g******s
发帖数: 211 | 1 Last weekend, I played about 2hrs 1/3NL (buy-in 100~500). Small casino,
there
was only one 1/3NL table and most of the players are older folks. I bot-in
200. My left hands are two older folks with decent stack (500+).
Not long after i sit down, I got a hand AQo on button. There was a couple
of limpers. I raised to 12. SB, BB both called, so as one guy in MP. Pot
was about 50. flop Axx rainbow. I was happy to see the flop and plotting how
much to bet. But i was surprised SB bet out a pot size 50. Even more
surprised, BB
re-pop up to 150!!! WTF, I tanked and throw away my hand disgustedly.
SB thought for a while, and mucked, too. BB took it down wo showing his
hand.
This was a hand got into my head for a long time。 有点"正要唱歌，别人切
歌"的感觉。
1. What could they have, particularly SB? Did he just make a move on the
new comer?
2. If he indeed made a move, this is a very effective, artistic play against
new comers. It is hard to commit whole stack, even I floped TPTK. | p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 2 I made this kind of move sometime, but mainly on 5-10 tables since ppl
usually give you lots of respect when raising/floating on dry board and
capable of folding tptk often. On lower stake game , I prefe to play more
straightforward way since most fish have a hard time to fold tptk.
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【在 g******s 的大作中提到】
: Last weekend, I played about 2hrs 1/3NL (buy-in 100~500). Small casino,
: there
: was only one 1/3NL table and most of the players are older folks. I bot-in
: 200. My left hands are two older folks with decent stack (500+).
: Not long after i sit down, I got a hand AQo on button. There was a couple
: of limpers. I raised to 12. SB, BB both called, so as one guy in MP. Pot
: was about 50. flop Axx rainbow. I was happy to see the flop and plotting how
: much to bet. But i was surprised SB bet out a pot size 50. Even more
: surprised, BB
: re-pop up to 150!!! WTF, I tanked and throw away my hand disgustedly.
| g******s
发帖数: 211 | 3 Totally agree. On lower stake game, there are also more shallow stacks.
That will be easily committed even with Tie 2 pairs (TT, JJ, etc).
On lower stake game , I prefe to play more
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: I made this kind of move sometime, but mainly on 5-10 tables since ppl
: usually give you lots of respect when raising/floating on dry board and
: capable of folding tptk often. On lower stake game , I prefe to play more
: straightforward way since most fish have a hard time to fold tptk.
:
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| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 4 a lot of times you'll be amazed at showdown, haha.
not a good spot here, need more info.
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【在 g******s 的大作中提到】
: Last weekend, I played about 2hrs 1/3NL (buy-in 100~500). Small casino,
: there
: was only one 1/3NL table and most of the players are older folks. I bot-in
: 200. My left hands are two older folks with decent stack (500+).
: Not long after i sit down, I got a hand AQo on button. There was a couple
: of limpers. I raised to 12. SB, BB both called, so as one guy in MP. Pot
: was about 50. flop Axx rainbow. I was happy to see the flop and plotting how
: much to bet. But i was surprised SB bet out a pot size 50. Even more
: surprised, BB
: re-pop up to 150!!! WTF, I tanked and throw away my hand disgustedly.
| p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 5 1/3 你也不知道他们打的好不好，咱们只能从最常见的来猜猜
sb donk bet pot size， 一般来说，donk bet = weak， 他希望你们fold， 而且pot
size，呵呵， 我猜他一个weak Ace撑死了
BB raise很strong啊，特别后面还有一个limper和你没act，不像draw，draw应该希望
多几个人进来，odds好，我猜他bottom 2 （因为你有了一个ace，sb很有可能有个ace）
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【在 g******s 的大作中提到】
: Last weekend, I played about 2hrs 1/3NL (buy-in 100~500). Small casino,
: there
: was only one 1/3NL table and most of the players are older folks. I bot-in
: 200. My left hands are two older folks with decent stack (500+).
: Not long after i sit down, I got a hand AQo on button. There was a couple
: of limpers. I raised to 12. SB, BB both called, so as one guy in MP. Pot
: was about 50. flop Axx rainbow. I was happy to see the flop and plotting how
: much to bet. But i was surprised SB bet out a pot size 50. Even more
: surprised, BB
: re-pop up to 150!!! WTF, I tanked and throw away my hand disgustedly.
| g******s
发帖数: 211 | 6 是的，SB 不大可能SET。most likely weak ace, or even hit mid pair.
问题是这个时候对SB的play style 还不了解。假设BB，MP都fold了，HERO FOLD 是不
大甘心的。如果call 的话，TURN 上 another 2/3 POT SIZE donkey bet, HERO 又该
如何? 基本上就放不下了。
pot
ace）
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: 1/3 你也不知道他们打的好不好，咱们只能从最常见的来猜猜
: sb donk bet pot size， 一般来说，donk bet = weak， 他希望你们fold， 而且pot
: size，呵呵， 我猜他一个weak Ace撑死了
: BB raise很strong啊，特别后面还有一个limper和你没act，不像draw，draw应该希望
: 多几个人进来，odds好，我猜他bottom 2 （因为你有了一个ace，sb很有可能有个ace）
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: how
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| H****r
发帖数: 2801 | 7 “flop Axx rainbow.” 那俩张牌是啥？
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【在 g******s 的大作中提到】
: Last weekend, I played about 2hrs 1/3NL (buy-in 100~500). Small casino,
: there
: was only one 1/3NL table and most of the players are older folks. I bot-in
: 200. My left hands are two older folks with decent stack (500+).
: Not long after i sit down, I got a hand AQo on button. There was a couple
: of limpers. I raised to 12. SB, BB both called, so as one guy in MP. Pot
: was about 50. flop Axx rainbow. I was happy to see the flop and plotting how
: much to bet. But i was surprised SB bet out a pot size 50. Even more
: surprised, BB
: re-pop up to 150!!! WTF, I tanked and throw away my hand disgustedly.
| g******s
发帖数: 211 | 8 85 OR 83， 记不太清了 :)
【在 H****r 的大作中提到】
: “flop Axx rainbow.” 那俩张牌是啥？
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| H****r
发帖数: 2801 | 9 8,5 might fit 6,7 (player's favorite hand?)
sometimes xx might actually make big differences... just my 2cents
【在 g******s 的大作中提到】
: 85 OR 83， 记不太清了 :)
| g******s
发帖数: 211 | 10 是的。 OPEN DRAW也有可能。
Regardless，SB has a "courageous" style to donkey bet against several
players, trying to take it down right there or at least isolate the hero.
BB apparently knows SB's style. He is not afraid to 3-bet with a decent
hand (2 pairs or above ?). |
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