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Investment版 - 怎样卖更好的价钱?
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K****D
发帖数: 30533
1
偶的ACH, 整整hold了10个月,最后$14.5卖了, yield 0.0%.
结果两个多月后涨到$28,现在还有$22.86.
由于偶的纪律是从不以更高的价格买回,所以偶短期甚至长期之内就能干
等。
有没有什么策略可以稍微提高一点盈利率?可以适当提高一点风险系数。
n******n
发帖数: 12088
2
没亏就不错了。
我100股23.58的捂了一年呢,呵呵。当然我卖过covered call,收回了一部分成本。

【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 偶的ACH, 整整hold了10个月,最后$14.5卖了, yield 0.0%.
: 结果两个多月后涨到$28,现在还有$22.86.
: 由于偶的纪律是从不以更高的价格买回,所以偶短期甚至长期之内就能干
: 等。
: 有没有什么策略可以稍微提高一点盈利率?可以适当提高一点风险系数。

a******g
发帖数: 1538
3
不知道
你说的情况我太熟悉了,都习惯了

【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 偶的ACH, 整整hold了10个月,最后$14.5卖了, yield 0.0%.
: 结果两个多月后涨到$28,现在还有$22.86.
: 由于偶的纪律是从不以更高的价格买回,所以偶短期甚至长期之内就能干
: 等。
: 有没有什么策略可以稍微提高一点盈利率?可以适当提高一点风险系数。

n******n
发帖数: 12088
4
其实还是资金管理问题。8块、10块都可以加仓的。

【在 a******g 的大作中提到】
: 不知道
: 你说的情况我太熟悉了,都习惯了

K****D
发帖数: 30533
5
偶是加了仓的,当初的买价是$35. 资金管理不是偶最大的问题。
偶问的是怎么卖才能多赚点。

【在 n******n 的大作中提到】
: 其实还是资金管理问题。8块、10块都可以加仓的。
n******n
发帖数: 12088
6
那你14的时候可以出一半啊。
你想,卖到顶部的可能性很小,不如分批卖,平滑收益曲线。
所以IB还是有好处的。

【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 偶是加了仓的,当初的买价是$35. 资金管理不是偶最大的问题。
: 偶问的是怎么卖才能多赚点。

K****D
发帖数: 30533
7
Ok, 如果卖掉一半后跌了,要不要补仓(如果那样的话可能又要另一个10个月
才能出水)?还是就熬着?

【在 n******n 的大作中提到】
: 那你14的时候可以出一半啊。
: 你想,卖到顶部的可能性很小,不如分批卖,平滑收益曲线。
: 所以IB还是有好处的。

n******n
发帖数: 12088
8
另外你怎么35 avd到14的?口袋很深么。

【在 n******n 的大作中提到】
: 那你14的时候可以出一半啊。
: 你想,卖到顶部的可能性很小,不如分批卖,平滑收益曲线。
: 所以IB还是有好处的。

n******n
发帖数: 12088
9
有钱,有信心就补啊。这样跌了你该高兴,相当于你前面的差价是白赚的。

【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Ok, 如果卖掉一半后跌了,要不要补仓(如果那样的话可能又要另一个10个月
: 才能出水)?还是就熬着?

K****D
发帖数: 30533
10
Original 100% money at $35.
Doubled up shares at 50% price.
Added 150% more shares at 25% price.

【在 n******n 的大作中提到】
: 另外你怎么35 avd到14的?口袋很深么。
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K****D
发帖数: 30533
11
I can't put or short. My account is cash account.

【在 n******n 的大作中提到】
: 有钱,有信心就补啊。这样跌了你该高兴,相当于你前面的差价是白赚的。
n******n
发帖数: 12088
12
?我说你有钱就可以补仓。没让你扑。
另外你那个规矩有问题。经历过熊市的便宜价格,你到牛市还能买股票吗?哈哈。

【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: I can't put or short. My account is cash account.
K****D
发帖数: 30533
13
That's my problem. I tend to underperform in bull market.
I can only buy something similar (but cheaper) according to
my rule.

【在 n******n 的大作中提到】
: ?我说你有钱就可以补仓。没让你扑。
: 另外你那个规矩有问题。经历过熊市的便宜价格,你到牛市还能买股票吗?哈哈。

n******n
发帖数: 12088
14
你可以买同板块其他股票,这样心理好过些。

【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: That's my problem. I tend to underperform in bull market.
: I can only buy something similar (but cheaper) according to
: my rule.

g*****g
发帖数: 34805
15
If you average on the way up, not on the way down, you'd rarely have
this problem.

【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: That's my problem. I tend to underperform in bull market.
: I can only buy something similar (but cheaper) according to
: my rule.

K****D
发帖数: 30533
16
That's what I meant. But still, since I wait too much in bull
market, I am likely to underperform.

【在 n******n 的大作中提到】
: 你可以买同板块其他股票,这样心理好过些。
K****D
发帖数: 30533
17
How to sell in that strategy? (esp. when the price drops after
buying)

【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: If you average on the way up, not on the way down, you'd rarely have
: this problem.

n******n
发帖数: 12088
18
I don't think avu is better than avd.
Buying on left or right totally depends on personal preference.

【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: How to sell in that strategy? (esp. when the price drops after
: buying)

g*****g
发帖数: 34805
19
Let's say you buy at 100, average up at 110, it goes to 120 then
go all the way back. You probably want to set stop half at 110,
half at 100. You are relax in this process coz you never lose money.
Now if it dives to 90 when you buy at 100, at least you only commit
half, and you can set your cut loss at 80 or something like that.
Average down can be suicidal in bear market. You don't know where's
the bottom. When you buy on the way up, at least you have a good stop
to cut loss.

【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: How to sell in that strategy? (esp. when the price drops after
: buying)

K****D
发帖数: 30533
20

The question for me is when to buy again? This is the hardest part
for me.
Also I "never lose money" only if the stock rises after I buy it.
Again, my question is when to buy again after 80. This decides
how frequent I will see an accumulative small loss.

【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: Let's say you buy at 100, average up at 110, it goes to 120 then
: go all the way back. You probably want to set stop half at 110,
: half at 100. You are relax in this process coz you never lose money.
: Now if it dives to 90 when you buy at 100, at least you only commit
: half, and you can set your cut loss at 80 or something like that.
: Average down can be suicidal in bear market. You don't know where's
: the bottom. When you buy on the way up, at least you have a good stop
: to cut loss.

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g*****g
发帖数: 34805
21
There are certain points called pivot points, like new high,
but not for non-TAer.
Peronsally I would cut if it goes below either the price stop
and extends beyond the time stop. And I wouldn't add more until
I make money, i.e. >100.
No method works 100% of the time, but it feels better if you lose,
you lose small and not all in. The avg down certainly can lead that.

【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
:
: The question for me is when to buy again? This is the hardest part
: for me.
: Also I "never lose money" only if the stock rises after I buy it.
: Again, my question is when to buy again after 80. This decides
: how frequent I will see an accumulative small loss.

n******n
发帖数: 12088
22
It's a Nobel Prize problem to know if the stock is in uptrend or not.

【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: Let's say you buy at 100, average up at 110, it goes to 120 then
: go all the way back. You probably want to set stop half at 110,
: half at 100. You are relax in this process coz you never lose money.
: Now if it dives to 90 when you buy at 100, at least you only commit
: half, and you can set your cut loss at 80 or something like that.
: Average down can be suicidal in bear market. You don't know where's
: the bottom. When you buy on the way up, at least you have a good stop
: to cut loss.

g*****g
发帖数: 34805
23
Certain money management rules aren't rocket science, and it works
in any back-test.
Average down is certainly a bad one that leads to wipe-out in bear
market.

【在 n******n 的大作中提到】
: It's a Nobel Prize problem to know if the stock is in uptrend or not.
n******n
发帖数: 12088
24
Cutting loss is not necessary a good one too. I really believe either works
in certain context.

【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: Certain money management rules aren't rocket science, and it works
: in any back-test.
: Average down is certainly a bad one that leads to wipe-out in bear
: market.

u**o
发帖数: 4652
25
hold longer then
a******g
发帖数: 1538
26
这个资金管理和止损是不是相反的?

【在 n******n 的大作中提到】
: 其实还是资金管理问题。8块、10块都可以加仓的。
K****D
发帖数: 30533
27
//nod.
资金管理 == average in, 止损 == stop loss and never average in.

【在 a******g 的大作中提到】
: 这个资金管理和止损是不是相反的?
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