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话题: villain话题: hero话题: raise话题: co话题: flop
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n***a
发帖数: 274
1
1. limped to hero in the sb, limped w/ 9Jo
flop: 789r, hero lead 12$, 2 callers, btn ss villain a ship w/27$ total;
hero reraise to 55$ total, others folded
turn: black, river T, villain mucked after hero showed down, claiming had TT
.
2. limped to hero at CO w/ 96s raised to 10$, c,c,c。flop 236r, checked to
CO-1 villain b lead 12$ into a 40+ pot, hero raise to 36$, f,f,villain tank
call,
turn: Jr, CO-1 check, hero ship the rest of villain b's ~45$, villain b tank
call, river: blank, villain b showed a5 and lost.
3. villain c手上有~2000$的stack。虽然preflop偶尔会limp一些垃圾派,但postflop
灰常tight,比较straight forward。hero oop比较tight,loose ip,但进锅以后相当
aggressive,有一些lucky shot,不到两个小时从120$打到了500$。
hero:CO QQ 8$,villain c:raise to 18$,hero call
analysis:这是我记得villain c第一次preflop 3bet,虽然可能知道hero在CO的raise
light,但我觉得他的range应该是JJ+,AQ+。
flop:AQ9hhh,这是个让hero感觉复杂的flop,second set,但是又好像危机重重。
hero check call 25$
analysis:hero cbet应该可以排除掉不带h的JJ和KK。
turn:7r,hero check,villain c 65$
analysis:JJh应该也不在villain的range里了。hero决定min raise看看villain在什
么地方。
hero:raise to 130$,villain c asked how much hero had left,tank raise到260
$, 为什么,怎么办?
M********g
发帖数: 717
2
in last hand, i feel the probability he has a heart k is pretty high. If you
gave his correct range, the only hand you should be worried about is AA. I
would get in.

TT
tank
tank

【在 n***a 的大作中提到】
: 1. limped to hero in the sb, limped w/ 9Jo
: flop: 789r, hero lead 12$, 2 callers, btn ss villain a ship w/27$ total;
: hero reraise to 55$ total, others folded
: turn: black, river T, villain mucked after hero showed down, claiming had TT
: .
: 2. limped to hero at CO w/ 96s raised to 10$, c,c,c。flop 236r, checked to
: CO-1 villain b lead 12$ into a 40+ pot, hero raise to 36$, f,f,villain tank
: call,
: turn: Jr, CO-1 check, hero ship the rest of villain b's ~45$, villain b tank
: call, river: blank, villain b showed a5 and lost.

G********r
发帖数: 666
3
NORMALLY -- 90% AA
10% AK with K of hearts
Given histories of previous hands, ero's table image is not that respectable
, though, so it is subject to villain's read on hero. If he was
sophisticated and put you on an inferior hand you normally played and won
with, there was a chance that you were way ahead.
p****r
发帖数: 9164
4
for hand c, I do not like to raise the turn for info, too expensive.

TT
tank
tank

【在 n***a 的大作中提到】
: 1. limped to hero in the sb, limped w/ 9Jo
: flop: 789r, hero lead 12$, 2 callers, btn ss villain a ship w/27$ total;
: hero reraise to 55$ total, others folded
: turn: black, river T, villain mucked after hero showed down, claiming had TT
: .
: 2. limped to hero at CO w/ 96s raised to 10$, c,c,c。flop 236r, checked to
: CO-1 villain b lead 12$ into a 40+ pot, hero raise to 36$, f,f,villain tank
: call,
: turn: Jr, CO-1 check, hero ship the rest of villain b's ~45$, villain b tank
: call, river: blank, villain b showed a5 and lost.

d*****0
发帖数: 1500
5
OOP sucks, My2C, since villain is straight forward, and we are OOP, I prefer
preflop 3bet to 55/fold to 4bet, then re-evaluate on flop.
if we already flat his 3bet, i would choose flop check/min raise/commit
if we c/c his flop cbet, i would c/c turn(木有什么value了啊, control pot 吧)
, donk 1/3 pot river/fold if board is not paird,or donk >=pot size river/
fold if hit boat
In ur situation, if your turn-check/raise-% is not too high, just fold with
sigh. Otherwise, check/call to the end imo.
n***a
发帖数: 274
6
turn:7r,hero check,villain 65$
analysis:JJh应该也不在villain的range里了。hero决定min raise看看villain在什
么地方。
hero:raise to 130$,villain asked how much hero had left,tank raise到260$。
analysis:KKh也out了。而且因为villain几乎不可能用不带A的suited cards 3bet
preflop,所以hero分析villain的range在AA,AKh,AQ。
但这里hero犯了一个错误,而且事实证明是个致命的错误。villain不应该会AKh min
raise hero的3bet,而hero当时强烈的把villain放在了这手牌上。另外,hero没有把
自己的QQ计算进去,错误的估计了对手拥有AA和AQ的可能性。villain手上一定有一张A
,那么外面还有两张A,hero手上有两张Q,那么外面只有一张Q。换句话说,villain是
AA的几率是AQ的2倍。
hero push all in 235$ on top,villain tank call,
river blank,villain won the pot。
对于villain来说,flush其实是我range里很大的一部分。而flush几乎不在villain的
range里,所以river represent flush应该可以拿下这个pot的。
d*****0
发帖数: 1500
7
所以villain还是aces。
个人看法,从结果反推最优action毫无意义,反而阻碍了个人对poker的正确认识。
就这个例子来说,你愿意把set q转成river bluff,在绝大多数普通的情况下,损失的
不是一点点。只有一种情况下,把那么大的价值转成bluff才成立。那就是你对对手相
当的了解,即非常肯定对手的牌,且对手有能力并曾经做过一些hero fold。黎叔教的
W********m
发帖数: 7793
8
黎叔你这个internet kid 现在谱很大啊,还有代言人。

【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: 所以villain还是aces。
: 个人看法,从结果反推最优action毫无意义,反而阻碍了个人对poker的正确认识。
: 就这个例子来说,你愿意把set q转成river bluff,在绝大多数普通的情况下,损失的
: 不是一点点。只有一种情况下,把那么大的价值转成bluff才成立。那就是你对对手相
: 当的了解,即非常肯定对手的牌,且对手有能力并曾经做过一些hero fold。黎叔教的

n***a
发帖数: 274
9
说的真没错

【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: 所以villain还是aces。
: 个人看法,从结果反推最优action毫无意义,反而阻碍了个人对poker的正确认识。
: 就这个例子来说,你愿意把set q转成river bluff,在绝大多数普通的情况下,损失的
: 不是一点点。只有一种情况下,把那么大的价值转成bluff才成立。那就是你对对手相
: 当的了解,即非常肯定对手的牌,且对手有能力并曾经做过一些hero fold。黎叔教的

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
10
in general, turn check raise is a very strong move, much creditable than on
flop.
on this board, few ppl would commit back big with KhX hand.

【在 n***a 的大作中提到】
: 说的真没错
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