他也没什么好啰嗦的。
很多开bmw的人都是一点点积累的知识，就stick to what they know best
EXAMPLE OF A SIB
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SI B 24 03 09
Automatic Transmission April 2009
Technical Service
SUBJECT
550i and 650i with N62TU and 6HP26 - Various Drivability Complaints
MODEL
E60, 550iA produced from 09/05 up to 02/07
E63, E64; 650i produced ... 阅读全帖 |
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l********7
发帖数: 1077 | 15 我开过10多年的手动车
包括国内7年的golf，但是没开过GTI
试着回答你的问题
1) 你要想不jerky只能离合提得慢点，第二，转速把握的比较好。前两个挡想开平稳其
实没那么容易，油门和离合器的配合需要长时间的练习才能做到平稳，没有太大诀窍。
2）至于downshift，我觉得你如果不跑track可能用不上，因为GTI有200多马力，基本
上处于overpower状态。我以前国内的golf只有1.6NA的引擎，是在高速上超车超不动的
时候（>110kmh)，或者和别人抢缝时才downshift
3）绝大多数时候不需要rev match，因为现代变速箱有同步器。但是如果速度降太多还
是挂不进去，必须得给油。例如，我家门口的高速出口匝道，拐弯半径非常小，每次我
入弯后要从6挡直接降到2挡或者3挡，这时候必须要给油。 |
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b**********8
发帖数: 14 | 16 The automatic transmission includes an electronically
controlled Overdrive (5th gear for 3.7L engine).
During cold temperature operation you may notice delayed
upshifts depending on engine and transmission
temperature. This feature improves the warm up time of
the engine and transmission.
If the transmission temperature gets extremely hot, the
transmission will automatically select the most desirable
gear for operation at this temperature.
In high ambient temperatures with sustained high engine... 阅读全帖 |
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X***9
发帖数: 7385 | 17
尊敬的用户您好 本田变速箱有智能grade logic control 功能的您不必担心上山或下山
When in the D mode (optimized for normal driving), the transmission
incorporates an advanced Grade Logic Control System, Shift Hold Control and
Cornering G Shift Control – all of which reduce unwanted shifting and gear
hunting. The result is smart transmission operation that optimizes fuel
efficiency and keeps the transmission in the appropriate gear for driving
conditions, generating excellent performance and smooth operation.
While ascending o... 阅读全帖 |
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b****l
发帖数: 97 | 18 zf 9at是for transversal engine的，vw MQB就可以用，mlb可以用zf 8at，比如q7。
为什么vw MQB用爱信8at不用Honda用的zf 9at我也不知道。
ZF 9AT用了dog clutch，在4<->5换挡的时候花的时间会长一些，而且感觉比较奇特，
这个是软件解决不了的。不过总体说软件上acura做的比chrysler好多了。还有一个尿
性就是这个zf 9at有3档超速挡，有人开小妾到85mph都没能进9档。gm的9at ratio分布
就正常多了。
双离合低速顿挫国内的车比较多，因为换挡逻辑设定的是省油为主，一有机会就
upshift。同理可见hyundai的那几个DCT，都是省油为主的。这种设定下面低速不可能
不jerky。跑车用的DCT不可能顿挫吧。。我没开过也没听人说过。。。
我觉得吧开多了就知道自己车变速箱的尿性，基本可以避免reluctant to downshift。
变速箱逻辑都是死的，你开多了就知道什么情况下它会downshift upshift，如果愿意
牺牲一点油耗还是可以提升平顺性的。
都用
都用 |
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x*****n
发帖数: 3422 | 19 我瞎说几个，你随便听听：
1。look ahead，这个说起来容易做起来难，据说至少要提前两个session。我最多也就
瞄瞄下一个session，还经常盯着apex不放，呵呵。这直接导致我走线不够好。
2。throttle control。我去年前半段过slalom的时候基本constant throttle，速度不
够踩深点，速度过了踩浅点。后来才意识到可以通过throttle控制车的oversteering/
understeering倾向，配合方向盘的节奏踩油门。其实course的绝大部分都能这么干，
比如clamshells。我现在还是处于东施效颦阶段，力度拿捏/时机都和高手有差距。
3。downshift，autocross降一档的机会不多，不过一旦有这种180度变态慢pivot，
downshift好不好能差半秒。很多了。
4。尽早push to the limit。我这人比较ws，经常到了下午的session才真正找到limit
，调整都来不及了，最后成绩总比理想的要差~1秒
5。硬件trick, 每个class总是有些trick的。比如stock class：brak |
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s******r
发帖数: 5309 | 20 Why China could withstand the trade war far longer than Trump thinks
A man monitors stock prices at a brokerage house in Beijing. The Shanghai
Composite Index, China’s main stocks gauge, is down 23 percent this year,
making it the world’s worst-performing major exchange. (Andy Wong/AP)
By David J. Lynch
September 13 at 9:56 PM
President Trump insisted Thursday that he was “under no pressure to make a
deal with China,” signaling a readiness to escalate his trade war with
Beijing.
“They are under ... 阅读全帖 |
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b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 21 Stories: Trump’s Tariffs Betray Base
https://terribletariffs.com/stories/
Then there are the countless farmers and exporters who have seen their
markets dry up as trading partners impose retaliatory tariffs.
'47 Brand Hats: The Massachusetts company, which faces higher raw material
costs thanks to Trump's tariffs, cannot find domestic suppliers to produce
hats. It is considering job cuts to compensate.
5th Avenue Energy: This small California renewable energy firm found that
lighting fixtures an... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 22 I almost, as the author and editor no doubt intended, missed this:
Unemployment Benefits Rise as Job Growth Falters
By: Reuters
New U.S. claims for unemployment benefits rose more than expected last
week, a government report showed on Thursday, pointing to a labor market
that is struggling to regain momentum after job growth faltered in the last
two months.
Initial claims for state unemployment benefits increased 10,000 to a
seasonally adjusted 418,000, the Labor Department said.... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 23 By SUDEEP REDDY and SCOTT THURM
U.S. companies are scaling back investment plans at the fastest pace since
the recession, signaling more trouble for the economic recovery.
U.S. companies are scaling back investment plans at the fastest pace since
the recession, signaling more trouble for the economic recovery. Sudeep
Reddy reports on Markets Hub. Photo: AP.
Half of the nation's 40 biggest publicly traded corporate spenders have
announced plans to curtail capital expenditures this year or next, a... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 24 WSJ的帖子，讲得和顶楼的一模一样，你会不会也笑了？
Venezuela’s Election Downshifts Views on Economy, Debt
By Charles Roth
We hear elections have consequences, which are usually obvious if the winner
’s mandate is strong. Venezuela’s snap election over the weekend has major
implications for the economy and the oil-rich nation’s debt, thinking on
which is changing fast.
The anointed heir of Venezuela’s defunct leader, Hugo Chavez, eked out a
wafer-thin majority of votes in Sunday’s snap presidential election, a
surprise ... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 25 U.S. Says Economy's Pace of Gains Slowed Amid Revision in Consumer Spending,
Business Investment.
By SARAH PORTLOCK
And JONATHAN HOUSE
WASHINGTON—The U.S. economy expanded at a slower pace than previously
estimated in the first quarter as consumer spending and business investment
were revised sharply downward, indicating a weaker trajectory for the
economy even before growth downshifted in recent months.
The nation's gross domestic product, the broadest measure of all goods and
services produced... 阅读全帖 |
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p****r
发帖数: 46 | 26
It could be the synchronizer for second gear is worn out. Next time try
revving up the engine before you downshift to second gear. It's always a
good practice even if you didn't have this problem. It's fun and saves
the synchro.
pepper |
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g****l
发帖数: 9 | 27 这台van买来差不多一年了。其间从portland开去vancouver三次，去SF两次。长途驾驶比
小车舒服多了。 拖过几次船，大概3000lb左右， 车里坐6个人没什么大问题 （上大坡需
要downshift)。以后考虑要买大点的船可能需要升级到truck/SUV. Maintenance去过两
次，Kia Dealer很专业，3 年所有service都是免费的。brake rotor需要校正一次， 没
有其他问题。这台van重5000多磅， 有点费油。 开长途大概22左右，市内开17-19。 买
这辆车因为有了孩子，也般进了house,需要容量大的车子来运东西。老婆最喜欢的是可以
从副驾驶位子上走到后排去照顾宝宝，呵呵。 买之前test drive 了很多其他van/suv.
我在日本欧洲住过不短的日子， 在那里开了不少当地的车， 所以对品牌/image不是很感
冒。最后还是看中了<16k的价格和乱七八糟很多的factory warranty。买了以后又开过新
的honda odyssey, handling差不多，当然honda马力更强一些，花哨功能更多些。
一年下来，看到路 |
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g****l
发帖数: 9 | 28 这台van买来差不多一年了。其间从portland开去vancouver三次，去SF两次。长途驾驶比
小车舒服多了。 拖过几次船，大概3000lb左右， 车里坐6个人没什么大问题 （上大坡需
要downshift)。以后考虑要买大点的船可能需要升级到truck/SUV. Maintenance去过两
次，Kia Dealer很专业，3 年所有service都是免费的。brake rotor需要校正一次， 没
有其他问题。这台van重5000多磅， 有点费油。 开长途大概22左右，市内开17-19。 买
这辆车因为有了孩子，也般进了house,需要容量大的车子来运东西。老婆最喜欢的是可以
从副驾驶位子上走到后排去照顾宝宝，呵呵。 买之前test drive 了很多其他van/suv.
我在日本欧洲住过不短的日子， 在那里开了不少当地的车， 所以对品牌/image不是很感
冒。最后还是看中了<16k的价格和乱七八糟很多的factory warranty。买了以后又开过新
的honda odyssey, handling差不多，当然honda马力更强一些，花哨功能更多些。
一年下来，看到路... 阅读全帖 |
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r*****g
发帖数: 9999 | 29 The Direct-Shift Gearbox (Direktschaltgetriebe) is a dual-clutch gearbox
designed by BorgWarner and initially licensed to Volkswagen Group (which
owns the Volkswagen, Audi, SEAT, Bentley, Bugatti, Lamborghini, and Š
koda brands). By using two clutches, fast shifts can be achieved, and the
torque converter of a regular automatic transmission is eliminated.
Advantages
Extreme fast up shift and downshift time of 8 milliseconds
Practically no power loss whatsoever, because of the short shift ti |
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s********y
发帖数: 769 | 30 my 2006 jetta is at around 2500rpm at 70mph (6th gear, DSG transmission)
and my 2010 jetta is at 2000rpm @ 70mph (6th gear, manual)
Since the car's max torque range is between 1600-2400 rpm
I don't even need to shift during normal passing. I only need to downshift
for fast passing to take advantage of the max horse power (4000rpm ish) |
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g****3
发帖数: 142 | 31 我也知道x3烂大街， 本来也考虑过q5的， 但很多customer report 说q5 lower gear
downshifting 的时候会jerk. glk么， 我总觉得奔驰是为四十岁以上的人打造的。 |
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g****3
发帖数: 142 | 32 I am considering Audi Q5 as well. The thing is, from the research I did
online, I've heard that their transmissions tend to jerk or lurch at lower
gears when downshifting. Basicall, it means when you go from 30miles/hr to 5
miles/hr, you may feel a noticable transmission squeak or jerk. Also, the
option for Q5 is very expensive, if you want premium plus + Sline + Nav, the
invoce price is gotta be over 45,000 and the OTD will be more than 50,000.
That said, the car itself is very nice. It drives |
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g****3
发帖数: 142 | 33 i've made the purchase.
i took out the floor mat and got $-210 on the invoice. also a free front
window tint on two front windows.
I've got 3.9% for 60months, which i think is a way too high. my credit score
is 784 from equifax. i maybe was set up on finance by the sales person.
Anyways i like the new car it drives much better than lexus. i experienced
a downshifting jerk at lower gears this morning as most of the buyers did.
hope it wont be a serious defect in the future. |
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d***y
发帖数: 408 | 34 不知道有没有人注意到，g37的手动模式有点怪。
从自动换过来的时候，只是换到sports mode， 并没有真正换到手动模式，但是仪表盘
也没有显示现在是几档。
我从高速下来的时候想用engine帮助减速，就打到sports，因为看不到档位，就
downshift，结果变成2档，转速瞬间到了4000多转。
是不是我用的不对？ 觉得这个设计不是make sense。 我的volvo换手动模式的时候
会立刻告诉你是现在换到几档。 |
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n******e
发帖数: 281 | 35 You still can if you press gas pedal lightly and let go to cancel the rev-
matching. So about 2~3 seconds delay. Then the downshifted engine will have
some breaking effect on for example a long down slope.
Otherwise I'd just brake. No need for engine brake to help. |
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d***y
发帖数: 408 | 36 从d档换到手动模式的时候，会换到当前电脑帮你选的档位。
比方说你在60迈换到手动，应该是5档，如果你要超车，可以downshift，让转速增加，
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p*****o
发帖数: 302 | 38 好多人遇到问题，福特6速变速箱还不牢靠阿
链接和摘要：
http://forums.automobilemag.com/70/7761889/ford/2010-ford-fusion-transmission/index.html
minefieldmind
New User | Posts: 1 | Joined: 01/10 Posted: 01/11/10
05:53 PM
we put 8,000 very easy miles on a 2010 fusion. very peppy, but tranny went
out.
we had to manually downshift to 3 or 4 and only go about 35-45 mph because
tranny wouldnt engage a new gear with each attemped shift either up or down.
the problem started at about 9,000 miles by slipping between gears pulli |
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h****y
发帖数: 9234 | 39 算了,看到有人说
IF you come to a stop, just put it in neutral... :)
so say when I'm coming off the interstate, should I just put it in neutral a
nd brake the whole way or downshift through all the gears? I've riden with p
eople who do both.
Do which ever one you feel most comfortable with.
看来就是个人习惯问题了.一般要停我就先空档了.懒得再从3降到2和1了...
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c******n
发帖数: 5697 | 40 美国市场上所有车子变速箱平均寿命是12万mile
Honda 1.6%的车要换变速箱
10万mile内免费换
Honda to extend warranty on some vehicles' transmissions
By Earle Eldridge, USA TODAY
Honda said Thursday that it will extend the warranty on vehicles with a
problem transmission to seven years/100,000 miles.
The company also said it will reimburse those owners who paid to have
transmissions replaced.
The moves came after angry owners swamped online forums and appealed to the
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration for a safety recall... 阅读全帖 |
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l****g
发帖数: 1922 | 41 啥也不说，直接上manual。
D (Drive)
This position is for normal driving.
The transmission automatically shifts into a suitable gear from 1st to
4th according to the vehicle speed and the acceleration you require.
When more acceleration is required in this position, press the accelerator
pedal fully to the floor and hold that position. The transmission
will automatically downshift to 3rd, 2nd or 1st gear. When you release
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l****g
发帖数: 1922 | 42 3 (Third)
This position is for using engine braking when going down a hill or for
climbing a grade.
The transmission automatically shifts into a suitable gear from 1st to
3rd according to the vehicle speed and the acceleration you require.
When more acceleration is required in this position, press the accelerator
pedal fully to the floor and hold that position. The transmission
will automatically downshift to 2nd or 1st gear. When you release the
pedal, the transmission will return to the orig... 阅读全帖 |
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j*****n
发帖数: 1781 | 43 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
dddiy (heartbeat) 于 (Thu Sep 9 19:38:16 2010, 美东) 提到:
新买的2010 infiniti G37，低速的时候自动档换档很rough，感觉像开在不平的路上，
尤其是轻踩刹车，或者脚从油门移开时特别明显。
后来上网找了一下，发现是个普遍的问题，很多人都在抱怨，good news is，
infiniti2009年的时候发布了一个TSB，可以免费解决这个问题，只需要更新一下
software。
很多人换完了以后觉得transmission silky smooth，而且耗油减少了很多。
我已经跟local dealer约了service，can't wait.
最近很多人跳了g37，如果有同样的问题，应该尽早跟dealer联系。
http://myg37.com/forums/g37-sedan/196529-g37-transmission-issues-with-4th-3rd-downshift.html
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m******o
发帖数: 200 | 44 2010 5speed, i heard there are people not loving the downshift rev
matching of 2011 |
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S****M
发帖数: 2198 | 46 I had an 09. Very fun to drive. it's not as fast as my current G35, but with
the paddle shifter it's easy to downshift and enjoy the sound of high rev
vtec engine. Plus fuel economy is really good. |
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f******r
发帖数: 924 | 47 前一段在这报告过车降档的时候有很强的顿挫感：
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t0/Automobile/32658247.html
可能有的车或多或少的有这个问题，但我这俩10的sonata实在是太强了，后来我一
google就发现有很多类似的问题，是09-10 Sonta比较典型的问题 然后发现Hyundai最
近Recall过这车，然后我就找了local Hyundai service 的Dealer刷一下电脑系统，这
个问题就解决了，后来开车很smooth，完全没有顿挫感，可能别的车也有类似的recall？
另外在这里咨询一下，这个车是在Dealer手上买的，比较新所以我也没有特别仔细的查
车，在local dealer查了下发现几个问题，Transmission fluid该换了 189USD [这个
是不是太贵？该不该再Service Dealer这里换？]，应该是以前的一个保养没做，Air
filter奇脏无比，也该换了，还有一些小的问题，杂七杂八的大概几百块。
挺不爽的刚买的应该很新的车就有这么多问题，Dealer都很坏，交钱以前一个态度交钱... 阅读全帖 |
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c*********7
发帖数: 19373 | 48 这些属于正常维护，recall是现代的问题。所以dealer不会负责。你可以到外边找个车
铺做这些维护，或DIY一些简单的，应该会便宜很多。 |
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c*******e
发帖数: 8624 | 49 transmission fluid这么贵?一半价格还马马虎虎
air filter这种东西自己换就好了,10来块的东西不值得
recall？ |
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f******r
发帖数: 924 | 50 thanks for the advices, appreciate it! :P |
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