f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 1 limped SB vs. BB，俺是那种会拿AT/AJ bet pot, 3 bet, call over shove的人吗？
？？
bottom 2就不要发神经了。 | s*********r
发帖数: 4210 | | W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 3 when you have top 2, bb will have bottom set. life of most poker players.. | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 4 not likely, for 22:
1) BB would raise x% of time pre flop, knowing 22 has little chance to
improve post;
2) even BB is weak pre, and hits a 1/7.5 flop with a 2, he'll slow play y%
of time when he sees interest from SB and dry board;
3) BB would under-estimate SB's hand z% of time, after all, HU play.
total x+y+z% makes top 2 a monster here, hehe.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: when you have top 2, bb will have bottom set. life of most poker players..
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 5 我在和运气不好的swthreefour 说呢.. FT... | g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 6 运气这个东西真不好说，每次我都觉得领先，后来发现是严重落后 except the last
flush draw hand:
2 days ago, I had following hands, lost 4.5 buy in half a hour.
1. KK set to AA set dry board, all in after flop
2. 99 set to QQ set dry board, all in after flop
3. AA full to 55 quads, all in after flop
4. AK, TPTK to donk, all in after flop
,lost to his baby flush draw.
took me 4 hours to get everthing back and break even... | W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 7 运气很多时间并不体现在ev 里
转一个fcf 的东西.. 说得很对..
"有很多牌是运气好你可能自己根本不知道或没有注意到， 比如
* 你bluff的时候正好出了好的bluff card， board， 对手要bluff时正好board,
card 不好
* 你拿大牌时自己的位置形象比较好， 正好可以赢大的 pot
* 对手的 draw 总是 miss
* ....
给你说一手我在LV打的牌， 5-10， 1500 买入， 已经玩了好一阵了， 我的形象非常
laggy, 我桌上大概有4k+， cover整个table。 一手KK 在BTN上， utg玩的很差玩家
raise 到30，他很少raise, 一般都是limp， CO 3bet 他到150， CO也是一个玩的一般
的玩家， 一般不会3bet, 而且150也算是很大的3bet了， 他们一般3bet也就到90-120.
UTG和CO都是有3000-3500左右， 我在BTN只是call (当时就害怕他们两个里有一个有
AA了， 想看看UTG怎么反应）， utg push allin 3k+, CO fold， 我想 | W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 8 理解了运气我们才能对自己打法有更准确的评估. 这对我们进步太重要了.. | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 9 totally agree, a lot of times we know we're "a little" lucky, but don't
really analyze hands/plays any deeper, just move on to next hand.
on the other hand, you hear ppl complaining how badly they run everyday. you
rarely hear such a hand:
"my TAG opponent bets preflop, c-bets big post, .... check raises me on such
and such turn, and makes a call on river... i get a totally wrong read on
him and forget about ranges for a second, his bet size should tell me XXX,
and his river aggression is this a
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 运气很多时间并不体现在ev 里
: 转一个fcf 的东西.. 说得很对..
: "有很多牌是运气好你可能自己根本不知道或没有注意到， 比如
: * 你bluff的时候正好出了好的bluff card， board， 对手要bluff时正好board,
: card 不好
: * 你拿大牌时自己的位置形象比较好， 正好可以赢大的 pot
: * 对手的 draw 总是 miss
: * ....
: 给你说一手我在LV打的牌， 5-10， 1500 买入， 已经玩了好一阵了， 我的形象非常
: laggy, 我桌上大概有4k+， cover整个table。 一手KK 在BTN上， utg玩的很差玩家
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 10 I had the a hand live last time. Where I think I had the worst sequence
of event.
1$/2$ live.
Co raise 12X fairly loose raiser preflop. button call. I am at bb with
pocket Qs. i 3 bet to 40$. co fold button all in 120$ total.. I had no
choice and called. button have pocket As.
I think this is exactly opposite of what happened to fcf's folded KK. If co
didn't raise so big pre with marginal hand. button's stack is a little
deeper. button actually raise instead of wanting more people in the pot ( | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 11 fcf has 300+ BB, way too deep to commit KK in such situations, and i believe
he plays very profitable in other better spots.
co
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: I had the a hand live last time. Where I think I had the worst sequence
: of event.
: 1$/2$ live.
: Co raise 12X fairly loose raiser preflop. button call. I am at bb with
: pocket Qs. i 3 bet to 40$. co fold button all in 120$ total.. I had no
: choice and called. button have pocket As.
: I think this is exactly opposite of what happened to fcf's folded KK. If co
: didn't raise so big pre with marginal hand. button's stack is a little
: deeper. button actually raise instead of wanting more people in the pot (
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 12 No question about that. I am just trying to show because of the sequence of
event, different outcome could happen.
believe
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: fcf has 300+ BB, way too deep to commit KK in such situations, and i believe
: he plays very profitable in other better spots.
:
: co
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