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发帖数: 4816 | 2 Basically, 得TE或者GE的原因就是因为受伤的地方，more likely is the Elbow part
, 承受不住它所受的冲击了，就导致它发炎或扭伤。
当然form，timing都对是否得TE有密切关系，因为form & timing好，那就可能让
elbow所受的冲击弱一些。除了form & timing，还有好多其它因素都可能影响，比如
racquet stiffness，string， string tension，还有打球的频率和强度，最重要的，
是自己elbow的strength，这个就会随着年龄的不断增长而在衰退的自然规律了。还有
一个因素，那就是打完一场激烈的比赛之后，身体没有得到很好的恢复，就又去进行下
一场高强度的比赛了，这种情况是最容易让自己出现TE的了。
好多 >45岁的4.5, 5.0朋友都还没 TE/GE 问题，那只能说明他们elbow strength还能
承受得起对elbow的综合冲击。 |
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i*********5
发帖数: 19210 | 3 【 以下文字转载自 Swimming 讨论区 】
发信人: ironman2015 (1/2 ironman x3), 信区: Swimming
标 题: high elbow catch / early vertical forearm (EVF)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Dec 28 09:51:33 2012, 美东)
http://www.osbmultisport.com/articles/strokeanalysis2.html
One of the main points we make in our Powerstroke® clinics is the
emphasis we place on high elbow catch / early vertical forearm (EVF) during
the catch and pull phase of the stroke. Note that you can have a high elbow
catch that does not start particularly early... 阅读全帖 |
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i*********5
发帖数: 19210 | 4 http://www.osbmultisport.com/articles/strokeanalysis2.html
One of the main points we make in our Powerstroke® clinics is the
emphasis we place on high elbow catch / early vertical forearm (EVF) during
the catch and pull phase of the stroke. Note that you can have a high elbow
catch that does not start particularly early in the stroke – hence the
additional name of early vertical forearm.
“Early” means that the elbow begins to rotate upward / hand and forearm
downward or perpendicular relat... 阅读全帖 |
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i*********5
发帖数: 19210 | 5 http://www.osbmultisport.com/articles/strokeanalysis2.html
One of the main points we make in our Powerstroke® clinics is the
emphasis we place on high elbow catch / early vertical forearm (EVF) during
the catch and pull phase of the stroke. Note that you can have a high elbow
catch that does not start particularly early in the stroke – hence the
additional name of early vertical forearm.
“Early” means that the elbow begins to rotate upward / hand and forearm
downward or perpendicular relat... 阅读全帖 |
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p******f
发帖数: 341 | 8 cocojames, I had bad tennis elbow last summer.
boz I use open stance, twist my elbow too much to hit heavy top spin.
and I played too much beyond my body limit.
That will hurt your body.
Lose your string, use soft string. practrice your forearm to be stronger.
I almost never stop playing let my elbow have a good rest.
I just don't hit that hard anymore and not play too much tennis anymore.
wear a tennis elbow band helps a lot too.
good luck! |
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p********r
发帖数: 3799 | 9 我这两天练这个bent elbow stroke,我来说说体会吧
第一，我觉得用high/bent elbow stroke游，我明显感到速度在提高，尤其是在水下的
时候，明显有个gliding的过程。时间上看，我这几天只游了几个200y的drill, 每一个
不到5分钟，这比我以前快。
再有，说到频率的问题，我数了一下，25y 的pool, 我的stroke count 是14，15，以
前要在17以上。我说的high cadence, 我估计可能是我的心理作用，觉得自己比以前块
，而且用high elbow的时候，我的打水还是one kick per one stroke, 可能是滑水 给
力，所以游的快了些。根据stroke per lane （SPL）的算法 （http://www.totalimmersion.net/blog/Whats-the-right-Stroke-Count-.html）
我的 High Efficiency SPL 在13左右，所以应该降低stroke count 一些。
第三，三头肌疼阿，我这两天左右的三头肌一直都很酸，我知道这可能证明我用到了那... 阅读全帖 |
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c*********o
发帖数: 39 | 10 eugene--florence--devils elbow--newport--corvalls--eugene
4个多小时开车
在devils elbow 玩了3个小时，海滩不错，灯塔，海豹；
devils elbow--newport海岸线不错，中途可以停下来玩玩。 |
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T******1
发帖数: 158 | 11 这里有一篇文章讨论高或低两方面的说法。
http://www.efastball.com/hitting/should-the-back-elbow-be-up-or
结论是: To recap, put your elbow any place you like in your stance. Then
bring it up (almost even with your shoulders) as you shift your weight
forward to toe touch. After your weight shift/ stride and your toe touches,
and you begin your actual swing, the elbow goes down.
Still don't believe us? Go to a field and try hitting both ways to see for
yourself which method makes the ball go further. |
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s****e
发帖数: 914 | 12 TI swing elbow instead of lifting elbow |
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m****z
发帖数: 978 | 13 牛，确实感觉轻松。我的脖子，和脖子两侧总算，不知道是不是Lifting elbow 搞得。
我还自以为HIGH elbow 呢。又学习了。多谢分享。 |
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A**M
发帖数: 113 | 14 这得应人而异。 肩部flexiable的人， body rotation + lifting elbow to recover
应没有问题。 swing elbow 手的入水不好控制， 不在肩的沿长线上。TI 关于入水是
怎摸说的？ |
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Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 15 Elbow friendly - definitely get the Fischer #1Pro MP. It's extremely elbow
friendly.
Amazingly I even have an extra one I can sell you! Perfect 9.5/10 condition
- used only twice, less than 1hr total hitting time!!
only $59.95 shipped!
(kiddings aside, it IS a decent racket and IS very elbow friendly - I find
it doesn't have the weight I like...) |
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O*********r
发帖数: 1835 | 16 最近小臂内侧在隐隐作痛，就是golf elbow的位置，不明白打tennis做么回有golf
elbow，是什么可能原因呢？
多年前打单反得过 tennis elbow，在小臂外侧，后来好了，再没复发。 |
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s****h
发帖数: 3979 | 17 网上看到lowes有45度的弯管，今天到店里去买，原本打算是买4-5个拼接起来，使得排
油烟管能避开油烟机正后方的stud。
结果看到lowes有90度的elbow，实际就是拼接好了的两个45度弯管，可以稍微变换角度
活动一下，两个elbow很方便就能使上排的抽油烟机出气口接到平排的外出气口了。 |
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m******e
发帖数: 2081 | 19 【 以下文字转载自 FleaMarket 讨论区 】
发信人: madsmile (unclover), 信区: FleaMarket
标 题: [出售]thermacare lower back and hip/knee and elbow
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Sep 9 22:29:18 2013, 美东)
二手交易风险自负！请自行验证是否合法和一手卡！:
我想卖的物品:
thermacare lower back and hip 10片
thermacare knee and elbow 9片
单张面值:
可接受价格(必须明码标价！):
1.0each
物品新旧要求:
全新。部分已拆外包装（for rebate），部分含外包装。全部有内包装
邮寄方式要求:
your label
买卖双方谁承担邮寄损失(Required if not code only):
before me, after you
付款方式说明:
chase quickpay
paypal
其他补充说明:
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g**4
发帖数: 863 | 20 Elbows Forward. Elbows in front of the barbell when looking from the side.
Not upper-arms parallel with the floor, it's not a Front Squat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ-hjNf-3_c
视频里的姿势人也是类似举重的
啊啊啊，纠结！ |
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s****e
发帖数: 914 | 21 我找不到Terry讲解这些比较“advanced”的视频或资料。感觉TI自己的学生在不同阶
段都会有各种类似的质疑。一部分人离开TI，另一部分被说服。
David Shen自己被竹内说服的过程见：http://www.dshen.com/blogs/training/archives/total_immersion_advancing_beyond_beginner.html
Main argument：你已经学得太好了，“After going through all this, Shinji then
tells me there are about 4-5 people who have progressed in TI to this stage
, and that there are 20-30 in Japan who are working now on adjusting their
stroke for speed. I state this not to brag about how I've progressed in TI
training, but rath... 阅读全帖 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 22 I don't need elbow friendly, hehe. Never had elbow feelings yet.
It's for my LD. |
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 23 有一种tennis elbow是因为肌肉生长速度快于肌腱，防止这种tennis elbow的
出现的办法就是循序渐进，一点点上量，给肌腱生长和适应的时间。 |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 24 我的个人经历，仅供参考，没什么可argue的。
当然每个人情况不一样，如果你有其他方法可以治愈球肘那也不错。如果你的球肘还没
有治愈的话，不妨虚心听一下，也许其中某几条就是你elbow问题的根源。 |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 25 你这是在分享治愈失败的例子，而我是在分享治愈elbow成功的经验。 |
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T*********0
发帖数: 4816 | 26 咱版上好多人都认识或知道在Katy的rogerall。他已经放弃tennis，改玩golf了。到现
在他可能有一年没有打网球了。几个月前，因为有Austin美女要过来玩，他就提前一周
又把网球拍子拿起来了。结果刚刚练习一次网球，还没等Austin美女来呢，自己就得TE
了。
我知道他的tennis form和水平应该至少是4.25的。但怎么在他停下来网球至少半年后
，再一打网球，就突然TE了呢？因为自己不再是20多岁或30岁的年轻人了，在放下
tennis的那段时间了，elbow strength随着这么长时间不打网球而衰弱了，这种情况可
能就同form和timing根本没有关系了。 |
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x******i
发帖数: 5 | 27 LG is 36 and works in a big finance company. I bought him a sport coat with
elbow patches. The first few weeks he got tons of compliments from
coworkers. Then last week another coworker close to him said "how old are
you? this kind of coat is for people over 40". I am so confused. I actually
really like the style with an elbow patch.
Really need advice on this.
Thanks!! |
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p********r
发帖数: 3799 | 28 今天中午去游泳，试了练了两个练习
1) single arm breath
就像视频里这样，只有一个手滑水。感觉的就是对水下的glide和catch有很大的帮助.
单手滑要比双手滑，在节奏上慢很多，这样我可以感觉到什么叫gliding。还有就是我
以前不会打水，今天做这个drill的时候，头一次，感觉到打腿的快感了。
2）high elbow stroke
昨天看的这个视频，今天试了一下。感觉就是神速啊。
就是在水下的胳膊，肘关节弯曲，有一定的角度，然后向后滑水。不过这个stroke,基
本上用到三头肌，我游了一会，就觉得三头肌那个位置酸的很。
如果找不到感觉，可以试试breaststroke, 我发现bent elbow 的方法和 breaststroke
很像，就是最后的时候，breaststroke 把手受到胸前，freestyle里，手是向后推的。
抱怨一下, 在GYM里称了体重，又轻了快两磅，要严重增肥。 |
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n******e
发帖数: 485 | 29 兄弟握个手，我也经历过这个，GM 3800II的发动机过热毛病，当时把整个intake
manifold，还有什么lower manifold的gasket都换了，花了3x个钟头把发动机拆的一片
一片的。那个pipe elbow就是一次性的， 烂在里面了，弄下来肯定就要换新的。哎，
学生不容易啊~~~ |
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m******e
发帖数: 2081 | 30 二手交易风险自负！请自行验证是否合法和一手卡！:
我想卖的物品:
thermacare lower back and hip 10片
thermacare knee and elbow 9片
单张面值:
可接受价格(必须明码标价！):
1.0each
物品新旧要求:
全新。部分已拆外包装（for rebate），部分含外包装。全部有内包装
邮寄方式要求:
your label
买卖双方谁承担邮寄损失(Required if not code only):
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付款方式说明:
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广告的有效期:
till gone
物品来源(Required for All Cards!):
cvs
我的联系方式:
pm
Warranty期限:
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能否证明是合法的一手卡?(Required for All Cards!):
state and zip: |
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m******e
发帖数: 2081 | 31 二手交易风险自负！请自行验证是否合法和一手卡！:
我想卖的物品:
thermacare lower back and hip 10片
thermacare knee and elbow 9片
单张面值:
可接受价格(必须明码标价！):
1.0each
物品新旧要求:
全新。部分已拆外包装（for rebate），部分含外包装。全部有内包装
邮寄方式要求:
your label
买卖双方谁承担邮寄损失(Required if not code only):
before me, after you
付款方式说明:
chase quickpay
paypal
其他补充说明:
广告的有效期:
till gone
物品来源(Required for All Cards!):
cvs
我的联系方式:
pm
Warranty期限:
exp 2015
能否证明是合法的一手卡?(Required for All Cards!):
state and zip: |
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y**a
发帖数: 9065 | 32 elbow, fettuccine and spaghetti
in spring colors...
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.7 |
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s******t
发帖数: 1956 | 33 Our tenants clogged the kitchen sink and tried to fix it by snake. But the
clogged point is behind a 90 degree pipe elbow, their snake can not pass
through.
Any suggestion? |
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w*****m
发帖数: 20421 | 34 几块钱还贵啊，20年前BUILDER用的什么ELBOW，人早就不生产了吧 |
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n******t
发帖数: 1281 | 35 那些铝管子不是很容易弯曲吗？直接弯一下就行了，为啥还要借助elbow拐弯？ |
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s******2
发帖数: 852 | 36 你说的是软管，大家都推荐一定要硬管，硬管肯定是要elbow 的 |
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c*********o
发帖数: 39 | 37 刚到oregon一个多月，拿了驾照，买了新车，想出去兜兜风，朋友介绍devils elbow，
有没有哪位朋友去过的，能给个攻略什么的，在此感谢了！ |
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j****g
发帖数: 240 | 38 what he did before was too obvious...
i think his elbowing skill definitely improved this year, =) |
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p*********r
发帖数: 174 | 39 输急了心理问题
最牛的还是公开elbow队友，这个绝对史上第一无争议 |
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j****g
发帖数: 240 | 40 sasha and vlad needed to be elbowed, PERIOD! |
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p*********r
发帖数: 174 | 42 训练中，和球场上，两回事
再说了，你能给个视频证据不？
我能提供一堆kobe elbow the biatch的 |
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 43 Kerr自述，MJ自述。youtube上有。kobe那个，就是一个Nudge，连脸都没打，
说elbow就是妖魔化。 |
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p*********r
发帖数: 174 | 44 这又开始比胸襟了？
elbow队友这事咋又急着略过不谈了？
接着扯，地球反正是圆的，扯一圈就能回来 |
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m*********a
发帖数: 2000 | 45 when did Kobe get a bad elbow?
shit |
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T***c
发帖数: 17256 | 46 elbow a nigga... and white |
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h******2
发帖数: 1498 | 47 today during a club training ride an experienced rider told me to bend the
elbows more, shift the weight from the arms to the "legs" and sit further
back. and when you're really "kicking it", drop the torso even lower so
that the fore arms are parallel to the ground. at the same time, use the
torso weight to drive the legs. easier said than done -- my lower back was
killing me after a few minutes. more learning down the road... |
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i**********g
发帖数: 159 | 48 yeah, one goofy fast rider told me this. Another advantage is that it
tremendously decreases the shock on your palm and shoulder because the elbow
and tricep work together as a suspension. But the thing is: I feel comfortable
using this technique when I climb but my triceps are going sour quickly after
couple of minutes. |
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g**4
发帖数: 863 | 49 RTRTRT
rest position，elbow位置超过bar，小臂成倾斜状态，类似举重的那种姿势了 |
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N****O
发帖数: 4202 | 50 我家LD的tennis elbow,扎针灸两次，就好了。。。 |
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