U******u 发帖数: 5829 | 1 既然要说建设性的,别的就都先不提了,光是反手切削,作为3。5+~4。5,其实甚至
职业的,都应能切出极为低平的有杀伤力和得分能力的球。其实,上次他那个半分
钟段子里已经显露了他切削技术水平根本不到3。5。这次对打的长段子就更清晰显
示那个反手切削只是3。0+的PUSHER BACK而根本不是作为杀伤得分和过渡手段的。
再说跑动,他是能跑,但完全是无预判断的被动性跑,所以回击球是非常别扭和无
奈的。你即使回击失误(职业高手也一样有UE),但是,你是有预判断性跑动并在跑
动中同时就做好回击到对方别扭位置的回击也一下就能让旁观的看出来与他这种低
水平被动跑动月亮球到对方场地不失误的明显差别来。
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U******u 发帖数: 5829 | 2 光看他开头说那个“反手切削要基本杜绝,太难看”就不奇怪他以前那些非常不网球的奇谈怪论了。
不说格拉芙的反手切削是经典了。就是强3。5以上的,靠反手切削切死对手甚至是
4。0弱的,在USTA比赛里非常多见,一点都不稀奇。到4。5甚至不说5。0以上的,
切削技术反倒相对少些,多爱打暴力反手抽。
看看FF最近都显出更多用反手切削来制胜和过渡以取得正手先机的情况了。
welcome and eagerly waiting for you both coming to Columbus Ben and play for
fun.
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U******u 发帖数: 5829 | 3 在我看来,若真是到4。0级别的,到这种级别去打比赛,那是很没脸的事。
那纯粹是欺负人。在USTA正式比赛中,也是为大家所不屑和要被揭发轰出去的。
我觉得被高手打得满地找牙才是FUN。
这是我与尔等的差别所在。
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U******u 发帖数: 5829 | 4 I already mentioned: drive to NJ on Sat noon, and stay until Tue morning
back OSU.
I can enjoy party between sat and Monday.
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U******u 发帖数: 5829 | 5 我如果没有对手对打,自己拿一筐(75个左右)球单练的内容是:
正手位发球4-6筐,一和二发的比例大约4:1, 反手位发球是正手位的一半、正反手底
线各2-4筐。LOB2筐。我现在就是不在乎那几个球了,但穷惯了,我的球练到毛基本平了为止,再早,甚至到打烂为止--那时是穷。
对于不愿在场上跑得低我级别的人,我宁可自己单独练,也不愿耗时间胡打。但对
于愿跑,认真打的3.0,我仍愿意对打,当然也有练沙袋的意思--我毕竟不是当教
练,我也需要提高。
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U******u 发帖数: 5829 | 6 我没那么长时间。
我总是一手拿3个球,连续快速发,落网滚回来的拾起来再发。而且由于打定点,最
后球基本都滚在一起或角落里了,用网拾也很快。你那水平要是打得满处都是,那
当然得3-4个小时了。
老刀干什么都好叫劲(网上掐架也一样!),练球的刻苦,快接近老美校队的程度,
而且从不怕孤独单调枯燥。你干过我曾练的程度吗:每周6天,每天2-3小时打?从
不会0到3。5那段是最玩命刻苦的阶段。
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U******u 发帖数: 5829 | 7 agree.
me too, on BH stroke with some confidence in fighting game.
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U******u 发帖数: 5829 | 8 这个不比谦虚。你3。5+绝对有了。从你和HomeJ对打的那个段子就可以看出来。
无论你俩打单打或你和HJ组对子,我和YOSS搭档,都有一拼。
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d*k 发帖数: 301 | 9 你用雅虎或古狗找MOTEL6,在270(LOOP北)和23号公路出口交界处有,旁边还有RED
ROOF, HEYTA等几个旅馆,离我家和YOSS家,以及可以打的灯光球场都不远,价也
适中。打完球去BUFFETT中餐馆也很近。
我刚好这周末要来一大家子客人,无法招待了,否则两位可以在俺的大树十字坡寨
子里落脚腐败,有点遗憾和抱歉。
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 10 King of running practice - aakk123
king of serves practice - chen91/dok |
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v***s 发帖数: 1893 | 11 他把你奔了,你穿红衣,差点被对方绿女的打到头。还有你穿黄的跟dok搭档?
你不是说他敢奔你,你也奔他? |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 12 Awesome videos!
Dok looks even stronger than last year.
MTALD seems to have attended 2 years ago. But where is MTA?
biok is so diligent and appeared in half of the videos.
CC is even more diligent. |
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c****1 发帖数: 5654 | 13 actually by watching the USOPen party videos, i like ur game more
than cc's, dok's:-) |
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b**k 发帖数: 11850 | 14 看来还是挖滥坑有人跳啊
不过dok你今天好温油啊~ |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 15 riversrun, HomerJ, wilsontour, Yoss, dok, ken213 are all within your
range ah. |
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U******u 发帖数: 5829 | 16 网前练习一点个人看法:
正手应出拍早些,基本在身体右(or 左)前方45度,拍面也要更接近平面超向来球--才能如
楼上所说PUNCH,另外,交叉步伐不够及时准确,影响出拍和拍面角度。
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d******e 发帖数: 2541 | 19 yeah, I wish I watched you guy's good games. I'm sure if in indoor or no-
wind court and both fresh, it's 5:5 game, depending who is more luchy or in
better condition then.
I won't believe his clami his 3.5, either.
wish to have chance to meet later.
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U******u 发帖数: 5829 | 20 actually, this Aug USO party, I met him too and been kicked ass by him and
missed teeth. I wish I could play better and saved my teeth ans ass if I
didn't need drive 10 hrs to NJ and after some closing fight w/ others.
From long video ben, I saw your style and that's why I'd said if you both
meet, there is a good fight.
Any way, you both are very few good lefty Chinese guys I saw on the court.
wish to meet you later and see how many teeth I can save.
dok
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said.
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 21 Dok has the same serve to your backhand side, hehe. |
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S***e 发帖数: 4426 | 22 他打球确实是一根筋儿。不过,这也是为啥我觉得他的方法好学又有效。就是得苦练。
反正就使劲儿打吧。只要功夫深,铁杵磨成针啊。。。
当然,这种打法对进攻防守都牛的人来说,肯定是下风啦。
我看版上人的发言,就感觉dok特象这种打法。 |
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U******u 发帖数: 5829 | 23 阿卡小同学最近表现得极度谦虚,跟刚上班时换做二人,常常要抡起板砖自己拍自己
脑门血呼流啦的,让旁观的看着都不好意思再看下去,更别说再拍了。
俺看了三位的比赛录相剪辑,挺IMPRESSIVE。但我觉得阿卡同学跟自己以前在版上
说说得完全不同,根本就是比我还PUSHER的PUSHER类型嘛。不知是不是又是刚跑过
马拉松来打球的,俺觉得步伐很懒,完全不是跑马拉松的架势。
就录相上的技术战术表现来看,说实在的,你当初对CC他们打双打尤其混双的不屑
的那副口气,实在令我有些失望,从这个录相看,你要真正跟CC过招单打,顶多能
打成6:1或6:2,拿3分基本无可能。小伙子气盛,眼中无人,这是常事,可以理解,
但不利于提高。我个人看法,3位打法各有特点,水平在3。5到弱4。0范围内。
本刀自认水平也在这个范围内,虽见老,但尚能饭,尚能奔,一日一矢。可以一战。
争取凑个开会机会到3位的地面上切磋一下。
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a*m 发帖数: 6253 | 24 好了,大家都别瞎起哄了。
aka/Dxie和dok请不要再就水平高低发生争执了,我不觉得这种争执在网上有什么意义。
下次有机会,场地上过两招,我做裁判,并负责录播;酒桌上拼一顿,我可以做东,并
负责把倒下的安全送到床上。
网上吵来吵去的比较伤和气不利于身心健康,影响网球水平的进一步提高,也不利于本
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U******u 发帖数: 5829 | 25 how about Sat evening, Sunday daytime and Monday evening?
We can fight 3-5 hrs depending on numbers of players and format of game.
got back on Tuesday.
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j**c 发帖数: 234 | 26 dok, mark your calendar on these time slots now:) |
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U******u 发帖数: 5829 | 27 别的球友俺也想多会会,zzzz1和jayC尤其想手谈一把。上次USO趴梯,俺和ZZZZ1是
搭档,没能有机会对打。这次看来能有机会了。对其均衡的场上技术和反应,尤其
漂亮单反印象深刻。俺已经预定制作了一幅坚实的牙套带上,至少争取回来时还能啃
成排骨。
那就这么定了。场地请各位地主来安排,打完了球,大夥儿去腐败由俺买单--资本
家的不吃白不吃,不是?
就这么定了吧?
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j**c 发帖数: 234 | 28 好文,三个月不见居然摇身一变成dok级文人骚客了,能文能武那种的。 |
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U******u 发帖数: 5829 | 29 伙计,
人生都有来运和背运的时候,但只要有那种球场玩命的劲头,朝着正确的目标努力,
还是有希望的--这是美国这个土地上生活最大的好处。
来美国20年整,我近50岁才开始当医生,挣得不算多,但够我玩枪和随意玩网球了。
相信,你有那胆子和干劲,肯定能反败为胜,在生活的场子上笑傲一回。
其实,在美国做到你说得那个生活标准真不算痴想做梦。
我开始当医生后,业余除打球玩枪,就是辅导来美国的中国医(学)生考试进住院当
医生,三年里先后很多人过了考试进了住院医生大门。有好几次我接到电话,被告
知他/她们终于成功了--其中有毕业20年、两个孩子的宝爹宝妈,有的电话里说着就
哭了,我听着都眼热。大家绝大多数都不容易。
我也有过背运的时候。我相信你也能闯过来。
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 30 BTW: anybody can 投诉,not only the 当事人。
I often receive 投诉 from 3rd party -- esp. when Dok was on board,
LOL. |
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a**s 发帖数: 9606 | 31 carpool with Yoss or dok :) |
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k****3 发帖数: 2770 | 32 Hehe,thx to my LD, I am still playing tennis.
Are you coming to watch Cincinnati Master this year? Dok is thinking to make
this event as pre US Open Party gathering. |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 33 本版代表人物:
1a. forrest2000
1b. JudieYan, newyorker64
2a. BigMaJia, ken213
2b. xmo, deutsche
2c. agi?
2d. aakk123
3. radiometrix
4a. dok
4b. (none)
5. chipncharge, aTm
6a. (none)
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 34 I posted her SHBH practice video 1-2 years ago in a "what NTRP
level" thread. She was 8 at that time. I remember Dok said her
backhand was better than his.
According to the description of the video, she just won a U14
tournament at age 10.
direction and depth very well... |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 35 New York: US Open party
hosts: CC, asus, newyorker64, NJlabguy, wellmoon, etc.
Cincinnati: masters 1000
hosts: dok, Yoss, ken213, etc.
Miami: masters 1000
hosts: agi, harryz, flyinghao, etc.
Toronto: masters 1000
hosts: richjohn, etc. (Most people need visa though.)
Indian Wells: masters 1000
hosts: aTm, lee123, DennisXie, hatemaths etc, not exactly local
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s*********d 发帖数: 2406 | 36 dok, Yoss, ken213,
all live near me ?
don't know |
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a**s 发帖数: 9606 | 37 drag DOK/Yoss together. If too many, rent a bigger van.
Three 3 hours of driving per person is not bad at all.
We can ask how many are interested with round robin.
For those want to play rather than visiting USOpen during
day time, we can have a few of groups of R-R then playoff.
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a**s 发帖数: 9606 | 38 he is a die hard party fan. Hope he can make it this year.
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c*********e 发帖数: 1389 | 39 if you guys want, we can have a team competition including doubles and
singles. however, for the main party, it is hard to match the players with
similar level and most of them want to have fun and make friends.
DOK |
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k****3 发帖数: 2770 | 40 届时我联系DOK和YOSS一起组织,今年你们能来吗? |
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Y**s 发帖数: 1632 | 41 yeap, along with Ken and Dok |
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a**s 发帖数: 9606 | 42 Good :) How about dok? Long time not watering here. Hope
he can make it.
Coolers for what? Chinese food ???
coming |
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Y**s 发帖数: 1632 | 43 dok is doing fine - he's been busy i think. maybe we'll hit this weekend,
tried to hook up a few times this week but either he couldn't find time or i
couldn't or weather sucks.
Maybe cooler full of beer coming to NYC and cooler full of Chinese food
coming from NYC.... haha |
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b**k 发帖数: 11850 | 44 where is dok? u know?
coming |
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Y**s 发帖数: 1632 | 45 can if want - i bought 14 tickets and there were more ppl asking me after i
bought the tickets whether they can still join - i told them they have to
buy their own... i'm sure there are more ppl who are interested - dok didn'
t buy tickets but he said he will go. we may want to ask more people this
weekend and make sure whoever wants to go buys ticket reasonably soon or
just go there to scalp.
Out of curiosity who else will go watch Cincy Open on Saturday Aug 21st from
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U******u 发帖数: 5829 | 46 前年和去年参加USOPEN爬梯,以52岁高龄(好像爬梯里是数1数2的老家伙了吧)从哥市
开到球场10个小时,下车就与众学弟们开打,一口气5个小时,连续两天两场,回家
时靠吃止痛药才能上下台阶。
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U******u 发帖数: 5829 | 47 谢掌柜的美言。
飞过去。一大堆烧火棍都贱卖了。到加后从新装备新行头吧--国情不同,有些家伙
在加不能使唤。再说,以后想去打熊什么的大家伙,得整个够劲的远程大口径SNIPER和
东木好用的那种.44大口径左轮才保险啦。
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U******u 发帖数: 5829 | 49 Thank you all, my dear friends no matter we met or not on the court, for
your kind wishes and bless.
I'll flood this forum even more than I did before, and enjoy tennis with you
guys on the court and web........
Thank you all again!!!
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U******u 发帖数: 5829 | 50 bless you matched this yr, expect to hear your good news and we can meet
either in med meeting or on the tennis court in future......
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