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TexasHoldem版 - The toughest call I have ever made!
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128
1
过去这几天都在玩POKER,总共快3天了,说实话,玩到后面有点想吐的感觉。这几天什
么都经历了。 有最LUCKY的SESSION,有最TOUGH的CALL,也有最ridiculous的对手,真
是应有尽有。下面就来小总结一下吧:
The luckiest session ever for me: On Monday night, I played for 4 hours and
won over $1400 at the 1-3 NL game. I was so lucky and running like a God.
One player said:" she is too beautiful to beat." Although, I really think I
was too lucky to beat.
On Tuesday, after my big win from the previous night, I decided to play 2-5
NL for my first time. I bought in for $300, and I was doing pretty well in
the first two hours. My stack went up to $700, and I felt fine on the table.
I wasn't scared or feeling uncomfortable. I still bluffed several times and
won those hands. However, everything changed after a new player joined in
our table. He is really good and he sat right by me. I was intimidated by
him. Anyway, I ended up losing all my money to him when he hit his second
pair on the turn.I had J K and he had 10 J. Flopped the top pair, and then
he hit the 10 on the turn. After I lost my 300 dollars buy in I quit and
went back to play 1-3 NL. Although I lost 300 dollars, I learned a lot from
that experience: First, 2-5NL is not as scary as I thought at all, and I
think I can handle it. Secondly, I am not the bad player on 2-5NL, but I am
not the best, and I have to be the best to win money on 2-5 NL, So, I am not
ready yet. Thirdly,I am very aggressive on 1-3 NL but not aggressive enough
on 2-5 NL, and I am not as confident on 2-5 NL as I am on 1-3 NL. Later, I
discussed my 2-5 NL session with a dealer. He said that I did good,and I
played my style right. He also said that I confused them and they could
never put me on a hand. He thinks I can handle the 2-5 NL, but it's not a
bad idea to stay in 1-3 NL if I feel more comfortable on that game.
The most ridiculous hand or villain I've ever played: It was on Tuesday
night. I was playing 1-3 nl after I lost on 2-5nl. My stack $800 and villain
$450.He is a young Asian guy. One hand I lost 200 dollars to him with a J
high flush to his ace high flush. Another hand, I raised to 20 pre-flop with
A K and he called. Flop was Jack high and I bet 50 dollars, and he called.
We then checked down to the river, and his K J held up. I didn't show my
hand, but villain didn't believe me at all after that hand.OK, here is the
hand. I had K K on the button. Villain was UTG. He wanted to fold, but then
he still put 3 dollars to limp in. Every one folded to me. To keep him in, I
only raised to $13, and he called. So hands up. Flop A K Q with two hearts.
I checked, and he bet 20 dollars.I thought for a while and raised him to $
60. He immediately called. Turn was another Q. 他立马很激动很不高兴的抱怨了
一下,意思是怎么来张这样的烂牌。I checked again, and he immediately bet $70.
I thought for a while and I was trying to figure out what to do there. I
then raised him again to $190, and he didn't think that long to call my
raise. Rive was an black 8, and I instantly all in as soon as the river card
hit the board. He asked," you all in?" I didn't answer. I just kept
shuffling my chips and I did not look at him at all during the whole time
while he was thinking. After about 3 minutes, he said," OK, I call." He had
about a little more than $200 left. So he flipped over his cards, which is
the most ridiculous part of this hand. Guess what he had? K 5 off-suit!
After I showed my hand, he stormed out the room with embarrassment. Everyone
including me was so shocked. I guess sometimes it is not that bad for
people to catch your bluff.
Now comes to the toughest call ever for me. It was on Wed, and that wasn't a
good day for me at all. I lost 3 BIs. I really wanted to quit at that time,
but I still think I have the edge on that game. So I bought another $300.
Finally, I got a little better luck and my stack went up to $ 700. So, here
is the hand. I had $700, and villain had about $300. He looks like he is
from mid-east. I can tell he is very tough and aggressive. He bluffed one
hand against a really good TAG player and he lost all his chips (he hit the
straight but TAG hit the full house), but he is not a bad player. He made
some really good moves on the table. Before that hand, I've been folding
TPTK or top pair second kicker to those raise or big bet. So he must pick up
something on me from those hands. I folded several good hands to his raise
too. Anyway, I was UTG with KJo. The TAG in MP raised to 10. Villain who sat
right next to TAG called, and I called. Flop J 2 7 rainbow. I bet out $20,
TAG folded. Villain checked his cards and then called. Turn was an A. I bet
30, and he immediately raised to 80. The instant thought in my head was," oh
my God, again?!" Why does he hit every time? I was so frustrated. The flop
was so dry. No draws, no pair, no nothing. Does he hit the Ace? Does he
already have a set? Or he had A 7? Or he is just pure bluffing? All those
questions were just playing in my head.I had no clue at all. He might be
bluffing. I know he is capable of making those kind of bluffs. To call this
raise, I can only put him on bluff. I cannot hope to hit my second pair or
another J on the river to call his river bet. So it was a big decision on
the turn. I told myself that If I called this raise then I would have to
call the river no matter what the river card was. So finally, I decided to
follow my instinct and called. River was a 9 and villain instantly bet 100.
Although I made my plan on the turn, it was still a really tough decision. I
was thinking and thinking. I was trying to find out some clue or analyze
the hand,but I couldn't come up with anything. The only two things that made
me think that he was bluffing were: his playing style and my instinct.He
also got the poker face. You can't tell anything from his face. He looked so
relaxed and confident. As the time pass by, I finally picked up something
from him. 5 minutes later, He knew I was watching him, So he slowly picked
up his cards and rechecked them carefully, and then put them back on the
table very confidently. It was probably a good move against other players,
but not for me. To me, that was definitely a tell. He wanted me to fold.That
's why he did this Hollywood. The move looked very pretentious to me. So, I
made my decision. I push 100 to the pot and said," OK, I'll donate my money
to you." Then he kept checking his cards. This time, he was really checking.
Hoping something magic can happen. He didn't want to show his cards. So the
dealer said to him," hey, she called you. please show your cards." He
finally looked away from his cards and said," oh, she called me. I missed."
and he then mucked his cards. Usually I would just muck my cards too and
took the pot, but this time I showed my cards almost angrily. Everyone on
the table was so shocked when they saw my K J. "That was a really sick call!
how did you make that call?" TAG asked. "how? He has done this to me
several times. This time I just trust my instinct." I answered.I knew I was
supposed to be happy, but I was not. I was mad at him for putting me in that
kind of tough situation; I was mad at him for raising me many times with
nothing and I couldn't do anything about that; I was mad at him for choosing
me as his target.He was so arrogant each time when he was playing against
me. He thought he could easily outplay me. After this hand, I saw all his
confidence went away. Thanks to the dealer because he did not push me at all
when i was taking that long time to think. The more time I took, the more
pressure was putting on him. When the pressure gets very intense, the
opponent will always try to do something to make you fold your hand, which
might also be a way for them to 露出他们的狐狸尾巴。
Later, I discussed that hand with my husband. I told him why I think that
was the toughest call ever for me. I called several big bluffs before. On
Tuesday night, I called a river bet of $65 with A J high and I won because I
knew the guy missed his flush.It wasn't a tough call for me at all. I made
my call pretty quickly. But this one, so random, so reckless, so
unpredictable. I couldn't put him on anything. No draw, no pair on the board
. It was like serial killers.When all the victims share some similarities,
it is easy for the police to detect the criminals. However, when a killer
kills people randomly, the polices can't find any clue. It is dangerous and
scary.
h*******s
发帖数: 3932
2
last hand: he prob had KQ?

and
I
5
table.

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: 过去这几天都在玩POKER,总共快3天了,说实话,玩到后面有点想吐的感觉。这几天什
: 么都经历了。 有最LUCKY的SESSION,有最TOUGH的CALL,也有最ridiculous的对手,真
: 是应有尽有。下面就来小总结一下吧:
: The luckiest session ever for me: On Monday night, I played for 4 hours and
: won over $1400 at the 1-3 NL game. I was so lucky and running like a God.
: One player said:" she is too beautiful to beat." Although, I really think I
: was too lucky to beat.
: On Tuesday, after my big win from the previous night, I decided to play 2-5
: NL for my first time. I bought in for $300, and I was doing pretty well in
: the first two hours. My stack went up to $700, and I felt fine on the table.

c*****t
发帖数: 817
3
没有position的时候拿着decent牌遇到疯子,一般我就check call 3 streets。这样保
持自己range上总体领先他。没必要bet out。被他raise了自己的牌直接就变成了bluff
catcher。基本上就是直接进入“我猜我猜你有没有”的chicken game,十分难受。
按Sklansky书上的理论。对于喜欢bluff的人,我们需要hide strength多check induce
更多的bluff。而不是bet out显示strength去stop bluff。 目的是让对手的打法偏离
optimal bluff ratio更多。
p****r
发帖数: 9164
4
yeah. I agree. I would like to lead out with really strong hand(like set)
againt manic, and check/call 3 street with top pair etc bluff catcher
againt guys who bluff too much. You keep the pot relatively small by checking/calling and let him hang around.

Once I sit next to a famous Las Vegas fish, he is a local cardiac
surgery doctor and a total manic and fish in poker. I made decent money
from him. He told me he just lost 10k+ in Bellagio 10/20 game in one hand.
He raised with AK , a pro in BB defended. Flop comes 922, rainbow, pro
leaded out with pot size bet, the doctor(fish) thought the flop would not help him, or his hand was maringal, so over shoved 10k+ with AK,trying to push the Pro out. The pro called and turned over 22 for quads. lol.
He makes at least half million $ /year, guess he can afford it.
【 在 chemcat (化学猫,rxn impossible) 的大作中提到: 】
bluff
induce
G********r
发帖数: 666
5
Very nice post and well written.
p****r
发帖数: 9164
6
btw, you really like Sklansky book? I read quite a few his book when I
started to play poker. It seems a total joke to me now.

He is one of the fish around in post Moneymaker era poker. One of my
friend used to consider his NL book with Ed miller as a classic and read
many times. It is pretty much 4th class player teach you how to become 5th
class player, even less. lol. Chip Reese really looked down upon him(poker
skill wise). He said he can beat Daivd 100 times. I agree with Phil G ,
prefer not to read a lots of poker books. Patrick Antonius never read a
single poker book.

Once I saw him play Poker Super Stars , three handed with Johnny Chan
and Mike Sexson. The stack was pretty short. Johnny Chan raised button with
95o, he folded AQ out of small blind preflop. lol. That is how he taught
his studuent , AQ got dominated a lot...


bluff
induce

【在 c*****t 的大作中提到】
: 没有position的时候拿着decent牌遇到疯子,一般我就check call 3 streets。这样保
: 持自己range上总体领先他。没必要bet out。被他raise了自己的牌直接就变成了bluff
: catcher。基本上就是直接进入“我猜我猜你有没有”的chicken game,十分难受。
: 按Sklansky书上的理论。对于喜欢bluff的人,我们需要hide strength多check induce
: 更多的bluff。而不是bet out显示strength去stop bluff。 目的是让对手的打法偏离
: optimal bluff ratio更多。

p*******p
发帖数: 13670
7
he doesn't have heart, he forgot poker is after all gamble

5th
poker

【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: btw, you really like Sklansky book? I read quite a few his book when I
: started to play poker. It seems a total joke to me now.
:
: He is one of the fish around in post Moneymaker era poker. One of my
: friend used to consider his NL book with Ed miller as a classic and read
: many times. It is pretty much 4th class player teach you how to become 5th
: class player, even less. lol. Chip Reese really looked down upon him(poker
: skill wise). He said he can beat Daivd 100 times. I agree with Phil G ,
: prefer not to read a lots of poker books. Patrick Antonius never read a
: single poker book.

p*******p
发帖数: 13670
8
if you play online before, you will know this kinda bluffer is everywhere

and
I
5
table.

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: 过去这几天都在玩POKER,总共快3天了,说实话,玩到后面有点想吐的感觉。这几天什
: 么都经历了。 有最LUCKY的SESSION,有最TOUGH的CALL,也有最ridiculous的对手,真
: 是应有尽有。下面就来小总结一下吧:
: The luckiest session ever for me: On Monday night, I played for 4 hours and
: won over $1400 at the 1-3 NL game. I was so lucky and running like a God.
: One player said:" she is too beautiful to beat." Although, I really think I
: was too lucky to beat.
: On Tuesday, after my big win from the previous night, I decided to play 2-5
: NL for my first time. I bought in for $300, and I was doing pretty well in
: the first two hours. My stack went up to $700, and I felt fine on the table.

f****n
发帖数: 4615
9
谁给个summary?

and
I
5
table.

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: 过去这几天都在玩POKER,总共快3天了,说实话,玩到后面有点想吐的感觉。这几天什
: 么都经历了。 有最LUCKY的SESSION,有最TOUGH的CALL,也有最ridiculous的对手,真
: 是应有尽有。下面就来小总结一下吧:
: The luckiest session ever for me: On Monday night, I played for 4 hours and
: won over $1400 at the 1-3 NL game. I was so lucky and running like a God.
: One player said:" she is too beautiful to beat." Although, I really think I
: was too lucky to beat.
: On Tuesday, after my big win from the previous night, I decided to play 2-5
: NL for my first time. I bought in for $300, and I was doing pretty well in
: the first two hours. My stack went up to $700, and I felt fine on the table.

T*********k
发帖数: 1621
10
if you can consistenly make money in 1/2 or 1/3, then stick to it then .
my experience with 2/5 is skill level is a little bit better than 1/2 . of
course fishes are always there, but the swing is a lot bigger. be prepared
to bring at least $1000 with you as buyin, and this assume every buy_in won'
t be full ($200-300)
playing 2/5 often does give you a slight edge on average 1/2 players. last
weeks i played couple sessions on 1/3 table and won all of them . you wont
consider the 100 dollars bet is that scary and you are more willing to make
move or make a thin call.

and
I
5
table.

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: 过去这几天都在玩POKER,总共快3天了,说实话,玩到后面有点想吐的感觉。这几天什
: 么都经历了。 有最LUCKY的SESSION,有最TOUGH的CALL,也有最ridiculous的对手,真
: 是应有尽有。下面就来小总结一下吧:
: The luckiest session ever for me: On Monday night, I played for 4 hours and
: won over $1400 at the 1-3 NL game. I was so lucky and running like a God.
: One player said:" she is too beautiful to beat." Although, I really think I
: was too lucky to beat.
: On Tuesday, after my big win from the previous night, I decided to play 2-5
: NL for my first time. I bought in for $300, and I was doing pretty well in
: the first two hours. My stack went up to $700, and I felt fine on the table.

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W********m
发帖数: 7793
11
One player said:" she is too beautiful to beat."
h*******s
发帖数: 3932
12
就像比武,一方要摆开架势按正规招式和你过招,另一方却是什么手段都用,防不胜防。

【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: he doesn't have heart, he forgot poker is after all gamble
:
: 5th
: poker

l*****g
发帖数: 1128
13
I don't agree on this one. I don't want to check on the turn. From what I
know about him, he would definitely bet out $50 if I checked, which would
put me in a tough situation as well. I had to fold if he bet on the turn
because he would continue bet big on the river, and I could not afford to
gamble that much. My continuation bet on the turn was for controlling his
bet, and I could've had a big hand too. But if I checked, then it would be
an clear sign that I did not have an Ace, which would be much easier for him
to bluff. I only want to check to him when I have a really good hand.
Actually, there was a hand that I played perfectly against him with my set
right before this hand.
I had about 400 dollars and he had about the same amount of chips. I was on
BB with 33. Several players limped in and I checked. Flop 3 5 10 rainbow. I
bet $ 10. TAG in MP called and he called too. All others folded. Turn was a
7. I bet $25. TAG folded, and he called. River was a Q. There was no flush
on the board. I know if i show any signs of weakness he would bet out. So, I
checked on the river, hoping he would bet. He hesitated for a second, and
then he bet $50. I thought for 5 seconds and raised him to $150, and he
immediately called. I showed my set of threes, and he mucked his hand.

checking/calling and let him hang around.
.
help him, or his hand was maringal, so over shoved 10k+ with AK,trying to
push the Pro out. The pro called and turned over 22 for quads. lol.

【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: btw, you really like Sklansky book? I read quite a few his book when I
: started to play poker. It seems a total joke to me now.
:
: He is one of the fish around in post Moneymaker era poker. One of my
: friend used to consider his NL book with Ed miller as a classic and read
: many times. It is pretty much 4th class player teach you how to become 5th
: class player, even less. lol. Chip Reese really looked down upon him(poker
: skill wise). He said he can beat Daivd 100 times. I agree with Phil G ,
: prefer not to read a lots of poker books. Patrick Antonius never read a
: single poker book.

l*****g
发帖数: 1128
14
I played very tight on that 2-5 table, that's why my 300 dollars lasted
several hours. However, there was a black guy on our table who played very
loose. He lost over 2000 in 2 hours. That was crazy. So, you're right. The
swing is much bigger than 1-3, although we can easily lose $1000 in 1-3 too.
Anyway, I feel much more comfortable playing 1-3 and I want to gain enough
experience before I move to 2-5.

won'
make

【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: if you can consistenly make money in 1/2 or 1/3, then stick to it then .
: my experience with 2/5 is skill level is a little bit better than 1/2 . of
: course fishes are always there, but the swing is a lot bigger. be prepared
: to bring at least $1000 with you as buyin, and this assume every buy_in won'
: t be full ($200-300)
: playing 2/5 often does give you a slight edge on average 1/2 players. last
: weeks i played couple sessions on 1/3 table and won all of them . you wont
: consider the 100 dollars bet is that scary and you are more willing to make
: move or make a thin call.
:

l*****g
发帖数: 1128
15
hehe... He was exaggerating. I think he said that maybe because I was the
only female on the table.

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: One player said:" she is too beautiful to beat."
p****r
发帖数: 9164
16
I I think chemcat mean check/call all the three street to let
bluffer to keep betting his air.
Poker is always situational. Always depends on the specific situation
to make the right decision. You may alo use Johnny Chan play at that spot .
Check/call on the flop and lead the turn. But why did you play KJ UTG
anyway? ;) Very -EV hand EP in FR game. You will keep put yourself in
that position if you keep playing mariginal hand in early position. Hands
like 67s or 22 is much earlier to play than KJ.

Again like manaic who bluff too much, the Ace on the turn could
be a good card for you. Since you gave him a chance to rep that he had an
Ace altough he had air a majority of time. This kind of situation occurs in
Heads up game more often.


him

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: I don't agree on this one. I don't want to check on the turn. From what I
: know about him, he would definitely bet out $50 if I checked, which would
: put me in a tough situation as well. I had to fold if he bet on the turn
: because he would continue bet big on the river, and I could not afford to
: gamble that much. My continuation bet on the turn was for controlling his
: bet, and I could've had a big hand too. But if I checked, then it would be
: an clear sign that I did not have an Ace, which would be much easier for him
: to bluff. I only want to check to him when I have a really good hand.
: Actually, there was a hand that I played perfectly against him with my set
: right before this hand.

h*******s
发帖数: 3932
17
a way to get your money more easily..at least expect you to be softer to him
..
but of course you're ruthless and gives no shit to wsn's.

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: hehe... He was exaggerating. I think he said that maybe because I was the
: only female on the table.

W********m
发帖数: 7793
18
Betting the turn with a weak hand so that the other player does not bluff.
This logic is flawed.

him

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: I don't agree on this one. I don't want to check on the turn. From what I
: know about him, he would definitely bet out $50 if I checked, which would
: put me in a tough situation as well. I had to fold if he bet on the turn
: because he would continue bet big on the river, and I could not afford to
: gamble that much. My continuation bet on the turn was for controlling his
: bet, and I could've had a big hand too. But if I checked, then it would be
: an clear sign that I did not have an Ace, which would be much easier for him
: to bluff. I only want to check to him when I have a really good hand.
: Actually, there was a hand that I played perfectly against him with my set
: right before this hand.

c*****t
发帖数: 817
19
我觉得你在turn上打的不连贯,虽然结果你的hero call对了.
Bet out to stop bluff没问题.但是如果对方raise了. 你就应该认栽fold. 即使对方
有可能bluff, 你也应该尊重他在ACE牌面上敢于raise的勇气. 何况他完全可能有ACE.
如果对手是个疯狂的bluffer你实在不原意给他credit.那你就应该check call. 这样对
方有ACE的时候你比bet out少输. 对方没ACE的时候,你能induce bluff.
换个例子说,比如你river out of position with a straight. board上三张草花. 你
既不想丢value也不想被bluff.那么你可以check call to induce bluff, or bet out
to stop a bluff. 两种打法都没问题.但是做出选择以后就应该坚持到底. check了就
一定要call,哪怕对方给了一个huge overbet. Bet out被raise了就一定要fold. 不能
到时候脑子一热就又开始觉得对方怎么看怎么象bluff.
p****r
发帖数: 9164
20

out
check了就

That is not necessary. lol. Always think about risk/reward as well when
making decision.

【在 c*****t 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得你在turn上打的不连贯,虽然结果你的hero call对了.
: Bet out to stop bluff没问题.但是如果对方raise了. 你就应该认栽fold. 即使对方
: 有可能bluff, 你也应该尊重他在ACE牌面上敢于raise的勇气. 何况他完全可能有ACE.
: 如果对手是个疯狂的bluffer你实在不原意给他credit.那你就应该check call. 这样对
: 方有ACE的时候你比bet out少输. 对方没ACE的时候,你能induce bluff.
: 换个例子说,比如你river out of position with a straight. board上三张草花. 你
: 既不想丢value也不想被bluff.那么你可以check call to induce bluff, or bet out
: to stop a bluff. 两种打法都没问题.但是做出选择以后就应该坚持到底. check了就
: 一定要call,哪怕对方给了一个huge overbet. Bet out被raise了就一定要fold. 不能
: 到时候脑子一热就又开始觉得对方怎么看怎么象bluff.

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c*****t
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主要check call decent hand的前提就是对方是bluffer。
我曾经有过教训。live game拿着TP一路示弱,对手是个典型的疯狂internet kid。
river check。结果他over bet 1.5 pot. 我手软chicken fold了。
他得意地亮出trash。
其实我觉得大多数live player的leak是比较严重的。那就是over bet means weak.
half bet means strong。 over bet的时候range polarized的很厉害。他们是不具备
Durr那样overbet river with decent-but-not-so-great hand的能力。所以bluffer的
over bet还是很值得一call的。
d*****0
发帖数: 1500
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有个细节问题想问下, ac的poker room的规则,允许双方都muck hand而由最后的一个
人take the pot的么?
好像电视上都说,show hand to claim the pot
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
23
have to show.

【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: 有个细节问题想问下, ac的poker room的规则,允许双方都muck hand而由最后的一个
: 人take the pot的么?
: 好像电视上都说,show hand to claim the pot

s*********f
发帖数: 155
24
wow, super long post! But a good read. Too beautiful to beat... wow! How
nice! Thanks for sharing.
1. The ridiculous hand: he is on tilt and it happens to every one. Thank God
he donates his money to you.
2. "I knew I was supposed to be happy, but I was not. I was mad at him for
putting me in that
kind of tough situation; I was mad at him for raising me many times with
nothing and I couldn't do anything about that; I was mad at him for choosing
me as his target.He was so arrogant each time when he was playing against
me. He thought he could easily outplay me. "
I feel you are TOO emotionally involved in these hands. It is a lot harder
to make correct decisions when your
ego is involved. I play best when I feel at peace and open to all
possibilities. Actually when I win, I play
effortlessly and seldom make tough decisions.
3. Why are you facing so many tough calls? To succeed, you want to make your
life easy! Making tough calls
is the not the way to go!! You want to be the aggressor! Not the bluff
catcher!
4. Last hand: against a maniac, checking-calling all three streets is the
best way to go.
5. Learn to quit: don't play tired.

and
I
5
table.

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: 过去这几天都在玩POKER,总共快3天了,说实话,玩到后面有点想吐的感觉。这几天什
: 么都经历了。 有最LUCKY的SESSION,有最TOUGH的CALL,也有最ridiculous的对手,真
: 是应有尽有。下面就来小总结一下吧:
: The luckiest session ever for me: On Monday night, I played for 4 hours and
: won over $1400 at the 1-3 NL game. I was so lucky and running like a God.
: One player said:" she is too beautiful to beat." Although, I really think I
: was too lucky to beat.
: On Tuesday, after my big win from the previous night, I decided to play 2-5
: NL for my first time. I bought in for $300, and I was doing pretty well in
: the first two hours. My stack went up to $700, and I felt fine on the table.

l*****g
发帖数: 1128
25
Thank you so much for all your good advices. You're right. I AM too
emotionally involved when playing poker. That is my biggest weakness.I
played 2 sessions this week, and I lost on both of them.After I reviewed
those two sessions I realize that not being able to control my emotion was
the big reason why I lost. I played hands that I usually don't play when I
was against a player that I don't like. I made a lot of stupid calls because
one particular player pissed me off. I also played one session when I was
very very tired. I couldn't concentrated at all. I bought in for 200 and
then it went up 900. After several hours I was so tired. I knew I should
leave at that time, but I didn't. I was sleeping at the table while playing!
Anyway, I ended up losing them all.
After all the mistakes I made, I decided to take a small break. I am going
to read three more books that bought which include THE POKER MINDSET. So far
, I only read THE ELEMENTS OF POKER. I need to remember: never play poker
when you're tired, hungry or angry. Poker is a fun but tough game.It
requires much more than just skills to win consistently.

God
choosing

【在 s*********f 的大作中提到】
: wow, super long post! But a good read. Too beautiful to beat... wow! How
: nice! Thanks for sharing.
: 1. The ridiculous hand: he is on tilt and it happens to every one. Thank God
: he donates his money to you.
: 2. "I knew I was supposed to be happy, but I was not. I was mad at him for
: putting me in that
: kind of tough situation; I was mad at him for raising me many times with
: nothing and I couldn't do anything about that; I was mad at him for choosing
: me as his target.He was so arrogant each time when he was playing against
: me. He thought he could easily outplay me. "

c*****t
发帖数: 817
26
我觉得这是男女的性格差异。
男人比较理智,遇到aggressor一般就尽量避免和他打。毕竟还是收鱼的钱轻松。和那
些有能力在river raise和check raise bluff的人打真是累啊。何必呢。
反之女人正义感同情心强,遇到bluffer(尤其是还常常嚣张亮牌的bluffer)就老想给
他们一个教训。这就是为什么俗话说"dont bluff women"。因为她们倾向于call。
l*****g
发帖数: 1128
27
同意。觉得女人确实要更情绪化一点。我最反感就是那种很嚣张的PLAYER,所以老是想
找机会给他们一些教训,这样也导致我玩了很多本不该玩的牌,输了很多钱在这上面。

【在 c*****t 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得这是男女的性格差异。
: 男人比较理智,遇到aggressor一般就尽量避免和他打。毕竟还是收鱼的钱轻松。和那
: 些有能力在river raise和check raise bluff的人打真是累啊。何必呢。
: 反之女人正义感同情心强,遇到bluffer(尤其是还常常嚣张亮牌的bluffer)就老想给
: 他们一个教训。这就是为什么俗话说"dont bluff women"。因为她们倾向于call。

p****r
发帖数: 9164
28
Agree.
I found the element of poker from PHil.G 's blog. The author is also
Phil G's life coach. Very good book about poker emotion management etc.
When you are not on your game, your EV in game is negative. Quitting
is the best option. For any live poker sessision, the single most important
decision is when to quit. When we play long live session , we should keep
asking ourself" can I still play my best game or decent game? " , if not,
best option is to quit.


because
playing!

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: Thank you so much for all your good advices. You're right. I AM too
: emotionally involved when playing poker. That is my biggest weakness.I
: played 2 sessions this week, and I lost on both of them.After I reviewed
: those two sessions I realize that not being able to control my emotion was
: the big reason why I lost. I played hands that I usually don't play when I
: was against a player that I don't like. I made a lot of stupid calls because
: one particular player pissed me off. I also played one session when I was
: very very tired. I couldn't concentrated at all. I bought in for 200 and
: then it went up 900. After several hours I was so tired. I knew I should
: leave at that time, but I didn't. I was sleeping at the table while playing!

p****r
发帖数: 9164
29
avoiding ego is so important in poker.
I played over 25k Heads up SNG game online, still have hard time to
avoid ego thing completely. Againt some decent reg, I know my edge is
smaller than fish or even no edge at all, but lots of time still keep
rematching after losing and trying to get back. Ending up wasting lots of
time fighting with regs and only breaking even or make much smaller profit
on these reg fights instead of making money from fish.



【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: 同意。觉得女人确实要更情绪化一点。我最反感就是那种很嚣张的PLAYER,所以老是想
: 找机会给他们一些教训,这样也导致我玩了很多本不该玩的牌,输了很多钱在这上面。

p****r
发帖数: 9164
30
大过几年牌,没有见过特别好的女牌手。我在wynn 认识几个女生regular, 大多数
都是winning player,但打的都比较straightforward, 不太会vary their play. 不过
不少女声是
calling station到不假,so bluff less and value bet more :)

【在 c*****t 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得这是男女的性格差异。
: 男人比较理智,遇到aggressor一般就尽量避免和他打。毕竟还是收鱼的钱轻松。和那
: 些有能力在river raise和check raise bluff的人打真是累啊。何必呢。
: 反之女人正义感同情心强,遇到bluffer(尤其是还常常嚣张亮牌的bluffer)就老想给
: 他们一个教训。这就是为什么俗话说"dont bluff women"。因为她们倾向于call。

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j**y
发帖数: 7014
31
你kk的时候,你是button,为啥先check?

and
I
5
table.

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: 过去这几天都在玩POKER,总共快3天了,说实话,玩到后面有点想吐的感觉。这几天什
: 么都经历了。 有最LUCKY的SESSION,有最TOUGH的CALL,也有最ridiculous的对手,真
: 是应有尽有。下面就来小总结一下吧:
: The luckiest session ever for me: On Monday night, I played for 4 hours and
: won over $1400 at the 1-3 NL game. I was so lucky and running like a God.
: One player said:" she is too beautiful to beat." Although, I really think I
: was too lucky to beat.
: On Tuesday, after my big win from the previous night, I decided to play 2-5
: NL for my first time. I bought in for $300, and I was doing pretty well in
: the first two hours. My stack went up to $700, and I felt fine on the table.

s*********f
发帖数: 155
32
I am a book worm so I can recommend a few more:
1. "The psychology of poker" by Alan N. Schoonmaker
It really helps to understand why I am playing poker and different types of
players. I didn't like the book at
first and felt it didn't have much substance. But by now I have benefited a
lot from it.
2. Harrington's two volumes on cash game
3. Ed Miller's Professional No-Limit Hold'em
Nobody can completely control his or her emotion. That is the nature of
emotion. In many ways, we play to
win to get respect from other players, so we do play for our ego. The tricky
and paradoxical thing is, in
order to win, you have to put your ego in you pocket at the poker table.
Men can be as emotional as women, if not more. Men are used to suppressing
their emotion. When the
emotion breaks through those mental barriers, it will be a disaster at poker
table. e.g.: the guy in the
ridiculous hand.

because
playing!

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: Thank you so much for all your good advices. You're right. I AM too
: emotionally involved when playing poker. That is my biggest weakness.I
: played 2 sessions this week, and I lost on both of them.After I reviewed
: those two sessions I realize that not being able to control my emotion was
: the big reason why I lost. I played hands that I usually don't play when I
: was against a player that I don't like. I made a lot of stupid calls because
: one particular player pissed me off. I also played one session when I was
: very very tired. I couldn't concentrated at all. I bought in for 200 and
: then it went up 900. After several hours I was so tired. I knew I should
: leave at that time, but I didn't. I was sleeping at the table while playing!

s*********f
发帖数: 155
33
I forgot the best poker book I ever read:
Winning Poker Tournaments One Hand at a Time Volume I
Eric 'Rizen' Lynch, Jon 'Pearljammer' Turner, Jon 'Apestyles' Van Flee
These guys write so well. Early stage in tourney is very similar to cash
game.
l*****g
发帖数: 1128
34
"Harrington's two volumes on cash game"____I just bought them. Hopefully I
can finish them soon. I heard they are very good.

of
a

【在 s*********f 的大作中提到】
: I am a book worm so I can recommend a few more:
: 1. "The psychology of poker" by Alan N. Schoonmaker
: It really helps to understand why I am playing poker and different types of
: players. I didn't like the book at
: first and felt it didn't have much substance. But by now I have benefited a
: lot from it.
: 2. Harrington's two volumes on cash game
: 3. Ed Miller's Professional No-Limit Hold'em
: Nobody can completely control his or her emotion. That is the nature of
: emotion. In many ways, we play to

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