p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 1 deep stack 2/5 NL.
My image in the session is extremely loose. A few hand ago, there were
straggle UTG, I made a move by raising to 50$ with 74o on button. SB , a
tight reg called. We were both well over 1k deep. the flop came 9 blank
blank. he checked to me, I put him on a decent pair but afraid to get all
the money in. I think he can not stand 3 barrel. so I bet 100 on the flop,
he thought about 3 minutes and turned over QQ and fold. I showed the 74o. he
said if he called the flop, he had to call the turn and river. too risky
with QQ.
then this hand came out. I limped in EP with 33, same tight reg raised to
25, button called and I called.
Flop came 34T , two spade. I led out 60$, original raiser folded, button
raised to 160$. Button is a reg as well, relatively loose, made move once a
while, sitting with around 1k. I had him covered.
what is the most +ev play there? smooth call or reraise? | c******q
发帖数: 456 | 2 I would 3-bet to $400 to give btn enough room to 4-bet allin here. It makes
your hand so strong if you call on the flop with such a board.
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发帖数: 190 | 3 Agree. I would do the same thing here.
makes
【在 c******q 的大作中提到】
: I would 3-bet to $400 to give btn enough room to 4-bet allin here. It makes
: your hand so strong if you call on the flop with such a board.
: ★ Sent from iPhone App: iReader Mitbbs Lite 7.39
| s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 4 i bet the btn will fold, if X'd, TP or FD. Calling is
fine to pretend weak OOP. If he is in draw, he will lead out on
turn. I doubt he will lead out on turn w/ TP. | H****r
发帖数: 2801 | 5 I'd call ...
he
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: deep stack 2/5 NL.
: My image in the session is extremely loose. A few hand ago, there were
: straggle UTG, I made a move by raising to 50$ with 74o on button. SB , a
: tight reg called. We were both well over 1k deep. the flop came 9 blank
: blank. he checked to me, I put him on a decent pair but afraid to get all
: the money in. I think he can not stand 3 barrel. so I bet 100 on the flop,
: he thought about 3 minutes and turned over QQ and fold. I showed the 74o. he
: said if he called the flop, he had to call the turn and river. too risky
: with QQ.
:
| g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 6 +1. OOP, Should not assume button will raise turn... Be prepared to see set
over set...
makes
【在 c******q 的大作中提到】
: I would 3-bet to $400 to give btn enough room to 4-bet allin here. It makes
: your hand so strong if you call on the flop with such a board.
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| c****1
发帖数: 457 | 7 I'd call. I think he is testing if you have real strong hand like set. his
raise is rarely for value here and your read how likely he make a raise with
drawing hand is very important to make this decision
he
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: deep stack 2/5 NL.
: My image in the session is extremely loose. A few hand ago, there were
: straggle UTG, I made a move by raising to 50$ with 74o on button. SB , a
: tight reg called. We were both well over 1k deep. the flop came 9 blank
: blank. he checked to me, I put him on a decent pair but afraid to get all
: the money in. I think he can not stand 3 barrel. so I bet 100 on the flop,
: he thought about 3 minutes and turned over QQ and fold. I showed the 74o. he
: said if he called the flop, he had to call the turn and river. too risky
: with QQ.
:
| M********g
发帖数: 717 | 8 Agreed. It was a testing. If you called the raise, he probably would not put
you on made weak/semi strong hands.
with
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: I'd call. I think he is testing if you have real strong hand like set. his
: raise is rarely for value here and your read how likely he make a raise with
: drawing hand is very important to make this decision
:
: he
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 9 "extreme loose image" and some one fold the flop with QQ on the flop as over
pair facing your cbet?
I am shocked.
I really doubt some one will put you on an extreme loose image from a rock image after you raise button c-
bet once and shows 4-7. Its more like " oh, this nit can bluff too and steal in position" | l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 10 With flush and straight draw there, I would reraise 200 more for value. I
don't think he was making a move with only a raise of 100 more.He could have
JJ or QQ or even A10. You need to get the money in when you have the best.
Plus, a spade or a 5 or 2 on the turn could slow down the action.
he
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: deep stack 2/5 NL.
: My image in the session is extremely loose. A few hand ago, there were
: straggle UTG, I made a move by raising to 50$ with 74o on button. SB , a
: tight reg called. We were both well over 1k deep. the flop came 9 blank
: blank. he checked to me, I put him on a decent pair but afraid to get all
: the money in. I think he can not stand 3 barrel. so I bet 100 on the flop,
: he thought about 3 minutes and turned over QQ and fold. I showed the 74o. he
: said if he called the flop, he had to call the turn and river. too risky
: with QQ.
:
| p**********1
发帖数: 1458 | 11 agree, I would 3bet and try to get it in. being OOP against a reg is a
consideration here. more betting rounds for fish means more chance to make
mistakes, but for a reg in position, probably not.
makes
【在 c******q 的大作中提到】
: I would 3-bet to $400 to give btn enough room to 4-bet allin here. It makes
: your hand so strong if you call on the flop with such a board.
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| p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 12 thanks a lot for all the input guys!
I think both reraise or smooth call has its own reason and merit. Given my
image and villian's playing style, now I lean to smooth call to attract
more value.
In actual play, I did reraise to 360$ on the flop. But he instantly
folded. He may have a weak pair, or weak draw like A5 w/o FD etc. He could
have total airball as well.
The negative aspect of smooth call is that there is tons of turn card
can kill action/even get me beat. But reraise on the flop pretty much tell
him that I have a set or combo draw and willing to get in. Another option
is just to shove on the flop against villian's raise. I could get hero
called from TPTK/over pair etc given my image, but bad for ballance and take
villian's all bluff range away.
With this 200BB effective stack, now I still prefer to smooth call
and reevaluate on the turn. The overal goal of poker is to get more equity/
value from our hand against villian's range anyway.
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