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W***n
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来自主题: Stock版 - AIG has 9 lives, hahaha
AIG Profit Climbs 27% to $2.33 Billion on Investments
By Zachary Tracer and Noah Buhayar - Aug 2, 2012 5:43 PM ET
American International Group Inc. (AIG), the insurer majority-owned by the U
.S. Treasury Department, said profit increased 27 percent on investments and
improvements at its property-casualty unit.
Net income rose to $2.33 billion, or $1.33 a share, from $1.84 billion, or $
1, a year earlier, the New York-based insurer said today in a statement.
Operating profit, which excludes some ... 阅读全帖
b*****t
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下午11:00(31 分钟前)8964 苏联“六四”档案解密:“六四”屠杀三千人从 童言无
忌 戈尔巴乔夫支持六四屠杀。
http://www.google.com/buzz/109245144142018091431/X2G2iCMcpux
Reshared post from Pillar Chang.8964 苏联“六四”档案解密:天安门死3000人 -
诸哥驿站·博客·网摘
作者:封从德 注意这一段对话: Lukyanov reports that the real number of
casualties on Tiananmen Square was 3,000.(Lukyanov:天安门的真实死亡数字是
3000人) Gorbachev: We must be realists. They, like us, have to defend
themselves. Three thousands . . . So what?(戈尔巴乔夫:我们必须现实。他们和
我们一样,必须维护自己。三 千。。。那又怎么样?) 这是“六四”屠杀三千人的最
新证据。此前有三个证据指向三千人这个... 阅读全帖
c***s
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新华-我报道BREAKING: Explosion in China's Urumqi, capital of Xinjiang, casualties unknown
据新华社英文@新华-我报道,新疆乌鲁木齐发生爆炸,伤亡不明。
据新华网英文版报道:Explosion in Xinjiang's Urumqi, casualties unknown - Explosion occurred around 8 a.m. Thursday near a park in Urumqi, capital of northwest China's Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region, with casualties unknown yet.
微博截图
爆炸地点附近有人民公园
爆炸发生在周四早上8点乌鲁木齐一处公园附近,目前伤亡人数不明。
URUMQI, May 22 (Xinhua) -- Explosion caused by vehicle collisions occurred around 8 a.m. Thursday at an open market... 阅读全帖
r*****y
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呵呵。我的1000数字是来自最近看的封从德的《广场日记》的印象。当然他本人也不知
道确切数字,只是后来根据外国记者在北京各大医院和红十字会得到的估计数。
查了一下wiki,各种数字从200到1万都有。当然你说的没错,tg官方数字和丁子林的数
字都只有200左右。
Number of deaths
The number of dead and wounded remains unclear because of the large
discrepancies between the different estimates. Some of the early estimates
were based on reports of a figure of 2,600 from the Chinese Red Cross. The
official Chinese government figure is 241 dead, including soldiers, and 7,
000 wounded.[82]
According to an analysis by Nicholas D. K... 阅读全帖
r*****y
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1 电影里好像喊的是斯大林命令不许撤退。
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凤凰大视野里也说了,城防委员会本来是准备组织平民撤退的,但是斯大林很不高兴认
为这会造成恐慌,所以后来没有组织。大喇叭喊斯大林命令不许撤退很正常。
2 GLANTZ的书里有一句话提到伏尔加舰队晚上把伤员和平民运到河东,不过这是10月的
事情了,9月也许没有。
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凤凰大视野里也有采访的俄国老百姓说他们是乘船和伤员一起运到河东的,不过人数少
,也不一定是事先组织的,而是个人行为。100多万平民被留在河西,逃到河东的平民
大约10万。
3 处决1万4逃兵的具体出处是哪里?
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wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_stalingrad
Various scholars have estimated the Axis suffere... 阅读全帖
r********9
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转载另外一篇谈长津湖战役的文章:
光荣一页--朝鲜战争长津湖战役中美兵力对比
朝鲜战争中有中美战史上光荣的一页,那就是长津湖战役。当时,美军分东西两线向中
国边境挺进。其中东线为由ALMOND将军指挥的第十集团军(X CORPS)。其攻击目标是中
朝边境的长津湖区域。该地又称长津水库,是一个将长津江截流形成的人工湖泊,上有
水电站若干。 美军前锋已到鸭绿江边,对着对岸,向江中小便(注一)。
X CORPS司令ALMOND给其师长们的指令是:“Don't let a bunch of Chinese
laundrymen stop you." 在美国排华法案下,美国华人从事的主要职业就是开洗衣店。
而且开洗衣店还被美国当地政府制定歧视性条款加以限制。旧金山市政条例就规定,洗
衣店不能开在木头房子里,结果有华人不服,继续在木房子里开洗衣店,被逮捕入狱。
这是一个著名的案例。在朝鲜战争前,美国加州宪法的人权法案部分有一章CHINESE例
外,特意把华人排除在出去,不享受人权。
美军将领文化水平都很高,称中国人为Chinese laundrymen是有法律依据的。美军士兵
根据他们在美国看到的... 阅读全帖
R****a
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来自主题: Military版 - 帝国的陨落
帝国的陨落
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The Decline and Fall of the American Empire
By Alfred W. McCoy
December 11, 2010 "The Nation" - - A soft landing for America 40 years from
now? Don’t bet on it. The demise of the United States as the global
superpower could come far more quickly than anyone imagines. If Washington
is dreaming of 2040 or 2050 as the end of the American Century, a more
realistic asses... 阅读全帖
r*****y
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看清楚了,非战斗减员也是算在casualties里面的。所有原因导致的失去战斗能力都算
casualties。
In military usage, casualties usually refer to combatants who have been
rendered combat-ineffective, or all persons lost to active military service,
which comprises those killed in action, killed by disease, disabled by
physical injuries, disabled by psychological trauma, captured, deserted, and
missing, but does not include injuries which do not prevent a person from
fighting.
r*****y
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单说casualtie,可能是包括非战斗减员,这个你无法否认。战斗期间的病减员和非战
斗负伤都是非战斗减员。
现在拿英文wiki来做证据了?你怎么不说英文wiki上甘岭美军casualty才1500,韩军
casualty才4500?

CASAULTY
s***n
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From wiki:
Finland:
25,904 dead or missing [14]
43,557 wounded[15]
1,000 captured[16]
957 civilians in air raids[14]
20–30 tanks
62 aircraft [17]
USSR:
126,875 dead or missing [F 8] [18]
188,671 wounded, injured or burned[18]
5,572 captured[20]
3,543 tanks[21][22][23]
261–515 aircraft[23][24]
F8: There are many estimates of the number of the Soviet casualties. The
official Soviet figure in 1940 was 48,745 dead. In 1990, Mikhail Semiryaga
claimed 53,522 dead and N. I. Baryshnikov 53,500 dead. In ... 阅读全帖
v*****s
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来自主题: Military版 - 长津湖这战打得太亏了啊
他这个数据有没有问题?感觉有点偏差。wiki上的数字是
US:
1,029 killed
4,582 wounded
4,894 missing
7,338 non-battle casualties
China:
19,202 battle casualties
28,954 non-battle casualties[6]
a****h
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Japanese casualties
Contemporary studies from the Beijing Central Compilation and Translation
Press have revealed that the Japanese suffered a total of 2,227,200
casualties, including 1,055,000 dead and 1,172,341 injured. These numbers
were largely based on Japanese statistics.[6]
The Japanese recorded around 1.1 to 1.9 million military casualties during
all of World War II (which include killed, wounded and missing). The
official death-toll of Japanese KIA in China, according to the Japan Defen... 阅读全帖
l****p
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http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/05/30/the-bomb-didnt-beat-japan-s
The Bomb Didn’t Beat Japan… Stalin Did
BY WARD WILSON MAY 30, 2013
U.S. use of nuclear weapons against Japan during World War II has long been
a subject of emotional debate. Initially, few questioned President Truman’
s decision to drop two atomic bombs, on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. But, in 1965
, historian Gar Alperovitz argued that, although the bombs did force an
immediate end to the war, Japan’s leaders had wanted to sur... 阅读全帖
w********9
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这篇文章对死亡人数的理解与我的一些认识基本是一样的。
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-many-americans-died-in-korea/
How Many Americans Died In Korea?
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June 5, 2000 - As the 50th anniversary of the start of the Korean War
approaches, one key statistic is being reclarified— the one detailing just
how many Americans were killed in the war.
For years after the war ended in 1953, the Pentagon published a figure of 54
,260. That combined the 33,643 "battle deaths" with 20,617 ... 阅读全帖
l*****7
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来自主题: Military版 - 俄罗斯飞机被土耳其击落
【 以下文字转载自 Military2 讨论区 】
发信人: WangMaZi (王二小), 信区: Military2
标 题: 美帝发正念了:Russians will suffer casualties in Syria
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Oct 10 02:27:05 2015, 美东)
Defense Secretary Ash Carter said today that he expects that Russian forces
in Syria “will begin to suffer casualties" in "coming days” as they
participate in a ground offensive launched Wednesday by the Bashar al-Assad
regime.
“Russia has chosen to double-down on their longstanding relationship with
Assad, committing additional military... 阅读全帖
p****s
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http://www.history.army.mil/html/books/021/21-2/CMH_Pub_21-2.pd
278页。
53年3月23日之时,Hill 266就是哥伦比亚营(美7师31团4营)的防守山头,就是被称为
老秃山的山头。
Hill 255和Hill 191理解起来有点乱,我的理解是一个在哥伦比亚营左边由美韩营(美7
师31团2营)防守的山头,另一个在哥伦比亚营右边由美韩营(美7师31团3营)防守的山头
,3营的这个山头就是被称为猪排山的山头。
http://www.history.army.mil/books/korea/truce/ch17.htm
393页开始。
哥伦比亚营当时有哥伦比亚兵4个连,加上增派的31团B连1个连的美国兵。美军3月23日
在Hill 266没什么损失,死伤主要是哥伦比亚人。
美军在Hill 266伤亡是3月24日早晨开始25日结束的反攻。
...Maj. Gen. Arthur G. Trudeau... ordered the 1st Battalion, 32d Regiment,
under Lt. Col. Georg... 阅读全帖
p****s
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为清楚起见,按照美陆军的官方战史
http://www.history.army.mil/books/korea/truce/ch17.htm
393-396页,对3月底哥伦比亚营守卫的老秃山头的战斗过程的大致描述如下:
战斗前1天美7师31团的部署:
从左到右是xx山头、老秃山头、猪排山头,从左到右是第2、第4 (哥伦比亚营)、第3
营。1营是堵2,4,3营阵地的缺口的。
3月23日晚,志愿军423团占领老秃山头表面阵地,哥伦比亚营死伤20%,剩余人员被压
入地下坑道地堡。
3月24日晨到25日晚,美陆军31团1营的A,B,C三个连反攻老秃山头表面阵地,死伤失踪
300人但未能夺回山头表面阵地。联系美空军要用航弹于26日晨进行大规模轰炸。
美空军26日晨轰炸前,25日晚26日晨的某个时候,美军认为志愿军为防空袭而放弃了老
秃山头表面阵地(美军没发现老秃山头表面阵地有动静),被压入老秃山头地下坑道地
堡的哥伦比亚人借此机会于26日晨逃回美军当时的控制线(UNC)。
原文:
The Old Baldy-Porkchop area was held by the 31st Infantry... 阅读全帖
r*****y
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坐落在美国首都华盛顿特区的朝鲜战争退役老兵纪念碑(Korean War Veterans
Memorial),每天都吸引着来自世界各地成千上万的游客。在该纪念碑的石碑上,刻着
美国和联合国在战争中的伤亡数字,如下:
Dead — United States: 54246, United Nations: 628833.
Wounded — United States: 103284, United Nations: 1064453.
Captured — United States: 7140, United Nations: 92970.
Missing — United States: 8177, United Nations: 470267.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War_Veterans_Memorial
一直以来,在讨论朝鲜战争中“联合国军”的伤亡数字时,很多网友都会引用这个刻在
纪念碑上的数字作为证据,来说明“联合国军”的伤亡超过200万其中死亡就达62.88万
人。甚至很多美国人也以为这个包括62.88万人死亡在内的200... 阅读全帖
b********n
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来自主题: Military版 - 打朝鲜,美国至少死15万
We have 28,000 troops in South Korea right now. Casualties will be sky high
amongst these troops when the North shells and attacks the South in
retaliation for the US bombings. Since the North can field a 5 million man
army, we will then have to send, quickly, massive reinforcements.
We will have the entire active duty US military in this war, including all
of the infantry. And even then we will have to call up much of the reserve,
if not all. And if China enters, forget about it. Reinstitu... 阅读全帖
C**o
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来自主题: Military版 - 打朝鲜,美国至少死15万
转载请注明出处,憋臭不要脸
盹盹盹
[在 beijingren (to thine own self be true) 的大作中提到:]
:We have 28,000 troops in South Korea right now. Casualties will be sky
high amongst these troops when the North shells and attacks the South in
:retaliation for the US bombings. Since the North can field a 5 million man
army, we will then have to send, quickly, massive reinforcements.
:We will have the entire active duty US military in this war, including all
:of the infantry. And even then we will have to call up much of ... 阅读全帖

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August: Soviet counterattack
BT-7 Tanks in the Battle of Khalkhin Gol
BT-7 tank with infantry mounted to bring them into combat
With war apparently imminent in Europe, Zhukov planned a major offensive on
20 August to clear the Japanese from the Khalkhin Gol region and end the
fighting.[41] Zhukov, using a fleet of at least 4,000 trucks (IJA officers
with hindsight dispute this, saying he instead used 10,000 to 20,000 motor
vehicles) transporting supplies from the nearest base in Chita (600
kilom... 阅读全帖
r*****y
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来自主题: Military2版 - 凤凰卫视开播长津湖战役全记录
到底是一个7团?还是仅7团3营?造成heavy casualty的究竟仅是志愿军火力?还是包
括严寒?不到600人的伤亡就叫 heavy casualty的话志愿军每天都在遭受heavy
casualty.
t**********t
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来自主题: Military2版 - 凤凰卫视开播长津湖战役全记录
呵呵,我前面说的7团遭受heavy casualty跟7团3营+65团一个连遭受heavy casualty根
本就是两场战斗。您把两场战斗混到一起有意思吗?
还是那句话,heavy casualty不是我的用词,我是转用Clay Blair的书上的原文。您大
可去找他吵架。呵呵。

7
s*******2
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that's Sun Li Ren, ok?
战斗损失2万, where is the proof, and how many casualties from battles
opposed by Du, how many casualties from the irrational retreat he insisted?
Why Sun Liren's troop disobeyed the order from DU and got ZERO casualty?

万。
s**********e
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来自主题: Military2版 - 537点7高地北山的得失
美军的战史有如下总结:
Thus, after six weeks of hard fighting, the UNC forces controlled a portion
of Sniper Ridge and none of Triangle Hill. The original two-battalion attack
lasting five days anal costing 200 casualties had drawn in over two
divisions and cost over 9,000 casualties. Although estimates of
Chinese losses ran to over 19,000 men, the enemy had no shortage of manpower
. The Chinese time and time again had shown themselves willing to incur
heavy casualties in order to hold on to key terrain fe... 阅读全帖
r*****y
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坐落在美国首都华盛顿特区的朝鲜战争退役老兵纪念碑(Korean War Veterans
Memorial),每天都吸引着来自世界各地成千上万的游客。在该纪念碑的石碑上,刻着
美国和联合国在战争中的伤亡数字,如下:
Dead — United States: 54246, United Nations: 628833.
Wounded — United States: 103284, United Nations: 1064453.
Captured — United States: 7140, United Nations: 92970.
Missing — United States: 8177, United Nations: 470267.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War_Veterans_Memorial
一直以来,在讨论朝鲜战争中“联合国军”的伤亡数字时,很多网友都会引用这个刻在
纪念碑上的数字作为证据,来说明“联合国军”的伤亡超过200万其中死亡就达62.88万
人。甚至很多美国人也以为这个包括62.88万人死亡在内的200... 阅读全帖
l****z
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“随着在坎大哈的战斗即将结束,加拿大士兵离开这片土地,不要忘记我们加拿大人没
有帝国梦,我们不贪恋其他国家的财富,不为自私的原因发动战争”
Canada’s Harper Makes Afghanistan Stop to Mark End of Military Mission
By Theophilos Argitis - May 30, 2011 3:10 PM ET
Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper made a surprise stop in Afghanistan
to mark the end of the country’s decade-long military mission in the
country, and pay tribute to fallen soldiers.
Harper made his fourth trip to the Asian country less than a month after his
third consecutive election victory, visiting ... 阅读全帖
l****z
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Angela Gonzales
Property and casualty insurers in Arizona showed a decrease in written
premiums for the fifth year in a row to $7.3 billion in 2011, according to
the latest economic impact study by the Arizona Insurance Council.
The property and casualty insurance industry — which covers commercial,
home and auto risks — has more than 27,000 insurance professionals in
Arizona representing more than 960 companies with $1.3 trillion in assets.
The AIC reported a slight decrease in losses of $5.6 b... 阅读全帖
e********2
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Dear xxx,
We contacted you a few months ago after seeing your resume online and I
wanted to follow up to see if your career needs have changed. I feel you
have what it takes to be a successful Insurance Sales Agent and build a
rewarding career with us at Bankers Life and Casualty Company.
Our organization is growing. As a result, we are recruiting candidates who
are interested in a career in insurance and the desire to make a difference
in people's lives. At Bankers, we offer:
Unlimited inco... 阅读全帖
w****r
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大侠,分类都分好了,求神签
# Basic Materials, Agricultural Chemicals
AGU Agrium Inc.
AVD American Vanguard Corp.
CAGC China Agritech Inc.
CF CF Industries Holdings, Inc.
CGA China Green Agriculture, Inc.
CMP Compass Minerals International
COIN Converted Organics Inc.
IPI Intrepid Potash, Inc.
MON Monsanto Co.
MOS Mosaic Co.
NOEC New Oriental Energy & Chemical
POT Potas... 阅读全帖
l****z
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【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: lczlcz (lcz), 信区: USANews
标 题: Arizona insurance premiums on the decline
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Apr 1 12:54:52 2013, 美东)
Angela Gonzales
Property and casualty insurers in Arizona showed a decrease in written
premiums for the fifth year in a row to $7.3 billion in 2011, according to
the latest economic impact study by the Arizona Insurance Council.
The property and casualty insurance industry — which covers commercial,
home and auto risks — has more than 27,000 insuran... 阅读全帖
G****e
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来自主题: WaterWorld版 - The Darker Side Of God
The Darker Side Of God
If you ask Christians to describe their quasi-chosen god of worship,
you’ll often hear such descriptors as “wonderful” and “loving.” This
choice of selective designation seems commonplace within the Christian
community. In fact, most churches ignore the Old Testament all together so
that the members feel comfortable propagating this view. Fueled by such
blatant omission, this lengthy chapter will fill the void by offering a look
at the volume of horrendous acts perfo... 阅读全帖
G****e
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来自主题: Belief版 - The Darker Side Of God (转载)
【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: GoBlue (Wolverines), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: The Darker Side Of God
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jul 12 13:10:33 2014, 美东)
The Darker Side Of God
If you ask Christians to describe their quasi-chosen god of worship,
you’ll often hear such descriptors as “wonderful” and “loving.” This
choice of selective designation seems commonplace within the Christian
community. In fact, most churches ignore the Old Testament all together so
that the members feel comfortable propagatin... 阅读全帖
r*****y
发帖数: 53800
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来自主题: Mod_CHN_Hist版 - 华盛顿韩战纪念碑UN伤亡总数分析
坐落在美国首都华盛顿特区的朝鲜战争退役老兵纪念碑(Korean War Veterans
Memorial),每天都吸引着来自世界各地成千上万的游客。在该纪念碑的石碑上,刻着
美国和联合国在战争中的伤亡数字,如下:
Dead — United States: 54246, United Nations: 628833.
Wounded — United States: 103284, United Nations: 1064453.
Captured — United States: 7140, United Nations: 92970.
Missing — United States: 8177, United Nations: 470267.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War_Veterans_Memorial
一直以来,在讨论朝鲜战争中“联合国军”的伤亡数字时,很多网友都会引用这个刻在
纪念碑上的数字作为证据,来说明“联合国军”的伤亡超过200万其中死亡就达62.88万
人。甚至很多美国人也以为这个包括62.88万人死亡在内的200... 阅读全帖
p**********d
发帖数: 7918
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【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: powerforward (抽敏感詞的筋), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: 天朝又發威了:否決制裁敘利亞議案
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Feb 4 12:37:06 2012, 美东)
中國人民的老朋友感謝中國人民。
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/05/world/middleeast/syria-homs-d
February 4, 2012
Deadly Attack on Syrian City Adds to Push for U.N. to Act
By NEIL MacFARQUHAR and ANTHONY SHADID
UNITED NATIONS — A United Nations Security Council effort to end the
violence in Syria ended in acrimony and a veto by Russia and China on
Saturday, hours after the Sy... 阅读全帖
W*****2
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来自主题: ChinaNews版 - 中国是否正在走向法西斯主义?
http://bbs.wenxuecity.com/currentevent/451255.html
美国已经在法西斯国家的边缘了
2012-02-20 12:42:28
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012/02/20/silencing-the-critic
Silencing The Critics
by Paul Craig Roberts, 20 February 2012
In 2010 the FBI invaded the homes of peace activists in several states and
seized personal possessions in what the FBI–the lead orchestrator of fake
“terrorist plots”–called an investigation of “activities concerning the
material support of terrorism.”
Subpoenas were issued to compel ant... 阅读全帖
c***h
发帖数: 1862
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吉尼斯世界纪录中的中国三年大饥荒
《吉尼斯世界纪录大全》是举世公认的权威书籍。中国国家图书馆有原版的
GUINNESS WORLD RECORDS 2001,如果翻译成中文就是《2001吉尼斯世界纪录大全》,
在该书第185页有这么一段文字:
MOST PEOPLE KILLED IN A FAMINE
Between 1959 and 1961,approximately 40 million people died of
starvation in China.

把这段英文翻译成中文就是:
饿死人最多的一次饥荒
在1959年到1961年之间,在中国大约有4000万人死于饥饿。
1994 年红旗出版社出版、吕廷煜所著《中华人民共和国历史纪实》一书,在大饥
荒一文中说:“1959年至1961年的非正常死亡和减少出生人口数,大约在 4000万人左
右。”廖盖隆任中共党史研究室副主任,有接触机密资料的权力,他在《炎黄春秋》
2000年第三期曾撰文说,大跃进中国非正常死亡人数是 4000万人。1993年,上海大学
金辉教授以国家... 阅读全帖
s*****t
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American Battle Monuments Commission 到底用的谁公布的数据?
好像不是National Personnel Records Center公布的数据吧。ABMC用的好像是The U.S.
Bureau of the Census and the Social Science Research Council公布的数据。
National Personnel Records Center在The 1973 Fire前是否公布过Korean War
Casualty Figures?是多少?
DOD是在检查Surgeon General的原始数据时,发现问题的。
http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/sgoffice.htm
http://www.archives.gov/facilities/mo/st_louis/military_personnel_records/fire
_1973.html
Army Personnel discharged是什么意思?范围有多大?
还有Korean Conflict Casualties
w****1
发帖数: 4931
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You need to relearn the history of Korean War. The Chinese army was
successful against the US initially, but
after MacArthur was dismissed and replaced by Ridgway, the US was clearly on
the winning side. The Chinese
army suffered huge casualties towards the end of the war. Throughout the war
, the Chinese army suffered
more than 10 times the casualties of the US army, and the result was a
stalemate.
r*****y
发帖数: 53800
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来自主题: History版 - 历史教科书务须求真求实
Tel el Eisa的战斗是从7月8日开始,英军进攻Tel el Eisa随后德军反击,根本不是7
月1日到3日的德军进攻阶段。你也就会玩这种偷换概念的小儿科把戏了。
Tel el Eisa
On 8 July, Auchinleck ordered the new XXX Corps commander—Lieutenant-
General William Ramsden—to capture the low ridges at Tel el Eisa and Tel el
Makh Khad and then to push mobile battle groups south toward Deir el Shein
and raiding parties west toward the airfields at El Daba. Meanwhile, XIII
Corps would prevent the Axis from moving troops north to reinforce the
coastal sector.[42] Ramsden tasked th... 阅读全帖
f*******5
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Yangtse Incident
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Amethyst_(F116)
On 20 April 1949, HMS Amethyst was on her way from Shanghai to Nanking (now
Nanjing) on the Yangtse (Yangtze) River to replace HMS Consort, which was
standing as guard ship for the British Embassy there during the Chinese
Civil War between the Kuomintang (KMT) and the Chinese Communists. According
to the British Navy, at around 08:31, after a burst of small arms fire, a
People's Liberation Army (PLA) field gun battery on the north... 阅读全帖
b*s
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Of the 1,155 U-boats Germany sent into combat, 725 had been sunk in the
longest battle of the war. Lasting nearly six years, over 35,000 German
sailors had put to sea, with 28,744 never returning – a death rate of 82
percent, the highest casualty rate of any armed forces of any conflict in
the history of modern war. Yet in this appalling casualty rate, there was
never any shortage of men to enlist in the U-boat service, and until the
very last day, the men of the U-boat service stood ready to pu... 阅读全帖
r*****y
发帖数: 53800
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伤亡就是casualty,而casualty是可以包括战病的。
x**n
发帖数: 1936
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US and South Korea push ahead with war games
YEONPYEONG ISLAND, South Korea – The United States and South Korea prepared
for war games Sunday as South Koreans demanded vengeance over a deadly
North Korean artillery bombardment that has raised fears of more clashes
between the bitter rivals.
The North, meanwhile, worked to justify one of the worst attacks on South
Korean territory since the 1950-53 Korean War. Four South Koreans, including
two civilians, died after the North rained artillery on t... 阅读全帖
I********l
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X Corps: The cost of this withdrawal is 718 killed or died of wounds; 3508
wounded in action; and 7,313 non-battle casualties, primarily from frostbite.
请解释casualties是冻死还是冻伤。
I********l
发帖数: 8702
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谁跟你说的长个冻疮就算减员?
美军资料是说,7313 casualties,长个冻疮就算casualties,也未免太低估美军战斗
力了。
c**i
发帖数: 6973
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来自主题: Military版 - 魏电工向主子揭发朗朗的阴谋!
(1)
(a) In any event, Americans won 上甘岭战役 Battle of Triangle Hill
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Triangle_Hill
(Oct 14-Nov 25, 1952; Strength: UN Infantry Unknown, China Infantry 50,000 [
8]; Casualties and losses: US 365 killed 1,174 wounded 1 captured [10],
China 4,838 killed 6,691 wounded [13];
The main combatants were two United Nations infantry divisions, with
additional support from the United States Air Force, against elements of the
15th and 12th Corps of the People's Republic... 阅读全帖
r*****y
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您去查查casualty这个词的定义就知道了,疾病逃兵等都是包括在casualty里的。基本
就是“减员”的意思。
差了1/4的伤亡,还差别不大?
r*****y
发帖数: 53800
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呵呵,那你怎么解释陆战队战史里长津湖casualties包括非战斗减员?所以说至少某些
时候casualty是可能包括非战斗减员的。而非战斗减员可以比较合理解释9000和1500+
4500的差值。
美军一向是非战斗减员大于战斗减员,整个韩战美军战斗减员14万人,非战斗减员46万
人。韩军的战伤和非战伤都是20几万。志愿军的病减员45万人次,超过伤员38万人次。
上甘岭战役期间联合国军有2-3000人的非战斗减员非常正常。
p**********d
发帖数: 7918
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来自主题: Military版 - 安理會通過軍事介入利比亞決議
March 17, 2011
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/18/world/africa/18nations.html?_
U.N. Approves Airstrikes to Halt Attacks by Qaddafi Forces
By DAN BILEFSKY and KAREEM FAHIM
UNITED NATIONS — The United Nations Security Council approved a measure on
Thursday authorizing “all necessary measures” to protect Libyan civilians
from harm at the hands of forces loyal to Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi.
The measure allows not only a no-fly zone but effectively any measures short
of a ground invasion to halt attacks... 阅读全帖
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