L*1
发帖数: 11537 | 1 1. 大家都同意裁判漏判了pass interference.
但是PI is not reviewable. 就是当时没有判，就不能事后追加。
2. 关于possession有不同意见。
2a. 假设Tate在Jenning落地前将球抢过来，也应该比较明确，无数的判例证明该是
Tate TD。这也说明Jenning在空中就有possession是不成立的。
2b. 下面的就简单了，落地后两人同时有possession，按规章球归进攻方。TD。
3. 其实如果当时判interception，估计review也难改，就是所谓的insufficient
video evidence.
4. 所以综合以上，裁判在TD本身没有大错，但miss掉PI才是致命的。 |
a***n
发帖数: 5665 | 2 真是那啥者无谓。
【在 L*1 的大作中提到】
: 1. 大家都同意裁判漏判了pass interference.
: 但是PI is not reviewable. 就是当时没有判，就不能事后追加。
: 2. 关于possession有不同意见。
: 2a. 假设Tate在Jenning落地前将球抢过来，也应该比较明确，无数的判例证明该是
: Tate TD。这也说明Jenning在空中就有possession是不成立的。
: 2b. 下面的就简单了，落地后两人同时有possession，按规章球归进攻方。TD。
: 3. 其实如果当时判interception，估计review也难改，就是所谓的insufficient
: video evidence.
: 4. 所以综合以上，裁判在TD本身没有大错，但miss掉PI才是致命的。
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L*1
发帖数: 11537 | 3 套用老赵的话，“我们老了，无所谓了”。
【在 a***n 的大作中提到】
: 真是那啥者无谓。
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l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 4 How many times do we need to post this rule. If you don't think
this is what happened last night, go watch the reply with some
objectiveness.
A.R. 8.28 NOT A SIMULTANEOUS CATCH （This should apply)
First-and-10 on A20. A2 controls a pass in the air at the A40. B3 then also
gets control of the ball before they land. As they land, A2 and B3 fall down
to the ground. Ruling: A’s ball, first-and-10 on A40. Not a simultaneous
catch as A2 gains control first and retains control. |
G**Y
发帖数: 33224 | 5 问题是啥叫controls a pass?
这本来就是含糊的东西，只不过那些正式裁判有他们一套约定俗成的解释。
also
down
【在 l*x 的大作中提到】
: How many times do we need to post this rule. If you don't think
: this is what happened last night, go watch the reply with some
: objectiveness.
: A.R. 8.28 NOT A SIMULTANEOUS CATCH （This should apply)
: First-and-10 on A20. A2 controls a pass in the air at the A40. B3 then also
: gets control of the ball before they land. As they land, A2 and B3 fall down
: to the ground. Ruling: A’s ball, first-and-10 on A40. Not a simultaneous
: catch as A2 gains control first and retains control.
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L*1
发帖数: 11537 | 6 你这是进攻的例子，不完全适用。加上两人同时有possession时球归进攻方的例子，说
明订立规则的出发点是有利进攻方的。这样来说，现场裁判没有大错。
also
down
【在 l*x 的大作中提到】
: How many times do we need to post this rule. If you don't think
: this is what happened last night, go watch the reply with some
: objectiveness.
: A.R. 8.28 NOT A SIMULTANEOUS CATCH （This should apply)
: First-and-10 on A20. A2 controls a pass in the air at the A40. B3 then also
: gets control of the ball before they land. As they land, A2 and B3 fall down
: to the ground. Ruling: A’s ball, first-and-10 on A40. Not a simultaneous
: catch as A2 gains control first and retains control.
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l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 7 Two hands on the ball, and bring it to his chest. If that's not controlling
the ball, then Tate definitely didn't have any control through out the whole
process. No matter how you define control, throughout the whole process,
Jenning obviously had more "control" of the ball than Tate. If you could
define "control" in a way that Tate could have had more "control" to the
ball than Jenning, I don't want to hear about it.
There is really no point arguing it any more. The game is over. Whatever
opinion people have, they have already made up their mind, including myself.
【在 G**Y 的大作中提到】
: 问题是啥叫controls a pass?
: 这本来就是含糊的东西，只不过那些正式裁判有他们一套约定俗成的解释。
:
: also
: down
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l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 8 Even NFL didn't try to defend the call. In their statement, they simply said
they agreed with not reverting the call on the field. Didn't even clarify
whether the call on the field was right or wrong.
You are entitled to your opinion. I stick to mine.
【在 L*1 的大作中提到】
: 你这是进攻的例子，不完全适用。加上两人同时有possession时球归进攻方的例子，说
: 明订立规则的出发点是有利进攻方的。这样来说，现场裁判没有大错。
:
: also
: down
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