K****D
发帖数: 30533 | |
p*****u
发帖数: 711 | |
z*********n
发帖数: 94654 | |
p*****u
发帖数: 711 | 4 白衣东方正手， 每次都拉不过网，看着很着急啊， 红衣感觉4.5 |
c*****s
发帖数: 2146 | |
d******x
发帖数: 11837 | 6 白衣强4或者弱4.5，红衣深不可测啊。。。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKlnvxtLZvs
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v***s
发帖数: 1893 | 7 白衣5.0，红衣保守点5.5+
红衣大概用了三成功力，发球估计用的是三发，正手不是挡就是削，反手都是削。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKlnvxtLZvs
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m*****x
发帖数: 50 | 8 同意。红艺人 应该能够秒杀 板上大多数人
【在 d******x 的大作中提到】
: 白衣强4或者弱4.5，红衣深不可测啊。。。
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n**u
发帖数: 768 | 9 agreed.
红衣 might be a strong Div 1 single player (or at least be able to get the
scholarship if he want to). Might be having a shoulder injury (slice serve
and too much BH slice).
白衣 is more like a strong Div II single player.
【在 v***s 的大作中提到】
: 白衣5.0，红衣保守点5.5+
: 红衣大概用了三成功力，发球估计用的是三发，正手不是挡就是削，反手都是削。
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n**u
发帖数: 768 | 10 100%. no survivors. hehe
Even the white shirt would probably have the upper hand against the best
here.
【在 m*****x 的大作中提到】
: 同意。红艺人 应该能够秒杀 板上大多数人
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c****3
发帖数: 189 | |
b**k
发帖数: 268 | |
a*****0
发帖数: 6788 | 13 就比赛而言5.0. 白衣的网前打得太差. 很多简单的volley都没打中. 看样子不是他打
法,是知道底线不可能打过才不得已为之.
中间有两分红衣的稍显了点本事, 一个是发球, 另一个是很快的往前移动. |
g***i
发帖数: 161 | |
w*****e
发帖数: 309 | 15 They way they played(shot selection, power, etc) is very different from what
I saw here. Closer to those on TV. So I guess they are kinda pro.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKlnvxtLZvs
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k****3
发帖数: 2770 | 16 我觉得红衣服的在调戏白衣服的，至少5.0-5.5的水准。这只是比赛水准，不代表红衣
服的水平可能还要更高几个层次 |
b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 17 are you guys kidding me.... Why are we so strict on fellow WSN but so
lenient on Lao Wai?
I would say white = mid 4.0; Red (assuming he played his game) = maybe a 4.5
(could be like LJ style, hard to gauge) but no way he can even make it to
the div II though. |
k****3
发帖数: 2770 | 18 那个白衣服的发球都不止4.0了，4.5都没几个发的比他好啊。红衣服的最后露的几手很
牛啊，最后还搞了几个真正的一发压线，不可能是4.5的水平。
.5
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: are you guys kidding me.... Why are we so strict on fellow WSN but so
: lenient on Lao Wai?
: I would say white = mid 4.0; Red (assuming he played his game) = maybe a 4.5
: (could be like LJ style, hard to gauge) but no way he can even make it to
: the div II though.
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c****3
发帖数: 189 | 19 DIV I could be 6.0 ~ 7.0 (John Isner)
DIV II can be 5.0 ~ 6.0
The red guy can easily beat NJ/NY/CA fellows with 1 or 0.
Look at the ball speed of the white guy. Don't forget when you comment your
own videos, you guys always insist that in the video ball speed is much
lower than real. But these guys' ball speed is obviously much higher than
yours.
.5
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: are you guys kidding me.... Why are we so strict on fellow WSN but so
: lenient on Lao Wai?
: I would say white = mid 4.0; Red (assuming he played his game) = maybe a 4.5
: (could be like LJ style, hard to gauge) but no way he can even make it to
: the div II though.
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s****t
发帖数: 17096 | 20 我发现了，版上天天吵几点几的风气都是肯尼迪带出来的
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKlnvxtLZvs
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s****t
发帖数: 17096 | 21 看不出来，但至少不是3.5一下，或者5.5以上
rating这种事情有个最重要的东西是consistency，如果为了拍video，4.0的也能打出5
.0的球，而且跟谁是hitting partner很有关系，但要能场场打出5.0的求才算5.0
相反同理
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKlnvxtLZvs
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 22 true, when I watch the video of myself, I would guess mid 4.0 at best too
lol Still... i think they are over rated by ppl above.
I would say I seen many 4.5s that has better serves, the ones that don't,
have other weapons...
Count how many steps the white shirt take to get to the net after his serve.
.. go watch some 4.5s dubs and count how many steps they take, then go watch
the 5.0s...
Well, i guess white shirt did played a bit better later, but the red shirt
was pretty much just pushing the ball back (with good placement)... hard to
say... i'm ok with saying he might be a 4.5 but no any higher
【在 k****3 的大作中提到】
: 那个白衣服的发球都不止4.0了，4.5都没几个发的比他好啊。红衣服的最后露的几手很
: 牛啊，最后还搞了几个真正的一发压线，不可能是4.5的水平。
:
: .5
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 23 i'm more focused on the overall flow of his movement along with his strokes.
.. i have never seen any 5.0 have choppy game as the white shirt.
red shirt has a better flow of game, but if that's his normal game, IMO his
shot is not good enough to be a 5.0.
your
【在 c****3 的大作中提到】
: DIV I could be 6.0 ~ 7.0 (John Isner)
: DIV II can be 5.0 ~ 6.0
: The red guy can easily beat NJ/NY/CA fellows with 1 or 0.
: Look at the ball speed of the white guy. Don't forget when you comment your
: own videos, you guys always insist that in the video ball speed is much
: lower than real. But these guys' ball speed is obviously much higher than
: yours.
:
: .5
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a*m
发帖数: 6253 | |
z*********n
发帖数: 94654 | 25 这俩球赛很好看，所以，直接4.5以上，呵呵
至于是5.0还是5.5不知道，等你们高手细细评价
个人觉得4.5以下比赛不会这么好看
strokes.
his
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: i'm more focused on the overall flow of his movement along with his strokes.
: .. i have never seen any 5.0 have choppy game as the white shirt.
: red shirt has a better flow of game, but if that's his normal game, IMO his
: shot is not good enough to be a 5.0.
:
: your
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i*********r
发帖数: 5101 | 26 disagree. the red shirt is at least 5.0, just see how clean he hit the ball,
the ball placement, then watch the last couple of serves of his, he was
toying with the white shirt.
strokes.
his
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: i'm more focused on the overall flow of his movement along with his strokes.
: .. i have never seen any 5.0 have choppy game as the white shirt.
: red shirt has a better flow of game, but if that's his normal game, IMO his
: shot is not good enough to be a 5.0.
:
: your
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 27 I do agree red shot hits very clean and have a good foot works. My point is
if what's in the video is his normal game then he's not a 5.0. But like you
and other said, he could just be toying with the white, thus it's hard to
gauge.
ball,
【在 i*********r 的大作中提到】
: disagree. the red shirt is at least 5.0, just see how clean he hit the ball,
: the ball placement, then watch the last couple of serves of his, he was
: toying with the white shirt.
:
: strokes.
: his
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i**t
发帖数: 921 | 28 This is a typical 5.0 vs 6.0
white shirt is a solid 5.0, can generate pace on both forehand and backhand.
but facing a much stronger player he tends to over hit and as a result much
more errors than he normally would. First serve is a weapon and second
serve has placement. Many of his normal shots could be a winner against
average guys.
red shirt is like a pro, handles pace with ease. very consistent. obviously
didn't go all out because he is at least 1.0 level better than the white
shirt. white shirt can not finish off him. the running forehand at 15:00 is
a typical hallmark of a 6.0, ie hit winner against winner. |
c****3
发帖数: 189 | 29 我也觉得红衣人深不可测, 而且动作很正统, 好象有伤在身, 所以随便打打. 到最后才
发球变猛起来. 反手也并不时只会削, 后来也开始TOP SPIN. 5.5 以下根本打不出这水
平.
球的方向确实有PRO的影子. 而白衣的正手和反手, 高压等的力量, 比这里众多4.5 高
一个水平. 所以5.0 有的. |
i*********r
发帖数: 5101 | 30 IMO, just based on his effortlessness, he is at least 5.0
is
you
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: I do agree red shot hits very clean and have a good foot works. My point is
: if what's in the video is his normal game then he's not a 5.0. But like you
: and other said, he could just be toying with the white, thus it's hard to
: gauge.
:
: ball,
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d******x
发帖数: 11837 | 31 这个红得显然随便耍耍。你有看过那个5.5正反手削球的老头的视频吗？
is
you
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: I do agree red shot hits very clean and have a good foot works. My point is
: if what's in the video is his normal game then he's not a 5.0. But like you
: and other said, he could just be toying with the white, thus it's hard to
: gauge.
:
: ball,
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r*********x
发帖数: 3016 | 32 众多没被关起来的高手躺枪了。
【在 a*m 的大作中提到】
: 因为高手都被我关起来了，哈哈
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z*********n
发帖数: 94654 | 33 真相啊，总算知道为啥被放出来了，低手，没资格进高干疗养院
【在 r*********x 的大作中提到】
: 众多没被关起来的高手躺枪了。
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d******x
发帖数: 11837 | 34 你不服是吧？南下sd挑之。。。别忘了录像哈。。。
【在 r*********x 的大作中提到】
: 众多没被关起来的高手躺枪了。
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i**t
发帖数: 921 | 35 white shirt uploaded a video of speed test his serve, over 110mph, how many
4.5 can do that?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQY7_O0F6u4&feature=c4-overview-
serve.
watch
to
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: true, when I watch the video of myself, I would guess mid 4.0 at best too
: lol Still... i think they are over rated by ppl above.
: I would say I seen many 4.5s that has better serves, the ones that don't,
: have other weapons...
: Count how many steps the white shirt take to get to the net after his serve.
: .. go watch some 4.5s dubs and count how many steps they take, then go watch
: the 5.0s...
: Well, i guess white shirt did played a bit better later, but the red shirt
: was pretty much just pushing the ball back (with good placement)... hard to
: say... i'm ok with saying he might be a 4.5 but no any higher
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z********4
发帖数: 1668 | |
c***t
发帖数: 1216 | 37 俩人水平都超过我能理解的范围了
只好Google了
5.5 vs 4.5
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKlnvxtLZvs
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 38 Gauging rating is not my forte, these two is may be far better than I give
them credit for. |
a**s
发帖数: 9606 | |
b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 40 cool 4.5 vs 5.5... so the red shirt guy didn't play 100% and still killed
the 4.5. The difference of 1.0 gap. =)
【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
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a**s
发帖数: 9606 | 41 Now he is about 5.0. Look at him play with a 4.0:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJrhKxIsUgw&hd=1
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: cool 4.5 vs 5.5... so the red shirt guy didn't play 100% and still killed
: the 4.5. The difference of 1.0 gap. =)
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i*********r
发帖数: 5101 | 42 赞
【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: Now he is about 5.0. Look at him play with a 4.0:
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJrhKxIsUgw&hd=1
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a**s
发帖数: 9606 | 43 nnd法国老的rating也不靠谱吗，看看人家的这3.5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHozC3JD1_o&hd=1
【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: Now he is about 5.0. Look at him play with a 4.0:
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJrhKxIsUgw&hd=1
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s***i
发帖数: 6149 | 44 im no expert, but i am pretty sure you would have very little chance beating
either of them. i watched for probably 20 seconds.
serve.
watch
to
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: true, when I watch the video of myself, I would guess mid 4.0 at best too
: lol Still... i think they are over rated by ppl above.
: I would say I seen many 4.5s that has better serves, the ones that don't,
: have other weapons...
: Count how many steps the white shirt take to get to the net after his serve.
: .. go watch some 4.5s dubs and count how many steps they take, then go watch
: the 5.0s...
: Well, i guess white shirt did played a bit better later, but the red shirt
: was pretty much just pushing the ball back (with good placement)... hard to
: say... i'm ok with saying he might be a 4.5 but no any higher
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i*********r
发帖数: 5101 | 45 Rating 都是浮云啊
【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: nnd法国老的rating也不靠谱吗，看看人家的这3.5
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHozC3JD1_o&hd=1
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s***i
发帖数: 6149 | 46 99.9%
【在 m*****x 的大作中提到】
: 同意。红艺人 应该能够秒杀 板上大多数人
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 47 yea. Opponent's level and game style really matters. Thanks for sharing
【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: Now he is about 5.0. Look at him play with a 4.0:
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJrhKxIsUgw&hd=1
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 48 maybe, maybe not does it really matter? Why bring these kind stuff to a
personal level? I only care about improving my tennis skills, whether
someone who can kick my @$$ or if I can beat up the other guy, is not my
concern. Play your game and let the results speak for itself.
Maybe you play tennis for a different reason, that's fine to. You are
entitle to whatever you choose.
beating
【在 s***i 的大作中提到】
: im no expert, but i am pretty sure you would have very little chance beating
: either of them. i watched for probably 20 seconds.
:
: serve.
: watch
: to
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i*********r
发帖数: 5101 | 49 和白衣还是有一拼的
beating
【在 s***i 的大作中提到】
: im no expert, but i am pretty sure you would have very little chance beating
: either of them. i watched for probably 20 seconds.
:
: serve.
: watch
: to
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s***i
发帖数: 6149 | 50 i apologize if i've offended you.
i compare them with what i have observed from your video and make my point.
and you compare them with other 4.5s or 5.0s and make your claim.
What is so different? Saying that they are mid 4.0 or 4.5 is no different
than saying a solid 4.5 or 5.0 will kick their ass, which i strongly
disagree
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: maybe, maybe not does it really matter? Why bring these kind stuff to a
: personal level? I only care about improving my tennis skills, whether
: someone who can kick my @$$ or if I can beat up the other guy, is not my
: concern. Play your game and let the results speak for itself.
: Maybe you play tennis for a different reason, that's fine to. You are
: entitle to whatever you choose.
:
: beating
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S**********Y
发帖数: 224 | 51 that is my dream "xiao qiu" |
o**w
发帖数: 337 | 52 白衣5.0，红衣6.0
【在 p*****u 的大作中提到】
: 目测都打不过芝加哥正副帮主。
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i*********r
发帖数: 5101 | 53 鼻涕你测过你的发球速度吗？多少麦？
u
【在 S**********Y 的大作中提到】
: that is my dream "xiao qiu"
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 54 I said the white shirt person is mid 4.0 because I only watched him for
couple points. I later mentioned that he played better and I'm ok to qualify
him as 4.5.
As I mentioned before, I judge them by the flow of his game and strokes, can
I compare that to the flow of 4.5s and 5.0s. The key comparisons are the
their flow and their strokes, 4.5, 5.0 is merely a marker on the measure
stick.
Therefore, I do not feel my comparison is same as yours. I feel at least I
have some substance in it, where yours is merely a class comparison.
.
【在 s***i 的大作中提到】
: i apologize if i've offended you.
: i compare them with what i have observed from your video and make my point.
: and you compare them with other 4.5s or 5.0s and make your claim.
: What is so different? Saying that they are mid 4.0 or 4.5 is no different
: than saying a solid 4.5 or 5.0 will kick their ass, which i strongly
: disagree
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s***i
发帖数: 6149 | 55 oh, now you sound like your judgement has more meat in it as if you had seen
a lot more 4.5 or 5.0 play than i do.Maybe i don't do as much analysis as
you do, but i've seen enough. That's more than enough for me
to make a objective call.Does it take a Brad Gilbert to tell Nadal or
Federer is playing light years better than you? sometimes i do feel that
some of the analysis on this board is stupid.
qualify
can
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: I said the white shirt person is mid 4.0 because I only watched him for
: couple points. I later mentioned that he played better and I'm ok to qualify
: him as 4.5.
: As I mentioned before, I judge them by the flow of his game and strokes, can
: I compare that to the flow of 4.5s and 5.0s. The key comparisons are the
: their flow and their strokes, 4.5, 5.0 is merely a marker on the measure
: stick.
: Therefore, I do not feel my comparison is same as yours. I feel at least I
: have some substance in it, where yours is merely a class comparison.
:
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o**w
发帖数: 337 | 56 我操，原来是法国的！
一般而言......
欧洲2.5 = USTA 3.0
欧洲3.0 = USTA 3.5
欧洲3.5 = USTA 4.0 mid
欧洲4.0 = USTA 4.0+ /4.5-
欧洲4.5 = USTA 4.5+ |
S**********Y
发帖数: 224 | 57 average 1st serve 90+
2nd serve 70+
【在 i*********r 的大作中提到】
: 鼻涕你测过你的发球速度吗？多少麦？
:
: u
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i*********r
发帖数: 5101 | 58 How about you top ones? I always thought your top ones should be around 110
【在 S**********Y 的大作中提到】
: average 1st serve 90+
: 2nd serve 70+
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S**********Y
发帖数: 224 | 59 运气好蒙到过一个117的
110
【在 i*********r 的大作中提到】
: How about you top ones? I always thought your top ones should be around 110
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o**w
发帖数: 337 | 60 这个法国3.5(15/5)很强啊！比USTA 4.0 mid 打得好。
另外，英国3.5(7.1 & 7.2)也较强，如果你USTA 4.0 mid、不是沙袋的话，十有八九会
输给英国7.1(3.5)。
【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: nnd法国老的rating也不靠谱吗，看看人家的这3.5
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHozC3JD1_o&hd=1
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 61 Forgot to mention in the earlier post, no need to apologize, I don't get
offended by these kind of post. I only hope that you can put some beneficial
substance when you try to prove a point.
I did not claim I have seen more 4.5 or 5.0 play than you do. Not sure what
I said make you feel that way. I feel your objective call of "I have little
chance vs any of those 2" does not benefit anyone, well, I guess it could
make you happy. So be it.
Actually I don't think Federer or Nadal are light years better than any of
us. If any of us can live for light years, then I'm pretty sure after couple
centuries, many of us can get to that level (assuming we continue the
training).
One person's trash is another person's treasure, you may feel some of the
analysis on this board is stupid, but it may not be for another. If you
think the analysis is incorrect, then it's better to point it out with
evidence and facts to support your claim, so everyone can learn from it.
Anyways, these kind debate/argument/diatribe is not beneficial to anyone.
This will be my last response to this thread.
seen
【在 s***i 的大作中提到】
: oh, now you sound like your judgement has more meat in it as if you had seen
: a lot more 4.5 or 5.0 play than i do.Maybe i don't do as much analysis as
: you do, but i've seen enough. That's more than enough for me
: to make a objective call.Does it take a Brad Gilbert to tell Nadal or
: Federer is playing light years better than you? sometimes i do feel that
: some of the analysis on this board is stupid.
:
: qualify
: can
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a**s
发帖数: 9606 | 62 欧洲3.5有4.0mid啊？那个3.5肯定是排名正在向上爬的，应该不能
代表平均水平
【在 o**w 的大作中提到】
: 我操，原来是法国的！
: 一般而言......
: 欧洲2.5 = USTA 3.0
: 欧洲3.0 = USTA 3.5
: 欧洲3.5 = USTA 4.0 mid
: 欧洲4.0 = USTA 4.0+ /4.5-
: 欧洲4.5 = USTA 4.5+
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a**s
发帖数: 9606 | 63 你牛叉
【在 S**********Y 的大作中提到】
: 运气好蒙到过一个117的
:
: 110
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c****3
发帖数: 189 | 64 秒杀版上一切发球高手, 包括高富帅, 小富帅.
many
【在 i**t 的大作中提到】
: white shirt uploaded a video of speed test his serve, over 110mph, how many
: 4.5 can do that?
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQY7_O0F6u4&feature=c4-overview-
:
: serve.
: watch
: to
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 65 答案：
红衣5.5 high, 白衣4.5 high. 法国只存在computer rating，而且是每场比赛更新
而不是一年更新一次。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKlnvxtLZvs
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a****n
发帖数: 4734 | 66 NIU!
【在 S**********Y 的大作中提到】
: 运气好蒙到过一个117的
:
: 110
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 67 欧洲的低等级比美国高很多，远不止0.5.
下面这场比赛是法国2.0 vs 2.5.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy4Gs7E4mbA
【在 o**w 的大作中提到】
: 我操，原来是法国的！
: 一般而言......
: 欧洲2.5 = USTA 3.0
: 欧洲3.0 = USTA 3.5
: 欧洲3.5 = USTA 4.0 mid
: 欧洲4.0 = USTA 4.0+ /4.5-
: 欧洲4.5 = USTA 4.5+
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s***i
发帖数: 6149 | 68 if this is 2.0 vs 2.5, then it is a completely different rating system.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 欧洲的低等级比美国高很多，远不止0.5.
: 下面这场比赛是法国2.0 vs 2.5.
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy4Gs7E4mbA
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a****n
发帖数: 4734 | 69 那个tw上很有名的法国7.0小伙相当于多少？
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 答案：
: 红衣5.5 high, 白衣4.5 high. 法国只存在computer rating，而且是每场比赛更新
: 而不是一年更新一次。
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 70 Link?
【在 a****n 的大作中提到】
: 那个tw上很有名的法国7.0小伙相当于多少？
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a****n
发帖数: 4734 | 71 Matt Truong
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIIgs4qQNvo
btw, this is my favorite tennis practice video.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Link?
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a*m
发帖数: 6253 | 72 我靠，室内大理石场地。。。
这个太奢华了。。。
而且我觉得人家是从0.0开始数的，这里都是3.0起跳，所以同一个等级人数众多。。。
其实我觉得应该把dynamic rating细化，比如分成10个等级，从0～10，
每俩个等级可以在同一个league里玩，这样的比赛就非常close了，锻炼效果要好的多
，每年两个league，每个league之后都review一次，这样升级快也容易，不用到了年底
就可以升级，比较可以保证每个league的质量。。。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 欧洲的低等级比美国高很多，远不止0.5.
: 下面这场比赛是法国2.0 vs 2.5.
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy4Gs7E4mbA
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o**w
发帖数: 337 | 73 再看几遍法国3.5(15/5)，感觉收音机也不一定能赢。 |
S**********Y
发帖数: 224 | 74 这也太打击人了， 看这录像我起码 NTRP 4.0.... 负的4.0
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 欧洲的低等级比美国高很多，远不止0.5.
: 下面这场比赛是法国2.0 vs 2.5.
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy4Gs7E4mbA
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o**w
发帖数: 337 | 75 一般欧洲国家在2.0级之前还有N个级别，比如英国2.0之前有17个级别。所以欧洲相应
的2.0, 2.5, 3.0, 3.5水平自然比USTA 高。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 欧洲的低等级比美国高很多，远不止0.5.
: 下面这场比赛是法国2.0 vs 2.5.
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy4Gs7E4mbA
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 76 He is not ATP ranked so definitely not a 7.0.
【在 a****n 的大作中提到】
: Matt Truong
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIIgs4qQNvo
: btw, this is my favorite tennis practice video.
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o**w
发帖数: 337 | 77 貌似欧洲级别之间的差距较小，比如4.5也很难送3.5两根油条。个人感觉，4.5或更高
的各个级别，欧洲与美国相差无几。 |
a****n
发帖数: 4734 | 78 this 7.0 is not that 7.0, different system.
I am wondering what USTA ranking of him....
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: He is not ATP ranked so definitely not a 7.0.
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 79 There is no 7.0 in French system.
【在 a****n 的大作中提到】
: this 7.0 is not that 7.0, different system.
: I am wondering what USTA ranking of him....
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a****n
发帖数: 4734 | 80 what do u think about his usta#?
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: There is no 7.0 in French system.
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n**u
发帖数: 768 | 81 He is good. But probably not a top Div 1 caliber player while he was in
college. Might have a sightly weaker coach/form than the French guy (just a
weak guess since they are our of my league). His stroke is very good for
him since he is a grown-up man. But it is not the right type amateurs should
replicate. I would not recommend use his (video) as your tennis practice
video.
【在 a****n 的大作中提到】
: Matt Truong
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIIgs4qQNvo
: btw, this is my favorite tennis practice video.
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o**w
发帖数: 337 | 82 人家自评7.0，犹如老三谐称与肯版比赛为巅峰战一样，玩笑而已。
【在 a****n 的大作中提到】
: what do u think about his usta#?
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i*********r
发帖数: 5101 | 83 不至于，鼻涕就不比他差。
【在 c****3 的大作中提到】
: 秒杀版上一切发球高手, 包括高富帅, 小富帅.
:
: many
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b**k
发帖数: 11850 | 84 红土3.5吗？我在德国的时候就没见过硬地场子。。
【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: 欧洲3.5有4.0mid啊？那个3.5肯定是排名正在向上爬的，应该不能
: 代表平均水平
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b**k
发帖数: 11850 | 85 大理石？开玩笑吧，摔个跤会骨折的！！
【在 a*m 的大作中提到】
: 我靠，室内大理石场地。。。
: 这个太奢华了。。。
: 而且我觉得人家是从0.0开始数的，这里都是3.0起跳，所以同一个等级人数众多。。。
: 其实我觉得应该把dynamic rating细化，比如分成10个等级，从0～10，
: 每俩个等级可以在同一个league里玩，这样的比赛就非常close了，锻炼效果要好的多
: ，每年两个league，每个league之后都review一次，这样升级快也容易，不用到了年底
: 就可以升级，比较可以保证每个league的质量。。。
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n**u
发帖数: 768 | 86 You are definitely closer to the red shirt than most of people here. I
understood your form and racket head speed are as good/fast as a Div 2/3
college player. You are a 4.5+ player with a very nice BH/FH. At this
level, the key is the ball placement / understanding of the game /selection
of the stroke. The red shirt's ball placement / understanding of the game /
selection of the stroke are superb.
Just an opinion/suggestion from my experience and observation. You guys are
out of my league. I have not played competitive tennis for a long time.
Even at my peak time, you should easily beat me 6:2/6:3.
beneficial
what
little
couple
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: Forgot to mention in the earlier post, no need to apologize, I don't get
: offended by these kind of post. I only hope that you can put some beneficial
: substance when you try to prove a point.
: I did not claim I have seen more 4.5 or 5.0 play than you do. Not sure what
: I said make you feel that way. I feel your objective call of "I have little
: chance vs any of those 2" does not benefit anyone, well, I guess it could
: make you happy. So be it.
: Actually I don't think Federer or Nadal are light years better than any of
: us. If any of us can live for light years, then I'm pretty sure after couple
: centuries, many of us can get to that level (assuming we continue the
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b**k
发帖数: 11850 | 87 嗯，看起来基本上跟EFSA vs. FDA差不多情况
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 欧洲的低等级比美国高很多，远不止0.5.
: 下面这场比赛是法国2.0 vs 2.5.
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy4Gs7E4mbA
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c****3
发帖数: 189 | 88 鼻涕自己说一发平均才90+, 人家个个都是105 以上, 平均该多少? 110+?
【在 i*********r 的大作中提到】
: 不至于，鼻涕就不比他差。
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 89 No time to dig but I vaguely remember he is like 6.0 or 6.5.
【在 a****n 的大作中提到】
: what do u think about his usta#?
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 90 这个3.5是前4.5, 多半是由于受伤或者其他原因才暂时跌到3.5的。
【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: nnd法国老的rating也不靠谱吗，看看人家的这3.5
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHozC3JD1_o&hd=1
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s***e
发帖数: 7166 | 91 您看错了吧，反光的是摄像机前面的玻璃……
【在 a*m 的大作中提到】
: 我靠，室内大理石场地。。。
: 这个太奢华了。。。
: 而且我觉得人家是从0.0开始数的，这里都是3.0起跳，所以同一个等级人数众多。。。
: 其实我觉得应该把dynamic rating细化，比如分成10个等级，从0～10，
: 每俩个等级可以在同一个league里玩，这样的比赛就非常close了，锻炼效果要好的多
: ，每年两个league，每个league之后都review一次，这样升级快也容易，不用到了年底
: 就可以升级，比较可以保证每个league的质量。。。
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s***e
发帖数: 7166 | 92 我也没见过……一片都没有。
【在 b**k 的大作中提到】
: 红土3.5吗？我在德国的时候就没见过硬地场子。。
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G********p
发帖数: 3504 | 93 2人不是一个水平的
白衣球都到不了后场，控球也不好，发球尚可，估计4.0
红衣比他强太多，估计不出来，看身体应该不是D1 |
d******x
发帖数: 11837 | 94 早就跟你说了3.5很厉害你非不听。。。
【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: nnd法国老的rating也不靠谱吗，看看人家的这3.5
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHozC3JD1_o&hd=1
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i**t
发帖数: 921 | 95 他的测速是球到网前的速度， ATP测的是球出球拍的速度。所以这里还要加个百分几。
这个球速已经和大多pro的速度没有区别， 就是成功率和比赛时落点变化的问题。
看过奔的没有机会能赢白裳。 离红衫就更遥不可及了。 能保一个发球局可称侥幸。
【在 c****3 的大作中提到】
: 秒杀版上一切发球高手, 包括高富帅, 小富帅.
:
: many
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F*****o
发帖数: 4012 | 96 3:20 的球小球，比俺跑得快多了。
红衣服的移动速度很快的。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKlnvxtLZvs
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i**t
发帖数: 921 | 97 同感， 没有废步
5：25从底线靠墙到网前接volley
15：00从底线正中到右发球线接volley
动如脱兔
【在 F*****o 的大作中提到】
: 3:20 的球小球，比俺跑得快多了。
: 红衣服的移动速度很快的。
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s***e
发帖数: 7166 | 98 对。其实一直到超一流高手（ATP），看水平六七成都要看步伐的速度和合理性，
很少有步伐更好但是输球的情况（不是没有，比如男子碰野炮女子碰小薇）。
【在 i**t 的大作中提到】
: 同感， 没有废步
: 5：25从底线靠墙到网前接volley
: 15：00从底线正中到右发球线接volley
: 动如脱兔
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i*********r
发帖数: 5101 | 99 比赛中也没各个吧。鼻涕如果练习时一般ytcw一米以上啊，我估计是110左右啊。最快
他还弄过117。
【在 c****3 的大作中提到】
: 鼻涕自己说一发平均才90+, 人家个个都是105 以上, 平均该多少? 110+?
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F*****o
发帖数: 4012 | 100 鼻涕90+ 靠谱。110 的速度，已经是 pro 的了，奔一个吧，让大家开开眼？
【在 i*********r 的大作中提到】
: 比赛中也没各个吧。鼻涕如果练习时一般ytcw一米以上啊，我估计是110左右啊。最快
: 他还弄过117。
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S**********Y
发帖数: 224 | 101 Judie练习轻松个个105mph以上， 而且是相当轻松得说，CC也是随便100多迈，都比我
快，况且形象还都高帅富 ^_^
【在 F*****o 的大作中提到】
: 鼻涕90+ 靠谱。110 的速度，已经是 pro 的了，奔一个吧，让大家开开眼？
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i*********r
发帖数: 5101 | 102 cc的是kick比较高，纯速度他不见得有你和judie的快。
【在 S**********Y 的大作中提到】
: Judie练习轻松个个105mph以上， 而且是相当轻松得说，CC也是随便100多迈，都比我
: 快，况且形象还都高帅富 ^_^
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F*****o
发帖数: 4012 | 103 要在比赛中保持一定的发球速度，才算有用。
Judie 好像一发进的不多（以前的录像），cc 的二发好像 top spin 很足的样子。
俺现在在室外的练习比赛和联赛中，YTCW 比去年多了很多，尽管是比较勉强的够着铁
丝网。
【在 S**********Y 的大作中提到】
: Judie练习轻松个个105mph以上， 而且是相当轻松得说，CC也是随便100多迈，都比我
: 快，况且形象还都高帅富 ^_^
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J****0
发帖数: 2400 | 104 这个对照表真心不靠谱，欧洲4.0给5.0吃bagel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XtqF6NmHpE
【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: 你牛叉
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c*********e
发帖数: 1389 | 105 白衣发球用的是大拍子，muscle出来的power，不太稀奇，很多老美4.5都可以。二发以
slice为主，也不是太主流，因此不是职业。 但是，正反手底线quality很高，脚程很
快，比赛的intensity特别的好。如果，不是对手太牛，每个球都让他打着别扭，他的
球会很有欣赏价值。4.5+5.0-
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKlnvxtLZvs
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