s***u
发帖数: 1911 | |
E*****m
发帖数: 25615 | |
s***u
发帖数: 1911 | 3 three verses used by the Trinitarian
(1) John 1:1-3
in the beginning, there was a word....
===word has a beginning. So Jesus is not eternal.
(2) John 17:5 And now, Father, let me have glory with you, even that glory w
hich I had with you before the world was.
==Yes, Jesus shared glory with the God before the creation. But this fac
t by no means proves that Jesus had an eternal past. Jesus was just the fir
st creation of the God (and shared the glory with God at that moment before
creation of the world).
(3) Philippians 2:6 To whom, though himself in the fo
rm of God, it did not seem that to take for oneself was to be like God;
=== again, this verse cannot assure that Jesus had an enternal past. Jes
us is a God, being lower than the God father.
【在 s***u 的大作中提到】
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_OYdHfdbbo
: Trinity vs. Oneness Debate Part 2
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL4iz6nPvQs
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s***u
发帖数: 1911 | 4 I just want to beat the heresy of trinity
【在 E*****m 的大作中提到】
: 這種辯論的存在就證明沒有神。
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | |
E*****m
发帖数: 25615 | 6 You can't prove there is no Santa wearing black.
【在 s***u 的大作中提到】
: I just want to beat the heresy of trinity
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x****g
发帖数: 4008 | 7 Thanks for sharing
【在 s***u 的大作中提到】
: I just want to beat the heresy of trinity
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m****u
发帖数: 1689 | 8 Thanks for sharing
【在 s***u 的大作中提到】
: I just want to beat the heresy of trinity
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