s***u 发帖数: 1911 | 1 old fish transformed Micheal Huo into a Calvinist? |
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s***u 发帖数: 1911 | 2 good
after 2 years, the local church almost beats the calvinists down in the firs
t time.
your people should send some soldier here once in a while |
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s***u 发帖数: 1911 | 3 so far, the local churchers are very gentile and well disciplined.
but jym and qiaqiafeng for the past two years always used name calling and a
rticle deleting
As a former anti-christianity, I only want to fight the Calvinists now becau
se they are so bad in nature. |
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R*o 发帖数: 3781 | 4 at that time, all your posts were deleted by Calvinists.
now, we shall memorize ironmud. He hasn't shown up for a long time. |
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o*******w 发帖数: 898 | 5 基督教产生于公元一世纪罗马帝国犹太行省的耶路撒冷地区,逐渐发展到叙利亚、埃及
和小亚细亚等地,并希腊及意大利地区。在四世纪以前基督教是受迫害的,罗马帝国君
士坦丁大帝于313年发布米兰敕令,宣布它为合法宗教,进而在380年时由狄奥多西大帝
宣布为罗马国教,所有人都要信奉。395年年狄奥多西将帝国分给两个儿子,罗马帝国
分为东西两部。东罗马帝国以君士坦丁堡(拜占庭)为首都,西罗马帝国以罗马为首都。
随着罗马帝国的分裂,基督教分化为以希腊语地区为中心的东派和以拉丁语地区为中心
的西派,君士坦丁堡和罗马成为东西教会的宗教中心。
由于地理、历史、文化和政治等原因,逐步产生了东派教会和西派教会之间的分歧,东
派教会与罗马教会日益分离。西罗马帝国在外族入侵时,领土大都丧失,476年正式灭
亡,但罗马教会仍为西派教会的中心。以前各民族屈服在帝国统治下,大多数人都懂希
腊文和拉丁文,教会易于交流。帝国的分裂和衰弱,导致语言统一使用成为空想,东西
方教会各自以希腊文与拉丁文钻研宗教问题,忽略双方交流,造成更大隔阂。东西两派
长期纷争之后,1054年发生了基督教会的东西大分裂。
西部教会第一任教皇为使徒彼... 阅读全帖 |
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j*****7 发帖数: 10575 | 6 http://www.ccel.org/ccel/boettner/predest.iii.iii.html
Chapter IV
The Sovereignty of God
Every thinking person readily sees that some sovereignty rules his life. He
was not asked whether or not he would have existence; nor when, where, or
what he would be born; whether in the twentieth century or before the flood;
whether white or Negro; whether in America or in China. It has been
recognized by Christians in all ages that God is the Creator and Ruler of
the universe, and that as the Creator and ... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o 发帖数: 3781 | 7 jym0237 kept deleting this orginial post by myelsa many times. He even bane
d me for posting this good post.
now who wins?
evil calvinists never can hide the truth! |
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R*o 发帖数: 3781 | 8 得救的条件是什么?
why calvinists deleted this artilce at first and hid it now? |
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R*o 发帖数: 3781 | 9 calvinists, is catholic creeds your bible? |
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s*****t 发帖数: 514 | 15 我就是直说的啊, 我说的是极品基. 你哪点不满意? |
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D*****r 发帖数: 6791 | 16 "His (Calvin's) religion was demonism. If ever man worshiped a false God, he
did. The being described in his five points is ... a demon of malignant
spirit. It would be more pardonable to believe in no God at all, than to
blaspheme him by the atrocious, attributes of Calvin."
(Works, 1829 edition, p. 363.)
"The Presbyterian clergy are the loudest, the most intolerant of all sects;
the most tyrannical and ambitious, ready at the word of the law-giver, if
such a word could now be obtained, to put ... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o 发帖数: 3781 | 17 she joined Mormonism one year ago.
Before that, she was non denominational.
Calvinists kept deleting her posts (not about Mormonism) because she preache
d the doctrine of The Millennial Kingdom Reign of Jesus Christ/ She does not
accpet trinity/ She believe the dead can hear the gospel |
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R*o 发帖数: 3781 | 18 the way Calvinists treated her makes me believe that the Calvinism is
Satanic
I am rebuking Calvinism for the truth of God
preache
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s***u 发帖数: 1911 | 19 hehe
Calvinist forbid us to "re" this post |
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s***u 发帖数: 1911 | 20 这话说的怎么这么逻辑
摩门教徒是相信耶稣是救主的,
结论摩门教是基督教
成立
你如果要说摩门教徒不相信Jesus defined by Calvin
所以不是Calvinist
也成立 |
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s***u 发帖数: 1911 | 21 four
gospels rules
I don't care about mormon, I am fighting Calvinist. |
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 23 I don't know and I don't care. Is "Calvinist" a word out of your Bible? |
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s***u 发帖数: 1911 | 24 If they put "the book of mormon" and "pearl...." above the Bible, they are n
ot Christian. otherwise, they are christian.
Calvinists are not Christian because they intentionly distort the teaching o
f the Bible.
Jesus |
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s***u 发帖数: 1911 | 25 I don't know much about Mormons. I know myelsa very well. She is a Christi
an.
do you agree with Calvinist?
加尔文主义五要点
全然败坏(Total depravity)或完全无能力(Total inability),人类由于亚当的堕
落而无法以自己的能力作任何灵性上的善事。
无条件的拣选(Unconditional election)上帝对于罪人拣选是无条件的,祂的拣选并
非因为人在伦理道德上的优点,也非他预见了人将发生的信心。
有限的代赎(Limited atonement)基督釘十字架只是為那些預先蒙選之人,不是為世上
所有的人。
不可抗拒的恩典(Irresistible grace)人類不可能拒絕上帝的救恩,上帝拯救人的恩
典不可能因为人的原因而被阻挠,无法被人拒绝。
圣徒恆忍蒙保守(Perseverence of the saints)已經得到的救恩不會再次喪失掉,上
帝必能保守其揀選的。
这五点教义的英文首字字母恰Tulip,即“郁金香”之义。[3]
apply
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s***u 发帖数: 1911 | 26 I only know myelsa is a real christian. Only Calvinist like you think she i
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 27 Your dislike of "trinity" the term aside, here is a comparison between
Christian belief and Mormon belief -- including the definition of Jesus.
"Following is a comparison between Christian doctrine and Mormon doctrine.
It will become very obvious that Mormonism does not agree with the Bible. In
fact, Mormonism has simply used the same words found in Christianity and
redefined them. But with a proper understanding of what Mormonism really
teaches, you will be able to see past those definitions in... 阅读全帖 |
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s***u 发帖数: 1911 | 29 这个clip的意思是,加尔文主义者搞部分拣选,部分弃绝 (是不是从John 6推出的),
就让耶稣成了might love you
我知道本版加尔文的态度非常naive,说神是爱所有人的,但弃绝也是必然的,这个是所
长的意思,jym就敢说神不爱所有人
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s***u 发帖数: 1911 | 31 加尔文主义者的定义,是持有tulip信条的人,不管你是否自认为是加尔文主义的追随者
。很多加尔文主义者不承认自己是加尔文派,比如他们这么说:我是耶稣的追随者,只
是我自己读经的心得,“恰好”符合tulip信条。
按理说,这里的华人基督徒都是福音派的,不会全面支持tulip,可我恰恰发现这里的j
ym,永生等人经常介绍传授加尔文主义,并且建议别人读加尔文的著作。
现在我在这里批评加尔文主义,加尔文派都禁声了。土豆说我打风车,这里真的没有tu
lip主义者?还是胆怯的躲起来了。当然我知道土豆不是加尔文主义者,这里不活跃的基
督徒基本都不是,活跃的基本都是。
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s***u 发帖数: 1911 | 33 I am here to 1) support my dear friend; 2) beat Calvinist, nothing to do wit
h Mormon.
as
suitable
was
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 34 IMHO, "三位一体" has nothing to do with Calvinism (if that's what you are
against) so I'm puzzled why it is constantly brought up in the Calvinist-
bashing posts.
On the contrary, acceptance of "trinity" is one of the differences between
transitional Christian belief and Mormon. And their difference is FAR beyond
"trinity" (some christian branches do not accept "trinity" but are still
considered Christian belief). |
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s***u 发帖数: 1911 | 35 no
I don't like the Mormonism.
when myelsa came to this board, she is denominational. myelsa joined the Mo
rmon partially because she was enstranged by the Cavinlist (jym, qiaqiafeng
and their buddies)
that's the reason I hate the calvinist even more when you are rattling on mo
rmon/protestant differnce.
I hope you are denominational. hope you can read the Bible from your heart,
not from the Calvinism articles. |
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s***u 发帖数: 1911 | 36 good
calvinists should learn learn |
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s***u 发帖数: 1911 | 37 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 三位一体 let's hope the Calvinists never come to mitbbs |
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 38 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 三位一体 If you believe Bible is the authorative source of God's truth, do you
realize how much you owe to the Calvinists? |
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s***u 发帖数: 1911 | 39 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 我就想知道 you anti-christ are all Calvinists! |
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s***u 发帖数: 1911 | 41 if you agree with five points of TULIP, you are Calvinist. |
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R*o 发帖数: 3781 | 42 how smart the calvinists are to believe their grandparents are going to hell |
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s***u 发帖数: 1911 | 43 you are 5 point or 4 point calvinist? |
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s***u 发帖数: 1911 | 44 don't be afraid to say this
only a cult would teach ppl that the God intentionally send most of human be
ings to hell.
Calvinists' God is Satan!! |
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s***u 发帖数: 1911 | 45 seekenternal
huo
anyone else?
calvinsists are not christian! |
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s***u 发帖数: 1911 | 47 Dig is not, he does not agree with TULIP
Huo is |
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s***u 发帖数: 1911 | 48 reformist/clavinists, dare you acknowledge your true belief? |
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