l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 1 Obama: Newtown Shooter Gunned Down 20 Children With 'Fully Automatic Weapon'
Daniel Halper
April 4, 2013 1:06 PM
At a fundraiser last night in San Francisco, President Barack Obama said
that the Newtown killer gunned down 20 children using a "fully automatic
weapon." From the official transcript, provided by the White House:
Now, over the next couple of months, we’ve got a couple of issues: gun
control. (Applause.) I just came from Denver, where the issue of gun
violence is something that... 阅读全帖 |
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N***1
发帖数: 698 | 2 我是新手，我在南卡。
1。 请问什么是concealed weapons permit ？ 它有什么用？
2。在南卡申请concealed weapons permit 还需要上一个handgun traininig.请问怎么找
handgun training? 网上找一下，很多广告，不知道哪个合适？
3。上这个课程，需要自己带枪去吗？
谢谢各位了！ |
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d****e
发帖数: 2856 | 3 看本版“家防霰弹枪”一文。
Home defense shotgun is the way to go. Minimum training and maintenance
when comparing to rifle and handguns. Keep your ammo safe and locked away
from the kids.
When shot a shotgun, you don't need to aim as hard as the handgun nor rifle:
just point and shoot.
Deep South? GA? FL? AL? You may not need a license to buy a shotgun.
睦。 |
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f********r
发帖数: 3155 | 4 子弹加税以后，micro stamping也开始实施了，新型号半自动手枪没有micro stamping
不能在加州卖了。就是有厂家肯做加州特殊型号，买了带micro stamping的枪，
stamping磨损了以后的枪也不能卖
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/state&id=9107951
LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- After years of delays, a gun law signed by Governor
Arnold Schwarzenegger in 2007 is finally in effect.
The law requires all new semi-automatic handguns to come equipped with a
device that stamps each bullet with the gun's make, model, and serial number.
The law will not be applied to ... 阅读全帖 |
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x****7
发帖数: 387 | 6 他所言至少部分是一面之词 - 警察已控他违反其持枪限制，以及冒充警察。估计这两
项他躲不过去。Assault 罪要上法庭，但打这官司不容易。：
"Feng possesses a license to possess a handgun in his residence only, the DA
said, and in addition to assault, criminal mischief and impersonating a
police officer, he was also charged with violating his handgun license."
用的是 "Springfield Armory-brand sidearm"。 |
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b*******g
发帖数: 1095 | 8 嗯，的确是这样的。。
http://www.txchia.org/getchl.htm
Taking a Training Course 1.Find a DPS Qualified Instructor. TCHA member
instructors are listed on this site.
2.Take the training course. As of September 1, 2013, the class will require
4 to 6 classroom hours, and includes a written examination. In addition,
there is a shooting practical. You must pass each with a score of 70% or
better. a.The written exam covers law, nonviolent conflict resolution, and
handgun use and storage. It is not mainly about sh... 阅读全帖 |
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s******r
发帖数: 868 | 10 刚在在我买枪的dealer网上看到的说:
Handguns
Only NJ residents can obtain a NJ Pistol Purchase Permit.
A valid NJ Pistol Purchase Permit and government issued photo ID with
address and birthdate are required for all handgun purchases. Pistol
Purchase Permits are valid for 90 days and may be renewed for an additional
90 days.
In addition to the documents listed above, permanent resident aliens must
present documentation that establishes three months of continuous residency
in NJ prior to the sale date. Acceptab... 阅读全帖 |
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s********e
发帖数: 2148 | 13 刚从reed's回来
小二强烈推荐左轮，说不容易卡壳
至于长枪，他说万一坏人靠近，抓住你的枪咋办，汗。。
Handgun要考handgun safety certificate,
长枪竟然什么都不需要，给钱就卖
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8 |
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T******g
发帖数: 21328 | 14 Here's how Gov. Jerry Brown dealt with 18 gun bills Friday:
SIGNED
SB 127 by Sen. Ted Gaines, R-Rocklin -- Requires a licensed psychotherapist
whose patient makes a serious threat of violence against a reasonably
identifiable victim or victims to report that threat to local police within
one day; police must then notify the state Justice Department within a day
of receiving the report.
SB 363 by Sen. Roderick Wright, D-Los Angeles -- Expands the crime of "
criminal storage" to include keeping a ... 阅读全帖 |
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s**********1
发帖数: 497 | 15 好长，粗看作者大致结论是：家防rifle和shotgun各方面数据都很好，各口径handgun
数据均一般，且效果都差别不太大，所以handgun选耐用的熟手的就好，无关口径。 |
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d****d
发帖数: 699 | 16 Signed into law in 2011, but taking effect today are a number of laws
surrounding long gun registration.
A person living in California will not need to register their currently
owned firearms. However, starting today, whenever a long gun is transferred
through a dealer it will automatically be registered to the receiving
individual (PC 11106 and 28160).
For transactions that do not require a dealer, as of today, the recipient of
the long gun will need to register the long gun with the California... 阅读全帖 |
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s******v
发帖数: 4495 | 17 这个centerfiresystems说，
California Handguns must be on the California Approved Handgun List
No Mags over 10 rounds
No Semi-Auto Rifles
No Semi-Auto Shotguns
No Firearm Parts Kits
Los Angeles, Sacramento, San Francisco: No Ammo without FFL
不能卖No Semi-Auto Rifles？这是为啥？是他们不愿意改mag？
住在加州是真讨厌 |
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发帖数: 371 | 18 刚到马里兰时间不长，现在想办HQL买手枪。在这个Maryland State Police的网站（
https://www.mdsp.org）上看到说：
“Within 3 years prior to the submission of an HQL application, an applicant
must demonstrate a satisfactory completion of a Firearms Safety Training
Course. Qualified Handgun Instructors can be found online (here). The
Firearms Safety Training Course must be instructed by a Qualified Handgun
Instructor, and shall consist of a minimum of 4 hours of instruction and
include the following minimum curricula:。。。。”应该指的是专门的手枪安全... 阅读全帖 |
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E********t
发帖数: 2447 | 19 这个话题多次在版上讨论过但是都没有绝对明确的结论，根本原因就是因为下面这个高
法判决迟迟没有出台。今天终于出来了。
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/supreme-court-rules-straw-purchas
WASHINGTON (AP) — A divided Supreme Court sided with gun control groups and
the Obama administration Monday, ruling that the federal ban on "straw"
purchases of guns can be enforced even if the ultimate buyer is legally
allowed to own a gun.
The justices ruled 5-4 that the law applied to a Virginia man who bought a
gun with the intention of transferring it to a relative in Pe... 阅读全帖 |
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h******h
发帖数: 903 | 20 来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 练枪的开销 sig m11 800, glock 26 gen 4 550, ccw class/application 350, ammo 1500 round
about 350, range and gun rental cost 150（I went to range to try different
handguns before I actually purchased my own handgun), miscellaneous 260(such
as hostler, ammo case, clean kits, magazines and etc)
Total 800+550+350+350+150+260 = around 2400.......All these happened in 2
and half weeks. 哭。。。。。
还打算买把shotgun。。。。这还没算ar pistol.... |
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m******1
发帖数: 715 | 21 Put in the trunk is for sure safe. But it is not a mandate by CA DOJ code.
Here is a copy of the handgun code:
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TRAVELING WITH FIREARMS IN CALIFORNIA
HANDGUNS
California Penal Code section 25610 does not prevent a citizen of the United
States over 18 years of age who is not lawfully prohibited from firearm
possession, and who resides or is temporarily in California, from
transporting by motor vehicle any pistol, revolver, or othe... 阅读全帖 |
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i**e
发帖数: 6810 | 22 好奇 defensive handgun II 會cover什麽？
Defensive handgun I自己学习/打过一段时间的应该不需要去了吧。
现在对我来说是如何发现不正确的习惯，继续提高准确度，还有
rapid fire |
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f****t
发帖数: 2724 | 23 以下只适用于大加州共和国。
好了经过几轮免费诱惑， 菜鸟终于决定要拥有自己的一把枪了，可以领回家的， 一把
只属于自己，再也不用低眉顺眼的看肥猫脸色了。
嗯， 要说这个自由的土地确实很大方，由第二宪法修正案保护的权利竟然可以适用于
暂时来这里的外星人！ 不可思议！太不可思议了。
下面按外星人在本地居住权限分别论述。
1. 已经从外星人变成地球人，就是所谓的公民（男女都叫“公“民）。和已经被容
许永久赖在这里的绿（卡）人。
年龄要求：
18 years of age for rifles or shotguns.
21 years of age for handguns, lower receivers* and “pistol-grip only”
shotguns*.
上述人员买手枪， 需要的是大加州共和国司法部发的手枪安全证书 (Handgun Safety
Certificate)。（购买散弹枪Shotgun， Rifle， 自动步枪AR不需要）
这个证是30道选择题对75%就是23道题。据我所知还没有人第一次Fail掉的。 菜鸟外星
人可以花大约半个小时读完以下资料就可以... 阅读全帖 |
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a***a
发帖数: 8941 | 24 96票赞成
35票反对
Texas is well on its way to allowing the open carry of handguns in public
places after House lawmakers took an initial step to approve it Friday.
After a debate that stretched for more than five hours, the chamber passed
House Bill 910 from state Rep. Larry Phillips, R- Sherman, on second reading
, 96 to 35. It would allow license holders to openly carry their handguns in
shoulder or hip holsters.
Similar legislation has already cleared the state Senate, and Gov. Greg
Abbott has pled... 阅读全帖 |
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f****t
发帖数: 15913 | 25 泥哥杀人越货的好日子一眼望不到头啊
San Francisco's last gun store closing doors for good
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — The only gun store in San Francisco is shuttering for
good, saying it can no longer operate in the city's political climate of
increased gun control regulations and vocal opposition to its business.
"It's with tremendous sadness and regret that I have to announce we are
closing our shop," High Bridge Arms manager Steve Alcairo announced in a
Facebook post on Sept. 11. "It has been a long and difficult ri... 阅读全帖 |
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f****t
发帖数: 15913 | 26 泥哥杀人越货的好日子一眼望不到头啊
San Francisco's last gun store closing doors for good
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — The only gun store in San Francisco is shuttering for
good, saying it can no longer operate in the city's political climate of
increased gun control regulations and vocal opposition to its business.
"It's with tremendous sadness and regret that I have to announce we are
closing our shop," High Bridge Arms manager Steve Alcairo announced in a
Facebook post on Sept. 11. "It has been a long and difficult ri... 阅读全帖 |
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l****h
发帖数: 271 | 27 【 以下文字转载自 SanFrancisco 讨论区 】
发信人: liaoch (liaoch), 信区: SanFrancisco
标 题: 加州拥枪费用清单
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jan 30 23:43:20 2016, 美东)
经常有朋友问，拥有一把枪到底要花多少钱？回答的次数多了，干脆写一篇文章。我以
拥第一把手枪为例，列一个例子清单和参考价钱。需要购置几大类物品： 包括 枪，弹
药, 保险箱, 靶场包，靶纸，弹药箱, 耳塞，护目镜， 清洗用品等。
1 . 以流行的 cz75 bd 9mm 手枪为例：
零售 $590
加州税 $56
背景调查 DROS $25
Firearm Safety certificate考试 $25
2. 保险箱，强烈推荐指纹保险箱（有备用钥匙）, 紧急情况取枪不用找钥匙，记密码
BARSKA Biometric Safe@ Amazon $ 200
普通钥匙，密码保险箱 (search handgun safe on Amazon) 70左右。
3. 子弹 9mm luger, brass case (not steel), ... 阅读全帖 |
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l****h
发帖数: 271 | 28 【 以下文字转载自 SanFrancisco 讨论区 】
发信人: liaoch (liaoch), 信区: SanFrancisco
标 题: 加州拥枪费用清单
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jan 30 23:43:20 2016, 美东)
经常有朋友问，拥有一把枪到底要花多少钱？回答的次数多了，干脆写一篇文章。我以
拥第一把手枪为例，列一个例子清单和参考价钱。需要购置几大类物品： 包括 枪，弹
药, 保险箱, 靶场包，靶纸，弹药箱, 耳塞，护目镜， 清洗用品等。
1 . 以流行的 cz75 bd 9mm 手枪为例：
零售 $590
加州税 $56
背景调查 DROS $25
Firearm Safety certificate考试 $25
2. 保险箱，强烈推荐指纹保险箱（有备用钥匙）, 紧急情况取枪不用找钥匙，记密码
BARSKA Biometric Safe@ Amazon $ 200
普通钥匙，密码保险箱 (search handgun safe on Amazon) 70左右。
3. 子弹 9mm luger, brass case (not steel), ... 阅读全帖 |
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k**m
发帖数: 126 | 29 Maverick 88, cheap and good to home defense. One thing I found out is that
you don't have a lot of time practicing shotgun, so you don't need a high
quality one like a handgun. For handgun, you need practice all the time, so
you don't want a cheap one. Pump action also has a much less chance of
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M*4
发帖数: 2937 | 30 California Penal Code section 25400 does not prohibit a citizen of the
United States over 18 years of age who is in lawful possession of a
handgun, and who resides or is temporarily in California, from transporting
the handgun by motor vehicle provided it is unloaded and stored in a
locked container.
我觉得说的很清楚呀，只要你是公民和加州居民(短期也包括)就可以运输呀。 |
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a****2
发帖数: 85 | 31 After tried many handguns---P226, Glock 17, Glock 19, S&M 686 4", 6" ,
Ruger GP100,
and some rifles----S&M M&P 15, Sig Sauer MPX
Finally placed orders for my home defense guns:
Sig Sauer M400: $1000
Bushmaster ACP: $1850
Both use NATO 556, I actually was more fond of sig MCX, and 516, however,
the stress review video from youtube for sig MCX doesn't look good.
The reason I chose rifle over shotgun is because of the easy recoil control
and less noise. Even the 7.62mm bullet noise bother me, so no... 阅读全帖 |
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m****s
发帖数: 10867 | 32 Dealers may not sell or deliver a handgun or ammunition for a handgun to any
person the dealer has reasonable cause to believe is under age 21. |
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b*s
发帖数: 82482 | 35 怀里踹着枪的人，如果不是性子平和的人，会死得很快，呵呵
你如果看看The Atlantic的Jeffery Goldberg的文章，
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/12/the-case-fo
就知道不是左派都禁枪的。Goldberg经常给New Yorker，Atlantic，Slate写文章。
这篇文章里面，几个points我觉得很关键：
If someone is shooting at you, it is better to shoot back than to cower and
pray.
Concealed-carry permit holders commit crimes at a lower rate than the
general population.
Maybe it’s possible to distract a heavily armed psychotic by throwing a
pencil at him. But the psychotic would likely res... 阅读全帖 |
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b*s
发帖数: 82482 | 36 在BBS上叫嚷最凶的就是禁枪。这帮人对于枪一窍不通，对于美国社会，历史，政治也
都不明白，根本不明白禁枪时完全不可能的事情，在五十年内，或者一百年……
限制自动武器，还有加强背景调查和训练考核，让守法公民在学校里有机会反击，才是
真正有用的措施
正如Goldberg所说：
Today, more than 8 million vetted and (depending on the state) trained law-
abiding citizens possess state-issued "concealed carry" handgun permits,
which allow them to carry a concealed handgun or other weapon in public.
Anti-gun activists believe the expansion of concealed-carry permits
represents a serious threat to public order. But what if, in fact, the
re... 阅读全帖 |
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b*s
发帖数: 82482 | 37 来自主题: LeisureTime版 - 副校长的枪 If you want to buy a gun in Canada you’ll first have to pass the Canadian
firearms safety test with or without a course forehand, and then you’ll
have to obtain a license. Registration of all firearms is required in Canada
, and there is no permit to carry handguns, except in a few specific
circumstances like use in target practice or competition, and in certain
jobs like money transportation.
In USA you can buy a gun almost everywhere. In “Bowling for Columbine”, we
see Michael Moore go in to a... 阅读全帖 |
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b*s
发帖数: 82482 | 38 来自主题: LeisureTime版 - 副校长的枪 今天又看见一篇：
The U.S. Already Had a Conversation About Guns—and the Pro Side Won
The point isn't whether they're being treated fairly or not. It's that a gun
debate can only be productive in a country as pro-gun as this one when the
folks on either side at least understand the deeply held disagreements at
issue. So far, too many newly vocal reformers are operating under the
conceit that if only America "finally" had a conversation about gun violence
, everyone would immediately see the wisdom of the... 阅读全帖 |
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m***i
发帖数: 4637 | 39 还是数字有说服力
from WSJ:
7 minutes ago..Barrie Harrop Wrote:
Last year Handguns killed 48 people in Japan, 8 in the UK, 34 Switzerland,
and 21 Sweden.
Last year in USA 10,728 people were killed by handguns expect all the NRA
aspirants posting here on this forum ,can feel ashamed of this appalling
record ,in the most powerful Nation in World it seems these people including
hundreds of Children must be sacrificed so the right to carry powerful
weapons can continue mainly in a Urban situation.
It’s time ... 阅读全帖 |
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r****r
发帖数: 45 | 40 http://www.nraila.org/Issues/factsheets/read.aspx?ID=83
General Information
Privately owned firearms in the U.S.: Approaching 300 million, including
nearly 100 million handguns. The number of firearms rises over 4 million
annually.
Gun owners in the U.S.: 70-80 million; 40-45 million own handguns
American households that have firearms: 40-45%
Hunting licenses sold annually: 14.5 million
NRA State Associations and Local Clubs: 12,900
NRA Target Shooting Tournaments annually: 10,000
NRA Certified ... 阅读全帖 |
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s******l
发帖数: 6898 | 41 David G.Myers所著的第八版《社会心理学》，书中第10章《攻击行为：伤害他人》书
中提到：
Berkowitz等人发现，看到武器为人们提供了一种攻击的线索，“尤其是当它被当做一
种暴力工具而非消遣时”。实验研究发现，“枪支会启动敌对性想法和惩罚性的判断”
。Berkowitz认为，美国一半的谋杀与手枪有关，用家中手枪杀死家庭成员的可能性远
高于杀入入侵者，这一事实有其合理性。因为，“枪支不仅使暴力成为可能，还可以刺
激它的发生。”
“Berkowitz同样认为，禁止持有手枪的国家谋杀率较低是说得通的。英国人口为美国
的1/4，但谋杀案只有它的1/16。美国每年有1万起手枪枪杀案件，澳大利亚约有12起，
英国24起，加拿大100起。在华盛顿D.C.通过了限制人们持有手枪的法律后，与枪有关
的谋杀案和自杀事件都迅速降低了25%。”
“一项由疾病控制中心发起的研究中，对相同性别、种族、年龄和住所的枪支持有者和
非枪支持有者进行比较”，结果发现“那些家中藏有枪支（通常是为了自卫）的人被谋
杀的可能性是其他人的2.7倍——几乎都是被家人或密友杀死的。同样，藏有枪支的家
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发帖数: 18705 | 42 http://smartgunlaws.org/gun-deaths-and-injuries-statistics/
In 2010, guns took the lives of 31,076 Americans in homicides, suicides and
unintentional shootings. This is the equivalent of more than 85 deaths each
day and more than three deaths each hour.
73,505 Americans were treated in hospital emergency departments for non-
fatal gunshot wounds in 2010.
Firearms were the third-leading cause of injury-related deaths nationwide in
2010, following poisoning and motor vehicle accidents.3
Between 1... 阅读全帖 |
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k*******2
发帖数: 4163 | 43 恩，这样能保证在遇到坏人前，自己先到局子里报到了。
在新泽西随身带枪是犯法的，除非有permit to carry，而permit根本不可能随便
给学生，而且还是外国留学生：
The applicant must meet the requirements of the Permit to Purchase and FID,
provide personal information, be fingerprinted, prove his familiarity with
the use of handguns, have three reputable people knowing the person for at
least three years and have a “justifiable need to carry a handgun.”
NOTE: Issuance of the permit is almost completely discretionary, and New
Jersey courts have upheld the policy of stric... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 24893 | 44 【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: StephenKing (金博士), 信区: USANews
标 题: A two-year-old boy shot himself dead
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri May 10 10:22:01 2013, 美东)
A two-year-old boy in the US southern state of Texas has died after he was
able to get his hands on his father’s handgun, and shot himself in the head.
The shooting took place at around 8:46 p.m. local time on Wednesday (0246
GMT on Thursday) in Corsicana.
Police said the young victim, identified as Kinsler Allen Davis, found the
gun and fired it w... 阅读全帖 |
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m**x
发帖数: 8454 | 45 美国加州校园枪击案致7人死亡枪手被击毙
2013年06月08日14:38 沪江英语 微博 我有话说
（1/2）美国加州校园枪击案：致7人死亡 枪手被击毙
美国加州校园枪击案：致7人死亡 枪手被击毙
美国加州校园枪击案：致7人死亡 枪手被击毙
A gunman broke into homes, set fire to a property, shot at traffic and
tried to hijack vehicles in a rampage in Santa Monica which reportedly left
seven people dead and the suspect killed by police。
根据美国媒体报道，在洛杉矶圣塔莫尼卡市一名持枪者闯入民宅，向房屋、车辆等
开枪射击，并横冲直撞试图劫持车辆，最终导致7人死亡。嫌疑犯随后被警察击毙。
Santa Monica police chief Jacqueline Seabrooks told reporters the
rampage began at a house in ... 阅读全帖 |
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t******n
发帖数: 2939 | 46 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
mdmx (没大没小) 于 (Mon Jun 10 16:42:59 2013, 美东) 提到:
美国加州校园枪击案致7人死亡枪手被击毙
2013年06月08日14:38 沪江英语 微博 我有话说
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美国加州校园枪击案：致7人死亡 枪手被击毙
美国加州校园枪击案：致7人死亡 枪手被击毙
A gunman broke into homes, set fire to a property, shot at traffic and
tried to hijack vehicles in a rampage in Santa Monica which reportedly left
seven people dead and the suspect killed by police。
根据美国媒体报道，在洛杉矶圣塔莫尼卡市一名持枪者闯入民宅，向房屋、车辆等
开枪射击，并横冲直撞试图劫持车辆，最终导致7人死亡。嫌疑犯随后被警察击毙。
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b*****d
发帖数: 7166 | 47 The incident began when McCarthy, 48, started arguing with her unnamed 53-
year-old boyfriend about extraterrestrial beings when the discussion got
heated and took a bizarre turn.
McCarthy went into the couple’s shared bedroom then emerged wearing nothing
but white lingerie and “a silver handgun in her vagina,” police wrote in
the probable cause statement.
RELATED: PRISON GUARD BUSTED EXCHANGING SWEET TREATS FOR SEXUAL FAVORS
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G***G
发帖数: 16778 | 49 这个好。我也想这样。
请问，你是在猎区练什么枪？shotgun,还是handgun？
打猎的地方能射handgun吗？ |
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k*****3
发帖数: 120 | 50 Armed man waving flag shuts down highway
30 minutes ago
SANTA BARBARA, Calif. (AP) — A masked man waving an American flag and
holding a handgun on a highway overpass caused the highway below to be shut
down for hours during the Monday morning commute. No shots were fired.
Police Sgt. Lorenzo Duarte says the man, wearing a ski mask and brown
fatigues, was waving an American flag with one hand and a handgun in the
other when officers arrived on the overpass just after 7:10 a.m.
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