w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 1 NL0.25/0.5
KK at EP.
preflop raise to $2,MP reraise to $5,I call.
flop small rainbow, I check, the guy bet $12.5, I think for a while and fold.
这牌我是不是preflop reraise更好一点?不过我觉得他preflop reraise我,flop bet big已经给出足够信息.如果他flop bet小一点,我就很麻烦.
QQ at button.
The guy before me raise to $1.5,I reraise to $3.5, he call.
flop small rainbow,he bet $6,I allin, he fold.
因为我reraise他只是call,所以基本上排除他有AA,KK. | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 2 KK is always tough to lay down.
played a similar hand yesterday at doylesroom, but in a button vs. SB
situation.
button bet $1.75.
she's an average player (i was playing with her at two tables), a few orbits
ago, she tried to steal once in SB vs BB, and got shot down by me. after
that, she stayed quiet for long and didn't play much at all.
i got KK at SB, BB was a super LAG bluffer post-flop, but i didn't want him
to come along in this hand, so i made it $6.99 to go right away.
i chose this amou
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: NL0.25/0.5
: KK at EP.
: preflop raise to $2,MP reraise to $5,I call.
: flop small rainbow, I check, the guy bet $12.5, I think for a while and fold.
: 这牌我是不是preflop reraise更好一点?不过我觉得他preflop reraise我,flop bet big已经给出足够信息.如果他flop bet小一点,我就很麻烦.
: QQ at button.
: The guy before me raise to $1.5,I reraise to $3.5, he call.
: flop small rainbow,he bet $6,I allin, he fold.
: 因为我reraise他只是call,所以基本上排除他有AA,KK.
| w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 3 你这个和rush poker情况有点不同.
1.知道对手特点可以帮助你作判断.
2.同样的action,在rush poker里代表的牌力要强.大家都是弃了很多手牌才挑出一手打.
orbits
him
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: KK is always tough to lay down.
: played a similar hand yesterday at doylesroom, but in a button vs. SB
: situation.
: button bet $1.75.
: she's an average player (i was playing with her at two tables), a few orbits
: ago, she tried to steal once in SB vs BB, and got shot down by me. after
: that, she stayed quiet for long and didn't play much at all.
: i got KK at SB, BB was a super LAG bluffer post-flop, but i didn't want him
: to come along in this hand, so i made it $6.99 to go right away.
: i chose this amou
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 4 yeah, that's why i leave tons of notes in rush poker now. to me, rush poker
is more about practising my aggression and getting ironman points.
in total, i have notes on about 11K players on FTP, lol, what a job!
notes function is the best part i like FTP, PS and cake network are picking
up on this, so i play more there too now.
打.
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: 你这个和rush poker情况有点不同.
: 1.知道对手特点可以帮助你作判断.
: 2.同样的action,在rush poker里代表的牌力要强.大家都是弃了很多手牌才挑出一手打.
:
: orbits
: him
| r****r
发帖数: 1394 | 5 i'll commit 100bb with KK, since there's only one 3-bettor there.
maybe i'll make it $15 preflop(assume the effective stack is $50). still
dont understand how u can read him as
AA.
fold.
big已经给出足够信息.如果他flop bet小一点,我就很麻烦.
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: NL0.25/0.5
: KK at EP.
: preflop raise to $2,MP reraise to $5,I call.
: flop small rainbow, I check, the guy bet $12.5, I think for a while and fold.
: 这牌我是不是preflop reraise更好一点?不过我觉得他preflop reraise我,flop bet big已经给出足够信息.如果他flop bet小一点,我就很麻烦.
: QQ at button.
: The guy before me raise to $1.5,I reraise to $3.5, he call.
: flop small rainbow,he bet $6,I allin, he fold.
: 因为我reraise他只是call,所以基本上排除他有AA,KK.
| w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 6 Are you talking about rush poker?
【在 r****r 的大作中提到】
: i'll commit 100bb with KK, since there's only one 3-bettor there.
: maybe i'll make it $15 preflop(assume the effective stack is $50). still
: dont understand how u can read him as
: AA.
:
: fold.
: big已经给出足够信息.如果他flop bet小一点,我就很麻烦.
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 7 first hand, as played. I think i will check raise flop and call shove all in
. The hand that he could raise with are AK KK QQ maybe Js plus some rags and
suited connector. You are way ahead of his range. you flat his reraise.
what does he put you on? definitely not KK AA. He is betting out strong when
you shown weakness. Time to go broke here. But I would 4 bet preflop.
Second hand raise is good but i would not reraise all in unless you just
want to bluff him out of KK and don't want to get val
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: NL0.25/0.5
: KK at EP.
: preflop raise to $2,MP reraise to $5,I call.
: flop small rainbow, I check, the guy bet $12.5, I think for a while and fold.
: 这牌我是不是preflop reraise更好一点?不过我觉得他preflop reraise我,flop bet big已经给出足够信息.如果他flop bet小一点,我就很麻烦.
: QQ at button.
: The guy before me raise to $1.5,I reraise to $3.5, he call.
: flop small rainbow,he bet $6,I allin, he fold.
: 因为我reraise他只是call,所以基本上排除他有AA,KK.
| w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 8 My feel is you all are talking about regular poker.
Not close to what I know about patterns in rush poker.
PS,I only play 9 people table.Maybe that make a difference? | w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 9 "He is betting out strong when you shown weakness."
I don't think his action is based on my weakness.
MP is not a place to cbet and bluff.And two strong bet both preflop and flop
is not a pattern to bluff.
For the second hand I put him on middle pair (99-QQ).
If turn come out a K or A(or J,Q if he is 99 or TT), that will cause him to fold further bet from me.
And yes some one may fold my allin and someone could call.
1 in 5 calling my allin would make allin a better choice.
Rush poker is not li
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: first hand, as played. I think i will check raise flop and call shove all in
: . The hand that he could raise with are AK KK QQ maybe Js plus some rags and
: suited connector. You are way ahead of his range. you flat his reraise.
: what does he put you on? definitely not KK AA. He is betting out strong when
: you shown weakness. Time to go broke here. But I would 4 bet preflop.
: Second hand raise is good but i would not reraise all in unless you just
: want to bluff him out of KK and don't want to get val
| r****r
发帖数: 1394 | 10 sure, i'm talking about the 1st hand.
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: Are you talking about rush poker?
| | | W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 11 I meant the first hand he could do so this with pocket 10s Js Qs or even AK.
.. he is betting strong which means he might be afraid of an over card to
come out. Over the whole range... you are only behind pocket As. Since he
reraise preflop so you take small set out of the range which is even better
for you. If you don't 4 bet KKs preflop. then you can't fold your KK after
flop just by a pot size bets. that is way to weak even for a weak tight
player like me.
flop
to fold further bet from me
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: "He is betting out strong when you shown weakness."
: I don't think his action is based on my weakness.
: MP is not a place to cbet and bluff.And two strong bet both preflop and flop
: is not a pattern to bluff.
: For the second hand I put him on middle pair (99-QQ).
: If turn come out a K or A(or J,Q if he is 99 or TT), that will cause him to fold further bet from me.
: And yes some one may fold my allin and someone could call.
: 1 in 5 calling my allin would make allin a better choice.
: Rush poker is not li
| w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 12 My main reason to fold, was his preflop bet and flop bet were bigger than
normal.That difference had special meaning to me.
TT should not cbet, and when JJ,QQ cbet,the function is more of a test.And
for a test, flop 25BB bet is more than necessary.I mean when the opponent
was not sure he was ahead, 10BB-15BB bet would do the same job.A 25 BB bet
make me 70% sure he was AA.
Sure there are players betting unnecessarily big in this situation but their way of
playing is -EV and I would assume I am d
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: I meant the first hand he could do so this with pocket 10s Js Qs or even AK.
: .. he is betting strong which means he might be afraid of an over card to
: come out. Over the whole range... you are only behind pocket As. Since he
: reraise preflop so you take small set out of the range which is even better
: for you. If you don't 4 bet KKs preflop. then you can't fold your KK after
: flop just by a pot size bets. that is way to weak even for a weak tight
: player like me.
:
: flop
: to fold further bet from me
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 13 actually stealing was more profitable when rush poker first came out, now i
find re-stealing is even more profitable. too many cutoff and button guys 3x
with shit and you just pop them up, 80% chance they'll fold right away (AND
i'll mark them as thief right away, lol), 10% they'll call and fold on "
reasonable" flop, the last 10%, you could be in some trouble but you have
the control.
if you dare to steal and re-steal, say, 30% of hands, you'll be in good
shape at these stakes.
their way of
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: My main reason to fold, was his preflop bet and flop bet were bigger than
: normal.That difference had special meaning to me.
: TT should not cbet, and when JJ,QQ cbet,the function is more of a test.And
: for a test, flop 25BB bet is more than necessary.I mean when the opponent
: was not sure he was ahead, 10BB-15BB bet would do the same job.A 25 BB bet
: make me 70% sure he was AA.
: Sure there are players betting unnecessarily big in this situation but their way of
: playing is -EV and I would assume I am d
| w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 14 0.05/0.1比较难read.66打得跟AA似的.层次不太清.确实比较难于靠bet size来判断.最
好的办法是等大牌.
现在到0.1/0.25试小球派,好象效果更好.
我自己的心得,小球牌里位置比牌力更重要.每次的战斗,挑选自己在有利位置,然后根据对
方行动决定自己怎么打. | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 15 ppl care less at smaller stake.
as for small ball, they're more like drawing hands in essence, so position
rules. also, with position, they can represent a much wider range, so can be
played much stronger if checked to.
without position, they need to be sneaky. well, more fun too, lol.
据对
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: 0.05/0.1比较难read.66打得跟AA似的.层次不太清.确实比较难于靠bet size来判断.最
: 好的办法是等大牌.
: 现在到0.1/0.25试小球派,好象效果更好.
: 我自己的心得,小球牌里位置比牌力更重要.每次的战斗,挑选自己在有利位置,然后根据对
: 方行动决定自己怎么打.
| w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 16 I don't know if this is "real small ball".
I just use carps from later position to steal a lot of small pots, without
much fight.
It is "small bluff steal small pot."
For big pots, I guess bluff doesn't work too well, winning is decided by
quality of hand.
be
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: ppl care less at smaller stake.
: as for small ball, they're more like drawing hands in essence, so position
: rules. also, with position, they can represent a much wider range, so can be
: played much stronger if checked to.
: without position, they need to be sneaky. well, more fun too, lol.
:
: 据对
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