R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 1 感觉骑车的人的腿部肌肉都非常强大， 而且非常lean, 在考虑
弄台Exercise bike晚上没事可以骑骑， 实在是不想跑double..
有没有啥型号可以推荐么？ |
S*********g
发帖数: 7653 | 2 为啥不跑double？
骑车的人小腿都好细啊～～～ |
R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 3 太boring了， 一天到晚跑会疯掉的。。。。而且跑太多身体受不了。。
【在 S*********g 的大作中提到】
: 为啥不跑double？
: 骑车的人小腿都好细啊～～～
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w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 4 I feel that cycling can be used to improve your VO2max (if you really push
it on the bike), but not so much in
terms of the muscle strength/endurance needed for running.
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 感觉骑车的人的腿部肌肉都非常强大， 而且非常lean, 在考虑
: 弄台Exercise bike晚上没事可以骑骑， 实在是不想跑double..
: 有没有啥型号可以推荐么？
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b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 5 different sports have different vo2max, cycling vo2max can't be translated
into running vo2max directly (e.g. Lance).
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: I feel that cycling can be used to improve your VO2max (if you really push
: it on the bike), but not so much in
: terms of the muscle strength/endurance needed for running.
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 6 VO2max is a biological indicator and it's universal, it's VDOT that takes
into consideration of the ability to utilize VO2max. Lance's marathon
performance was actually pretty good after some proper training.
Cycling and running are somewhat similar in terms of general fitness. But
they could be very different in terms of muscle usage. Cycling uses more
inner quads and running uses more outer quads. But I think the more
important difference is that cycling has much lower impact. You also work in
a slightly lower HR zone.
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】
: different sports have different vo2max, cycling vo2max can't be translated
: into running vo2max directly (e.g. Lance).
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b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 7 继续学术讨论
Jack Daniels said vo2max is not universal, it's not just how much oxygen you
can breathe in your lungs. Vo2max is about how much oxygen you can consume
with your cardiovascular system and the peripheral components related to the
activities.
For example, there will be a vo2max of doing situps, and a vo2max of
squeezing a rubber ball with your right hand, which can't be high as only a
small group of muscles are being used.
VDOT is just a pseudo-vo2max calculated based on race performance, not the
actual rate of oxygen consumption.
in
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: VO2max is a biological indicator and it's universal, it's VDOT that takes
: into consideration of the ability to utilize VO2max. Lance's marathon
: performance was actually pretty good after some proper training.
: Cycling and running are somewhat similar in terms of general fitness. But
: they could be very different in terms of muscle usage. Cycling uses more
: inner quads and running uses more outer quads. But I think the more
: important difference is that cycling has much lower impact. You also work in
: a slightly lower HR zone.
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w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 8 Interesting.
Speaking of the effect of cross training on VO2max, I had a little chat with
a high school cross country coach
last week and he told me that once Joan Samuelson visited their school and
told them the story of her training
when her legs were put in a cast for weeks. She did her workouts on the
stationary bike (presumably quite
intensely). When she got back on the road and did a 10-mile run, she was
surprised to find out that she was
stronger than before the injury.
you
consume
the
a
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】
: 继续学术讨论
: Jack Daniels said vo2max is not universal, it's not just how much oxygen you
: can breathe in your lungs. Vo2max is about how much oxygen you can consume
: with your cardiovascular system and the peripheral components related to the
: activities.
: For example, there will be a vo2max of doing situps, and a vo2max of
: squeezing a rubber ball with your right hand, which can't be high as only a
: small group of muscles are being used.
: VDOT is just a pseudo-vo2max calculated based on race performance, not the
: actual rate of oxygen consumption.
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R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 9 应该没那么夸张， 毕竟都是要把氧气送到腿部， 而且有蹬腿动作，
能有50%的效果，俺就很高兴了， 就当LHR training/recovery好了。。
you
consume
the
a
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】
: 继续学术讨论
: Jack Daniels said vo2max is not universal, it's not just how much oxygen you
: can breathe in your lungs. Vo2max is about how much oxygen you can consume
: with your cardiovascular system and the peripheral components related to the
: activities.
: For example, there will be a vo2max of doing situps, and a vo2max of
: squeezing a rubber ball with your right hand, which can't be high as only a
: small group of muscles are being used.
: VDOT is just a pseudo-vo2max calculated based on race performance, not the
: actual rate of oxygen consumption.
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b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 10 or maybe it's because she recovered from overtrain?:)
with
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: Interesting.
: Speaking of the effect of cross training on VO2max, I had a little chat with
: a high school cross country coach
: last week and he told me that once Joan Samuelson visited their school and
: told them the story of her training
: when her legs were put in a cast for weeks. She did her workouts on the
: stationary bike (presumably quite
: intensely). When she got back on the road and did a 10-mile run, she was
: surprised to find out that she was
: stronger than before the injury.
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b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 11 嗯，对我们这些普通人肯定有用。
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 应该没那么夸张， 毕竟都是要把氧气送到腿部， 而且有蹬腿动作，
: 能有50%的效果，俺就很高兴了， 就当LHR training/recovery好了。。
:
: you
: consume
: the
: a
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i*********5
发帖数: 19210 | 12 骑车的人插一句，我觉得我的cardio和endurance都是骑车练出来的。虽然没跑过全马
，更没跑过LT100，但是从我的10K和半马的经验来看，至少有一半以上的cardio和
endurance是tranferable的。
去年在十几年来没有任何跑步训练的情况下，跑了个45分钟的10K，在加拿大的一华人
论坛体育版被人认定是吹牛。hehe... |
c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 13 I did my first double century ride in 12.5 hours without much training (only
a few centuries), I think all that endurance came from swimming and running
I did. So I would say, at our level, we can transfer a lot of the effort.
On the elite level where they are already very fit, it's much less effective.
【在 i*********5 的大作中提到】
: 骑车的人插一句，我觉得我的cardio和endurance都是骑车练出来的。虽然没跑过全马
: ，更没跑过LT100，但是从我的10K和半马的经验来看，至少有一半以上的cardio和
: endurance是tranferable的。
: 去年在十几年来没有任何跑步训练的情况下，跑了个45分钟的10K，在加拿大的一华人
: 论坛体育版被人认定是吹牛。hehe...
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R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 14 仔细想了想， 还是直接上跑步机好了， 不浪费精力。。。
only
running
effective.
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: I did my first double century ride in 12.5 hours without much training (only
: a few centuries), I think all that endurance came from swimming and running
: I did. So I would say, at our level, we can transfer a lot of the effort.
: On the elite level where they are already very fit, it's much less effective.
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