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q*******n
发帖数: 20306
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我在媒体上,也从网络论坛上经常看到“简单体力劳动”或Unskilled Labor这类说法
,我在现实中时而也听到我旁边的人这么说。
在提到“简单体力劳动”的时候,能听出这些人的轻蔑口气。大意是这些工作都是傻瓜
能做的。
Unskilled Labor在美国的意思是高中毕业的人就能做,不需要大学毕业就能完成的工
作。或者是可以交给非法移民比如老墨或福建偷渡客去做,美国本地人不愿意做的工作
。或者是工资很低的工作,给法定最低工资,或者略高于法定最低工资就可以雇到人去
做的工作。 或者是可以从美国外包给中国的工厂去做的工作。
最常提到的Unskilled Labor是在麦当劳里翻肉饼。 实际上很多人认为厨师的工作是
Unskilled Labor,美国的中餐烹饪几乎是美国的饮食业里难度最高的了,但美国所谓
的中餐雇无经验的老墨就可以做。 我也注意到美国中餐馆的厨师,基本上都是新移民
或偷渡客,并且他们在来美国之前,在中国的时候没有任何厨房工作经验。
即使美国中餐馆的厨师在中国是熟手厨师也没用,因为中餐馆的出品都非常简单,并且
老板不在乎质量,比如随便把鸡胸脯,鸡翅,土豆块放进热油里炸一炸就... 阅读全帖
q*******n
发帖数: 20306
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我觉得有意思的是,为什么一个人自己并不擅长做某项工作,却会那么自信地,那么坚
定地说那件工作是简单体力劳动?
比如很多人以轻蔑的语气描绘烹饪的工作,“在麦当劳翻肉饼,” 而说这话的人自己
根本不会烹饪。
比如很多美国人认为组装苹果手机属于Unskilled Labor,而说这话的美国人并不能胜
任这种组装工作。
这些工作确实是简单体力劳动。 问题是,这种话应该由会做的人说。
一个连一两位数的加减法都做不好的人,却轻蔑地说笔算五位数的加减乘除是
Unskilled Labor。 没错,笔算五位数的加减乘除确实是Unskilled Labor,只要是经
过训练的,不太傻的人,都能做到很快就算出结果,并且能保证结果99%正确,但此
语如果出自不会做的人,适当吗?
l**h
发帖数: 998
3
对这个问题我有个很好的回答
读研究生的时候, 学校的ESL做了一个调查, 对于英语为母语的美国大学生, 为了学会
不同外语语种 (根据熟练程度定义为1/2/3/4级, 譬如说3级要求能听懂正规广播80%以
上)需要花费的时间和努力是有很大差别的. 同样达到2级水平, 日语和中文需要1200小
时, 西班牙与葡萄牙语就只需要700小时等等.
你说的翻肉饼切菜之类的, 本版琐男实践机会少, 很可能干不过unskilled worker, 但
是他们花费了数年学会编程统计之类技能, 产生了强烈的自信, 觉得你说的那些简单技
能是可以在数十小时内掌握和达到合格水平的, 即便不能像"卖油翁"那样达到神乎其技
, 也没关系, 因为雇主不会因为你是个卖油翁就付双份工钱.
从我的角度, 我觉得琐男不应该看不起修自行车翻肉饼的, 因为这些人有可能 (很低的
概率)具有编程统计或者发帖等天赋, 可以学得非常快做得非常好, 但因为性格或经济
原因没能实现那数年的积累, 所以只能干简单体力劳动.
但是一个人不擅长做某项工作, 譬如切菜搬砖, 仍然有资格自信坚定地说该工作是简单
体力劳动, 因为社会常识和调查数... 阅读全帖
r******s
发帖数: 925
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AprilSummer (但盼守得云开见日月) 于 (Tue Mar 8 22:14:48 2011, 美东) 提到:
大家知道,在美国申请永久居留权有以下几种方式,1)Asylum2) Immigrant Visa
3) Adjustment of Status 4) Cancellation of Removal 5) Special Legislation.
我们这个版上基本上集中在职业移民和家庭移民两种。吃包子的注意了,问题就是:
职业移民包括哪几类?请具体写出来。
家庭移民又包括哪几类,请具体写出来。
第一个答对的给包子15个,其他答对的每个人包子5个。不要反复回帖,不要灌水,不要起混砸场子,违者罚包子5个。光re的没包子,得答对问题。
现在开始!!!!
家庭移民
第一类是Immediate Relative (IR),IRs没有排期,没有移民名额限制。
IR包括以下几种情况,公民的配偶和未成年子女,绿卡持有者在海外旅行出生的子女,公民的父母。
(Spouses and minor c... 阅读全帖
J******s
发帖数: 7538
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来自主题: Wisdom版 - 正语经文辑要-zz
八正道
正语经文辑要
汤华俊 编辑翻译 2005年7月
英文原文网址:Right Speech
The definition
"And what is right speech? Abstaining from lying, from divisive speech, from
abusive speech, & from idle chatter: This is called right speech." — SN
XLV.8
定义:
诸比丘!云何为正语耶?诸比丘!离虚诳语、离离间语、离粗恶语、离杂秽语。诸比丘!此
名之为正语。
——《相应部*大篇*道相应*无明品*分别》
Five keys to right speech
"Monks, a statement endowed with five factors is well-spoken, not ill-spoken
. It is blameless & unfaulted by knowledgeable people. Which five?
"It is spoken at the right time. ... 阅读全帖
J******s
发帖数: 7538
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117
Maha-cattarisaka Sutta
The Great Forty
Translated from the Pali by
Thanissaro Bhikkhu
南传中部 第117经
大四十经
巴译英:谭尼莎若比丘
I have heard that on one occasion the Blessed One was staying at
Savatthi, in Jeta's Grove, Anathapindika's monastery. There he addressed
the monks: "Monks!"
"Yes, lord," the monks replied.
我是这样听说的:有一个时候佛陀住在舍卫国祇树给孤独园,他对比丘们说:
“比丘们!”
“世尊!”比丘们回答说。
The Blessed One said, "Monks, I will teach you noble right concentration
with its supports and requisite conditions. Listen, and pay close... 阅读全帖
w*********g
发帖数: 30882
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纽约时报:美国人如何输掉了iPhone的工作
四月网 2012-02-06
《纽约时报》1月12日报道,原题:美国人如何输掉了iPhone的工作。以下是文章内容
摘编。
中国河南省2010年招聘会上,富士康科技有限公司的求职者蜂拥而至。
去年二月份,巴拉克•奥巴马在加利福尼亚参加矽谷名人们的晚宴,每个客人都
得到了一个向总统提问的机会。
但当斯蒂夫•乔布斯准备发问时,奥巴马总统打断了他,先提出了自己的一个问
题:怎样才能在美国生产iPhone?
不久之前,苹果还在吹嘘它的产品都是在美国生产的,今天事情已经完全不是这样了。
苹果公司去年卖出的7000万部iPhone、3000万部iPad和5900万部其他产品,几乎全是在
海外生产的。
奥巴马问,为什么不能把这些工作搬到家里来做?
乔布斯先生的回答含糊其辞,据参加宴会的人员回忆,他说:“这些工作回不来了。”
总统的发问触及了苹果公司的核心问题所在,这已经不仅仅是海外廉价劳动力的问题了
。苹果高层认为,海外工厂的规模、工人的灵活性、勤奋程度和操作技巧都已经超过了
美国工人。“美国制造”已经不是大部分苹果产品的明智选择... 阅读全帖
k******a
发帖数: 816
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出点事情怎么办。。。
Fukushima Cleaned Up by Poor and Unskilled
The ravaged nuclear plant’s operator has left the complex cleanup to a
poorly trained, mistake-prone work force.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/17/world/asia/unskilled-and-dest
f*****9
发帖数: 6768
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来自主题: Military版 - 绿卡上种类AS6是什么意思?
A11 Unmarried Amerasian son or daughter of a U.S. citizen born in Cambodia,
Korea, Laos, Thailand, or Vietnam. Sec. 203(a)(1) of the INA and 204(g) as
added by PL-97-359 (Oct. 22, 1982)- ((entered with IV))
A12 Child of an alien classified as A11 or A16. Sec. 203(d) of the INA and
204(g) as added by PL-97-359 (Oct. 22, 1982) – ((entered with IV))
A16 Unmarried Amerasian son or daughter of a U.S. citizen born in Cambodia,
Korea, Laos, Thailand, or Vietnam. Sec. 203(a)(1) of the INA and 204(g) as
... 阅读全帖
b********n
发帖数: 38600
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The Economist: sending 1.2 billion unskilled Africans to Europe will
increase world GDP
https://gefira.org/en/2017/09/26/the-economist-sending-1-2-billion-unskilled
-africans-to-europe-will-increase-world-gdp/

发帖数: 1
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没你说的
Green Card Category Codes
AM1 Amerasian, born in Vietnam/td>
AM2 Spouse/child of AM1 or AM6
AM3 Mother, guardian or relative of AM1 or AM6
AS1 Approved primary asylee
AS2 Spouse of asylee
AS3 Child of asylee
C20 Child of an alien classified as C24 or C29. Conditional.
C21 Spouse of a lawful permanent resident alien (subject to country
limitations). Conditional.
C22 Stepchild (under 21 years of age) of a lawful permanent resident
alien (subject to country limitatio... 阅读全帖
l****z
发帖数: 29846
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来自主题: USANews版 - How U.S. Lost Out on iPhone Work
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/business/apple-america-and-a-
The New York Times
When Barack Obama joined Silicon Valley’s top luminaries for dinner in California last February, each guest was asked to come with a question for the president.
But as Steven P. Jobs of Apple spoke, President Obama interrupted with an inquiry of his own: what would it take to make iPhones in the United States?
Not long ago, Apple boasted that its products were made in America. Today, few are. Almost all of the 70 ... 阅读全帖
l****z
发帖数: 29846
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来自主题: USANews版 - 关于最低工资的一些想法
A reader asked me if I ever hired someone for the minimum wage. He also
believes the minimum wage is really a maximum wage.
From Drew ...
Mish, I’m curious if you have ever had to actually pay someone minimum
wage to work for you week in, week out, year after year?
I’ve signed plenty of paychecks myself, and honestly, I could never
employ someone and pay the minimum wage knowing it was not enough for that
person to live on, regardless of whether or not the “market” says I could
hire them... 阅读全帖
b********n
发帖数: 38600
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【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: beijingren (to thine own self be true), 信区: Military
标 题: 经济学家:12亿非洲人移民欧洲会增加世界GDP
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Sep 27 10:19:21 2017, 美东)
The Economist: sending 1.2 billion unskilled Africans to Europe will
increase world GDP
https://gefira.org/en/2017/09/26/the-economist-sending-1-2-billion-unskilled
-africans-to-europe-will-increase-world-gdp/
j*********r
发帖数: 24733
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Companies behind Florida bridge collapse have history of fines, failures,
lawsuits
The two firms responsible for building Florida International University’s "
instant bridge," which suddenly collapsed Thursday and left six people dead,
are coming under increased scrutiny as details emerge of past engineering
failures and inspection fines -- including a recent accusation that one
hired “unskilled” and “careless” workers.
The $14.2-million pedestrian bridge was supposed to open next year to help
s... 阅读全帖
c******0
发帖数: 21
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来自主题: JobHunting版 - 关于H1b的一些问题。
H1b没抽中怎么办呢?下面是几种可以留在美国的方式。
1. 可以继续维持F1学生身份,攻读一个额外的学位。
一个额外的学位可以让申请人在职场更具备竞争力。本科的学生继续就读硕士,则可以
额外获得硕士毕业后享有的OPT。而已有硕士学位人士获取另一个硕士学位则不享有。
所以在时间上需要稍加安排,最好是在硕士毕业前拿到工作并与雇主谈妥工作签证申请
事宜,等到秋季毕业以后在H1B工作签证生效后可以马上开始工作。可以在硕士期间积
极寻找校外实习并争取转正。实习期间需要向学校申请CPT(另一种工作许可)。
在你现有的OPT结束后,如果你觉得还想在某个专业方向继续进修的话,完全可以再申
请一个新的学校,然后继续用CPT工作,工作和学习两不误。不过,原则上来说CPT每周
最多只能有20小时,如果你的学校允许全职CPT,那就要小心,它可能在打擦边球哦。
在CPT工作期间,也是一样可以申请H1B的。
不过,如果你在美国获得了本科或硕士学位后,要特别注意择校哦。如果你选择一个语
言类项目继续就读,很可能中途回国后再次入境美国时被怀疑就读的真实目的。例如常
青藤的高材生小伙伴们,就不建议选择中国城的语言学校继... 阅读全帖
c******0
发帖数: 21
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来自主题: JobHunting版 - H1B。H1B?H1B!
H1b没抽中怎么办呢?下面是几种可以留在美国的方式。
1. 可以继续维持F1学生身份,攻读一个额外的学位。
一个额外的学位可以让申请人在职场更具备竞争力。本科的学生继续就读硕士,则可以
额外获得硕士毕业后享有的OPT。而已有硕士学位人士获取另一个硕士学位则不享有。
所以在时间上需要稍加安排,最好是在硕士毕业前拿到工作并与雇主谈妥工作签证申请
事宜,等到秋季毕业以后在H1B工作签证生效后可以马上开始工作。可以在硕士期间积
极寻找校外实习并争取转正。实习期间需要向学校申请CPT(另一种工作许可)。
在你现有的OPT结束后,如果你觉得还想在某个专业方向继续进修的话,完全可以再申
请一个新的学校,然后继续用CPT工作,工作和学习两不误。不过,原则上来说CPT每周
最多只能有20小时,如果你的学校允许全职CPT,那就要小心,它可能在打擦边球哦。
在CPT工作期间,也是一样可以申请H1B的。
不过,如果你在美国获得了本科或硕士学位后,要特别注意择校哦。如果你选择一个语
言类项目继续就读,很可能中途回国后再次入境美国时被怀疑就读的真实目的。例如常
青藤的高材生小伙伴们,就不建议选择中国城的语言学校继... 阅读全帖
A**l
发帖数: 2650
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你举的例子都不是"work",是"biz"。官方网站对此有详细的说明。
比如,可以去帮客户调试机器,但是不能开发这个机器(硬件软件等)
你到底有没有去查过官方文档啊?只是不停用日常语言在这里搅。
日常生活中的词语和法律文档是有不同的定义和含义的。
就跟resident一样,上学、国税、州税都有不同的定义,你非要用日常
生活的resident来说事有什么意义呢?法律条文说了算。
employment并不是单纯的有一份劳动合同,而是要满足一系列的测试条件
b1如果要work,也是要申请EAD的,什么情况怎么申请,uscis都有条文
否则,我只要在中国开一个外包公司,就可以很容易绕过H4不能为美国公
司工作的限制了。
有志于理解这滩浑水的人不妨仔细阅读
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/87206.pdf
及相关条文
随便摘抄几句如下:
...
Engaging in business contemplated for B-1
visa classification generally entails business activitie... 阅读全帖
r******s
发帖数: 925
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AprilSummer (但盼守得云开见日月) 于 (Wed Mar 9 20:16:29 2011, 美东) 提到:
昨天的问题我们已经知道职业移民有五种,E1, E2, E3, E4, E5。E1-4是美国雇主雇佣
外籍员工,E5是外籍投资者给美国创造就业机会。
Employment First Preference (E1): Priority Workers, EB1a, Extraordinary
Ability in Science, Arts and Athletes; EB1b, Outstanding Researcher or
Professor
EB1c, Multinational Executive or Manager; Employment Second Preference (E2):
Professionals Holding Advanced Degrees and Persons of Exceptional Ability;
Employment Thir... 阅读全帖
w*****3
发帖数: 910
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来自主题: Immigration版 - 绿卡上的category
LIST OF IMMIGRATION CODES THAT MAY BE MENTIONED ON YOUR GREENCARD
C20
Child of an alien classified as C24 or C29 - conditional.
C21
Spouse of a lawful permanent resident alien (subject to country limitations)
- conditional.
C22
Stepchild (under 21 years of age) of a lawful permanent resident alien (
subject to country limitations) - conditional.
C23
Child of an alien classified as C21, C22, C26, or C27 (subject to country
limitations) - conditional.
C24
Unmarried son or daughter (21 years of age... 阅读全帖
w*****3
发帖数: 910
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来自主题: Immigration版 - 绿卡上的category
LIST OF IMMIGRATION CODES THAT MAY BE MENTIONED ON YOUR GREENCARD
C20
Child of an alien classified as C24 or C29 - conditional.
C21
Spouse of a lawful permanent resident alien (subject to country limitations)
- conditional.
C22
Stepchild (under 21 years of age) of a lawful permanent resident alien (
subject to country limitations) - conditional.
C23
Child of an alien classified as C21, C22, C26, or C27 (subject to country
limitations) - conditional.
C24
Unmarried son or daughter (21 years of age... 阅读全帖
c*********o
发帖数: 1469
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美国绿卡和身份------常见问题及回答汇总
http://www.mitbbs.com/pc/pccon_3687_149755.html
http://www.mitbbs.com/pc/pccon.php?id=3687&nid=150909&pid=0&tag
备注:转载于qiaka的mitbbs博客,见上面的链接。刚刚考古的时候发现的,初看了一
下,对新手和老手都有帮助。请版主们看看,是否有必要置顶。觉得好的xdjm,打发个
包子吧!
前言:本文汇集了MITBBS immigration(落地生根版)上,我本人对聊友们的问题所做
的一些回答(但极少数很有参考价值的帖子,虽然不是我本人作答,我也包含在此)。这
些回答是根据我本人申请绿卡的亲身经历、我本人查阅USCIS、DOS官方网站法律规定、
和浏览一些聊友们的具体case等而作出的回答。我本人非专业律师,这些回答仅供大家
参考。
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1。关于绿卡申请中的文章引用问题。
1)对于发表的中文文章,在“知... 阅读全帖
c*********o
发帖数: 1469
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美国绿卡和身份------常见问题及回答汇总
http://www.mitbbs.com/pc/pccon_3687_149755.html
http://www.mitbbs.com/pc/pccon.php?id=3687&nid=150909&pid=0&tag
备注:转载于qiaka的mitbbs博客,见上面的链接。刚刚考古的时候发现的,初看了一
下,对新手和老手都有帮助。请版主们看看,是否有必要置顶。觉得好的xdjm,打发个
包子吧!
前言:本文汇集了MITBBS immigration(落地生根版)上,我本人对聊友们的问题所做
的一些回答(但极少数很有参考价值的帖子,虽然不是我本人作答,我也包含在此)。这
些回答是根据我本人申请绿卡的亲身经历、我本人查阅USCIS、DOS官方网站法律规定、
和浏览一些聊友们的具体case等而作出的回答。我本人非专业律师,这些回答仅供大家
参考。
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1。关于绿卡申请中的文章引用问题。
1)对于发表的中文文章,在“知... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: Immigration版 - Green Card Category Codes
Green Card Category Codes
https://secure.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/lnx/0500502215#C
C20
Child of an alien classified as C24 or C29 - conditional.
C21
Spouse of a lawful permanent resident alien (subject to country limitations)
- conditional.
C22
Stepchild (under 21 years of age) of a lawful permanent resident alien (
subject to country limitations) - conditional.
C23
Child of an alien classified as C21, C22, C26, or C27 (subject to country
limitations) - conditional.
C24
Unmarried son or daughter ... 阅读全帖
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是真的。我曾经Google到一个论坛,主要是EB3 广州CP在讨论排期(感觉说粤语的比较
多),那个论坛里应该很多Unskilled worker,有人就举了个养鸡场的例子,当然美国
雇主必须要有雇人的需要。EB3里面分好几类,IT业会计之类的是属于Skilled/
Professional workers吧,可能厨师按摩师也属于这类。我记得EB3 Unskilled worker
有全世界每年5000名额的限制。不sure这些申请人和他们的家属占不占EB3C 2500的名额
(2800-300血卡),不占的话,有可能排期比我们看到的EB3C的排期要晚。
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C20
Child of an alien classified as C24 or C29 - conditional.
C21
Spouse of a lawful permanent resident alien (subject to country limitations)
- conditional.
C22
Stepchild (under 21 years of age) of a lawful permanent resident alien (
subject to country limitations) - conditional.
C23
Child of an alien classified as C21, C22, C26, or C27 (subject to country
limitations) - conditional.
C24
Unmarried son or daughter (21 years of age or older) who is a stepchild of a
lawful permanent resident alien... 阅读全帖
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EB23 GC codes
2nd Preference (professionals with advanced degrees or workers of
exceptional ability)
New arrival Adj. in U.S. Description
E21 E26 Professional holding advanced degree
E22 E27 Spouse of E21 or E26
E23 E28 Child of E21 or E26
3rd Preference (skilled workers, professionals, and needed unskilled workers)
New arrival Adj. in U.S. Description
E31 E36 Skilled worker
E32 E37 Professional w/ baccalaureate degree
E34 E39 Spouse ... 阅读全帖
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刚才看了下,你说的好像很有道理!这个Other Worker是属于Unskilled Worker这一类
里面的,
然后版上还有人问过没有学士学位的,这个我觉得应该是Skilled Worker里面的,
然后其它本科学位以上的都是Professional里面的,就是现在说的普通EB3
但是几年前我查过,如果是厨师这个职位是不行的,但可能可以包装成比如食品加工这
种职位符合unskilled worker,还比如Nursing可能就是Skilled Worker, 因为我知道
有人办过H-1C,不能办H-1B, 有机会我去找律师再问问。

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你的理解不对。移民法很多地方立得可马虎了,要用EO搞工签移民,分分钟的事情。分
分钟搞掉还能自称合理合法。无非就是看总统愿不愿意了。
"immediately available"(INA 245)的歧义大着呢。有律师写了一整篇博文讲这两个
字:http://blog.cyrusmehta.com/2015/10/when-is-visa-immediately-available-for.html 讲一群等绿卡的人起诉 DOS的事情(恰恰就是涉及第二排期的问题),最终他们没能起诉DOS成功。
VB的意思从来就不是严格的“immediately available",只是说你能交485了。不然要
是绿卡已经有了(immediately available嘛),何来排期倒退一说。
再比方说这个反移民组织的提议:http://cis.org/miano/president-trumps-h-1b-nuclear-bomb
你看法律 8 U.S.C. 1182(a)(5)有这段:我一切合法吧?
(i) In general Any alien who seeks to enter the U... 阅读全帖
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In the past, unskillful behavior was unknown among the human race. As a
result, people lived for an immensely long time — 80,000 years — endowed
with great beauty, wealth, pleasure, and strength. Over the course of time,
though, they began behaving in various unskillful ways. This caused the
human life span gradually to shorten, to the point where it now stands at
100 years, with human beauty, wealth, pleasure, and strength decreasing
proportionately.
出自Cakkavatti Sutta
严重违背历史,地球在5000年前,还没有人类。从化... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: Wisdom版 - 密宗為什麼能吸引那麼多人?
您是基督版的朋友吧?
卡拉玛经,是巴利文写的,中文译本都有些出入,老外倒是有不少巴利文的高手,看这
里:
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/an/an03/an03.065.than.h
摘录在这里
"So, as I said, Kalamas: 'Don't go by reports, by legends, by traditions, by
scripture, by logical conjecture, by inference, by analogies, by agreement
through pondering views, by probability, or by the thought, "This
contemplative is our teacher." When you know for yourselves that, "These
qualities are unskillful; these qualities are blameworthy; these qualities
are critici... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: Wisdom版 - 【抛砖】浅谈刹那无常
我思故我在?
存在即是合理?
个人觉得向善之心无所谓特殊,也就无所谓失去
所有的行为想法,会从此时此刻而发生,不可预测。
所有的行为想法,会从此时此刻而消灭,不可预测。
个人认为
硬说是可以的, 不过这是一种 unskillful
的想法, 你谈到预测的概念,犹如薛定谔的猫
你不打开箱子, 谈猫的生死是毫无意义的
但是所有的行为想法都是有业报的
如果发生了就是应该的。如果没发生就是不应该的。
发生了就已经发生了, 没有发生, 只是你觉得它没有发生
不知道它有没有发生。谈应不应该也就毫无意义了
说到对错, 善恶, 我想用wiki的一个四正勤的图解来对比
中文的善恶, 在英文的翻译当中竟然是 skillful 和 unskillful
我觉得有时对错不能完全解释一些事, 但是有法可依的是
什么是应该做的, 什么是不应该做的,
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来自主题: _Auto_Fans版 - Brexit ! 欧洲车会减价不?
这个筛选有个非常大的问题,就是如果真这么做了
那么筛选出来的人做出来的决策只能保证有利于他们这个小群体,
却不能保证代表全体国民
像英国的情况,乃至全世界发达国家的情况
受教育程度高,能力高,资产高的人绝对会从欧盟化全球化中受益
但unskilled worker们恐怕吃的亏更多,
因为本质上他们将面临更多经济欠发达国家地区的unskilled worker的竞争
如果真的只让这些所谓更有能力做决定的人来决定整个国家的走向
那么这样的人群的利益,谁来代表?利字当前,个人的操守并不能指望。
且不说这个相对精英的人群很可能有充分的理由认为自己的决定就是对整个国家有利的
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来自主题: ChinaNews版 - 去苹果抗议只能让工人更惨
中国工人工资低是劳动力成本决定的,提高最低工资未必真的能改善全社会工人的生活
状况,给你个reference看看。
A historical (and current) example of a price floor are minimum wage laws,
laws specifying the lowest wage a company can pay an employee (employees are
suppliers of labor and the company is the consumer in this case). When the
minimum wage is set higher than the equilibrium market price for unskilled
labor, unemployment is created (more people are looking for jobs than there
are jobs are available). A minimum wage above the equilibrium wa
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(1) 史蒂文•萨克尔, 记者来鸿:中国人来澳洲“淘金”的影响. BBC Chinese,
Apr 20, 2011.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/zhongwen/simp/world
/2011/04/110420_fooc_china_australia.shtml
The above is translated from
Stepehn Sackur, Australian resources key to booming China. BBC, Apr 12, 2011
("In Perth, Australia's mining capital, there are signs of a bubble economy.
Restaurants and farms are struggling to find labour as unskilled workers
flock to the mines, where the average annual wage is $108,000 (£69,000
). A truck driver... 阅读全帖
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你们这个就属于对民主自由价值理解还不到位。至少,出于对人家的尊重,你问过人家
喜欢这个称呼么?在自由民主的灯塔美国,说话是要讲究political correctness的。
比如黑人不叫黑人,叫African American,白人不叫白人,叫Caucasian。Indian得说
成是Native American。Disabled不好,handicap才好。你的学生成绩差,你不能说他
incapable,你得说他challenged.Unskilled worker不好,guest worker就差不多了。
菲佣听起来就不positive,换成外籍家政助理或是外籍家政服务 - Foreign Family
Assistant/Service Provider之类的还差不多。
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我觉得问题在于这10%都是劳动密集型,多是unskilled员工,一有风吹草动,工厂裁
员倒闭跑路,影响了很多人的生计。
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一些低技术的加工业雇佣了很多的unskill的劳动力。这关系到中国就业和社会稳定
问题
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其实他就是故意选取了一种比较有利于自己的方式计算器放上来了
人家网站提供了各种方式下的比较,我贴出来各结果
In 2009, $1,000,000.00 from 1971 is worth:
$5,300,000.00 using the Consumer Price Index
$4,300,000.00 using the GDP deflator
$5,250,000.00 using the unskilled wage
$6,140,000.00 using the Production Worker Compensation
$8,550,000.00 using the nominal GDP per capita
$12,700,000.00 using the relative share of GDP
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703585004575604980835504348.html
By TIMOTHY AEPPEL
GREENVILLE, Mich.—When a fast-growing maker of solar equipment broke ground
here in 2006 on the first two of what it said would eventually be six giant
new factories, it seemed the sun was finally shining on this town's
battered economy.
Just months earlier, Sweden's Electrolux AB had shut its Greenville
refrigerator plant, nearly snuffing out what had been the town's marquee
industry for more than a... 阅读全帖
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unskilled laborers expecting exceptional pay, what did you expect would
happen?
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克鲁格曼咋说的,关于提高最低工资促进经济?难道是增加收入增加消费然后增加需求
然后增加生产?我记得克鲁格曼是支持自由经济的,咋这会变了?
要是资本家因为最低工资太高不雇用unskilled labor了,上面那个链子就断了。
b****g
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来自主题: Military版 - chinatown的末日zt
中国的崛起,是否意味着这个美国最有故事的少数族群飞地的末日?
Does China’s rise mean the end of one of America’s most storied ethnic
enclaves?
原题:The End of Chinatown
原址:http://www.theatlantic.com/magaz ... -of-chinatown/8732/
By Bonnie Tsui
David Leventi
As the manager of a Chinatown career center on Kearny Street in San
Francisco, Winnie Yu has watched working-class clients come and go. Most of
them, like Shen Ming Fa, have the makings of the quintessential Chinese
American immigrant success story. Shen, who is 39, moved to... 阅读全帖
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【 以下文字转载自 Seattle 讨论区 】
发信人: Gerdo (推自动交易), 信区: Seattle
标 题: 常见的贬损中国人的鹰文短语
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Feb 20 21:09:42 2012, 美东)
如果碰到,一定要坚决作有理有利的斗争。欢迎有经验的人士补充。
参考文献:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs
=================================================
ABC
(Chinese in the U.S.) American-born Chinese, a term used to refer to Chinese
people who were born in the United States.
Ching Chong
(U.S. and Canada) mocking the language of or a person of perceived Chinese
or East Asian descent. An offe... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: Military版 - 给你们看看民主的愤怒
英国人权组织网站文章。

Struggle of Tea Plantation Workers in North East India
Created: 2010-11-04
Malnutrition and Starvation Deaths
‘Due to malnutrition people started falling sick, in the last five years
more than 200 people have died on this (Tea) estate alone.’
‘They do not have any rice, they are hungry and they have to work on empty
stomach- so they fall ill and die. All of them died due to hunger and
malnutrition. This is how my husband died, he worked without enough food and
he died because the te... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: Military版 - TIME上的一则针对jimmy事件的评论
Jimmy: A lot of Mexicans are taking over the unskilled manual labor jobs of
the US. What should we do?
Kid: Kill all Mexicans.
ABC: Nope, we're not airing that.
Jimmy: Muslim are protesting against law that ban hijabs. What should we do?
Kid: Kill all Muslims.
ABC: NOPE, definitively not airing that!
Jimmy: Jewish people control a lot of financial assets in the US. What
should we do?
Kid: Kill all Jews.
ABC: WHO THE FCUK does the kid think he is? Destroy the footage immediately!
Jimmy: The US ow... 阅读全帖
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现成的很多
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Jimmy: A lot of Mexicans are taking over the unskilled manual labor jobs of
the US. What should we do?
Kid: Kill all Mexicans.
ABC: Nope, we're not airing that.
Jimmy: Muslim are protesting against law that ban hijabs. What should we do?
Kid: Kill all Muslims.
ABC: NOPE, definitively not airing that!
Jimmy: Jewish people control a lot of financial assets in the US. What
should we do?
Kid: Kill all Jews.
ABC: WHO THE FCUK does the kid think he is? Destr... 阅读全帖
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NO.
The phrases fresh off the boat (FOB) are terms used to describe immigrants
that have arrived from a foreign nation and have not yet assimilated into
the host nation's culture, language, and behavior. Within some ethnic Asian
circles in the United States, the phrase is considered politically
incorrect and derogatory. It can also be used to describe the stereotypical
behavior of new immigrants as, for example, their poor driving skills, that
they are educated yet working low-skilled or unskil... 阅读全帖
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【 以下文字转载自 Dreamer 讨论区 】
发信人: Dreamer (不要问我从哪里来), 信区: Dreamer
标 题: 靠,麻省多数警察实际收入超过100k
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Apr 17 00:23:09 2016, 美东)
千老还瞧不起当警察的
What’s wrong with this picture: In a nearby Mass., community, which borders
New Hampshire, half the members of its police force grossed more than $100K
in 2012. Some of those cops not only pocketed more money than their boss,
the Police Chief, but also grossed more than the Town Manager and School
Superintendent of that town. In other words, all that swee... 阅读全帖
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