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b*****u
发帖数: 1556 | 3 Volvo和BMW之间选吧。535 rollover好些,xc60 frontal好些。
MDX好像test成绩稍逊。 |
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N********n
发帖数: 543 | 4 这里是总的链条,很多详细内容,大家如果感兴趣,可以看看
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f2281d7
Re: Sienna Ratings [indyguy5] by pact95
Mar 03, 2011 (5:01 am)
Replying to: indyguy5 (Mar 01, 2011 1:42 pm)
I wanted to provide some information I received from the NHTSA on the crash
test of the Sienna, with some
comparison to the Honda. Hopefully this helps people with their decisions.
The Toyota Sienna received a 2-star rating for the right front passenger
while the Honda Odyssey received
a 5-star. This rating i... 阅读全帖 |
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f****l
发帖数: 8042 | 5 摘要一下：自作孽（单车车祸），大车比小车危险；拉人垫背（多车车祸），小车比大
车危险；男人比女人危险；小孩比大人危险（无论乘客还是司机）；suv比sedan容易翻
；sedan越重越安全，pickup和suv则是安全和重量没有明显关系；前撞死得多，侧撞死
得少。下面是原文图例，具体数据和图表见http://www.iihs.org/research/fatality_facts_2009/occupants.html
A total of 23,437 passenger vehicle occupants died in 2009, 23 percent less
than in 1975. However, the distribution of vehicle types among these crashes
has changed. Car occupant deaths have declined 45 percent since 1975, while
pickup occupant deaths have risen 29 percent and SUV occupan... 阅读全帖 |
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s**n
发帖数: 25 | 6 在考虑买，看到youtube上的视屏，就发信问了NHTSA,下面是他们的答复，贴出来跟大
家分享下...
"The video you refer to is indeed accurate. It is not uncommon for
headrests to move significantly during high-speed frontal crash tests such
as this one. In some cases, as in the 2011 Honda Odyssey, they become
disengaged. NHTSA’s 5-star government crash ratings are based on the
probability of occupant injury to the head, neck, chest, and legs. Despite
the headrest movement, the dummy injury numbers for the front passenger’s
head and neck... 阅读全帖 |
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p*****t
发帖数: 97 | 9 做个xc60和x3纸上谈兵的数据比较，看看哪个车有所谓的性价优势。因为我选的是xc60 T6，所以x3也只能拿35i来比，28i不是Turbo的。首先说明的是我没去真正开过x3。本来也确实是计划内的，但开完xc60 3.2L和T6后，对T6很满意，所以就懒了，不想折腾了。比较时xc60的数据在前，数据都是从网上quote的。弄错了的地方欢迎大家指点，但还是客气点比较好。
首先比较价格，两款车都有各种options。如果是裸T6和35i比，sticker price –2k。xc60多了天窗，尽管这玩意不是每个人都想要。如果按我选的xc60算，大概是-3.5到4k。加上额外的tax，financing（目前volvo是1.9%，不知道BMW能讲到多少），和negotiable room（从truecar.com上，xc60可以-3k sticker price / -1k factory invoice，实际可以更多一点，我目前是-1.5k左右。x3是-2.5k sticker price / +500 factory invoice ，实际情况不清楚。对于我这个options选项而言，... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3942 | 10 原来一直盯着Camry，Accord，Sonata，Legacy等车，前几天同事给我推荐Regal。本来
不怎么考虑美国车，因为被现在开的美国车的质量问题给搞怕了。Google发现Regal的
可靠性还是挺好的，在2011年德国的某个质量调查排第一 （Opel Insignia）
http://www.samar.pl/__/3/3.a/62065?locale=en_EN
btw，想买Regal可以过两个月，等12款出来的时候会有更多优惠。12款已经全部是加拿
大生产的了，11款里德国和加拿大的都有，VIN第一位是W是德国产的，如果是数字2就
是加拿大产的。
Regal在IHHS的碰撞测试表现也很impressive。在Frontal offset crash test里的安全
笼形变程度接近M和B，和Audi A4基本相当。这就坚定了俺再买美车的决心了。
说起来也巧，我的公司恰好和dealer们有不少业务来往，找到负责这项业务的一个同事
refer我到一个GM的dealer去。托人找了关系，砍价就容易的多了，最后给了我base
model $23500+TTL，本来这车还有deal... 阅读全帖 |
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M***s
发帖数: 8769 | 11 http://www.safercar.gov/Vehicle+Shoppers/5-Star+Safety+Ratings/
Year/Make/Model Overall Frontal Crash Side Crash Rollover
Recommended
Technologies Compare
2011 Lexus RX350 SUV AWD 4 star rating 4 star rating
5 star rating 4 star rating Electronic Stability
Control Click 'Add Button' to compare vehicles Add
2011 Lexus RX350 SUV FWD 4 star rating 4 star rating
5 star rating 4 star ra... 阅读全帖 |
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M***s
发帖数: 8769 | 12 Starting with 2011 models, NHTSA has introduced tougher tests and rigorous new 5-Star Safety Ratings that provide more information about vehicle safety and crash avoidance technologies. Because of the more stringent tests, ratings for 2011 and newer vehicles should not be compared to ratings for 1990-2010 models. Overall vehicle score and frontal crash ratings should ONLY be compared to other vehicles of similar size and weight.
BMW 528i Honda Accord
Curb Weight AT 3814 Curb... 阅读全帖 |
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g**r
发帖数: 397 | 13 "Frontal crash test ratings can be compared only among vehicles of similar
weight" |
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c**********s
发帖数: 237 | 16 Hot-Selling 2011 Ford Edge Earns IIHS Top Safety Pick, Offers Standard
Safety Features, Leading Fuel Economy
The popular new 2011 Edge earned an Insurance Institute for Highway
Safety Top Safety Pick (for models built after February 2011), adding to
Ford’s leading number of top safety ratings
Edge sales are up 25 percent in 2011 as Ford’s stylish crossover
wrapped up March as its segment leader, accounting for 18 percent of medium
crossover sales
The 2011 Ford Edge is EPA-rated at an... 阅读全帖 |
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f***n
发帖数: 278 | 17 给个出处吧，我查到的是12款的camry overall 5星，frontal crash司机5星，乘客4星
，side crash都是5星，rollover 4星。就是没看见这个后座的所谓2星出处在哪里？ |
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t*********r
发帖数: 2558 | 18 1976
The safety steering system with corrugated tubing enters production in the
123 model series as a world first.
1978
The 116-series S-Class becomes the first car in the world to offer the
second generation of the anti-lock braking system (ABS). By 1980, it is
available for all Mercedes-Benz passenger cars. The offset crash test with
40-percent frontal overlap is defined as an internal testing method that
closely reflects reality.
1979
The 126-series S-Class is the world’s first motor car to f... 阅读全帖 |
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g*********s
发帖数: 85 | 19 ３月初要回国了，所以要卖车，车况非常好，浅绿色，2010年１２月底买的新车，到目
前为止没有出过任何问题，现在的里程大概９9００ mile (carmax估价１８００0, 自
己卖，加６００吧). 我在Houston.
如果有人感兴趣的话请联系：d*********[email protected]
电话：858-335-8986
Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive (AWD)
Subaru Advanced Frontal Air Bag System
Front Seat Side-Impact Air Bags
Active Front Seat Head Restraints
4-Wheel Disc Brakes w/Brake Assist
Anti-Lock Braking System (ABS)
Electronic Brake-Force Distribution
Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS)
Ring-Shape Reinforcement Frame Design
Anti-Theft Alarm & Im... 阅读全帖 |
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g********d
发帖数: 19244 | 20 Frontal and rear crash ratings should be compared only among vehicles of
similar weight while side impact and rollover crash test ratings can be
compared across vehicle type and weight categories.
if you can read, u should know how to compare among cars
and u should not compare fiat with f150
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g********b
发帖数: 8461 | 21
Take a look at the crash results and compare between A4 and A6：
A4：Restraints/dummy kinematics — Dummy movement was well controlled. The
driver side curtain airbag deployed during the crash. After the dummy moved
forward into the frontal airbag, it rebounded into the seat with its head
grazing the sunvisor, roof, and grab handle above the deployed side airbag.
A6：Restraints/dummy kinematics — Dummy movement was well controlled.
During rebound, the dummy's head hit the roof rail.
Pay attention t... 阅读全帖 |
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n***p
发帖数: 7668 | 22 Key point: "Top tethers MUST NOT be used with rear-facing infant or
convertible seats, unless it is SPECIFICALLY mentioned in the owner's manual
."
http://www.car-safety.org/latch.html
Top tethers MUST NOT be used with rear-facing infant or convertible seats,
unless it is SPECIFICALLY mentioned in the owner's manual. At this time,
there are only a few seats available in the USA that can be tethered in rear
-facing operation. These include the Britax convertible seats and the
Sunshine Kids Radi... 阅读全帖 |
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h****2
发帖数: 69 | 23 看起来不错啊~~
新的2.0T变成225hp 258lbft..多了个3.0T 272hp 295lbft.
更多图片在此：
http://audiusanews.com/imagegallery/view/list/20/79/Q5
2013 Q5 2.0T跟2013 X3 28i比起来哪个更好啊？
Apr 25, 2012 , INGOLSTADT, Germany
High-performance SUV with many talents – the updated Audi Q5
- Completely updated Q5 model series
- New engine-transmission pairings are up to 15 percent more efficient
- Audi connect services set new benchmark for infotainment
Sporty, spacious, comfortable and multifunctional – the Audi Q5 has a
versatile and ... 阅读全帖 |
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K**4
发帖数: 1015 | 24 Overall 5
Frontal Crash 5
Side Crash 5
Rollover 4
这个结果比 Grand Cherokee 都要好
和 xc60一样 了 阿
Honda难道吃 大力丸了 ？
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D********e
发帖数: 31 | 25 我也刚纠结过。最后买了accord exl $22300 左右。TL + tech 要 $34000左右。我选
accord的原因
1，便宜
2，看不惯2012 TL 的样子
3，2012 TL的 frontal crash test得分太低了。 |
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y********r
发帖数: 2836 | 26 再看看frontal，数据分别是 intrusion:
Footrest (cm) Left (cm) Center (cm) Right (cm) Brake
Lexus GS
model tested: 2013 7 8 9 6 6
Toyota Camry
model tested: 2012 9 8 5 6 7
Mercedes E class 4-door
model tested: 2010 1 1 2 2 2
BMW 5 series
model tested: 2011 1 1 1 1 2 |
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p*****n
发帖数: 98 | 28 2012 Enclave with leather seats, loaded, gold mist is the color, tan
interior.It is CXL top of the line package.
I just do not understand what CXL represents. How about this deal?
1SL - 1SL PACKAGE 1SZ - OPTION PACKAGE DISCOUNTS
392 - CASHMERE W/COCOA ACCENTS 39I - INTERIOR TRIM
51U - GOLD MIST METALLIC 6AA - COMPONENT FRT LH COMPUTER SEL SUSP
7AA - COMPONENT FRT RH COMPUTER SEL SUSP 8UN - COMPONENT FRT LH COMPUTER
SEL SUSP
9UN - COMPONENT RR RH COMPUTER SEL SUSP A45 - MEMORY... 阅读全帖 |
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s**p
发帖数: 702 | 29 这个月sienna有0apr，本周末是最后一个周末了，本来和一个朋友说好了一起买fully
loaded sienna limited，
MSRP46xxx。
我找到一个dealer很便宜，但是还是贪心的试着问dealer可否给我某个价钱以下，如
果可以我当天就去，没想到竟然拿到了那个价钱。
可是这一天给朋友打电话一直打不通，我不想食言，就自己跑过去了，正要签字，朋友
打电话说sienna不安全，他已经头一天买了odyssey touring elite了。于是我只好又
跑回来了。因为
之前没有找odyssey dealer讲价，也不喜欢odyssey的内饰，觉得还是sienna功能更好
，比如smart entry，push start，高速跟车功能，等等，所以这一个周末过去我啥车
也没买。
大家说说sienna到底是否能买呢？不安全主要是指副驾如果坐了女性，女性由于体重轻
个头小，更容易受伤，frontal crash中sienna得了3星，而odyssey得了5星，
Here are the two links he sent to me
http://www.washingto... 阅读全帖 |
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d****t
发帖数: 362 | 30 http://blogs.wsj.com/drivers-seat/2012/08/14/many-cars-fail-in-
Institute today will release the results of its first round of tests using
the new frontal standard, and of the 11 midsize cars tested two, the Acura
TL and Volvo S60, received the group’s top rating of “good.”
The Infiniti G was rated as “acceptable,” the Acura TSX, BMW 3 series,
Lincoln MKZ and Volkswagen CC were “marginal” and the Mercedes-Benz C-
Class, Lexus IS 250 and 350, Audi A4 and Lexus ES 350 were received “poor”
ratings |
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b****e
发帖数: 1180 | 31 好几个side airbag根本没打开。
好几个安全带设计松了，脸都撞面板了。
但是我觉得这两点都容易改进吧。
The institute said the new test indicates that side air bags — which are
designed for direct impact, T-bone crashes but not for off-center, frontal
ones — may not go off in time or extend far enough to protect occupants. In
three cars
— the BMW, Mercedes and Volkswagen — the seat belts spooled out too much
after the crash, causing the crash-test dummies to strike hard surfaces. |
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s*****3
发帖数: 1673 | 32 我觉得看车得frame有没有大的变形，A4的感觉变形的很大。 还有有的车side airbag
没有打开，还是没有设计？
还有 “The institute said the new test indicates that side air bags — which
are designed for direct impact, T-bone crashes but not for off-center,
frontal ones — may not go off in time or extend far enough to protect
occupants. In three cars — the BMW, Mercedes and Volkswagen — the seat
belts spooled out too much after the crash, causing the crash-test dummies
to strike hard surfaces. ”
from http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57492566/lu... 阅读全帖 |
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g********d
发帖数: 19244 | 33 2012年08月21日 新闻类别： 企业新闻 大 中 小打印
近日，在美国弗吉尼亚州阿林顿市由美国高速公路安全保险协会（Insurance
Institute for Highway Safety，IIHS）进行了一项新型小面积正面碰撞测试（Small
Overlap Frontal Crash Test）。在参与测试的11辆中型豪华和准豪华车中仅有沃尔沃
S60和阿库拉TL两款车型获得了优的评级。
本次参与测试的车型包括：沃尔沃S60、阿库拉TL、阿库拉TSX、沃尔沃S60、英菲尼迪G
、宝马3系、林肯MKZ、大众CC、奔驰C系、雷克萨斯IS 250/350、雷克萨斯ES 350和奥
迪A4, 上述所有测试车型均为2012款车型。
测试的具体形式为：使车辆前部驾驶员侧25%的面积与5英尺高的障碍物以64公里/小时
的速度进行碰撞。一个体积适中的假人被安置在驾驶员座椅上，系好了安全带。由此模
拟当车辆前角与其他汽车或树桩、电线杆等障碍物碰撞时的情景。
结构完整性
在任何碰撞事故中，防护关键是提供坚实的、不易变形的车辆结构，为乘员保留足够的
生存空间。之后，车辆约束装置就可以进行缓冲并提... 阅读全帖 |
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K******S
发帖数: 10109 | 34 It has been discussed for a while. But how many ppl actually read the whole
article before commenting or finding excuses?
http://www.iihs.org/news/rss/pr081412.html
There are lots of useful info:
1. one reason why S60 did well
"Volvo has performed similar small overlap tests as part of its vehicle
safety development process since the late 1980s, taking the results into
account when designing new models."
2. Why CC and A4 were rated poor
When the Volkswagen CC was put to the test, the driver door... 阅读全帖 |
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t******6
发帖数: 9093 | 35 近日，在美国弗吉尼亚州阿林顿市由美国高速公路安全保险协会(Insurance Institute
for Highway Safety，IIHS)进行了一项新型小面积正面碰撞测试(Small Overlap
Frontal Crash Test)。在参与测试的11辆中型豪华和准豪华车中仅有沃尔沃S60和阿库
拉TL两款车型获得了优的评级。
本次参与测试的车型包括：沃尔沃S60、阿库拉TL、阿库拉TSX、沃尔沃S60、英菲
尼迪G、宝马3系、林肯MKZ、大众CC、奔驰C系、雷克萨斯IS 250/350、雷克萨斯ES 350
和奥迪A4, 上述所有测试车型均为2012款车型。 |
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T*****e
发帖数: 799 | 36 Safety
The 2013 Acura RDX comes standard with antilock brakes, stability and
traction control, front side airbags, side curtain airbags and active front
head restraints. A rearview camera is standard as well. In Edmunds brake
testing, an all-wheel-drive RDX came to a stop from 60 mph in 128 feet, a
few feet longer than average for this class.
The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety gave the RDX the highest possible
score of "Good" in the frontal-offset, side and roof strength crash tests.
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T*****e
发帖数: 799 | 37 Safety
The 2013 Acura RDX comes standard with antilock brakes, stability and
traction control, front side airbags, side curtain airbags and active front
head restraints. A rearview camera is standard as well. In Edmunds brake
testing, an all-wheel-drive RDX came to a stop from 60 mph in 128 feet, a
few feet longer than average for this class.
The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety gave the RDX the highest possible
score of "Good" in the frontal-offset, side and roof strength crash tests.
htt... 阅读全帖 |
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n**********c
发帖数: 228 | 38 建议lz上s60，安全稳重，朋友刚提黑色s60 t5 AWD OTD 3.9w，250马力够力也稳，关
键是s60是唯一通过small frontal crash test的同济级欧洲车，c,a4,3系在这个拍
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发帖数: 2284 | 39 This sentence is just not reasonable. There have been quite a few cases
reported in this board that they've bought 2013 S60. How come some units (
that have been sold) wouldn't have this problem, while 'none has been sold'?
Please note the recall happened on 11/19/2012!
The following is the OFFICIAL info from NHTSA and there is no such words as
'none of these vehicles ...'.
Report Date: November 19, 2012 at 02:51 PM
Search Type: VEHICLE
Make: VOLVO
Model: S60
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N*******Y
发帖数: 94 | 40 安全的经济性SUV ／ crossover
2013 Dodge Journey不错啊
中型（midsize）
可配 3排 7座，让一些小型suv相形见绌
重 3818 磅以上，比一些小型suv要重的多
价格 MSRP 19590 ，甚至比一些小型suv要便宜的多
有AWD选项
iihs Top Safety Pick
Moderate overlap front test results Good
Side impact test results Good
Roof strength test results Good
Rear crash protection:
Overall rating Good
Dynamic rating Good
Seat/head restraint geometry Good
NHTSA 测试
Overall 4星
Frontal Crash 4星
Side Crash 5星
Rollover 4星
能比得上它的不多 |
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x*****9
发帖数: 3256 | 41 那个撞的却是惨不忍睹
不过稍微查了下
Only 3 of 11 midsize luxury and near-luxury cars evaluated earn good or
acceptable ratings in the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety's new small
overlap frontal crash test
C-Class A4这些都是poor
窝儿窝还是一贯坚挺 |
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X***9
发帖数: 7385 | 42 那就说说odyssey和sienna
由于买这种级别的车的比较多人买的是中档配置，我这里就比较exl vs xle
注明一点odyssey只有前轮驱动，sienna可以选全轮驱动，但目前本人没有觉得minivan
有全轮驱动的必要。2013款取消了4缸的选择，sienna为了和odyssey竞争油耗上市了4
缸的车，结果客户反映没有力，而且城市的油耗比odyssey6缸的多一mile，高速比6缸
的odyssey还少2miles
3年保值 58% vs 55%
5年保值 39% vs 38% 虽然只差1%，通过msrp来算，同样车况同样里程的
odyssey会比sienna在5年后值多$1003.95
高速油耗 27 vs 25 这个区别不大，如果平均一年开1万5，就差200元
发动机：
odyssey是3，4，6缸自动切换的变缸技术 vs 永远6缸
虽然都是3.5的，但是odyssey的 升略微大一点 3471 vs 3456
马力 248@5700 vs 266@6200 sienna看起来最大马力大，但峰值转速也高
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p*********n
发帖数: 144 | 43 如题
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/19/automobiles/2014-forester-get
The 2014 Subaru Forester was the only one of 13 compact crossovers and S.U.V
.’s to earn the highest rating in a new, more severe front crash test by
the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. The new Forester was rated Good,
and the 2013 Mitsubishi Outlander Sport received the next-highest rating,
Acceptable.
The insurance institute, which is financed by the insurance industry, began
conducting the new test, called the small ov... 阅读全帖 |
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w*******s
发帖数: 1644 | 45 Road TestSE Hybrid 4-cyl CVT
In a class generally known for bland styling and a lack of driving
excitement, the redesigned 2013 Fusion is a fresh, charismatic newcomer. But
like some promising and talented celebrities, it has just enough quirks to
erode your enthusiasm.
The new Fusion looks upscale and stylish, and it handles like a really good
European sports sedan. We bought three versions: a top-trim Titanium, a mid-
trim SE, and the SE Hybrid. All versions provide a composed, civilized ride
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X***9
发帖数: 7385 | 46 The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) has announced that the
2013 Toyota RAV4 has received a "poor" rating in the IIHS small overlap
front crash test. According to the IIHS a combination of poor structure and
inadequate control of the dummy's movement prevented the RAV4 from earning a
better rating.
What went wrong? In the small overlap test the driver's space was
compromised by intruding structure, and the dummy's left foot was trapped by
crushed and buckled sheet metal in the footw... 阅读全帖 |
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l*******g
发帖数: 27064 | 49 丰田的车，一上来测试就能表现好的基本没有
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