D*********t 发帖数: 370 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 Biology 讨论区 】
发信人: DrBiologist (Publish or perish), 信区: Biology
标 题: How to become a professor (I)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed May 27 17:23:09 2009)
How to become a professor (I)–Do you have the passion?
By D*********[email protected]
What is the most important attribute of a graduate student that foretells
his or her success in landing a faculty job in the future? After some
pondering, I chose interest. I know someone may argue that intellect,
publications, connections, language skills, luck, e |
j**l 发帖数: 337 | 2 sofa first, read second. |
p*l 发帖数: 1359 | 3 我就属于表面看起来突然wake up的,不过也没什么后悔,现在我事业上也不比
同学晚。同学中,原来天天自习的尖子,现在在wall street,我这个从来不自
习的,居然道貌岸然地去做faculty,真是造化弄人。
兴趣确实很重要,我觉得自己并没有有意识的wake up,本科的时候兴趣在玩上,
研究生的时候发现自己的研究也有点意思。但是我觉得后天的 intelligence,也
就是做研究的思维能力,解决问题的能力非常重要,如果在PhD training中没有
得到这方面的提高,再往下很难。本科放羊不是特别要紧,如果PhD也整个放羊
了,就基本没翻身的机会了。 |
d***a 发帖数: 13752 | |
l*****o 发帖数: 140 | 5 thanks for sharing.
student
【在 D*********t 的大作中提到】 : 【 以下文字转载自 Biology 讨论区 】 : 发信人: DrBiologist (Publish or perish), 信区: Biology : 标 题: How to become a professor (I) : 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed May 27 17:23:09 2009) : How to become a professor (I)–Do you have the passion? : By D*********[email protected] : What is the most important attribute of a graduate student that foretells : his or her success in landing a faculty job in the future? After some : pondering, I chose interest. I know someone may argue that intellect, : publications, connections, language skills, luck, e
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b*******1 发帖数: 127 | 7 多谢分享。When I was in the graduate school, I had great passion on research
, and published quite a lot of highly-cited papers. After graduation, I
worked in the industry for 3 years, and was laid off several times. Then, I
went back to a top 3 university, working as a scientist under a brilliant
young professor. The field is quite new and exciting. I expanded my
expertise quite a lot, and published some quality papers. However, I started
losing interest very quickly, and felt extremely depressed. P |
D*********t 发帖数: 370 | 8 Is the picture your kid? He looks cute! (He looks like my kid...)
【在 p*l 的大作中提到】 : 我就属于表面看起来突然wake up的,不过也没什么后悔,现在我事业上也不比 : 同学晚。同学中,原来天天自习的尖子,现在在wall street,我这个从来不自 : 习的,居然道貌岸然地去做faculty,真是造化弄人。 : 兴趣确实很重要,我觉得自己并没有有意识的wake up,本科的时候兴趣在玩上, : 研究生的时候发现自己的研究也有点意思。但是我觉得后天的 intelligence,也 : 就是做研究的思维能力,解决问题的能力非常重要,如果在PhD training中没有 : 得到这方面的提高,再往下很难。本科放羊不是特别要紧,如果PhD也整个放羊 : 了,就基本没翻身的机会了。
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D*********t 发帖数: 370 | 9 Yes. It took me some time to write, amid grant writing. I know it is a
little too long...
【在 d***a 的大作中提到】 : 沙发...是原创?
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p*l 发帖数: 1359 | 10 是我儿子,谢谢夸奖!
【在 D*********t 的大作中提到】 : Is the picture your kid? He looks cute! (He looks like my kid...)
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d***a 发帖数: 13752 | 11 写得很好...
【在 D*********t 的大作中提到】 : Yes. It took me some time to write, amid grant writing. I know it is a : little too long...
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h*****n 发帖数: 924 | 12 i agree that the phd stage is very critical.
btw, those wall street people have been well punished during the crisis. the
ir life will not be much better even in the future.
【在 p*l 的大作中提到】 : 我就属于表面看起来突然wake up的,不过也没什么后悔,现在我事业上也不比 : 同学晚。同学中,原来天天自习的尖子,现在在wall street,我这个从来不自 : 习的,居然道貌岸然地去做faculty,真是造化弄人。 : 兴趣确实很重要,我觉得自己并没有有意识的wake up,本科的时候兴趣在玩上, : 研究生的时候发现自己的研究也有点意思。但是我觉得后天的 intelligence,也 : 就是做研究的思维能力,解决问题的能力非常重要,如果在PhD training中没有 : 得到这方面的提高,再往下很难。本科放羊不是特别要紧,如果PhD也整个放羊 : 了,就基本没翻身的机会了。
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h*****n 发帖数: 924 | 13 this is the best post i have ever seen at mitbbs.
【在 D*********t 的大作中提到】 : 【 以下文字转载自 Biology 讨论区 】 : 发信人: DrBiologist (Publish or perish), 信区: Biology : 标 题: How to become a professor (I) : 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed May 27 17:23:09 2009) : How to become a professor (I)–Do you have the passion? : By D*********[email protected] : What is the most important attribute of a graduate student that foretells : his or her success in landing a faculty job in the future? After some : pondering, I chose interest. I know someone may argue that intellect, : publications, connections, language skills, luck, e
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l*********i 发帖数: 332 | 14 不好意思在生物板说,我觉得怎样做教授是个伪命题,怎样做science才是真命题。
怎样做研究生啊,怎样做教授啊,都是在怎样做science过程中的问题。
做教授难道真是所谓人生目标?太搞笑了吧。是为了做science而做教授,不是为了做
教授而做教授。
本文题目,怎样做一个教授,其实跟怎样做一个大厨一样,做什么工作不得要点兴趣?
不得要点passion?
student
【在 D*********t 的大作中提到】 : Yes. It took me some time to write, amid grant writing. I know it is a : little too long...
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w*********t 发帖数: 928 | 15 说得对呀。
不过也有很多人是为了教授而教授的。
就是喜欢教授那种作息方式吧。
【在 l*********i 的大作中提到】 : 不好意思在生物板说,我觉得怎样做教授是个伪命题,怎样做science才是真命题。 : 怎样做研究生啊,怎样做教授啊,都是在怎样做science过程中的问题。 : 做教授难道真是所谓人生目标?太搞笑了吧。是为了做science而做教授,不是为了做 : 教授而做教授。 : 本文题目,怎样做一个教授,其实跟怎样做一个大厨一样,做什么工作不得要点兴趣? : 不得要点passion? : : student
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l*********i 发帖数: 332 | 16 http://www.mitbbs.com/bbsann2/scitech.faq/Biology/puri/M.1168020068.p0/%D0%C2%C4%EA%D3%D0%BD%
B1%D5%F7%CE%C4%B2%CE%C8%FC%D7%F7%C6%B7%A3%AD6+++++++++++++++
兴趣重要,passion重要谁都知道,我现在不随便鼓励谁,生物这玩意,一将功成万骨
枯。你感上好时候,随便有点兴趣都
能发达,赶上不好的时候,付出10倍的精力兴趣也不见得做点自己满意的东西。那些在
牛人实验室淹死的,都是没有兴
趣?没有passion的?未必吧。8年博后,不管你啥兴趣,啥passion都给磨光了。
【在 w*********t 的大作中提到】 : 说得对呀。 : 不过也有很多人是为了教授而教授的。 : 就是喜欢教授那种作息方式吧。
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x3 发帖数: 616 | 17 thanks for sharing your article, it gives me passion.
just hold your passion, and your dream will come true
【在 l*********i 的大作中提到】 : http://www.mitbbs.com/bbsann2/scitech.faq/Biology/puri/M.1168020068.p0/%D0%C2%C4%EA%D3%D0%BD% : B1%D5%F7%CE%C4%B2%CE%C8%FC%D7%F7%C6%B7%A3%AD6+++++++++++++++ : 兴趣重要,passion重要谁都知道,我现在不随便鼓励谁,生物这玩意,一将功成万骨 : 枯。你感上好时候,随便有点兴趣都 : 能发达,赶上不好的时候,付出10倍的精力兴趣也不见得做点自己满意的东西。那些在 : 牛人实验室淹死的,都是没有兴 : 趣?没有passion的?未必吧。8年博后,不管你啥兴趣,啥passion都给磨光了。
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l*********i 发帖数: 332 | 18 thanks, my dreams pretty much become true now.
nice position, enough support, great students
i asked myself sometime, how did i do it? it turns out, i think opportunity
plays the same role as passion and
intellect. without enough luck, the time of reaching one's dream will be
much longer.
【在 x3 的大作中提到】 : thanks for sharing your article, it gives me passion. : just hold your passion, and your dream will come true
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D*********t 发帖数: 370 | 19 I don't think "become" = 做. I meant to say "cheng wei".
【在 l*********i 的大作中提到】 : 不好意思在生物板说,我觉得怎样做教授是个伪命题,怎样做science才是真命题。 : 怎样做研究生啊,怎样做教授啊,都是在怎样做science过程中的问题。 : 做教授难道真是所谓人生目标?太搞笑了吧。是为了做science而做教授,不是为了做 : 教授而做教授。 : 本文题目,怎样做一个教授,其实跟怎样做一个大厨一样,做什么工作不得要点兴趣? : 不得要点passion? : : student
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D*********t 发帖数: 370 | 20 I meant to say interest and passion are necessary. They are clearly not
sufficient. Maybe they are the most important among the many factors that are necessary. In contrast, I don't think luck is necessary. I don't think I had any luck – well, it depends on how you define luck.
【在 l*********i 的大作中提到】 : http://www.mitbbs.com/bbsann2/scitech.faq/Biology/puri/M.1168020068.p0/%D0%C2%C4%EA%D3%D0%BD% : B1%D5%F7%CE%C4%B2%CE%C8%FC%D7%F7%C6%B7%A3%AD6+++++++++++++++ : 兴趣重要,passion重要谁都知道,我现在不随便鼓励谁,生物这玩意,一将功成万骨 : 枯。你感上好时候,随便有点兴趣都 : 能发达,赶上不好的时候,付出10倍的精力兴趣也不见得做点自己满意的东西。那些在 : 牛人实验室淹死的,都是没有兴 : 趣?没有passion的?未必吧。8年博后,不管你啥兴趣,啥passion都给磨光了。
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D*********t 发帖数: 370 | 21 Congratulations!
opportunity
【在 l*********i 的大作中提到】 : thanks, my dreams pretty much become true now. : nice position, enough support, great students : i asked myself sometime, how did i do it? it turns out, i think opportunity : plays the same role as passion and : intellect. without enough luck, the time of reaching one's dream will be : much longer.
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D*********t 发帖数: 370 | 22 Thanks!
【在 h*****n 的大作中提到】 : this is the best post i have ever seen at mitbbs.
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