R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 1 by Dave Hunt
Verse after verse, in the plainest possible language, puts believing before
regeneration. Repeatedly we are told that believing the word of truth, the g
ospel, is the means of regeneration. Paul tells his children in the faith, "
in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel" (1 Corinthians 4:15)
, while Peter declares that we are "born again ... by the word of God" (1 Pe
ter 1:23).
Being born again by the Word of God can only refer to regeneration, but the
Word of God is e... 阅读全帖 |
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D******r
发帖数: 637 | 2 then the calvinists will call me heresy just like they call myelsa (a person
has acceptted Jesus Christ as savoir for more than ten years!)??
I won't do this kind of stupid thing.
knowing how the Calvinists treat Christians like myelsa and imrobot, the las
t thing I want to do is to become a Christian.
他 |
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s***u
发帖数: 1911 | 3 if you only write regarding my personal belief, you can PM me. Again, I bel
ieve all mankind except Calvinists will be saved eventually.
I am rebuking calvinism because I want everyone here to know calvinism is a
cult.
I won't let Calvinists drag you guys to hell.
since |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 4 by Dave Hunt
In attempting to escape the clear implications of this lamentable doctrine,
it is argued that although totally depraved man can do nothing but reject th
e gospel, God is just in holding him accountable and damning him. Paul expla
ins how God can justly forgive sinners (Romans 3:21-30) but nowhere does Scr
ipture explain how God could justly condemn for sinning those whom He predes
tined to sin and to eternal destruction.
With no apparent sense of irony, a Calvinist friend who critiq... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 5 Why Does God Strive?
In the very context of the first expose of man's wicked heart, which the Cal
vinist offers as proof of Total Depravity, we hear God saying, "My spirit sh
all not always strive with man" (Genesis 6:3). How can there be a real "stri
ving" if man is dead in sin and therefore cannot even hear, much less be per
suaded? The Calvinist insists that being spiritually dead in sin means that
man can no more hear the gospel or respond to God than a physically dead man
could. Why would t... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 6 There are absolutely no scriptures supporting "double predestination", espec
ially the ugly "eternal damnation". Thanks to the comprised translation by
Calvinists (e.g., 1 John 5:8), some verses might be interpreted in a way to
support "eternal justification". But we can never be certain that the "Uns
elected" are doomed to hell. Calvinists even dare to claim that God is PLEA
SED to damn some of people to hell! What a blasphemy! God is LOVE! Period.
罗九13："雅各是我所爱的，以扫是我所恶的。"
Does this verse ... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 7 by Dave Hunt
Leopard's Spots, Man's Skin Color - Like Sin?
That such natural deductions are the Calvinist's main weapon may explain why
their doctrines are so appealing to intellectuals. White continues:
Just as a person cannot change the color of their skin, or the leopard its s
pots, so the one who practices evil cannot break the bondage of sin and star
t doing good .... The New Testament continues the testimony of the radical d
epravity of man . . . Paul begins with a dreadfully long discussi... 阅读全帖 |
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j*****7
发帖数: 10575 | 8 第一章 导论
这本书不是要提出一个新的神学思想，而是要把这个一般人称作「改革宗信仰*（The
Reformed Faith）」或「加尔文主义*（Calvinism）」的伟大思想做一番整理，并且证
明这信仰绝对合於圣经，也绝对合於理性。
今 天很少人还会注意预定论（predestination），即使是一般人眼中的「死硬派预定
论者」对预定论的了解也未必很完全。不过今天大部份福音派* （evangelical）教会
都还把预定论摆在信条里；预定论也曾经对政治界与教会界产生很大的影响。欧美的长
老会*（Presbyterian）与改 革宗教会*（Reformed Church）中各支派的信条都完全符
合加尔文主义；浸信会与公理会*（Congregational Church）虽然没有列出它们的信条
，但从他们具有代表性的神学著作与教导来看，大体上也认同加尔文主义；伟大的荷兰
自由教会*（Free Church）以及所有的苏格兰教会*（Church of Scotland）几乎都奉
行加尔文主义；还有（英国的）国立教会*（Established Church）和从它分出来的圣
公宗教会*（E... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5754 | 9 I found the following from google and it is similiar to what my pastor once
stated in a Christianity history class, and similar to Charles Spurgeon's view.
"So, in the Calvinism vs. Arminianism debate, who is correct? It is
interesting to note that in the diversity of the body of Christ, there are
all sorts of mixtures of Calvinism and Arminianism. There are five-point
Calvinists and five-point Arminians, and at the same time three-point
Calvinists and two-point Arminians. Many believers arrive ... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 10 in order to fit the Calvinistic doctrine, Calvinists even dare to change the
meaning of scripture.
for example, John 3:16 clearly declares that God love this world. But Calvi
nists say the word "world" is not the "whole world", claiming that God do no
t love the "whole world".
This kind of teaching is far away from the biblical truth. |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 11 Calvin's Self-Justifications (by Dave Hunt)
Some critics argued that burning Servetus would only encourage the Roman Cat
holics of France to do the same to the Huguenots (70,000 would be slaughtere
d in one night in 1572).
Stung by such opposition, in February 1554, Calvin published a broadside aim
ed at his critics: Defensio orthodoxae fidei de sacra Trinitate contra prodi
giosos errores Michaelis Serveti. He argued that all who oppose God's truth
are worse than murderers because murder merely ... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 12 by Dave Hunt
Confronting A Vital Distinction
For the Calvinist to uphold his extreme view of control, God must be the cau
se of man's total depravity and the negative response it produces. There is
no way to escape this conclusion. If God were not the cause of man's sin, ma
n would be acting independently of God, and that cannot be allowed for anyth
ing in the Calvinist scheme. It follows, then, that "He [God] could ... have
prevented it [the fall and entrance of sin into the world], but He did ... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 13 by Dave Hunt
Right here we confront another vital distinction. It is one thing for God in
His sovereignty, and without diminishing that sovereignty, to give man the
power to rebel against Him. This would open the door for sin as being solely
man's responsibility by a free choice. Is there any reason why God could no
t do this while retaining His absolute sovereignty? Of course not. A denial
of free will in protection of God's sovereignty is well intentioned but unne
cessary and misguided.
In or... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 14 by Dave Hunt
Hear It From Calvin And Calvinists
In his classic, the five points of calvinism, Edwin H. Palmer writes, "Altho
ugh sin and unbelief are contrary to what God commands (His perceptive will)
, God has included them in His sovereign decree (ordained them, caused them
to certainly come to pass) .... How is it that a holy God, who hates sin, no
t only passively permits sin but also certainly and efficaciously decrees th
at sin shall be? Our infinite God presents us with some astounding t... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 15 he is not Calvinist
only Calvinist are very dangerous in the spiritual life |
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s***u
发帖数: 1911 | 16 they drag people to bath tub for quick baptism
calvinists need to read the long book of Calvin to be conformed
so local church shall have more manpower than the calvinists |
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s******l
发帖数: 6898 | 17 诺贝尔奖获得者的宗教信仰
云儿
（转自“独立评论”）
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诺贝尔物理学奖获得者的宗教信仰
闲极无聊读杂书，读到一本的《1901-2000年诺贝尔奖获得者大全》(Louise S. Sherby
, "The Who’s Who of Nobel Prize Winners 1901–2000", Oryx Press, Westport,
CT • London 2002)。突然觉得手痒，量化癖发作，随手作了一个物理学奖获得
者的宗教信仰统计。
此书编者，从公开文献中摘取物理学奖获得者的个人资料，包括宗教信仰。当文献中明
确提到获奖者的宗教信仰及其所属教派时，编者会尽可能列出细分的教派名。当编者感
觉相当肯定获奖者信仰某一宗教，但无法确认之时，就用“极可能信某教(如 Most
probably Christian)”标出。有时候，获奖者的宗教信仰有改变，编者就以“来自某
某教背景(如 From Jewish b... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 61 | 18 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
humanoid (landlord) 于 (Mon Oct 31 11:23:15 2011, 美东) 提到:
我在西人的校园事工（浸信会）呆足了三四年后才受洗，在那里遇到很多极敬虔的弟兄
姊妹，比我后来在弟兄派聚会遇到的有过之而无不及，家里很多是home schooling，主
也亲自带领我（没时间细说），为我信仰打下了扎实的根基。
我是唯信唯基督派，我看重信望爱，因信而活，将起初的信心爱心持收到底，单单仰望
基督，唯靠基督宝血，在世上经受试炼，为主作美好见证。
我对什么神秘主义，比如属魂属灵，少数得胜者，努力进天国，吃主喝主等等，毫无兴
趣。我觉得所谓的天国福音，基本是属灵骄傲，行为主义。弟兄主义一个特点就是看低
别人，所以弟兄运动后来四分五裂也是必然的。
我个人的看法：一般基督教（包括浸信会和校园团契）的讲道看似简单，却是根本。弟
兄派的讲道（尤其是带头弟兄的），看似属灵，却往往是大道理，是末梢。
我对很多属灵大将一点也不感冒，包括倪柝声和江守道。对老李自造一套玩封闭主义或
独裁主义基本上... 阅读全帖 |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 19 Calvinistic对salvation是完全由神拣选是很好的，但完全忽略了人的责任是大多数人
不可以接受的。现在流行的解释是神拣选，但人的选择也有责任。
Arminian虽然注重了人的责任，但把神的拣选说的不是很有效。就是神虽然选了，但是
有的人信了，有的人还是不信，这样好像不符合圣经里的很多例子。圣经里的神要选谁
，通常是谁就逃不了了。
所以相比较而言，还是Calvinistic更合适一些，但人的责任还是没有太搞清楚。我的
理解是，人还是有责任的，神通预知这种人的选择，所以神选择的人必然信他。 |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 20 恩，如果Calvinistic基督徒只要对耶稣的信仰还在，那么他就确定上帝选了他，那么
他是无法失去salvation的。从Calvinism的角度看，基督徒一旦信了，就无法完全不信。
在非常极端的情况下，如果一个Calvinistic基督徒对耶稣变得毫无信仰，那么大家就
要好好确定他在一开始有没有真的信过。 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 21 another Calvinist here
everyone shall notice the three "Christian" IDs objecting to Dramear's
banzhu apllication are all Calvinists. |
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s***u
发帖数: 1911 | 22 why only calvinists are interested in the position
you and littleshirt, as non-calvinists, can apply for banzhu. I support you |
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b*s
发帖数: 82482 | 23 Hungary claims no official religion and guarantees religious freedom. More
than half the people are Roman Catholic, most of them living in the western
and northern parts of the country. About one-fifth of the population are
Calvinist (concentrated in eastern Hungary). Lutherans constitute the next
most significant minority faith, and relatively smaller groups belong to
various other Christian denominations (Greek or Byzantine Catholics, Eastern
Orthodox, and Unitarians). The Jewish community, wh... 阅读全帖 |
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t***h
发帖数: 5601 | 24 别据说了, 有什么根据啊?
Hollande was born in Rouen, Seine-Maritime, Upper Normandy, to a middle-
class family. The surname "Hollande" is "believed to come from Calvinist
ancestors who escaped Holland (the Netherlands) in the 16th century and took
the name of their old country." Hollande was raised Catholic. |
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x*****u
发帖数: 6559 | 25
你是说这些人么？
Isaac Newton Founder of Classical Physics and Infinitesimal Calculus
Anglican (rejected Trinitarianism, i.e., Athanasianism;
believed in the Arianism of the Primitive Church)
Galileo Galilei Founder of Experimental Physics Catholic
Nicolaus Copernicus Founder of Heliocentric Cosmology Catholic (priest)
Johannes Kepler Founder of Physical Astronomy and Modern Optics
Lutheran
Francis Bacon Founder of the Scientific Inductive Method Anglican
René Descartes ... 阅读全帖 |
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E******u
发帖数: 3920 | 26 那是老马的大字报，呵呵。目前天主教和圣公会和路德宗关系不错，不过和calvinist
的关系尚待改善。 |
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b*******n
发帖数: 1267 | 27
Article > 詹宏志 >
詹宏志 - 偵探和他們的心智結構
1
推理小說萬流歸宗，一切都由福爾摩斯（Sherlock Holmes）而來，讓我再從福爾摩斯
講起吧。
在塑造神探福爾摩斯這個角色時，類型開山祖師的英國作家柯南．道爾（Arthur Conan
Doyle, 1859-1930）不僅要他獨特，讓讀者一讀難忘，又努力想要讓福爾摩斯角色飽
滿，讀來可信。為了讓福爾摩斯獨特，這似乎不難，光憑他看一下你的袖口就能說出你
的職業，這種本事還不算獨特嗎？但是這樣的「新人類」要怎樣讓他可信？你要我怎麼
樣相信世間真有這樣的血肉之軀，行走在你我之間？
柯南．道爾其中一個重要的努力，出現在史上第一本福爾摩斯小說《暗紅色研究》（A
Study In Scarlet, 1886）裡，那就是原作的第二章裡提到的「福爾摩斯：他的界限」
（Sherlock Holmes: His Limits）。
所謂的「福爾摩斯的界限」，指的是福爾摩斯的「知識邊界」或「知識範圍」，那是福
爾摩斯的室友華生醫師（Dr. Watson）經過近身觀察後... 阅读全帖 |
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b*******n
发帖数: 1267 | 28 安乐哲 郝大维：儒家思想与实用主义
[美] 安乐哲 郝大维
来源：作者赐稿
一、 在中国曾被尊为“孔子第二” 的杜威
八十二年前的最近几天，也就是一九一九年五四运动的前夜，有一个美国学者来到
中国，他就是美国实用主义的鼻祖杜威。杜威在中国停留了两年又两个月，发表了几十
次演讲，宣扬美国实用主义。我们有理由相信他的宣传可以获得成功，因为他只是一介
书生，没有炮舰相随，也不能逼迫中国人签订不平等条约。但是，令今人深感悲哀的是
：他的美好愿望在一开始就被当头泼了一盆冷水。因为，在他到达中国三天之后，席卷
全国的"五四"运动就在北京爆发。
“五四”新文化运动打着革新的旗号，一开始曾对新思想，特别是西方的思想，尤
其是那些关于社会改革的思想，敞开大门。人们对杜威的兴趣曾一度很高，因为杜威以
“民主”作为他讲学的中心议题。人们同样欢迎他试图改革中国教育制度的努力，因为
他想在这个有儒家思想传统的文明古国施行他的实用主义。
然而，短短几个月后，杜威的宣传就遭到强有力的反抗。新文化运动开始无疑是反
对儒教的，而且将杜威的思想与传统儒家思想根本对立起来。让人感到具有讽刺意味的... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 29 It was myelsa's article. Calvinists deleted all her orginial posts. I am re
covering them for her day by day.
"born again" shall not commit sin.
if you agree with Rom 6:2, you can make 得救 and 成圣 equal. And in this se
nse, there would be no true christian in this world. |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 30 you have two bibles, one is called catholic creeds
you calvinists are no better than mormons
at least, mormons dare to decale smith is prophet
dare you say Calvin is prophet?
Calvin's books are trash, evil trash |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 31 I will judge calvinist
I call him cult every day. |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 32 John 1;1
Jesus has begnning
if you really read bible, you cannot be trinitarian and calvinist
you are heresy, my beloved neighbour |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 33 God is love
God is love
God is love
good night, calvinist |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 34 you calvinist cannot burn oneness any more
hahahaha |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 35 John 3:16
Calvinists go to hell |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 36 you have catholic creeds in addition to bible
do you remember? calvinist? |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 37 I said this because I don't believe in hell
according to bible, only Satan and Calvinists will enjoy eternal punishment
in hell. |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 38 see you next time
I hope you can bring some calvinists here next time |
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G*******s
发帖数: 4956 | 39 Do not murder!
He is not a Christian, let alone Calvinist. You know who he is. |
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s***u
发帖数: 1911 | 40 waterer is calvinist
he should go to hell |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 41 自己归纳，附上证据
发信人: littletshirt (小仙鹤), 信区: TrustInJesus
标 题: Re: 想嘀咕几句。。。
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed May 25 00:55:41 2011, 美东)
--- good point. I need to remove my negative comments on Mormon.
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发信人: littletshirt (小仙鹤), 信区: TrustInJesus
标 题: Re: 基督教屡吹屡破的末日牛皮（ZT）
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 24 08:23:55 2011, 美东)
good point. those who claim 世界末日是几年几月几号的 are most likely false
prophet IMHO.
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 42 No. CCwiki is a Calvinist
Calvinism is a cult |
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N****n
发帖数: 6571 | 43 这话让人颇有疑问。我记得圣经是不主张大家爱这个现世世界的。
Upon the Calvinistic theory, whatever is not a duty is a sin. For anyone
holding this theory of life, crushing out any of the human faculties,
capacities, and susceptibilities, is no evil. The violence of attacking this
doctor performing abortion procedure thus shall be justified. |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 44 evil Calvinists deleted this post many times.
now, jym0237 please see this post is still here! haha |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 45 JWs and Mormons are saved according to your calvinistic theology |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 46 calvinists
there are many righteous, sinless ppl in the bible. Why you cannot read?
for instance
但以理书
6:22 [hgb] 我 的 神 差 遣 使 者 ， 封 住 狮 子 的 口 ， 叫 狮 子 不 伤
我 。
因 我 在 神 面 前 无 辜 ， 我 在 王 面 前 也 没 有 行 过 亏 损 的 事 。
[kjv] My God hath sent his angel, and hath shut the lions' mouths,
that
they have not hurt me: forasmuch as before him innocency was found in me; a
nd also before thee, O king, have I done no hurt.
[bbe] My God has sent his angel to keep the lions' mouths shut,
and t... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 47 Calvinists are afraid of this article |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 48 calvinists
there are many righteous, sinless ppl in the bible. Why you cannot read?
for instance
但以理书
6:22 [hgb] 我 的 神 差 遣 使 者 ， 封 住 狮 子 的 口 ， 叫 狮 子 不 伤
我 。
因 我 在 神 面 前 无 辜 ， 我 在 王 面 前 也 没 有 行 过 亏 损 的 事 。
[kjv] My God hath sent his angel, and hath shut the lions' mouths,
that
they have not hurt me: forasmuch as before him innocency was found in me; a
nd also before thee, O king, have I done no hurt.
[bbe] My God has sent his angel to keep the lions' mouths shut,
and t... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 49 Calvinists are afraid of this article |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 50 Huo is 5 points Calvinist |
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