M*******n
发帖数: 508 | 1 老祖宗老早就总结过了.
如果你想赢比赛,苦练基本功当然需要,但是一块适合自己的拍子也同样重要.
说随便拿个Walmart的$20的拍子,只要技术好就无所谓,这样的说法纯粹就是无稽之谈.
不信给你个小孩拍你去打比赛试试. 不知道为什么一帮人整天不厌其烦地鼓吹.
$20的拍子对于完全新手可能合适,但是你打过两年后还用它,我就只能摇头了.不同技术
水平的选手,最"适合"的拍子不一样,所以要更新.
工欲善其事 必先利其器 |
a*i
发帖数: 1652 | 2 不能绝对，得看瓶颈在哪里。
职业选手的好拍对我们就是overkill。 |
c*****n
发帖数: 949 | 3 not only overkill, sometimes they just won't work well. |
Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 4 It's almost a sure thing that the bottleneck at our level is NOT the racket.
Spend the $200 on some private lessons will get you better ROI. This is a
fact. |
G******e
发帖数: 9567 | |
m*****r
发帖数: 3822 | 6 $20夸张了，5-60是足够了，再上去对初学没有什么意义。
【在 M*******n 的大作中提到】
: 老祖宗老早就总结过了.
: 如果你想赢比赛,苦练基本功当然需要,但是一块适合自己的拍子也同样重要.
: 说随便拿个Walmart的$20的拍子,只要技术好就无所谓,这样的说法纯粹就是无稽之谈.
: 不信给你个小孩拍你去打比赛试试. 不知道为什么一帮人整天不厌其烦地鼓吹.
: $20的拍子对于完全新手可能合适,但是你打过两年后还用它,我就只能摇头了.不同技术
: 水平的选手,最"适合"的拍子不一样,所以要更新.
: 工欲善其事 必先利其器
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c*****n
发帖数: 949 | 7 now I passed the 初学 phase, what is the next training step?
More lessons or practice? I don't feel the improvement while playing for fun
or games? But there are very few people actually want to feed the ball for
you to practice. |
s*********4
发帖数: 3362 | 8 如果你想好好打球,就别买walmart的拍子.还是要买performance 的.
我的第一把拍子,LM ridical mp 75,用了两年了.感觉很好.
价格合适,拍子口碑也好.推荐所有人用.
其实我现在都觉得,自己的水平还没到用好LM ridical mp得层次.
两个月前买了prestige mp, used 70.觉得对水平提高有所帮助.
我是不会花快200块钱买拍子的.
至于其它的,鞋我都是买clearence,30-40. 我半年穿坏一双网球鞋,贵的实在消费不起.
没有专门的网球服.
觉得拍子还是很重要的.确实是工欲善其事 必先利其器 |
h****z
发帖数: 2009 | 9 How about change your MGPM to some 39$ walmart racquet (better than those $
20 ones)? haha
racket.
【在 Y**s 的大作中提到】
: It's almost a sure thing that the bottleneck at our level is NOT the racket.
: Spend the $200 on some private lessons will get you better ROI. This is a
: fact.
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Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 10 Well, there are lower limits for sure - but yes, if I change my MGPM to a $
60 pair of players racket that are roughly in the same category as mine.
The games I won I still would have won, and the games I lost I still would
have lost. :)
I got my MGPM because:
1) It's got a nice paint job and approved by Marat Safin
2) It felt good in my hand and while hitting
3) It was cheap
4) My old PSC6.1 that I had for almost 10yrs is getting severely beat up
I did not get it because it added 2mph to
【在 h****z 的大作中提到】
: How about change your MGPM to some 39$ walmart racquet (better than those $
: 20 ones)? haha
:
: racket.
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s*********4
发帖数: 3362 | 11
fun
for
上课永远都是最好的选择.有老师指导你,要提高快很多.
当然是小班一对一的.大班,我不觉得会有用.
多练习,永远都是提高最快的方法.
我来美国打球两年,我是觉得,我自身的能力已经让我的水平到顶了.
还有参加USTA应该是不错的选择.
我觉得不一定是老师,高手对你的提点,帮助也很大.
而且还可以和队友多多练习..
【在 c*****n 的大作中提到】
: now I passed the 初学 phase, what is the next training step?
: More lessons or practice? I don't feel the improvement while playing for fun
: or games? But there are very few people actually want to feed the ball for
: you to practice.
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h****z
发帖数: 2009 | 12 So it's still same category player's racquet :)
I believe anyone played for a while and tested different racquets would
agree racquets w/different strings do feel different. A 5.5 player can bagel
us with fry pans, but they can't beat other 5.5 players with fry pans.
【在 Y**s 的大作中提到】
: Well, there are lower limits for sure - but yes, if I change my MGPM to a $
: 60 pair of players racket that are roughly in the same category as mine.
: The games I won I still would have won, and the games I lost I still would
: have lost. :)
: I got my MGPM because:
: 1) It's got a nice paint job and approved by Marat Safin
: 2) It felt good in my hand and while hitting
: 3) It was cheap
: 4) My old PSC6.1 that I had for almost 10yrs is getting severely beat up
: I did not get it because it added 2mph to
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m*****r
发帖数: 3822 | 13 where did you get it?
btw: you sent me double baozi...
【在 Y**s 的大作中提到】
: Well, there are lower limits for sure - but yes, if I change my MGPM to a $
: 60 pair of players racket that are roughly in the same category as mine.
: The games I won I still would have won, and the games I lost I still would
: have lost. :)
: I got my MGPM because:
: 1) It's got a nice paint job and approved by Marat Safin
: 2) It felt good in my hand and while hitting
: 3) It was cheap
: 4) My old PSC6.1 that I had for almost 10yrs is getting severely beat up
: I did not get it because it added 2mph to
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Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 14 Oh yea, DEFINITELY feels different. One racket is stiffer, one racket is
softer...etc. but that difference may be even more significant with
different string setups. My advice is, before deciding to buy a new racket
- change the string set up and see if it gets what you want. Most of the
times that'll get you what you want.
This is often time the issue with demoing racket - when you do buy your own
and use your own string setup - suddenly you feel the racket doesn't play
like when you first
【在 h****z 的大作中提到】
: So it's still same category player's racquet :)
: I believe anyone played for a while and tested different racquets would
: agree racquets w/different strings do feel different. A 5.5 player can bagel
: us with fry pans, but they can't beat other 5.5 players with fry pans.
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m*****r
发帖数: 3822 | 15
racket
own
agree your last point..
【在 Y**s 的大作中提到】
: Oh yea, DEFINITELY feels different. One racket is stiffer, one racket is
: softer...etc. but that difference may be even more significant with
: different string setups. My advice is, before deciding to buy a new racket
: - change the string set up and see if it gets what you want. Most of the
: times that'll get you what you want.
: This is often time the issue with demoing racket - when you do buy your own
: and use your own string setup - suddenly you feel the racket doesn't play
: like when you first
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Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 16 I bought them off TT, got a matching pair for $170 or something(it's been a
while, forgot), used by but in almost-new condition...
damn, i forgot whether i sent you baozi or not. lol well i'm all out of
baozi now. Blew my money so fast...
【在 m*****r 的大作中提到】
: where did you get it?
: btw: you sent me double baozi...
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m*****r
发帖数: 3822 | 17 lol like lottery winner, bankrupt so soon...
a
【在 Y**s 的大作中提到】
: I bought them off TT, got a matching pair for $170 or something(it's been a
: while, forgot), used by but in almost-new condition...
: damn, i forgot whether i sent you baozi or not. lol well i'm all out of
: baozi now. Blew my money so fast...
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M*******n
发帖数: 508 | 18 So you did spend your $170 on racket instead of a private lesson, or 8 $20
Walmart cheap racket!
【在 Y**s 的大作中提到】
: Well, there are lower limits for sure - but yes, if I change my MGPM to a $
: 60 pair of players racket that are roughly in the same category as mine.
: The games I won I still would have won, and the games I lost I still would
: have lost. :)
: I got my MGPM because:
: 1) It's got a nice paint job and approved by Marat Safin
: 2) It felt good in my hand and while hitting
: 3) It was cheap
: 4) My old PSC6.1 that I had for almost 10yrs is getting severely beat up
: I did not get it because it added 2mph to
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c*****n
发帖数: 949 | 19 what is TT? tennis warehouse?
BTW, I am using prestige mid and really like it comparing to my old-school
wilson Hammer 2.7si. |
K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 20 For people who claim $20 Walmart racket would work as well,
I hope that is based on experience not some 拍脑袋 theory, hehe.
I have used two versions of $18.99 Walmart Wilson Impact - arguably
the best selling Walmart racket ever, LOL - from 2002 to 2006.
I played more often in 2006 and attended a 8-session group lesson,
the first 4 or 5 lessons using this racket. The result: I made
virtually zero progress. This racket, 10.9 oz head heavy, is
not something I could handle and I failed to learn topsp
【在 Y**s 的大作中提到】
: It's almost a sure thing that the bottleneck at our level is NOT the racket.
: Spend the $200 on some private lessons will get you better ROI. This is a
: fact.
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R****n
发帖数: 708 | |
Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 22 yes i did, because i'm vain and i like how my racket looks, for instance it
looks great with red strings. lol
NOT because getting the mgpm improved my game. I could have just spent $60
on something similar and my tennis would be the same.
Can I feel the difference between my MGPM, my PSC6.1, a K90, or a Babolat?
Yes. Is it material to my game? no.
Make no mistake about it - there's a big difference between an ultra-
beginner 10-pt head heavy racket vs. a "players" frame that's more or less
【在 M*******n 的大作中提到】
: So you did spend your $170 on racket instead of a private lesson, or 8 $20
: Walmart cheap racket!
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R****n
发帖数: 708 | 23 Yoss,
I'd like to learn your writing skills. Please give me some advice, thanks
it
60
play
【在 Y**s 的大作中提到】
: yes i did, because i'm vain and i like how my racket looks, for instance it
: looks great with red strings. lol
: NOT because getting the mgpm improved my game. I could have just spent $60
: on something similar and my tennis would be the same.
: Can I feel the difference between my MGPM, my PSC6.1, a K90, or a Babolat?
: Yes. Is it material to my game? no.
: Make no mistake about it - there's a big difference between an ultra-
: beginner 10-pt head heavy racket vs. a "players" frame that's more or less
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 24 It could probably be achieved by going through several years of
high school English classes, lol.
【在 R****n 的大作中提到】
: Yoss,
: I'd like to learn your writing skills. Please give me some advice, thanks
:
: it
: 60
:
: play
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m*****r
发帖数: 3822 | 25 is "Yoss" from Japanese？
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: It could probably be achieved by going through several years of
: high school English classes, lol.
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Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 26 no it's a character in Catch-22 :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch-22
【在 m*****r 的大作中提到】
: is "Yoss" from Japanese？
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M*******n
发帖数: 508 | 27 The matter of fact is that you spent your money on racket instead of lessons, although you claim lessons have better return on investment. Your statement of using a $60 racket won't hurt your game is just a ungrounded HYPOTHESIS. I don't understand the logic of making argument without concrete backup, instead just saying " I COULD have just spent $60.... and my game WOULD be the same". On the other hand, even just in this thread, two players have ACTUALLY tried different rackets and said there
【在 Y**s 的大作中提到】
: yes i did, because i'm vain and i like how my racket looks, for instance it
: looks great with red strings. lol
: NOT because getting the mgpm improved my game. I could have just spent $60
: on something similar and my tennis would be the same.
: Can I feel the difference between my MGPM, my PSC6.1, a K90, or a Babolat?
: Yes. Is it material to my game? no.
: Make no mistake about it - there's a big difference between an ultra-
: beginner 10-pt head heavy racket vs. a "players" frame that's more or less
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g********u
发帖数: 205 | 28 别抬杠了，回答我的问题吧 :D
bbs上抬杠永远没结果的
lessons
hypothesis
backup
be
【在 M*******n 的大作中提到】
: The matter of fact is that you spent your money on racket instead of lessons, although you claim lessons have better return on investment. Your statement of using a $60 racket won't hurt your game is just a ungrounded HYPOTHESIS. I don't understand the logic of making argument without concrete backup, instead just saying " I COULD have just spent $60.... and my game WOULD be the same". On the other hand, even just in this thread, two players have ACTUALLY tried different rackets and said there
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Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 29 Lol it's not like I haven't played with $60 rackets before... :)
That's fine - some guys are more sensitive to it, I'm not. But lets not
exaggerate the importance of it.
The fact of the matter is, I spent my money on racket BY CHOICE, because I
like how it looks. And yes, I have played *MANY* rackets. The majority of
which are cheap no-name ones from Prince, Wilson, Head, whatever, and it is
my *experience* that they did not substantially increase or decrease my
level of game play - if the s
【在 M*******n 的大作中提到】
: The matter of fact is that you spent your money on racket instead of lessons, although you claim lessons have better return on investment. Your statement of using a $60 racket won't hurt your game is just a ungrounded HYPOTHESIS. I don't understand the logic of making argument without concrete backup, instead just saying " I COULD have just spent $60.... and my game WOULD be the same". On the other hand, even just in this thread, two players have ACTUALLY tried different rackets and said there
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M*******n
发帖数: 508 | 30 With all your experience of different rackets, you have no plan to go back
to $60 ones from these expensive $200+ ones to save your money for tennis
lessons, right?
of
is
【在 Y**s 的大作中提到】
: Lol it's not like I haven't played with $60 rackets before... :)
: That's fine - some guys are more sensitive to it, I'm not. But lets not
: exaggerate the importance of it.
: The fact of the matter is, I spent my money on racket BY CHOICE, because I
: like how it looks. And yes, I have played *MANY* rackets. The majority of
: which are cheap no-name ones from Prince, Wilson, Head, whatever, and it is
: my *experience* that they did not substantially increase or decrease my
: level of game play - if the s
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Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 31 Which part of:
"I like how my racket looks - this is the reason why I bought it" do you
not understand?
And no - since I already have a good racket that I enjoy using (and looking
at), why would I go 'back' to another racket - regardless of how expensive
or cheap?
But yes, I *could* have saved me $180 and spent it on some lessons - that
would be the BETTER investment. The fact that I didn't do it simply showed
that I'm vain and stupid.
I'm sorry but I think you are confusing the issues here..
【在 M*******n 的大作中提到】
: With all your experience of different rackets, you have no plan to go back
: to $60 ones from these expensive $200+ ones to save your money for tennis
: lessons, right?
:
: of
: is
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M*******n
发帖数: 508 | 32 That's alright. I think we have got things straighten out.
looking
showed
【在 Y**s 的大作中提到】
: Which part of:
: "I like how my racket looks - this is the reason why I bought it" do you
: not understand?
: And no - since I already have a good racket that I enjoy using (and looking
: at), why would I go 'back' to another racket - regardless of how expensive
: or cheap?
: But yes, I *could* have saved me $180 and spent it on some lessons - that
: would be the BETTER investment. The fact that I didn't do it simply showed
: that I'm vain and stupid.
: I'm sorry but I think you are confusing the issues here..
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