F********r
发帖数: 878 | 1 On 2/10, the states with repub governors finally caught up with the states
with dem governors in term of deaths per capita. Now as of 2/15, the number
of deaths per million population for all states with repub governors is
1496, compared to 1459 for all states with dem governors, 2.5% higher. | m********s
发帖数: 1 | 2 You can slice and dice, spin all you want. Here is the real data. You are
welcome.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-
us-by-state/ | F********r
发帖数: 878 | 3 What is the conflict between your data and my data? If you add up all your
numbers, multiplied by the state's population, for all red states, and then
divide by the total population of all red states, you should get basically
the same result as mine. You can do the math and show that I spun, but I
bet you will get similar result as mine.
If you add up all the number of deaths from red states, it is 223,745. It
is 260,848 from blue states. The population of all red states is 149,514,
058, and 178,725,465 for all blue states. So simply math gives you an
overall 1496 deaths per million population for all red states, and 1459 for
all blue states. My data is from woldometer, though not official, it is
within 3% from JHU's.
rates-
【在 m********s 的大作中提到】
: You can slice and dice, spin all you want. Here is the real data. You are
: welcome.
: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-
: us-by-state/
| H**H
发帖数: 29 | 4 还要细分， 细分到 blue county， red county.
your
same
for
【在 F********r 的大作中提到】
: What is the conflict between your data and my data? If you add up all your
: numbers, multiplied by the state's population, for all red states, and then
: divide by the total population of all red states, you should get basically
: the same result as mine. You can do the math and show that I spun, but I
: bet you will get similar result as mine.
: If you add up all the number of deaths from red states, it is 223,745. It
: is 260,848 from blue states. The population of all red states is 149,514,
: 058, and 178,725,465 for all blue states. So simply math gives you an
: overall 1496 deaths per million population for all red states, and 1459 for
: all blue states. My data is from woldometer, though not official, it is
| F********r
发帖数: 878 | 5 You are right on this, but it is too tedious and too much work. And my
definition of red or blue state simply bases on if it has a repub or dem
governor.
【在 H**H 的大作中提到】
: 还要细分， 细分到 blue county， red county.
:
: your
: same
: for
| H**H
发帖数: 29 | 6 你故意误导。MA, MD, NH, VT 是公认的blue states. 把这几个算到blue states，
blue state 也许要多 20%.
【在 F********r 的大作中提到】
: You are right on this, but it is too tedious and too much work. And my
: definition of red or blue state simply bases on if it has a repub or dem
: governor.
| m********s
发帖数: 1 | 7 所以说你就是个joke
麻省和马里兰，这两个人均死人的大户
都被你算成红州 LOL
我觉着你应该去CNN工作，那里的culture会很适合你
【在 F********r 的大作中提到】
: You are right on this, but it is too tedious and too much work. And my
: definition of red or blue state simply bases on if it has a repub or dem
: governor.
| w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 8
states,
早期死人率高
后来低了很多倍
平均来说，红州的病人率比蓝州高很多
最高的几个州都是红州
不带口罩传毒党被传毒大首领严重误导应该是一大因素
【在 F********r 的大作中提到】
: On 2/10, the states with repub governors finally caught up with the states
: with dem governors in term of deaths per capita. Now as of 2/15, the number
: of deaths per million population for all states with repub governors is
: 1496, compared to 1459 for all states with dem governors, 2.5% higher.
| l******7
发帖数: 317 | | w**d
发帖数: 2334 | 10 qalo
【在 H**H 的大作中提到】
: 你故意误导。MA, MD, NH, VT 是公认的blue states. 把这几个算到blue states，
: blue state 也许要多 20%.
| | | w**d
发帖数: 2334 | 11 qalo
【在 H**H 的大作中提到】
: 你故意误导。MA, MD, NH, VT 是公认的blue states. 把这几个算到blue states，
: blue state 也许要多 20%.
| w**d
发帖数: 2334 | 12 这样太没有操守了，还是别要装么做样的列数字作研究了，
【在 H**H 的大作中提到】
: 你故意误导。MA, MD, NH, VT 是公认的blue states. 把这几个算到blue states，
: blue state 也许要多 20%.
| G*********a
发帖数: 1 | 13 你的意思是不是说越有钱就越容易死
states,
【在 F********r 的大作中提到】
: On 2/10, the states with repub governors finally caught up with the states
: with dem governors in term of deaths per capita. Now as of 2/15, the number
: of deaths per million population for all states with repub governors is
: 1496, compared to 1459 for all states with dem governors, 2.5% higher.
| F********r
发帖数: 878 | 14 As I said, I simply look at the governor to "define" if it is a blue or red
state.
By including MD, NH and VT into the blue states, I actually lower the result
for red states and raise it for blue states since they all have lower
deaths per capita.
Just to satisfy you, once I change them all to blue states, the overall
number of deaths per million population for red states will be 1481, and
1473 for blue states. Still red states are 0.5% higher.
【在 H**H 的大作中提到】
: 你故意误导。MA, MD, NH, VT 是公认的blue states. 把这几个算到blue states，
: blue state 也许要多 20%.
| F********r
发帖数: 878 | 15 Look at post 14, after I changed MA and MD to blue states, red states are
still higher by 0.5%. Do you still think I am a joke? Three months ago,
blue states were about 40% higher,
in term of deaths per capita, than red states mainly due to NJ and NY since
they were the first ones to get hit while it was still winter and most
deaths happened during the cold season. At that time, I said wait and see
until the end of the coming winter.
【在 m********s 的大作中提到】
: 所以说你就是个joke
: 麻省和马里兰，这两个人均死人的大户
: 都被你算成红州 LOL
: 我觉着你应该去CNN工作，那里的culture会很适合你
| F********r
发帖数: 878 | 16 I was only stating a fact that red states will have higher death per capita
than blue states. I said that several month ago.
From what I know, overall, blue states are "richer" than red states on
average. So if you want to expand it, it is exactly the opposite of what
you interpreted.
【在 G*********a 的大作中提到】
: 你的意思是不是说越有钱就越容易死
:
: states,
| G*********a
发帖数: 1 | 17 难道不是越穷的地方DEATH PER CAPITA越大，不要问我为什么，简单的除法你懂吧
capita
【在 F********r 的大作中提到】
: I was only stating a fact that red states will have higher death per capita
: than blue states. I said that several month ago.
: From what I know, overall, blue states are "richer" than red states on
: average. So if you want to expand it, it is exactly the opposite of what
: you interpreted.
| F********r
发帖数: 878 | 18 Not necessary. NYC and LA City probably have the highest deaths per capita,
but both are pretty expensive places.
【在 G*********a 的大作中提到】
: 难道不是越穷的地方DEATH PER CAPITA越大，不要问我为什么，简单的除法你懂吧
:
: capita
| m********s
发帖数: 1 | 19 yes you are still a joke
because your way of determining "red" vs. "blue" states is totally wrong
no one with any intelligence does it that way
you did it only because it may fit your narrative, and that's stupid
since
【在 F********r 的大作中提到】
: Look at post 14, after I changed MA and MD to blue states, red states are
: still higher by 0.5%. Do you still think I am a joke? Three months ago,
: blue states were about 40% higher,
: in term of deaths per capita, than red states mainly due to NJ and NY since
: they were the first ones to get hit while it was still winter and most
: deaths happened during the cold season. At that time, I said wait and see
: until the end of the coming winter.
| F********r
发帖数: 878 | 20 Well, three or four months ago when the blue states had 40% higher deaths
per capita than red states, you guys were happy with that definition of red
and blue states, at least none of you had problem with that. Now you are
telling my that is a joke, but it was not a joke three months ago?
【在 m********s 的大作中提到】
: yes you are still a joke
: because your way of determining "red" vs. "blue" states is totally wrong
: no one with any intelligence does it that way
: you did it only because it may fit your narrative, and that's stupid
:
: since
| | | F********r
发帖数: 878 | 21 No, it didn't fit my narrative three months ago. At that time I predicted
that by the end of this winter, the red states would/might catch up.
【在 m********s 的大作中提到】
: yes you are still a joke
: because your way of determining "red" vs. "blue" states is totally wrong
: no one with any intelligence does it that way
: you did it only because it may fit your narrative, and that's stupid
:
: since
| m********s
发帖数: 1 | 22 "you guys" - who is this?
everyone defines "red" vs. "blue" by their presidential election preferences
你的定义，蓝州包括：
Kentucky
Kansas
LOL?
red
【在 F********r 的大作中提到】
: Well, three or four months ago when the blue states had 40% higher deaths
: per capita than red states, you guys were happy with that definition of red
: and blue states, at least none of you had problem with that. Now you are
: telling my that is a joke, but it was not a joke three months ago?
| m********s
发帖数: 1 | | F********r
发帖数: 878 | 24 发信人: FortyNiner (Niner), 信区: USANews
标 题: 57% of US COVID deaths is from blue states, 43% from red states
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Oct 26 18:29:42 2020, 美东)
As of this morning, there were 128,227 deaths in blue states and 95,721 in
red states, per JHU data. (I did not include DC.) So the real picture is
蓝州贡献57%，红州43%. It is undeniable that there are more
deaths from blue states. However, if you also consider the populations,
then the overall death per million population from blue states is 720, and
640 from red states. Blue states are 12% worse than red states so far.
However, given the fact that most of the nation's deaths occurred in blue
states (NY and NJ) in March and April when it was cold and doctors were not
experienced, it is too early to conclude which states are doing worse.
Below is the data I gather. If you find a mistake, you can point it out,
and I will correct it.
------------------------------
Below is the current JHU's death total for each state as of this morning (10
/26), the populations are from Worldometer.
Dem States Death Population (rounded to 0.1 million)
California 17,359 39.5
Colorado 2,223 5.8
Connecticut 4,577 3.6
Delaware 685 1.0
Hawaii 212 1.4
Illinois 9,792 12.7
Kansas 956 2.9
Kentucky 1,407 4.5
Louisiana 5,854 4.6
Maine 146 1.3
Michigan 7,552 10.0
Montana 303 1.1
Nevada 1,745 3.1
New Jersey 16,292 8.9
New Mexico 967 2.1
New York 33,424 19.5
North Carolina 4,170 10.5
Oregon 653 4.2
Pennsylvania 8,659 12.8
Rhode Island 1,184 1.1
Virginia 3,577 8.5
Washington 2,296 7.6
Wisconsin 1,788 5.8
Minnesota 2,406 5.6
Total = 128,227 178.1
----------------------------------
Repub States Death Population
Alabama 2,866 4.9
Alaska 68 0.7
Arizon 5,875 7.3
Arkansas 1,812 3.0
Florida 16,449 21.5
Georgia 7,827 10.6
Idaho 573 1.8
Indiana 4,143 6.7
Iowa 1,646 3.2
Maryland 4,099 6.0
Massachusetts 9,864 6.9
Mississippi 3,263 3.0
Missouri 2,820 6.1
Nebraska 596 1.9
New Hampshire 473 1.4
North Dakota 461 0.8
Ohio 5,217 11.7
Oklahoma 1,251 4.0
South Carolina 3,823 5.1
South Dakota 375 0.9
Tennessee 3,131 6.8
Texas 17,963 29.0
Utah 574 3.2
Vermont 58 0.6
West Virginia 426 1.8
Wyoming 68 0.6
Total = 95,721 149.5 | F********r
发帖数: 878 | 25 Defining red and blue states by presidential election results are not good
here since the governors are the ones making state policies or EOs. So at
least for the purpose of COVID discussion it is more accurate to define
according to the parties of the governors.
【在 m********s 的大作中提到】
: Just use this:
: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states
| F********r
发帖数: 878 | 26 My previous post, two posts back, was a response to someone's lie on that
date who claimed 84% of the death, as of that date, were from blue states.
发信人: kansan00 (Sky is your limit), 信区: USANews
标 题: 武肺死21万，蓝州贡献84%，红州16%
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Oct 26 02:17:27 2020, 美东)
不幸住在蓝州的，只能投白等了，早死早超生
https://t.me/News_2_Save_HL/605 | m********s
发帖数: 1 | 27 叔彻底凌乱了
你们左逼能不能先统一口径，KY到底是红州还是蓝州啊
叔说，你们左逼就是为了符合自己的narrative，黑的变白，白的变黑
反正怎么溜怎么spin LOL
真的，这个风格就是CNN的文化，你真的很适合
i heard CNN is hiring
【在 F********r 的大作中提到】
: 发信人: FortyNiner (Niner), 信区: USANews
: 标 题: 57% of US COVID deaths is from blue states, 43% from red states
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Oct 26 18:29:42 2020, 美东)
: As of this morning, there were 128,227 deaths in blue states and 95,721 in
: red states, per JHU data. (I did not include DC.) So the real picture is
: 蓝州贡献57%，红州43%. It is undeniable that there are more
: deaths from blue states. However, if you also consider the populations,
: then the overall death per million population from blue states is 720, and
: 640 from red states. Blue states are 12% worse than red states so far.
: However, given the fact that most of the nation's deaths occurred in blue
| c*******o
发帖数: 8869 | 28 I am stunned that South Dakota is more deadlier than Connecticut.
rates-
【在 m********s 的大作中提到】
: You can slice and dice, spin all you want. Here is the real data. You are
: welcome.
: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-
: us-by-state/
| l***a
发帖数: 1 | 29 五毛肯定拿钱故意乱统计散播谣言。
[在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到：]
:On 2/10, the red states finally caught up with the blue states in term of
:deaths per capita. Now as of 2/15, the number of deaths per million
:population for all red states is 1496, compared to 1459 for all blue states
, 2.5% higher. | F********r
发帖数: 878 | 30 Again, I define red or blue depending on the governors, since they are the
ones to issue EO to have shelter-at-home or mandate facial masks. Or say it
another way, they are more directly responsible for handling COVID in their
states. I don't care about what those states voted for in presidential
election. So what's wrong with that? Why bother with the definition? If
you don't like it, you can automatically change my "red" or "blue" to "repub
governor" or "dem governor", if that makes you happier.
I used the same definition of red and blue on 10/26, when the "blue states"
had more than 10% higher deaths per capita. What do you think was my
narrative at that time?
【在 m********s 的大作中提到】
: 叔彻底凌乱了
: 你们左逼能不能先统一口径，KY到底是红州还是蓝州啊
: 叔说，你们左逼就是为了符合自己的narrative，黑的变白，白的变黑
: 反正怎么溜怎么spin LOL
: 真的，这个风格就是CNN的文化，你真的很适合
: i heard CNN is hiring
| | | F********r
发帖数: 878 | 31 For those who dislike my definition of red and blue states for the purpose
of discussion, I changed them in my original post. Happy? But I don't
bother to change them in the other posts. |
|
