I****a
发帖数: 407 | 1 问一下大家找合同律师有多重要。我看了看自己收到的合同，tail coverage is
provided and "not to compete" clause is reasonable，不知道还有什么tricky的冬
冬missing，找工书上列的各项陷阱好像都没有.医院规模不算小，好像大部分东西大家
都没区别。
今天晚上去看 mission impossible, 期待中。。。
节日快乐！ |
c**********m
发帖数: 2088 | 2 合同 is usually general. there is nothing to challenge.
everybody gets the same 合同.
you waste money to hire a lawyer.
【在 I****a 的大作中提到】
: 问一下大家找合同律师有多重要。我看了看自己收到的合同，tail coverage is
: provided and "not to compete" clause is reasonable，不知道还有什么tricky的冬
: 冬missing，找工书上列的各项陷阱好像都没有.医院规模不算小，好像大部分东西大家
: 都没区别。
: 今天晚上去看 mission impossible, 期待中。。。
: 节日快乐！
|
f******w
发帖数: 10267 | 3 sorry, prof, this is medical profession, everyone hires a lawyer to go over
their contracts. :) Our contracts are not necessarily the same, they might
appear to be the same.
【在 c**********m 的大作中提到】
: 合同 is usually general. there is nothing to challenge.
: everybody gets the same 合同.
: you waste money to hire a lawyer.
|
j**i
发帖数: 57 | 4 didn't know about tail before until I consulted with a lawyer. Not to
compete clause too. Other than that, I don't think anything else can't be
that tricky.
one more thing. if you go for outpt/traditional, ask about partnership and
how long salary guarantee is. |
a*********d
发帖数: 2763 | 5 not to compete具体怎么说的？在有的州，这是不允许的。
你是hospital employee 还是group? 是RVU based还是以后走partnership，如果RVU
base又没有 bonus, 如果走partnership,你要buy in么，如果buy in，以后走的时候怎
么算？
如果你要是走人，要不要赔钱。
丑话都要说在前面，要做好一年内走人的准备.
这是你面试的第几家？最好的积累经验的方式，就是多面试，多跟不同形式的practice
谈，看各种利弊。新毕业耳朵根软，比较容易sell low.
第一份工作，还是一个找个律师，这点钱就算浪费了也比以后吃个苍蝇强。要找工作地
所在州的律师，每个州法律会很不同。找律师要多问问口碑，专门管医学法律这块的。
可以多问几家，价格差别会很大。
【在 I****a 的大作中提到】
: 问一下大家找合同律师有多重要。我看了看自己收到的合同，tail coverage is
: provided and "not to compete" clause is reasonable，不知道还有什么tricky的冬
: 冬missing，找工书上列的各项陷阱好像都没有.医院规模不算小，好像大部分东西大家
: 都没区别。
: 今天晚上去看 mission impossible, 期待中。。。
: 节日快乐！
|
A*******s
发帖数: 9638 | 6 Very well said。
我换了一次工作， 但还是有很多事没有cover。 比方说， outside income， 我的
reading fee， outside consulting fee， etc 以前都得给clinic， 然后才能拿一个
percentage， 如果加盟前说清楚了， 100%是我的。 这些只有好的律师才能给你cover
上。 付点小钱， 得到的好处大了去了。
practice
【在 a*********d 的大作中提到】
: not to compete具体怎么说的？在有的州，这是不允许的。
: 你是hospital employee 还是group? 是RVU based还是以后走partnership，如果RVU
: base又没有 bonus, 如果走partnership,你要buy in么，如果buy in，以后走的时候怎
: 么算？
: 如果你要是走人，要不要赔钱。
: 丑话都要说在前面，要做好一年内走人的准备.
: 这是你面试的第几家？最好的积累经验的方式，就是多面试，多跟不同形式的practice
: 谈，看各种利弊。新毕业耳朵根软，比较容易sell low.
: 第一份工作，还是一个找个律师，这点钱就算浪费了也比以后吃个苍蝇强。要找工作地
: 所在州的律师，每个州法律会很不同。找律师要多问问口碑，专门管医学法律这块的。
|
a*********d
发帖数: 2763 | 7 忘记加一句，很多大学医学院有免费的法律咨询，可以跟GME office打听一下 |
f******w
发帖数: 10267 | 8 tons of info in this thread, can banzhu/banfu put it into the jinghuaqu? |
N*G
发帖数: 217 | 9 如果tail insurance不cover，自己买大楷多少钱？ 对primary care来说。 |
A*******s
发帖数: 9638 | 10 取决于你工作了多少年， 有多少病人， 一般来说几万块吧。
【在 N*G 的大作中提到】
: 如果tail insurance不cover，自己买大楷多少钱？ 对primary care来说。
|
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f******w
发帖数: 10267 | 11 or if you do delivery or not..... that thought makes my head spin.
【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】
: 取决于你工作了多少年， 有多少病人， 一般来说几万块吧。
|
I****a
发帖数: 407 | 12 Happy Holiday all! I have not logged in for some time. All above input is
highly appreciated.
The practice is hospital employed, there won't be partnership involved to my
knowledge. The salary is good for 2 years. I am also eligible to enter RVU
based compensation method from day 1 so I will get greater of the 2 in the
first 2 years but after that it is purely RVU based. This is hem/onc field.
I calculated that I probably need accumulate around 4000 working RVU to get
to the base salary and it is on par with MGMA median work RVU based on my
research. My "not to compete" clause is 1 year 7 mile restriction which I
think it is reasonable, the practice is located in a metro suburb. |
A*******s
发帖数: 9638 | 13 Sounds reasonable。
先工作两年再说， 不过我建议你今后如果有机会， 尽量摆脱hospital， 加入private
group。 用一句老话来概括就是：不识庐山真面目，只缘身在此山中
my
RVU
.
get
【在 I****a 的大作中提到】
: Happy Holiday all! I have not logged in for some time. All above input is
: highly appreciated.
: The practice is hospital employed, there won't be partnership involved to my
: knowledge. The salary is good for 2 years. I am also eligible to enter RVU
: based compensation method from day 1 so I will get greater of the 2 in the
: first 2 years but after that it is purely RVU based. This is hem/onc field.
: I calculated that I probably need accumulate around 4000 working RVU to get
: to the base salary and it is on par with MGMA median work RVU based on my
: research. My "not to compete" clause is 1 year 7 mile restriction which I
: think it is reasonable, the practice is located in a metro suburb.
|
I****a
发帖数: 407 | |
c**********m
发帖数: 2088 | 15 起薪多少？
【在 I****a 的大作中提到】
: 是啊，现如今好工作不好找，以后骑马找马吧。
|
A*******s
发帖数: 9638 | 16 Starting salary for oncology is 300,000.
http://www.jobshadow.com/interview-with-an-oncologist/
【在 c**********m 的大作中提到】
: 起薪多少？
|
f******w
发帖数: 10267 | 17 说出来您得流泪了。。。。
【在 c**********m 的大作中提到】
: 起薪多少？
|
c**********m
发帖数: 2088 | 18 damn, 看来我任重道远啊！ way to go!
【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】
: Starting salary for oncology is 300,000.
: http://www.jobshadow.com/interview-with-an-oncologist/
|
c**********m
发帖数: 2088 | 19 没事，我忍着不流泪。无非是继续住4000尺的房子，我不眼红住1万尺的房子。。。
知足长乐
【在 f******w 的大作中提到】
: 说出来您得流泪了。。。。
|
C*****D
发帖数: 1299 | 20 我的经验。一定要找个律师，且要做过你专业的。
private practice eveything is negotiable. Don't assume your employer will be
fair to you, you got to be very careful about: dismiss policy, conditions
for partner, bonus share, buy in, tail coverage, salary, benefit (some has 3
month waiting period, who cover the cobra), how to use sick leave,
moonlight, etc. I had a contract with more than 30 pages with everything
itemized.
Academic usually give you a one page paper, and all policy and benifits are
uniform to all employee, but diffrent palces have different policies. You
have to download faculty handbook before you make a move if you have
multiple options.
Don't assume everything is equal and what your senior told you. Benifits
changes every year, you have to read the one apply to you only.
【在 I****a 的大作中提到】
: 问一下大家找合同律师有多重要。我看了看自己收到的合同，tail coverage is
: provided and "not to compete" clause is reasonable，不知道还有什么tricky的冬
: 冬missing，找工书上列的各项陷阱好像都没有.医院规模不算小，好像大部分东西大家
: 都没区别。
: 今天晚上去看 mission impossible, 期待中。。。
: 节日快乐！
|
|
|
c**********m
发帖数: 2088 | 21 academics usually have the best healthy/dental/life insurance policy in the
world. nothing to complain.
be
3
are
【在 C*****D 的大作中提到】
: 我的经验。一定要找个律师，且要做过你专业的。
: private practice eveything is negotiable. Don't assume your employer will be
: fair to you, you got to be very careful about: dismiss policy, conditions
: for partner, bonus share, buy in, tail coverage, salary, benefit (some has 3
: month waiting period, who cover the cobra), how to use sick leave,
: moonlight, etc. I had a contract with more than 30 pages with everything
: itemized.
: Academic usually give you a one page paper, and all policy and benifits are
: uniform to all employee, but diffrent palces have different policies. You
: have to download faculty handbook before you make a move if you have
|
C*****D
发帖数: 1299 | 22 in general you might be right. But there is a big difference among different
big hospitals: copay, out-of net-work pay, premium etc.
Some private groups can cover all out of pocket payment
the
【在 c**********m 的大作中提到】
: academics usually have the best healthy/dental/life insurance policy in the
: world. nothing to complain.
:
: be
: 3
: are
|
c**********m
发帖数: 2088 | 23 my dental coverage is unlimited and i have extended healthy insurance
worldwide coverage. my life insurance is 1M. They contribute $7000/year for
my extended health/dental/life insurance policies.
different
【在 C*****D 的大作中提到】
: in general you might be right. But there is a big difference among different
: big hospitals: copay, out-of net-work pay, premium etc.
: Some private groups can cover all out of pocket payment
:
: the
|
A*******s
发帖数: 9638 | 24 This is the best post I have read so far regarding a contract. I highly
recommend to save it, and read it before you sign the contract.
be
3
are
【在 C*****D 的大作中提到】
: 我的经验。一定要找个律师，且要做过你专业的。
: private practice eveything is negotiable. Don't assume your employer will be
: fair to you, you got to be very careful about: dismiss policy, conditions
: for partner, bonus share, buy in, tail coverage, salary, benefit (some has 3
: month waiting period, who cover the cobra), how to use sick leave,
: moonlight, etc. I had a contract with more than 30 pages with everything
: itemized.
: Academic usually give you a one page paper, and all policy and benifits are
: uniform to all employee, but diffrent palces have different policies. You
: have to download faculty handbook before you make a move if you have
|
C*****D
发帖数: 1299 | 25 Your place sounds better than most places. Can you tell me the name of the
hospital? I heard many California system still have good benifits. Maybe
should think move there. Seriously.
for
【在 c**********m 的大作中提到】
: my dental coverage is unlimited and i have extended healthy insurance
: worldwide coverage. my life insurance is 1M. They contribute $7000/year for
: my extended health/dental/life insurance policies.
:
: different
|
A*******s
发帖数: 9638 | 26 hehe, don't take this MM seriously. She is he, the professor of statistics.
Do you still remember him?
【在 C*****D 的大作中提到】
: Your place sounds better than most places. Can you tell me the name of the
: hospital? I heard many California system still have good benifits. Maybe
: should think move there. Seriously.
:
: for
|
l*****w
发帖数: 344 | 27 according to "The Ultimate Guide to Finding the Right Job After Residency",
you need a lawyer to go through your contract.
You can search and download the pdf version of it. |
I****a
发帖数: 407 | 28 Yes, I have this book, it is well written.
,
【在 l*****w 的大作中提到】
: according to "The Ultimate Guide to Finding the Right Job After Residency",
: you need a lawyer to go through your contract.
: You can search and download the pdf version of it.
|
I****a
发帖数: 407 | 29 Yes, very useful indeed.
【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】
: This is the best post I have read so far regarding a contract. I highly
: recommend to save it, and read it before you sign the contract.
:
: be
: 3
: are
|
R*******t
发帖数: 367 | 30 I negotiated off the non-compete clause, which means I can get another job
close to home if I want.
The best way is to call the state medical board ( the state you will
practice in) and they will refer you to law firms handling medical
profession contracts.
【在 I****a 的大作中提到】
: 问一下大家找合同律师有多重要。我看了看自己收到的合同，tail coverage is
: provided and "not to compete" clause is reasonable，不知道还有什么tricky的冬
: 冬missing，找工书上列的各项陷阱好像都没有.医院规模不算小，好像大部分东西大家
: 都没区别。
: 今天晚上去看 mission impossible, 期待中。。。
: 节日快乐！
|
|
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A*******s
发帖数: 9638 | 31 Good for you! This is the best scenario.
【在 R*******t 的大作中提到】
: I negotiated off the non-compete clause, which means I can get another job
: close to home if I want.
: The best way is to call the state medical board ( the state you will
: practice in) and they will refer you to law firms handling medical
: profession contracts.
|
R*******t
发帖数: 367 | 32 yep the non-solicitation remained on the final contract, but it is ok since
it doesn't really matter with my specialty.
If a group wants to get the best candidates and encourage loyalty, the best
thing they can do is to give very satisfying pay and benefits, instead of
punishment or any prevention to "protect" themselves with not covering tail
or non-compete clause. Decent democratic groups are willing to accommodate
if they are sincere enough.
I would also suggest paying attention to the bonus, as if it is conditional,
before partnership. If it is not written on paper, it is not guaranteed to
happen. Put everything in writing before signing anything.
【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】
: Good for you! This is the best scenario.
|
R*******t
发帖数: 367 | 33 4000wrvu, is it a full time job?
my
RVU
.
get
【在 I****a 的大作中提到】
: Happy Holiday all! I have not logged in for some time. All above input is
: highly appreciated.
: The practice is hospital employed, there won't be partnership involved to my
: knowledge. The salary is good for 2 years. I am also eligible to enter RVU
: based compensation method from day 1 so I will get greater of the 2 in the
: first 2 years but after that it is purely RVU based. This is hem/onc field.
: I calculated that I probably need accumulate around 4000 working RVU to get
: to the base salary and it is on par with MGMA median work RVU based on my
: research. My "not to compete" clause is 1 year 7 mile restriction which I
: think it is reasonable, the practice is located in a metro suburb.
|
I****a
发帖数: 407 | 34 It is, the contract says 97 dollars pays to salary per working RVU earned.
【在 R*******t 的大作中提到】
: 4000wrvu, is it a full time job?
:
: my
: RVU
: .
: get
|
I****a
发帖数: 407 | 35 Will do, that is a good idea.
【在 R*******t 的大作中提到】
: I negotiated off the non-compete clause, which means I can get another job
: close to home if I want.
: The best way is to call the state medical board ( the state you will
: practice in) and they will refer you to law firms handling medical
: profession contracts.
|
R*******t
发帖数: 367 | 36 I think WRVU varies a lot with different fields now, but aren't they
supposed to be standardized? hmmm
【在 I****a 的大作中提到】
: It is, the contract says 97 dollars pays to salary per working RVU earned.
|
I****a
发帖数: 407 | 37 It varies chronologically and geographically to my understanding.
The new mission impossible movie is amazing, it has some comedy element on
top of super exciting action. However I still think The bourne trilogy is
the best. |
I****a
发帖数: 407 | 38 It varies chronologically and geographically to my understanding.
The new mission impossible movie is amazing, it has some comedy element on
top of super exciting action. However I still think The bourne trilogy is
the best. |
R*******t
发帖数: 367 | 39 Just chronologically and geographically different? I just realized I get
paid much less for each WRVU I generate. A half of yours. That makes me
wonder if WRVUs are all the same in different specialties? Wondering...
Tom cruise still has it!
【在 I****a 的大作中提到】
: It varies chronologically and geographically to my understanding.
: The new mission impossible movie is amazing, it has some comedy element on
: top of super exciting action. However I still think The bourne trilogy is
: the best.
|
a*********d
发帖数: 2763 | 40 2011 Single Specialty Multispecialty
RVUs $/RVU RVUs $/RVU
Allergy/immunology [*] [*] 3,099 55.86
Anesthesiology 9,597 28.62 [*] [*]
Cardiology: invasive 8,069 46.13 6,411 45.27
Cardiology: inv.-interv. 8,897 45.29 7,533 38.98
Cardiology: noninvasive 5,407 60.25 5,556 47.94
Critical care [*] [*] 4,073 38.46
Dermatology [*] [*] 5,221 37.67
Emergency medicine [*] [*] 3,972 38.08
Endocrinology [*] [*] 3,745 41.95
Family practice w/OB 5,907 30.41 3,683 39.26
Family practice w/o OB 3,786 36.26 3,747 37.56
Gastroenterology 6,765 39.01 5,715 39.56
Hematology/oncology 5,033 80.32 2,880 58.99
Infectious disease [*] [*] 4,508 35.42
Internal medicine 3,350 39.04 3,707 38.83
IM: hospitalist [*] [*] 3,674 39.14
Neonatology [*] [*] 4,470 36.18
Nephrology [*] [*] 4,486 39.11
Neurology [*] [*] 3,818 40.31
OB/GYN 9,135 24.00 6,055 37.57
Occupational medicine [*] [*] 2,492 65.07
Ophthalmology 10,307 24.43 6,159 36.21
Orthopedic surgery 8,395 37.85 6,736 45.34
Ortho: foot & ankle 7,593 36.20 [*] [*]
Ortho: hand & upper ext. 7,621 39.51 [*] [*]
Ortho: spine 10,455 46.76 [*] [*]
Ortho: sports medicine 7,104 59.84 [*] [*]
Otorhinolaryngology [*] [*] 5,408 42.01
Pathology: anatomic [*] [*] 3,220 54.13
Pediatrics 4,386 32.35 3,783 35.79
Ped: cardiology [*] [*] 3,315 62.46
Ped: hematology/oncology [*] [*] 2,895 48.87
Physiatry 4,684 46.70 3,758 44.47
Psychiatry [*] [*] 3,272 45.37
Pulmonary medicine [*] [*] 4,289 41.17
Pulm med: critical [*] [*] 5,267 39.35
Radiation oncology [*] [*] 7,042 37.09
Radiology: diag/inv 7,703 56.47 5,189 50.05
Radiology: diag/noninv 6,494 41.94 4,981 46.60
Rheumatology [*] [*] 3,750 40.76
Surg: general 7,375 24.19 5,181 42.22
Surg: cardiovascular [*] [*] 8,710 54.49
Surg: neurological 7,863 54.64 6,745 45.65
Surg: pediatric [*] [*] 3,327 80.44
Surg: plastic [*] [*] 5,253 45.62
Surg: vascular 7,390 33.24 6,779 38.80
Urology [*] [*] 5,876 41.21 |
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A*******s
发帖数: 9638 | 41 谢谢againstwind，
看一下cardiology：
single multispecialty
Cardiology: noninvasive 5,407 60.25 5,556 47.94
不同的institute有不同的计算方法， RVU可能差不多， 但$/RVU差了很多， 为什么？
multispecialty的collection不好。
我以前说过， collection是硬道理。 在一个group， 老医生看好保险的病人，
medicare/medicaid一般junior看， 即使RVU相同，$/RVU是不同的。
所以不要太在乎多少RVU， RVU是工作单位统计你的工作量计算工资用的。 你的
collection才是最最重要的。
【在 a*********d 的大作中提到】
: 2011 Single Specialty Multispecialty
: RVUs $/RVU RVUs $/RVU
: Allergy/immunology [*] [*] 3,099 55.86
: Anesthesiology 9,597 28.62 [*] [*]
: Cardiology: invasive 8,069 46.13 6,411 45.27
: Cardiology: inv.-interv. 8,897 45.29 7,533 38.98
: Cardiology: noninvasive 5,407 60.25 5,556 47.94
: Critical care [*] [*] 4,073 38.46
: Dermatology [*] [*] 5,221 37.67
: Emergency medicine [*] [*] 3,972 38.08
|
R*******t
发帖数: 367 | 42 这个表格应该是一年的rvu?好像很少的样子，我们大多每天做50rvu左右，全职工作200
天。sweat shop...
【在 a*********d 的大作中提到】
: 2011 Single Specialty Multispecialty
: RVUs $/RVU RVUs $/RVU
: Allergy/immunology [*] [*] 3,099 55.86
: Anesthesiology 9,597 28.62 [*] [*]
: Cardiology: invasive 8,069 46.13 6,411 45.27
: Cardiology: inv.-interv. 8,897 45.29 7,533 38.98
: Cardiology: noninvasive 5,407 60.25 5,556 47.94
: Critical care [*] [*] 4,073 38.46
: Dermatology [*] [*] 5,221 37.67
: Emergency medicine [*] [*] 3,972 38.08
|
a*********d
发帖数: 2763 | 43 我觉得你说的collection有歧义，应该是reimburse。在collection上，其实大group有
优势，他们跟insurance有协议，可以给insurance好的deal，但是小的group或者solo
practice就没办法afford cut，好比walmart跟local 小店的区别。
reimburse，对大家来说都一样，就是medicare和private insurance之间的区别，所以
大家都不愿意看medicare,因为到手的钱少。但是现在的reality是，随着失业率如此上
升，private insurance的人越来越少，而且medicare方针一出，其他insurance都纷纷
效仿，总之日子是越来越难过，只能开源节流，跑量。
另外同学们找工作的时候，要问清楚怎么base upon RVU,这个是很误导的，有的group
给50 percentile RVU,有的给60 percentile，一进一出就能差好多
【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢againstwind，
: 看一下cardiology：
: single multispecialty
: Cardiology: noninvasive 5,407 60.25 5,556 47.94
: 不同的institute有不同的计算方法， RVU可能差不多， 但$/RVU差了很多， 为什么？
: multispecialty的collection不好。
: 我以前说过， collection是硬道理。 在一个group， 老医生看好保险的病人，
: medicare/medicaid一般junior看， 即使RVU相同，$/RVU是不同的。
: 所以不要太在乎多少RVU， RVU是工作单位统计你的工作量计算工资用的。 你的
: collection才是最最重要的。
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a*********d
发帖数: 2763 | 44 我也是刚开始自己捉摸哈，我觉得这个是全国平均的，还包括了很多大学医院的，那有
些医生一周只看一个门诊的，跟private肯定不能比的，所以私人group或者hospital
employee 用medium RVU来pay医生，其实是一种很残酷的剥削。。。
200
【在 R*******t 的大作中提到】
: 这个表格应该是一年的rvu?好像很少的样子，我们大多每天做50rvu左右，全职工作200
: 天。sweat shop...
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A*******s
发帖数: 9638 | 45 你这个也太BSO了吧？ 别告诉我你是radiology， 工作半年， 10000rvu， 41/rvu，
410，000/half year？ 你明年来当版主吧， 要不另外半年会闲的发疯的， 呵呵。
开个玩笑， 不要在意， BSO在本版绝对legal
200
【在 R*******t 的大作中提到】
: 这个表格应该是一年的rvu?好像很少的样子，我们大多每天做50rvu左右，全职工作200
: 天。sweat shop...
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a*********d
发帖数: 2763 | 46 我觉得你们两个人在说两个概念，一个是WRVU, 包括overhead的，A++你说的是你净赚
到手的RVU，一般只有40%呢
【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】
: 你这个也太BSO了吧？ 别告诉我你是radiology， 工作半年， 10000rvu， 41/rvu，
: 410，000/half year？ 你明年来当版主吧， 要不另外半年会闲的发疯的， 呵呵。
: 开个玩笑， 不要在意， BSO在本版绝对legal
:
: 200
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R*******t
发帖数: 367 | 47 跟每天有人罩着，慢工出细的住院生涯很不一样，每天都有很赶的感觉。随着时间希望
越来越顺手，有量有质。教学医院的医生都淡薄名利啊，private practice的，真就是
向钱看。比较安全的就是中间了，eat what I kill.
【在 a*********d 的大作中提到】
: 我也是刚开始自己捉摸哈，我觉得这个是全国平均的，还包括了很多大学医院的，那有
: 些医生一周只看一个门诊的，跟private肯定不能比的，所以私人group或者hospital
: employee 用medium RVU来pay医生，其实是一种很残酷的剥削。。。
:
: 200
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R*******t
发帖数: 367 | 48 这是什么意思？
group
【在 a*********d 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得你们两个人在说两个概念，一个是WRVU, 包括overhead的，A++你说的是你净赚
: 到手的RVU，一般只有40%呢
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a*********d
发帖数: 2763 | 49 详细说说中间？我怎么觉得没有中间呢？
【在 R*******t 的大作中提到】
: 跟每天有人罩着，慢工出细的住院生涯很不一样，每天都有很赶的感觉。随着时间希望
: 越来越顺手，有量有质。教学医院的医生都淡薄名利啊，private practice的，真就是
: 向钱看。比较安全的就是中间了，eat what I kill.
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R*******t
发帖数: 367 | 50 200天怎么是半年呢？不是40周吗？
【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】
: 你这个也太BSO了吧？ 别告诉我你是radiology， 工作半年， 10000rvu， 41/rvu，
: 410，000/half year？ 你明年来当版主吧， 要不另外半年会闲的发疯的， 呵呵。
: 开个玩笑， 不要在意， BSO在本版绝对legal
:
: 200
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a*********d
发帖数: 2763 | 51 你如果仔细看你的productivity的report，会看到一个是WRVU，就是work RVU，是总
数，然后边上应该有个RVU，那个是扣除所有的overhead以后留给你的RVU，一般要去掉
一大半。
【在 R*******t 的大作中提到】
: 这是什么意思？
:
: group
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A*******s
发帖数: 9638 | 52 你是这样计算的啊， 那就是3个月假， 也够好的了。
【在 R*******t 的大作中提到】
: 200天怎么是半年呢？不是40周吗？
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R*******t
发帖数: 367 | 53 有些不大的医院可以contract给一组人，算介于雇员和私企之间的。比纯教学医院赚得
多。
【在 a*********d 的大作中提到】
: 详细说说中间？我怎么觉得没有中间呢？
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a*********d
发帖数: 2763 | 54 恩，是不是有些hospitalist，可以一个月带教住院医生，一个月自己值班这样的？
【在 R*******t 的大作中提到】
: 有些不大的医院可以contract给一组人，算介于雇员和私企之间的。比纯教学医院赚得
: 多。
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R*******t
发帖数: 367 | 55 每月休息一周吧，不过那样还缓不过来呢，每天脑子高度紧张，在那个case上放松都对
不起人家啊，所以没有放松得时候。
【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】
: 你是这样计算的啊， 那就是3个月假， 也够好的了。
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a*********d
发帖数: 2763 | 56 这么好！每月休息一周！
我前几天跟一个医生聊天，说度假。他鄙睨说，一出去度假就是零收入，加上出去的吃
住开销，简直是双倍的损失。。。我汗。。。
【在 R*******t 的大作中提到】
: 每月休息一周吧，不过那样还缓不过来呢，每天脑子高度紧张，在那个case上放松都对
: 不起人家啊，所以没有放松得时候。
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R*******t
发帖数: 367 | 57 我们好像就是统计你的wrvu，乘以签约是说好的每Wrvu的单价，我都不知道overhead具
体多少。估计肯定剥削了，宁愿不知道算了。超过75%ile wrvu才有bonus，每个wrvu比
base的多5刀，以示鼓励多劳多得的意思。
【在 a*********d 的大作中提到】
: 你如果仔细看你的productivity的report，会看到一个是WRVU，就是work RVU，是总
: 数，然后边上应该有个RVU，那个是扣除所有的overhead以后留给你的RVU，一般要去掉
: 一大半。
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R*******t
发帖数: 367 | 58 这样比较平衡些，劳逸结合吧。
【在 a*********d 的大作中提到】
: 恩，是不是有些hospitalist，可以一个月带教住院医生，一个月自己值班这样的？
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R*******t
发帖数: 367 | 59 没时间花钱的人肯定能攒下钱来，把银行帐户养的肥肥白白的，成就感啊。就怕闲了上
网购物，邮递员大叔都熟的跟自家亲戚似的，每天登门还带着东西。。。同汗。。。
【在 a*********d 的大作中提到】
: 这么好！每月休息一周！
: 我前几天跟一个医生聊天，说度假。他鄙睨说，一出去度假就是零收入，加上出去的吃
: 住开销，简直是双倍的损失。。。我汗。。。
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A*******s
发帖数: 9638 | 60 wRVU的统计是不大变的， 年年如此， $/RVU会年年变， based on你上一年的
collection/reimbursement。
【在 R*******t 的大作中提到】
: 我们好像就是统计你的wrvu，乘以签约是说好的每Wrvu的单价，我都不知道overhead具
: 体多少。估计肯定剥削了，宁愿不知道算了。超过75%ile wrvu才有bonus，每个wrvu比
: base的多5刀，以示鼓励多劳多得的意思。
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c**********m
发帖数: 2088 | 61 that's why we need pensions.
four months official vacation every year...
【在 a*********d 的大作中提到】
: 这么好！每月休息一周！
: 我前几天跟一个医生聊天，说度假。他鄙睨说，一出去度假就是零收入，加上出去的吃
: 住开销，简直是双倍的损失。。。我汗。。。
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l*****w
发帖数: 344 | 62
one year =365 days
potential working days = 365 *5/7 = 260 days
actual working days = 260 - 10 (holidays)-CME (5) -Vacation (25) - sick day
(10) = 210 days.
so 200 working days is roughly a year
【在 R*******t 的大作中提到】
: 200天怎么是半年呢？不是40周吗？
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R*******t
发帖数: 367 | 63 I only get 6 holidays off.
day
【在 l*****w 的大作中提到】
:
: one year =365 days
: potential working days = 365 *5/7 = 260 days
: actual working days = 260 - 10 (holidays)-CME (5) -Vacation (25) - sick day
: (10) = 210 days.
: so 200 working days is roughly a year
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l*****w
发帖数: 344 | 64 your 50 RVUs per day scares me. I am still in the middle of calculating how
many RVUs I could generate in a day... maybe I should look for a hospital
based job |
R*******t
发帖数: 367 | 65 Thats why I was shocked to see people do 4000 a year, and it is a full time
job... It must take different time span to generate 1 RVU in different
fields. There is a chart showing in details of RVU correlates on every
procedure or service. Such as for ENTs, removal of an inner ear lesion is
about 30 RVUs, etc.
how
【在 l*****w 的大作中提到】
: your 50 RVUs per day scares me. I am still in the middle of calculating how
: many RVUs I could generate in a day... maybe I should look for a hospital
: based job
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m*********c
发帖数: 253 | |
w***7
发帖数: 463 | 67 nobady's 合同 is same. even in same group. the lawyer is not expensive
compare to the problems that you do not know.
【在 c**********m 的大作中提到】
: 合同 is usually general. there is nothing to challenge.
: everybody gets the same 合同.
: you waste money to hire a lawyer.
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s**********t
发帖数: 217 | 68 Totally agree. You need to find a medical contract lawyer in your state. But
, it would be more helpful for private practice. The hospital employed
position, the hospital always gives you the standard contract. So, the
contract lawyer might not be that helpful. |
I****a
发帖数: 407 | 69 I have to agree with snowinforest based on my experience. As most people
suggested, I hired a lawyer who charges 375. a hr. Basically he said
hospital employed position has standard contract, there is very little
bargaining power for non compete clause, everyone gets the same deal. He did
thoroughly review it and suggested a few points that needs to be clarified
but to me non of those is deal breaker and they are more or less need to be
corrected to standard clear legal language to protect me in the future. From
my experience, I do think it is worthwhile to have lawyer for your first
contract but in the future if I need to move to another similar practice, I
think I could get away without one. I believe my legal bill is 700 at this
moment, just FYI.
Happy Chineses New year!
But
【在 s**********t 的大作中提到】
: Totally agree. You need to find a medical contract lawyer in your state. But
: , it would be more helpful for private practice. The hospital employed
: position, the hospital always gives you the standard contract. So, the
: contract lawyer might not be that helpful.
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h*******l
发帖数: 1542 | 70 As I told you before, everyone gets the same contract.
if I were you, I would have read the contract by myself.
did
clarified
be
From
I
this
【在 I****a 的大作中提到】
: I have to agree with snowinforest based on my experience. As most people
: suggested, I hired a lawyer who charges 375. a hr. Basically he said
: hospital employed position has standard contract, there is very little
: bargaining power for non compete clause, everyone gets the same deal. He did
: thoroughly review it and suggested a few points that needs to be clarified
: but to me non of those is deal breaker and they are more or less need to be
: corrected to standard clear legal language to protect me in the future. From
: my experience, I do think it is worthwhile to have lawyer for your first
: contract but in the future if I need to move to another similar practice, I
: think I could get away without one. I believe my legal bill is 700 at this
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