p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 1 no. I raised on the button with 75o, and cbet on the flop of KK2 rainbow.
he called on the flop. Turn is K, go check/check. River is a J. lol. super hero check/call
with 56 on the river. |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 2 no. I raised on the button with 75o, and cbet on the flop of KK2 rainbow.
he called on the flop. Turn is K, go check/check. River is a J. lol. super hero check/call
with 56 on the river. |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 3 my image is aggressive with true hands with kinda high percentage cbet， but
loose limper with 1 or 2 bb, like most of others
bluffing is rarely to c, but ppl fighting or calling huge with good hands,
plus 2 or 3 histories that aa limping and fight to allin with no matter what
on board
here comes the hand:
hero a9s mp raises to 12
2 callers
flop: a9x rainbow
hero delay check, solid grandpa delay bet 25, one fold, hero delay call
turn: x with small back door flush draw
hero check, solid grandpa be... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 4 if you have a7s or 78s 67s, would you bet 10 and call 35 and call that flop
cbet in position? were you small blind or big blind? |
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l*****r
发帖数: 2123 | 5 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 讨论一手牌 第一 cbet 在这种flop上30就够了， 这样更加容易control pot
第二， 你的flop 4bet 160太少了， 我会re-raise到240
第三， turn我会lead out 1/2-2/3 pot
还有一种办法就是flop就check， call到river来control pot， 这个flop基本没有
draw了
现在这种局面只能根据你对他的read来判断是否call。 用500去赢1100， 我可能会
call。
blind. |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 6 这周末又去foxwoods玩了12小时的一个session，屁股没挪，桌上不时的有super donk
表演，但是全程card dead，大约一小时玩个3到4手牌，开始high cards lead/cbet总
有人raise，后我索性NIT了，因为有donk和cs舍不得换桌，好不容易aces with 5 ways
preflop shove，被tt set了，再然后哭丧着脸继续NIT，直到最后丢完几个buyin，黯
然回家。
求建议。。。。 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 7 这周末又去foxwoods玩了12小时的一个session，屁股没挪，桌上不时的有super donk
表演，但是全程card dead，大约一小时玩个3到4手牌，开始high cards lead/cbet总
有人raise，后我索性NIT了，因为有donk和cs舍不得换桌，好不容易aces with 5 ways
preflop shove，被tt set了，再然后哭丧着脸继续NIT，直到最后丢完几个buyin，黯
然回家。
求建议。。。。 |
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D*A
发帖数: 1169 | 8 并非高手，对full ring的Limit而言，感觉有如下几点：
1，需要非常耐心，NL急了可以bluff，L如果不顺可以消耗50BB也无法赢一手牌.
2, 选择起手牌，紧是王道。而且要非常Selective，JJ，AQ都很marginal
3, 起起落落，最终的收益来在于一个一个small or big bet,所以要respect每一个
bet
该fold的一个子也不能多出，该value的一点也不能放过
4，一种调整收入产出的打法是选择10％的起手牌，preflop绝不limp，要么fold，
要么raise。flop不管hit没hit都是Cbet，但遇反抗要及时撤退.
总之，L比NL更难盈利，因为无法有效捕鱼.
我上周在各路豪杰聚首LV之际，在local的一个Casino打15／30limit with kill。不知
这里有没有打limit的高手相互探讨？ |
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S*********e
发帖数: 865 | 9 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 问一手牌 一个月前在local casino玩的。 1/2，我400多chips在bb。
我左边一家刚刚输了一个大pot，还剩300多，straddle 5， 每个人都知道他要raise，
都fold了，sb call，有300多。我bb call with TcJc。左边那家和sb都还挺稳，不是
maniac。
果然左边一家raise到20. sb和我都call。
flop Jh2c5c，sb check，我check，左手 bet 50. looks a cbet。
sb reraise到100，我很纠结，sb play it like a set or A high flush draw。
遇上set我大概30%，遇到A high flush 我outs就很少了，尤其后面还有一家。
我犹豫了很久fold了。 左边instant all in， sb call。左边show KJ，右边show AJ，
都没有clubs。
这把我flop lead out是不是更好些？原来的计划是 如果sb fold， 我可以check/
raise initial raiser。sb如果call，我可以选择... 阅读全帖 |
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g*******s
发帖数: 2828 | 10 $1/2 family game. first time i played with this group. the host and his
friend were ultra aggressive to the tune of maniac. i haven't played many
hands all night.
Hand 1: Host straddled for $4. Folded to me (UTG+1) who raised to $12 with
Snowmen. Folded to Host who called. He had been ultra aggressive with pre-
flop raise $20+ and 3 betting over 50% of the time. He just lost a few hands
to mediocre hands and had about $200, and i had him covered. Flop was 224r.
He checked. I bet $17. He re-poppe... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 11 too bad i cant type Chinese in office
But it is just the same experience that everyone met when learning poker, i'
d love to share some experience with you.
I think it is too shallow to categorize players by loose or tight. We need
get more information from others to play this uncompleted- information game
to help us win the money.
e.g. the one you mentioned, he constantly pushes ppl by preflop raise and
cbet on flop, do you know whether he just shutdown after ppl called his flop
. Or he constan... 阅读全帖 |
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w**********y
发帖数: 1691 | 12 Happy new year, gamblers! ^_^
%%Background:
I was playing in a local poker club for almost half a year. The game is $1/$
3 with unlimited straddle and sleeper. It is at the similar level as $2/$5
in Borgata. Preflop bet is usually $15 to $25.
Last nite, there were 9 ppl. I played with most of them before. Half of the
players is LAG. 1/2 of these LAGs can bet/call/raise with any two cards
preflop.
Villain is super aggressive. Lots of cbets and many bluffings.
He bought in $1k or $2K every time, a... 阅读全帖 |
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h******g
发帖数: 100 | 13 Since I saw a lot of people discussing hands, I think i have a hand to share
as well.
This is the hand happened a few monthes ago in the WPT regional event in
colorado, I was at the time chip leader at the table with about 150K w/ 500/
1000/100 blind level. My opponent is a quite good player sitting around 65K,
who I recently doubled up w/25o aganist his 99 on a 26726 board. We both
like to play a lot of hands and try to outplay/trap our opponent postflop.
I was UTG+1 w/ QJs and raise to 2700. H... 阅读全帖 |
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s******e
发帖数: 44 | 14 我承认我是追寻着大神姐姐的脚步来到VEGAS的，看了她写的赌场分析，觉得也要在
VEGAS试试水。
1.2号晚上到达的，然后吃的马马虎虎的面馆后，就在自己住的bally's开始玩了。刚玩
了几首牌，two pair all in 就被人家在river给hit flush了。。然后在打得长达5个
小时内，给过dealer3次小费。。你们懂的，于是到最后终于肯离开桌子，已经-700了
。回去睡觉。。。。
1.3号，睡好了大觉，准备去一个饭店填饱肚子，各种找不到啊，最后绕道V去吃了个中
餐。。。发现vegas其实吃饭挺麻烦的，buffet么那个队伍都赶上长征了。11:30，正式
进入V（威尼斯人），一打就到了晚上的12点。先汇报战绩，打了约12小时，up了1600+
在一桌上坐下之后也就没有换过位置，反正来来去去换了一些人，但主要还是和一些固
定的人在玩，一个韩国人，2个俄罗斯人，3个东欧的（一家男人），一个台湾阿姨，一
个波士顿小哥。其中也就那个东欧的大叔，叫A吧，打得挺厉害的，我没和他打过几次
，但是不一会，他就从300变成了800+。最开始玩的时候，就老爱去bluff，后面发现，
bl... 阅读全帖 |
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h******n
发帖数: 233 | 15 My 2 cents, please correct me if you feel like to:-)
3. since it's HU after flop, it doesn't make sense to go all in for 30% draw
at flop. I would call $15 bet. But I've read in this forum that some player
like to raise with drawing hand to hide hand strenth.
4. I would cbet $30 at turn. But I would check river if villain check. |
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M********g
发帖数: 717 | 16 hand 1, why it is a coin flip when EP bet? You have at least 60% equity with
tptk. And why he cannot slow play hand like KK+? If he three bets pf, i
guess you have to fold anything less than QQ+ and AK since he is EP and
solid. He has position on you anyway.
hand 2, i also think cc turn sometime is fine as far as you are calling
river high percentage of the time.Otherwise pot control becomes pure giving
up after flop cbet.
so
EP
p
by
the |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 17 "extreme loose image" and some one fold the flop with QQ on the flop as over
pair facing your cbet?
I am shocked.
I really doubt some one will put you on an extreme loose image from a rock image after you raise button c-
bet once and shows 4-7. Its more like " oh, this nit can bluff too and steal in position" |
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c****1
发帖数: 457 | 18 别人不4-bet么。 你3bet后出的cbet比例多大
well. |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 19 for 100BB cap game, 4 bet needs to commit a big percentage of your chips.
You do not know if I have 67s or AA. This makes 3 betting so powerful. I can
easily fold to 4 bet most of time. But I got 4 bet rare enough to make 3 bet
profitable. You can pick up a lot of dead money many times.
I cbet 64.5% after 3 betting. But checking behind does not mean I do not
have anything or give up the pot. |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 20 he is the guy gave me a big lesson.
FTP, 20 rebuy MTT, 600+ players. 9->6/final table
I was the chip lead and 2.5+ over average. After I
knocked out one guy, he switched in. I looked
online on him and chat a litlle. He replied and be polite.
I started to loose up and bluff on him. He doubled up
through me. I was still in decent shape.
Comes one hand. He raised 2.2BB at SB and I called with 59o.
Flop 558, he cbet; I call. turn blank, check; check.
River, 8. he check. I bet 2/3. He raise allin. I ... 阅读全帖 |
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p**********1
发帖数: 1458 | 21 here is what I think about this hand. I am a cash game fish though, mostly
playing SNG type preflop game. so any critics welcome.
preflop, AK did not say what position villain is at, let's assume two ep
limper, villain call from hj. hero open 6x from btn/co, blinds fold, ep fold
, villain (hj)call. stacks are deep, so villain's range could have small/mid
pair or decent SCs.
flop Q87r goes check-check. villain's check means nothing, hero's check
however often means he has a good hand with showdow... 阅读全帖 |
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n***a
发帖数: 274 | 22 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - hands 1. limped to hero in the sb, limped w/ 9Jo
flop: 789r, hero lead 12$, 2 callers, btn ss villain a ship w/27$ total;
hero reraise to 55$ total, others folded
turn: black, river T, villain mucked after hero showed down, claiming had TT
.
2. limped to hero at CO w/ 96s raised to 10$, c,c,c。flop 236r, checked to
CO-1 villain b lead 12$ into a 40+ pot, hero raise to 36$, f,f,villain tank
call,
turn: Jr, CO-1 check, hero ship the rest of villain b's ~45$, villain b tank
call, river: blank, villain b s... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 23 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - hands OOP sucks, My2C, since villain is straight forward, and we are OOP, I prefer
preflop 3bet to 55/fold to 4bet, then re-evaluate on flop.
if we already flat his 3bet, i would choose flop check/min raise/commit
if we c/c his flop cbet, i would c/c turn(木有什么value了啊, control pot 吧)
, donk 1/3 pot river/fold if board is not paird,or donk >=pot size river/
fold if hit boat
In ur situation, if your turn-check/raise-% is not too high, just fold with
sigh. Otherwise, check/call to the end imo. |
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z*******y
发帖数: 578 | 24 3/5 上了200，慢慢打到700+
这把我在UTG 位置 JQo （$700）
UTG+1 （1000+） raised to $20, 4 callers
Flop 9TK rainbow
一看这个flop 马上想到的是： rainbow，没有什么特别的draw，所以slow play，别让
人给跑了，所以我就直接check
orignal raiser cbet 35, Button（400+） called, 我就直接call 了 没有raise
Turn Q 我check，orginal raiser raised $105, Button called
此时到我 我竟然all in了，orignal raiser想了一下call了，Button也call了
那家伙AJ， Button有一张J
这把牌充分体会到了什么叫乐极生悲了，平时打牌如果这种牌面我只有一张J的话，肯
定会很小心，基本上大raise就fold掉了，这次因为flop nuts，在turn上还没从nuts的
模式里走出来，犯了这么严重的错误。 NND 严重错误，必须自我学习批评一下。 |
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D*A
发帖数: 1169 | 25 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 新手求指点 其实这两手都是很值得讨论的例子。
对现场低额来说，Open+C-betting 几乎是最有效的积累筹码的方式。
而KQ，AK就是最典型的这样的起手牌。后位的话最为理想。前位的话，
则要小心，适当混合一些Limp KQ，KJ，以及limp-3bet AK。
理想情况是有三到四个caller，如果heads up则打法更为细微。
如果每次都只有一两人call，我可能会降低一下open数额到12左右
以我的习惯，如果我在pre open，没有人3bet，C-bet几乎是100%
量以半池大概25$为准.
Bet如果赢锅，最好。
如果有人call，则turn的打法则比较精细，多数情况下针对紧手
Check-Call（如果hit），or Check Fold（如果miss）
如果面对的是比较难缠的对手，有可能看穿你的openCbet模式，
Flop call floating，此时有必要turn 开第二枪或者根据情况Check-raise。
第一手牌，turn size 有些大（我也常不注意这点，潜意识是怕人追上)，其实太大了
就进入了folded worse,trapped by better... 阅读全帖 |
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l******1
发帖数: 365 | 26 总体说来运气不太好。
///////
1/2 220多chips，utg（with 600） straddle，我比较了解，此人
比较aggressive但是有read。我limp in with KK。
4家call，utg果然reraise到25.我reraise到80.
他想了一下call，flop KQ3 two clubs.
他看了一会儿我的chips，push我all in。我call，
turn A club， river blank，他show 67 club。what the @#￥%！
///////
1/2 still kk，same position，with about 100.
utg straddle，我 raise 到 16. middle position一家20多all in。
5 caller including me。 flop K7s9s,我70 all in。
an old man call， turn T,river 6， he showed A8o，。 !@#$
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1/2 about 150，with K4 hearts... 阅读全帖 |
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n***a
发帖数: 274 | 27 preflop raise, 3bet；
flop: 552ss，3better cbet, caller A all in, caller B all in on top; 我看了看
手中的22。。。
3better deep stack想了很久，说：“你们都是照吧，靠。”
亮牌：caller A=A4ss，caller B=55! 3better=ATdd！！！
最后BBJ没有中。
还好我preflop fold了 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 28 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 这手牌乍办 mm老湿见笑了，我最近受刺激，牌风转为40/12/5，并适当增大cbet％，不跟赢率reg打
abc，show down nit，偶尔一小偷之后，最近5万手 4bb/100hands，勉强度日。所以，
您可以移驾6－max 50NL，欢迎血洗。 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 29 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 这手牌乍办 mm老湿见笑了，我最近受刺激，牌风转为40/12/5，并适当增大cbet％，不跟赢率reg打
abc，show down nit，偶尔一小偷之后，最近5万手 4bb/100hands，勉强度日。所以，
您可以移驾6－max 50NL，欢迎血洗。 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 30 哥说个事儿，有一把4bet pot的牌，哥拿着kk 3bet/flat 4bet in position，flop也
不是那么湿，就是有张k，那哥们儿cbet，哥raise，那哥儿们call，turn 小牌，他
check，哥2/3 pot,他call，river 小牌无对无花无顺，那哥儿们直接donk推个pot as
allin，哥菊花一紧，哆哆嗦嗦，生怕点错，call了。pot 800bb，这事发生在哥的50NL
桌上。
知道weaktight是怎么练成了的吧 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 31 凭记忆，大致如下，tourney, in the money, 24 ppl left，ante/blinds 1600/8000/
16000
pay structure: final 9 starts to jump significantly, 10 to 35 close
stack: hero 22bb 8th, v1 19bb 13rd, v2 12bb 18th
images:
hero: tricky player, flatted with over pair, post flop bluff/fold to shove
once, normal steal %, not 3 bet much, flat-in-blinds-range broadway+
v1: 25/23, recently dropped steal % after facing couple of 3bet shoves, high
cbet%, a4s btn 2bb steal/call tag short stack 8bb 3bet shove once
v2: preflop cal... 阅读全帖 |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 32 KTo is a very tricky hand to play UTG. It almost never hit the nuts, and can
be easily dominated by hands like AT, KJ, KQ, AK. My general suggestion is
that just don't play this hand in early positions.
It is difficult to comment on this perticular op without VPIP/PFR/3b etc...
According to your discription, I guess this guy raise flop/ bet the turn a
lot. If he raise-shove with QT or worse very often, then you made a perfect
play. Otherwise, this is a not a good flop to cbet. I would check and
... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 33 前言：
哥一直跟朋友讲，打牌绝对不能无脑模式化，要有质疑精神，钻研精神。可是哥自己始
终还是无法坚决贯彻。浪费了真金白银买来的hm2的大好资源。每天貌似打很多手牌，
但是打过算过，也不复盘总结，这样下去真的是白白浪费中年的大好时光。
哥最终还是下定决心，牺牲tourney被knockout之后打dota的时间，每天花个半小时看
看复盘、写写扑克日记。
背景介绍：
哥就是屌丝中的战斗机...
2010年6月充值，从online micro stake 6－max cash game和freeroll、micro buy－
in tournament开始打起，享受着上上下下的快感，前后投入总额270刀，逐步升级，
2013年之前主打50NL 6－max cash game ＋ 3刀至11刀买入级别的tourney，盈利不错
。2013年头2个月running super good，重心逐步转到tourney，对tourney strategy、
心理控制以及资金管理方面有一点点心得(虽然skill set还属中下游，每天还在不停的
犯错)。哥完全依靠数据打牌。最喜欢说的两句话，it dep... 阅读全帖 |
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k***n
发帖数: 849 | 34 Good analysis. The tip I get is I'm gonna cbet 973r flops 100% of the time
in a live game, if I ever play one :P
set
is
good |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 35 1 1k gtd 11
2 1.5k gtd 11
3 750 gtd 3.3
4 500 gtd 22 $208
5 1.5k gtd 3.3+3+3
6 3k gtd 11+10+10 $64.60
-87.6 272.6 +185
1, AJo 10bb < 77, out
2, 66 10bb reshove CL 2bb open, CL call, <99, out
3, T7o on SB shove 6bb BB < AQo, K5s MP 6bb open shove<33, out
4, BTN 10bb K6o shove MP CL(41/0)'s limp, SB snap reshove, > SB's AJo,
double up.
Stack 25bb, Pos 4/6, first 4 get paid,这桌打得要毁三观了，昨那位奇葩哥风格大
变41/11/2，坐哥左手，再左面又是一家32/6/6，各种烂牌flat。哥慢慢看戏。10bb EP
with ... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 36 上篇提到，最后14人的样子，哥坐拥50个bb，且对桌子情况有个大致的了解，2个aggro
被哥玩残（只剩10到20bb，开始ABC），2个紧b被哥锁定，还有哥右手第二家（姑且称
其小黑哥吧），不久前用99接了哥左手第一家（欧洲大叔）的3bet shove，输给AA，自
己给cripple了，哥开始觉得离第一名有点近，唯一需要注意的是哥左手第一家（欧洲
大叔），他刚上桌的时候是个短筹，一手stop and go，逼走了哥A5o的小盲steal（特
此修改，应该是btn steal lol）。之
后，用AA从小黑哥身上double up。再之后大盲位KK，3bet aggro button steal，在
wet flop上，cbet/snap shove aggro的tp的snap raise，button 考虑了足足10分钟，
一个call，输到只剩2bb，不久出局。所以，现在欧洲大叔大概40个bb的样子（不得不
说，他确实run得跟哥一样好lol），作为桌上的2nd chips leader，风格solid，于是
来到了这把牌。
hand 1：
hero on sb with KdJ... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 37 上周的一手牌，live 1/2，因为桌上有3条大鱼，哥几乎全程没进局（3小时玩了两三把
，都是flop就放弃）于是来到这手牌：
哥UTG limp，btn 鱼1 raise到12，sb 鱼2 call，bb fold，哥reraise到52。
鱼1 fold，鱼2问哥如果他call了愿不愿意check down，被旁边人制止，说规则上讲必
须见到flop才能negotiate。
flop JdJc2d，villain check，哥cbet 75，villain 想了下，call，他stack 还剩80
，哥cover他。
turn Ks，villain check，哥check
river 8h，villain donk shove 82，哥tank大约一分钟，fold。
猜猜看，我们什么牌 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 38 MM老湿说的是，只是哥还是偏向于75的cbet/放弃，对手range实在是太宽，能联系上
flop的％下去很多，但是一旦联系上了，基本就不会走了。另一种可能性是小对子，哥
觉着75能bet small pockets off，反而shove会把它们劝进来。哥另一个concern是保
持line的平衡，最后的tank/fold也是演给其他人看的。
话说回来，对上一桌多鱼，还是老老实实等大牌再value比较划算，反正鱼们也不care
位置，不care你到底有什么。 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 39 ～～非常同意，要看对手风格，哥的这条鱼是典型的fight back型，输钱没事，输人不
行，哎，呵呵
--那也是flop shove, 他要加个K high Q high 在他的range 里，再加些小pair.
～～哥主要是平衡大牌时候的flop cbet size。river的tank/fold是不想让人知道哥用
很light的牌preflop limp/3bet。哥觉得，保持weak image也不算太差吧（lol），它
让你的strong move更convincing，当然，真拿到大牌了，还得想其他法子把人圈进来
（实际情况是拿到大牌的case少，烂牌、medium strength的case多得多啊，当然对上
鱼就没差了）。另一方面，大多数情况下，哥也是希望对手river bluff OOP的。
--完全不同意。value >>> bluff/catch bluff. 在1/2上更重要。 要是我snap fold,
show 个6。 我觉得你这是本末倒置了。 要在扑克上赢钱最重要的不是bluff/catch
bluff， 而是value, value, value ... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 40 都是cbet 2/3吧，where is the different sizing? |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 41 还好flop 没敢 cbet
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Merge $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
Hero (MP2): $103.50
CO: $42.81
BTN: $119.95
SB: $41.27
BB: $69.84
UTG: $46.78
UTG+1: $142.24
UTG+2: $113.35
MP1: $97.23
Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP2 with 5h 6h
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $3, UTG+2 calls $3, 1 fold, Hero raises to $13.50, 1
fold, BTN calls $13.50, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $10.50, UTG+2 calls $10.50
Flop: ($55.50) 8s 9s Qc (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $40.62, UTG+1 raises to $
12... 阅读全帖 |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 42 亚洲guy flop reraise 到100时，很明显他牌力超过两对了。
hero和老头都应该fold。
老头在flop bet 25.可能是Cbet，也可能是top pair或更强。所以hero现在应该只能
call。（这就是为什么如果bluff应该在turn，因为flop他的bet不能确定他牌力上限。
如果turn他bet比较弱，才能确定他是one pair.)hero flop reraise到50明显是top
pair或更强，（同样不能确定上限）。所以亚洲guy对他们两的bet敢再raise，至少是
两对以上的实力。 |
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q****8
发帖数: 3281 | 43 1. Why not cbet flop?
2. Call or fold 50 50, I would call.
3. u play well.
4. If u trust ur read 100%, fold. I would call and see her turn action.
5. u have to shove here, doesnt matter what
they have. Btw, 3bet size is bad. |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 44 自己打得臭，turn上面slow play不raise，miss value，donk allin 75块 river，你
还去snap call，其实你是更大的donk
--哈哈
数据只是参考,因为很多的情况下,对手数据还是处于一个很宽的中间带,死套数据会死
很惨.当然,数据太离谱就另当别论了,比如vpip 80, pfr 35, 3bet 5, AF 10, flop
donk bet 50 , wssd小于30,之类的.
哥通常采取看数据+历史记录+头标的方式,十有八九能估摸出对手的范围和tendency.
象这手牌,哥估计对手数据应该已经很难看了,然后flop和turn上的两barrel,有太多手
牌落后于老湿,如果对手river cbet或者历史上3barrel的数据也很高,哥大概也会在绝
大多数情况下平call turn.
至于river么,虽然size看上去有些危险,但是这张q实在是有太高的%是张blank,这就是
river 用1对2的比例call的理由.
哥目前还在学习阶段,如有错误,欢迎指正 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 45 哥btn位几乎90%至少min raise,并且保持60%以上的cbet,没有3barrel,有一次river
pot size bluff in position被抓,哥在OOP时,尽量少进局,且对方也没有因为这个频繁
翻牌前加注.
对手愿意打OOP,且愿意在flop用很宽的范围,跟上一条街,然后turn上check/call大约60
%,很多情况下,愿意拿相当强的牌(如tptk)check/call到底(因为哥比较激进). 拿到
monster,会在river lead,size视哥的强度而定(也就是说他也有read),没有bluff
总得来说,对手打法偏保守,倾向于防守型.
双方有效stack 100bb
求最优打法 |
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p****0
发帖数: 611 | 46 Fryking 高见. Villian 是个老头. 平时很tight. 这手牌他是KcTc, 让我意外不少.
以他的一贯打法，flop with guts shot，他是不会cbet的. 而且即使bet on the flop
，turn made 3 diamonds，他居然还bet 2/3 pot OOP. 关键是我在BTN跟了. 这里我承
认我完全miss read， 所以没有raise bluff. River Qd made straight for him. 如
果是我面对LAG OOP， 我一般会选择check，视情况在再定. 但是老头选择继续value
bet, 让我完全没有想到. 这让我重新考虑自己在他眼中的image了. 看来老头是认定我
没有flush. river value bet我.
你觉得老头这个move怎么样？ 看来weak/tight 有时候也会很creative。
OOP
you' |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 47 真心伤不起阿。
本想碎叫前，在grind一下nl100，都满园。
顺便想rail一下nl200，见到哥的几个死对头reg都在玩，原来他们平时都是在等nl200
的时候随便开几桌nl100跟哥在玩阿。
一时ego上来，见到有人sit out赶紧坐上4桌跟他们切磋切磋。结果没打几手几十个bb
花的一下，没了。马上的，full house over full house，又几十个bb，花的一下，没
了。再接着，3way raised flop 3s4s5d，哥拿66 c／raise original raiser, 对方
cbet／shove，哥无奈接下，对手亮出67，@％！￥＃％@＃，又是一个buyin，花的一下
，哎，45分钟，down 2.5个buying，只能郁闷的去碎叫了。
mm老湿，是不是你，昨又过来捕鱼了。 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 48 不如你把最近几万手牌的数据贴一下。 我们也可以学习一下。
vpip, 3 bet, fold to 3 bet, % to show down, show down winning %, cbet% at
flop turn river, win rate. 让我门敬仰一下
rake
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 49 100bb effective stack
villain solid tag 24/21/4 at button, open 2.6bb
sb flat, hero at bb with 66 flat.
flop 69Jr, check, check, villain cbet 5bb, sb fold, hero tank raise to 14bb
villain tank reraise to 30bb, hero tank reraise to 46bb, villain reraies to
62bb.
Hero? |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 50 $10+1 buyin, 300 entries MTT, 5 players left
after ante and blinds
HJ 19bb solid
CO 17bb solid
BTN 50bb table is tight except btn who open 1/3 hands, with very high cbet%,
table rarely 3bet including btn, no deep fighting so far
SB 15bb rock
BB 2bb rock
HJ fold,
CO who long time no open, 2bb open with AQo
BTN shove, all fold
CO? |
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