c*********e
发帖数: 1389 | 1 not exactly, now i started to use dhbh more regardless of opponents' level
in both double and single games. i only use shbh for aggressive play on
short or wide balls or when i am completely strectched out.
i started transition to use dhbh to return serves 6 or 7 years ago. for the
last 2 years, i only get chance to play singles briefly in summer time with
asus when i can practice shbh. and insideout dumped me out for weekday night
one on one practice. so i naturally become more comfortable with... 阅读全帖 |
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c*********e
发帖数: 1389 | 2 i consider slice as a shbh. generally speaking dhbh needs half-step quicker
to get to the ball thann shbh. |
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 3 9岁打得是不错了。不过我现在最犹豫的是怎么教正手，小孩子用单手可能很难上手。
双手正手我自己都觉得变扭，不知道小孩打是什么感觉。
这个Julia挺逗的，3岁时候，正手是DHFH握拍，反手是DHBH握拍。
5岁的时候，正手是DHBH握拍，反手是DHFH握拍。
9岁的时候，单手正手，DHBH反手。
好像也见过正反手都是DHBH握拍的小孩，真是犹豫啊。 |
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s*******t
发帖数: 2896 | 4 Try open stance dhbh?我不会啊，我单反。
我没有说open stance dhbh好，也没说它不好。我只是说，“open stance dhbh上敌一千，自损八百”和“open stance dhbh是趋势”这两个事情为什么会都对？
我觉得至少有一个不对。谁对谁错，你们两个双反解决。你们两个要是一起对我说“两个都对，没有问题”，那我只能绝倒，口吐白沫。 |
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c*********e
发帖数: 1389 | 5 i teach myself DHBH return for kick serve. from my experience, DHBH is
better than SHBH because DHBH makes it easier to hit on the rise and fine
tune the angle or pace with very short backswing or even no swing when you
are stretched out. as you said timing is critical, i think it more important
for SHBH because the ball kicking up or away from you gives no power to
borrow so SHBHer has to swing and timing become more difficult, when the
swing is increased. boil it down, extra hand on the handle |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 6 dpg said SHBH needs to run even faster and setup even sooner.
I believe she was talking about backhand drive. For slice,
there is no need to run that fast.
I said DHBH requires more running if the player refuses to use
slice. For topspin/flat drives, DHBH does save half a step if
using open stance.
Because of that, I stressed the importance that SHBH only saves
footwork in low level tennis because it is more common for low
level DHBH players to refuse to slice than their SHBH partners.
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j**c
发帖数: 234 | 7 agree too, technically DHBH is much easier than SHBH. It's easier to get
into position, and more consistently even when out of position. but in the
beginning, it was too awkward like toddler learning to walk.
I switched to DHBH for almost a year now. Back then, I always asked my
tennis buddies to warm up with cross-court backhand rallies, and I
remembered ball flying all over the places. I guess the trick was to stick
with it. I played through ALL matches with DHBH, now I'm so used to it that
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t****i
发帖数: 4225 | 8 I don't know how I started with dhbh, and it seems working well for me. I
can hit with shbh if I get myself in position (the footwork is a bit
different for dhbh and shbh). Anyway, my dhbh is reasonably good and is
probably better than my forehand, hehe.
The last year or two, I developed single hand backhand slice as one of my
weapons. I can slice the ball with control of depth and spin. It works
quite well specially when I am in a defense position. |
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 9 照我的理解，DHBH是同侧手握的靠近拍喉，另一手握的接近拍柄。
DHFH则跟DHBH两手调换位置，不过从DHBH转到正手击球不用换
grip。不过我不知道我理解错了没有。 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 10 The preparation forms are different. So you will either have an
awkward SHBH or an awkward DHBH, more likely the latter.
e.g., if you use SHBH preparation right after the opponent hits
the ball, but find out later that it is actually a deep topspin,
you will need to change to DHBH in a hurry. On the other hand,
you start with DHBH, but then the ball is nice and slow, then
you'll need to switch to SHBH. |
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s*******t
发帖数: 2896 | 11
--- Agree with conservation. I could sometimes, although not preferred.
--- No. My hand reaches longer when I use shbh than dhbh, so I save that amount of
step compared to dhbh. I surely need one more step to get a closed stance from
open, but my "last open stance" is on the right of "the open stance" if I were hitting using dhbh. So stance doesn't count the distance I ran. |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 12 多谢提醒， 你指的重心要压上去是指哪个？ lefty fh? shbh? neutral stance dhbh?
or open stance dhbh?
neutral stance dhbh 我觉得我已经load on left foot, step in，重心压右腿了，
再要多压对这个位置不恰当(inside the court would be a different story). 我觉
得重心可以更低， but i may not fit enough to do it on a consistent basis in
a match...
另外球重和重心向前压关系不是那么大吧。。。？ |
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w*****u
发帖数: 299 | 13 If coming ball is in hitting range, DHBH will have advantage against SHBH
for sure. Just imagin Safin and Federer exchange BH cross court.
The good thing about SHBH is more coverage, and slicing return.
So I suggest, and I'm doing now, learn both technique. When ball is in
hitting range, use DHBH; when you need stretch or coming ball is low bounced
, use SHBH.
difficult
pace
consistent
the |
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N******y
发帖数: 71 | 14 I agree with Wangniu.
For DHBH you still need a one hand slice. You cannot slice with two hands.
When the ball is soft and short on BH side, I just do not have the skill to
put it away with one hand. I can at least put it fast and deep with two
hands. Also I found DHBH is steady for half-volley deep shots.
I understand that for someone SHBH is more natural. It is not the case for
me.
bounced |
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w********r
发帖数: 1397 | 15 I started playing tennis with DHBH, since I didn't trust myself that I had
enough power to hit the top spins with one hand as a beginner, plus I didn't
know the correct grip method for SHBH at that time, shame on me. About 2
years ago, I switched to SHBH. With the right timing and balanced move on
the court, you can create big angle shot by using SHBH. You can also deal
with the high-bounced top spins with the SH slice which used to be a defect
on my DHBH. So far I feel comfortable with my SHBH |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 16 SHBH has lower requirement for footwork in NTRP 3.5 or lower
in the sense that it's more natural for SHBH to switch between
backhand drive and slice than DHBH. If you chase every ball down
using DHBH, it surely requires more running, hehe.
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 17 Sure, I completely agree with you that SHBH drive is a lot harder
to hit than DHBH. My SHBH is constantly weaker than my forehand.
But I also hold the opinion that SHBH slice is easier than any
DHBH stroke in the sense of error margin.
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 18 yeap, I mean SHBH drive, compare with DHBH drive.
I seldom see people use DHBH to slice though, maybe it is wahy when I talk a
bout SHBH, I always have drive rather than slice in my mind. |
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W*N
发帖数: 1354 | 19 In Nick Bollettiere's video, he says that everyone has its own style, but he
recommends everyone to try at least both SHBH and DHBH to see which fits
them better.
Different people have different style. Some people can play SHBH very well,
but suck at DHBH and some people are exactly the opposite. |
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W*N
发帖数: 1354 | 20 He actually gave two examples. One is Pete Sampras, who started with DHBH
but was really bad at it and improved his game greatly when switched over to
SHBH. There was another boy who was using SHBH but had to switch to DHBH to
improve his game.
he
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W*N
发帖数: 1354 | 21 I am not sure how late is late in the original post, but I don't consider
starting at high school late. I feel that when you start to learn when you
pass 25 or so, that is late, since then a person's body is no longer quick
to learn a new sport.
I am not sure either SHBH or DHBH is easy at all if you learn it by yourself
. Tennis is not really a self-study sport; it has a pretty high threshold to
even to start. When you follow the instructions closely and practice a lot,
SHBH and DHBH would both |
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K****D
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teeski (竹之下) 于 (Thu Aug 27 11:33:06 2009, 美东) 提到:
好几年没买过新球拍了，现在有什么好球拍给进步比较快的女生？底线为主打法，力量
中等。谢谢先。
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forrest2000 (a_y) 于 (Thu Aug 27 12:17:42 2009, 美东) 提到:
Choosing 球拍 is not related to 高个 or 女生.
There are a lot of racquet for 底线为主 type,
Head LM Midplus is good for flat hiting DHBH,
Head Extreme L3 ( Pro or not ) is good for topspin and SHBH/DHBH
Dunlop M-Fil 200 16x19 Racquets is also good at 59.95 sale at TW |
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m***t
发帖数: 220 | 23 place order le, waiting....Kaka:) This one is low power racquet. I agree
with venus. compared with my 95x which is longer and heavier, you get more
power(swing momentum) for forehand and DHBH from 95x. K90 is really good on
control,do not expect powerful DHBH unless you are power man. |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 24 I think I lack DHBH genes.
I played with DHBH for 10.5 years and stabilized at 2.0.
I switched to SHBH in 2006 and now am finally 3.0. |
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t****i
发帖数: 4225 | 25 well, i am sure you can handle my dhbh easily, coz you are just not afraid
of any dhbh, right? |
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t****i
发帖数: 4225 | 26 Maybe you haven't met really good dhbh. Wait until you have lost some
matched to dhbh guys, hehe. |
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j**c
发帖数: 234 | 27 in my first month, I only hit dhbh in practice and dare not to use in
matches even with close friends, hehe. in the 3rd month, I started to hit
in casual matches. It helped when my partner hit hard, I can just "block"
the ball back. Then, last year's usta began. I made a choice to play only
with dhbh regardless of the results...so with lots of humiliation, I
learned to add spin and control, to generate power with short balls, and
to take the ball down the line or sharp angle cross court. at one |
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Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 28 No it just means my backhand isn't good and needs more practice :)
If your forehand isn't good what do you do? switch to backhand? lol
Actually I have done both shbh and dhbh. I never liked dhbh even though in
a pinch I have used it. shbh is more elegant and in some ways more
effective because you can more easily disguise your shots. I can disguise
my 1hbh so well that oftentimes I even fooled myself where my shot actually
went to... |
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j**c
发帖数: 234 | 29 Nalbandian is the best ball-striker out there. It's a treat to watch him
practice at this year's Legg Mason. I watched Baghdatis practicing with
Gulbis too. From 10 feet away, it's more obvious that Nalbandian's
backhand is at least 10mph faster.
Unlike Baghdatis, Nalbandian hits DHBH with bend elbow and very left-hand
dominant. It's like a double bend (left hand) DHBH.
Snatched a video with my Droid X: |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 30 It wasn't my favorite demo racket but not bad overall.
Loads of topspin, that's for sure.
Definitely feels light since you use K90 etc.
Not necessarily good for serving or flat balls.
DHBH rackets usually are MP size to increase the power level,
since on average DHBH is easier to control but harder to generate
power. |
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z*********n
发帖数: 94654 | 31 应该是，据说dhbh有比较天然的locking mechanism
这种情况估计多发于dhbh选手 |
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 32 Both as DHBH or one DHBH and one DHFH ? |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 33 Everybody is talking about SHBH's disadvantage handling high balls.
Why nobody talks about DHBH's disadvantage handling low balls?
Very few DHBH amateurs can handle low/short slices well either.
Not a problem for SHBH. |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 34 Everybody is talking about SHBH's disadvantage handling high balls.
Why nobody talks about DHBH's disadvantage handling low balls?
Very few DHBH amateurs can handle low/short slices well either.
Not a problem for SHBH. |
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 35 我觉得用好SHBH的选手需要比DHBH的天分好，
而且有毅力，比如小德就是不能坚持而改成DHBH的。
所以虽然用SHBH的基数不大，但是成功的比例很大。 |
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 36 我也是这样想，但是应该用DHBH打正手呢，还是DHFH打。DHBH握拍用在正手感觉上
顺手一些，但是正反手转换握拍会慢不少。DHFH感觉上又太变扭。 |
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s*****k
发帖数: 1630 | 37
偶糊涂了。。。
“DHFH则跟DHBH两手调换位置，不过从DHBH转到正手击球不用换
右撇子，右手始终靠近拍柄。
你是这个意思吗？ |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 38 可以削阿。
几周前偶和众DHBH选手争论DHBH对付短浅球不如SHBH, 看来连宗师级别的
小德也不能幸免阿。。。 |
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j**c
发帖数: 234 | 39
恐怕是男选手
手臂力量突出，一般只靠双臂打双反，为了保证稳定性，往往加力不够；缺乏转体带双
臂的动作，角度也打不开。
It's true that male pro and female pro have very different style DHBH, but
none of the male pro only uses arms to hit DHBH. |
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n********r
发帖数: 4558 | 40 You cannot use shbh to drive with open stance. Agree?
Moving from the right half of the court to the left, you need
one more step to take a close stance. Agree?
Therefore dhbh can save you one step.
Of course, shbh has longer reach, which counters part of the one step
advantage of dhbh. |
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h*******s
发帖数: 8454 | 41 我觉得削球和dhbh略有不兼容，基本上我打削球好的时候和dhbh好的时候很少同时出现
。。。 |
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A**4
发帖数: 2165 | 42 What I meant was you (DHBH) can attack your opponent(OHBH)'s backhand with
your backhand directly. When you (OHBH) attack your opponent's backhand, you
need to use your forehand, thus requires change direction.
BTW, I never play with DHBH, it's ugly:) |
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f*****n
发帖数: 18176 | 43 The fundamental difference between shbh and dhbh is shbh is linear motion
but dhbh is circular motion.
righty |
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c***t
发帖数: 1216 | 44 you, too, played shbh before dhbh
need a pure dhbh's experience here |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 45 and VERY forgiving. I feel for SHBH hitting the sweet spot is more critical
than DHBH (DHBH can muscle it), Pure control got some mind blowing sweet
spot.... when I hit the SHBH with it, I felt as I can't mis-hit.... |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 46 all my tennis opponents know i have strong, consistent forehand
but weak backhand due to SHBH, i know some players switched from
SHBH to DHBH, the key is improving your skills, no matter which
style you play, try to play to your potentials.
The SHBH player Federer just won Wimboldon today as 31 y.o. player! |
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x****s
发帖数: 356 | 47 You should feel more comfortable to deal with high bounce shots with DH yah,
cause typically, that is just a forehand shot for your left hand.
With good position/timing/swing/racket face, all the shots can be done. But
the problem is, it is hard for single hand back hand to get that perfect con
dition, esp. in a high intense receive/rallies.
I do singles more recently, which makes me feel really hard to attack high b
ounce deep back hand shots with single hand. With dhbh, that will be more co
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 48 昨天去打乒乓, 突发奇想, 试了一下双反, 发现效果还可以阿, 呵呵,
力量十足.
why nobody uses DHBH in professional pingpong? @_@ |
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a*m
发帖数: 6253 | 49 Both are very comfortable to use( POG 93/N61 95) with SHBH. XMO is a DHBH
like micheal chang tho. i think he really likes it, coz he got N95 before,
and switched back to POG.
POG got perfect control, and easier for your arm when swinging, but the
swing weight is not heavy enough to give you solid contact comparing with
N61. I guess that is the feeling of xmo for saying not aggressive enough.
Longbody is a bad design, it brokes the balance, and give me a feeling of "
stuck/pulse" when you make |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 50 Venus's topspin DHBH technique is as good as Henin's. (Could be
more effective, considering her reach.)
Of course, it's not flawless. |
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