h****a
发帖数: 5058 | | l******n
发帖数: 641 | 2 wsop before bubble, one guy fold AKs vs Ivy 77 before flop, right?
【在 h****a 的大作中提到】
: 有没有牛人AK在手,别人all in不跟的？
| h****a
发帖数: 5058 | 3 这属于极其特殊的情况了吧？呵呵
【在 l******n 的大作中提到】
: wsop before bubble, one guy fold AKs vs Ivy 77 before flop, right?
| l******n
发帖数: 641 | 4 but he didn't know what ivy have yet,
ivy normal raises most of the time
【在 h****a 的大作中提到】
: 这属于极其特殊的情况了吧？呵呵
| c***a
发帖数: 309 | 5 another guy folded KK against someone's Kx all in (I believe it's A or K) before bubble
:)
【在 l******n 的大作中提到】
: wsop before bubble, one guy fold AKs vs Ivy 77 before flop, right?
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 6 i'm not 牛人 but did fold one recently in an MTT which i finished 2nd after
deal.
there were like 30 ppl left, 800/1600, i had 80K chips and was 4th.
i raised 3x to 4800 with AsKs from UTG+1, cutoff guy shoved 30K... i took a
few seconds and folded.
1) with 50BB (47BB after folding), it's still very deep, and i had no reason
to gamble with a drawing hand (yes, AK is a drawing hand) for almost half
of my stack;
2) i played pretty tight during the game, and had been at this table for a
while, everyo
【在 h****a 的大作中提到】
: 有没有牛人AK在手,别人all in不跟的？
| l***q
发帖数: 62 | 7 不知道楼主是不是说的tournament，如果是tournament后期，有效stack都小于10BB，
又不是bubble，AK一般要跟。
但是Cash game里面正常stack AK不跟太正常了，如果有效stack大于100BB，我AK一般
都要放给4 Bet。昨天的一手牌，我在CO，fold到我前面一土人，raise to 6BB，我AKs
，reraise to 13BB，又fold到土人，土人推出一大把，至少60BB，我在1秒钟内就扔了
我的AKs，并亮给他看。他也亮出KK。我如果call可以说绝对要把自己的150BB commit
了，而他除了AA就是KK，难道还有比这个更糟糕的情况？ | h****a
发帖数: 5058 | 8 我想问的是平常的情况。
太牛了，要是我AK在手，
又投资了，从来就没有不跟过，
想着就算碰到AA，机会也有一些，
TT以上，基本有求必应，呵呵，
又学习了一下。 | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 9 oh, 平常的情况, then AK is even worthless to call an all-in (if not too
short).
rule #1, AK is just a drawing hand, hehe.
【在 h****a 的大作中提到】
: 我想问的是平常的情况。
: 太牛了，要是我AK在手，
: 又投资了，从来就没有不跟过，
: 想着就算碰到AA，机会也有一些，
: TT以上，基本有求必应，呵呵，
: 又学习了一下。
| h****a
发帖数: 5058 | 10 你太牛了。
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: oh, 平常的情况, then AK is even worthless to call an all-in (if not too
: short).
: rule #1, AK is just a drawing hand, hehe.
| | | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 11 no 牛, it's just bad lessons learned...
AK is a drawing hand, AND most of time, drawing to a pair only.
【在 h****a 的大作中提到】
: 你太牛了。
| c***a
发帖数: 309 | 12 good fold.
after
a
reason
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: i'm not 牛人 but did fold one recently in an MTT which i finished 2nd after
: deal.
: there were like 30 ppl left, 800/1600, i had 80K chips and was 4th.
: i raised 3x to 4800 with AsKs from UTG+1, cutoff guy shoved 30K... i took a
: few seconds and folded.
: 1) with 50BB (47BB after folding), it's still very deep, and i had no reason
: to gamble with a drawing hand (yes, AK is a drawing hand) for almost half
: of my stack;
: 2) i played pretty tight during the game, and had been at this table for a
: while, everyo
| T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 13 In tournament, AK can call most hands, excpet it is close to bubble or final
table.
In cash game, AK doesn't worth much, it is a drawing hand. Without hitting
the board, it can't beat a pari 2s. Even you hit your card, it is only a
TPTK, you usually only win a small pot but occasionally you lose a big one
if sb else hit a set or two pairs. That is why I don't like AK that much. I
don't even like big pocket pair that much because those hands win small pots
but tend to lose big ones.
Based my expe | q****8
发帖数: 3281 | 14 打cash game不跟很正常,但经常AK先ALL-IN | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 15 nod.
but you mean you don't like your ID? lol.
final
I
pots
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: In tournament, AK can call most hands, excpet it is close to bubble or final
: table.
: In cash game, AK doesn't worth much, it is a drawing hand. Without hitting
: the board, it can't beat a pari 2s. Even you hit your card, it is only a
: TPTK, you usually only win a small pot but occasionally you lose a big one
: if sb else hit a set or two pairs. That is why I don't like AK that much. I
: don't even like big pocket pair that much because those hands win small pots
: but tend to lose big ones.
: Based my expe
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