d*******s
发帖数: 61 | 1 http://www.jbc.org/content/286/32/28656.1.full
http://www.jbc.org/content/286/32/28656.1.full.pdf+html
Down-regulation of miR-1/miR-133 contributes to
re-expression of pacemaker channel genes HCN2 and
HCN4 in hypertrophic heart.
Xiaobin Luo, Huixian Lin, Zhengwei Pan, Jiening Xiao, Yong Zhang, Yanjie Lu,
Baofeng Yang, and Zhiguo Wang
This article has been withdrawn by the authors.
MicroRNA miR-133 represses HERG K channel expression contributing to QT
prolongation in diabetic hearts.
Jiening Xiao, Xiaobin Luo, Huixian Lin, Ying Zhang, Yanjie Lu, Ning Wang,
Yiqiang Zhang, Baofeng Yang, and Zhiguo Wang
This article has been withdrawn by the authors
共同通讯作者：杨宝峰、王志国
杨宝峰 为哈尔滨医科大学校长、中国工程院院士
王志国 为 国家千人计划 入选者。 |
b**********8
发帖数: 349 | 2 接下来不知道他那篇Nat Med命运如何了，之前在丁香园论坛，曾经有战友和他们实验
室的人就该文中某些实验细节问题进行过激烈的辩论，不过后来不了了之了。 |
i****g
发帖数: 3896 | 3 见过这人一次 及能吹 开口就我那篇nat med如何如何 其他人都赶不上
靠这篇文章拿到973首席和工程院院士 据说和上层领导关系不错
Lu,
【在 d*******s 的大作中提到】
: http://www.jbc.org/content/286/32/28656.1.full
: http://www.jbc.org/content/286/32/28656.1.full.pdf+html
: Down-regulation of miR-1/miR-133 contributes to
: re-expression of pacemaker channel genes HCN2 and
: HCN4 in hypertrophic heart.
: Xiaobin Luo, Huixian Lin, Zhengwei Pan, Jiening Xiao, Yong Zhang, Yanjie Lu,
: Baofeng Yang, and Zhiguo Wang
: This article has been withdrawn by the authors.
: MicroRNA miR-133 represses HERG K channel expression contributing to QT
: prolongation in diabetic hearts.
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d*******s
发帖数: 61 | 4 看过该网站回复人的帖子后，发现原来造假问题是异常严重的：WB里面，GAPDH的一张
图片被反复用在多个图中；而且在他们后来发表的其它 8 篇论文中，还存在相同的问
题！这是很明显的蓄意作假了。这些论文在下面用黑体标明：
7 Responses:
Well that was easy….In the v282#17p12363 paper, look at the GAPDH bands in
Figure 3A. Now go back to Figure 2C and look at the GAPDH bands. Lanes 4-5-6
are the same. They duplicated the blot.In the v283#29p20045 paper, Fig 3A
right panel GAPDH blot contains the same 2 bands as Fig. 5D.So, the “
mistake” appears to involve using the same GAPDH blot for different
experiments. This is so common, it’s not even funny any more!
VirgilAugust 8, 2011 at 10:12 amReplyYep, totally agree. I was immediately
drawn to the GAPDH blots in both papers. I have a feeling there is more
duplication in the other blots just using the famous “eyeball test”, but
have not had time to really look at them yet. I also agree that it is not
even funny any more and JBC is the worst for this kind of stuff. Why are
they so arrogant with the retraction notices? They should come out with it.
The journal is in a steep decline anyway and i really don’t trust the
majority of articles in it anymore. Shame.DaveAugust 8, 2011 at 2:01
pmReplyI’m no Photoshop expert, but in Vol 283, the GAPDH blot in Fig 2D (
lower right of panel) looks completely fabricated. When you zoom in, the
pixels just look completely different to the other blots and the shape and
density of the bands looks suspicious to me. I could be wrong.DaveAugust 8,
2011 at 2:12 pmReplyThey loved that figure so much, they published it more
than twice ! The HCN4 and GAPDH blots in Figure 3a of Luo et al., J Biol
Chem 283 (29):20045, 2009 are also the same as those in Figure 4a of Lin et
al., Cell Physiol Biochem 23:317-326, 2009. Things like this usually hint at
bigger problems. Other dubious data from the Wang lab include:The Nkx3.1
EMSA in Figure 6c of Lin et al., J Cell Physiol 212:137, 2007 is the same as
the Stat3 EMSA in Figure 5a of Gao et al., Mol Pharmacol 70:1621, 2006The
E2F1 ChIP blot in Figure 1d of Lin et al., PloSOne 6(5):e20362, 2011 is the
same as the p53 CHiP blot in Figure 3a of Xiao et al., EMBO J 30:524,
2011Lanes 3-6 of the GAPDH control for the HSP70 blot in Figure 3b of Xu et
al., J Cell Sci 120(17): 3045-3052, 2007 are the same as the GAPDH control
for the Nkx3.1 blot in Figure 6g of Lin et al., J Cell Physiol, 212:137,
2007“Oh what a tangled web we weave…” |
d*******s
发帖数: 61 | |
i******u
发帖数: 937 | 6 王志国刚刚拿到的千人计划啊，会不会被方舟子盯上？
【在 d*******s 的大作中提到】
: 另外，国外网站已经对此事进行报道，加拿大蒙特利尔心脏研究中心（王正国所在单位
: ）正在调查此事：
: http://retractionwatch.wordpress.com/2011/08/08/authors-retract
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j*********a
发帖数: 193 | 7 王致国, 杨宝峰很恶劣的人，去年出了一本书，miRNA Research,全部是抄的，其中有
一片是抄 我 的 ~~
我很愤怒，但是我老师不以为然：
Quoting My professor:
This is quite comical. They just cut and paste from our chapter and then
changed the the sentences to present tense.
I am still undecided about whether this hurts us or helps us. There is no
shortage of references to our paper. Citing our NAR paper is what it most
important. People in academics are judged by the number of citation their
manuscripts receive, so any reference to us should be helpful. Nonetheless,
they literally have just cut and pasted our work. I don't even cut and
paste my own work to this extent. Let me ask others around here their
opinion. I have not had this happen before so I am not sure what approach
we should take.
This is quite surprising. They seem to have just copied and pasted
sentences from our paper. I am not sure if it hurts us since they did
reference our paper. I am sure anyone that sees this paper will reference
our paper, which is what's most important; however, they are pushing the
boundaries of copyright infringement. I will check and see to see if there
is anything we should do. Since I cannot see the entire chapter, I am not
sure if it is just a summary of our NAR manuscript or a detailed protocol.
If it is not a protocol chapter, it should not interfere with our book
chapter since anyone trying to repeat our results would likely prefer a
detailed protocol even if it is published later. Anyway, thanks for the
heads up.
Best Regards,
On Jan 13, 2010, at 9:58 AM, I wrote:
Dear Dr. XXXX,
Recently I was surprised to find out that two Chinese guys had used our
published paper solo to write a book chapter for their book-miRNA Detection
Methods (information attached). They stole everything from us for their book
without our permission. I believe they violated our copyrights. It hurts us
because we were asked to write publication on the same topic and their book
came out earlier. I think there should be a way of stopping them. I have
contacted the first author to send us a copy of their book chapter, but I
still haven't got it.
Do you think we should do something about it?
their book info:
http://www.springerlink.com/content/x7240v532361/?p=efe73192c73 |
W*****o
发帖数: 1780 | 8 老方现在正在收集材料呢，楼上几位的暴料老方也都收藏了，就等着看到时候一出手就
致这二位于死地。一个院士，一个千人，这种机会老方不会放过的。 |
j*********n
发帖数: 220 | 9 这个才是最恶心的，明明自己中国人，偏要指明‘two Chinese guys'.
Dear Dr. XXXX,
Recently I was surprised to find out that two Chinese guys had used our
published paper solo to write a book chapter for their book-miRNA Detection
,
【在 j*********a 的大作中提到】
: 王致国, 杨宝峰很恶劣的人，去年出了一本书，miRNA Research,全部是抄的，其中有
: 一片是抄 我 的 ~~
: 我很愤怒，但是我老师不以为然：
: Quoting My professor:
: This is quite comical. They just cut and paste from our chapter and then
: changed the the sentences to present tense.
: I am still undecided about whether this hurts us or helps us. There is no
: shortage of references to our paper. Citing our NAR paper is what it most
: important. People in academics are judged by the number of citation their
: manuscripts receive, so any reference to us should be helpful. Nonetheless,
|
g********r
发帖数: 8017 | 10 快删了吧。对你有利的坏事就可以容忍。这种话不能公开说的。会损你老师的学术声誉。
【在 j*********a 的大作中提到】
: 王致国, 杨宝峰很恶劣的人，去年出了一本书，miRNA Research,全部是抄的，其中有
: 一片是抄 我 的 ~~
: 我很愤怒，但是我老师不以为然：
: Quoting My professor:
: This is quite comical. They just cut and paste from our chapter and then
: changed the the sentences to present tense.
: I am still undecided about whether this hurts us or helps us. There is no
: shortage of references to our paper. Citing our NAR paper is what it most
: important. People in academics are judged by the number of citation their
: manuscripts receive, so any reference to us should be helpful. Nonetheless,
|
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B******o
发帖数: 496 | 11 同情你。
不过你这信写的不厚道
Nonetheless,
【在 j*********a 的大作中提到】
: 王致国, 杨宝峰很恶劣的人，去年出了一本书，miRNA Research,全部是抄的，其中有
: 一片是抄 我 的 ~~
: 我很愤怒，但是我老师不以为然：
: Quoting My professor:
: This is quite comical. They just cut and paste from our chapter and then
: changed the the sentences to present tense.
: I am still undecided about whether this hurts us or helps us. There is no
: shortage of references to our paper. Citing our NAR paper is what it most
: important. People in academics are judged by the number of citation their
: manuscripts receive, so any reference to us should be helpful. Nonetheless,
|
O******e
发帖数: 4845 | 12 哎，他这样写，真是让人觉得很不舒服。。。
Detection
【在 j*********n 的大作中提到】
: 这个才是最恶心的，明明自己中国人，偏要指明‘two Chinese guys'.
:
: Dear Dr. XXXX,
: Recently I was surprised to find out that two Chinese guys had used our
: published paper solo to write a book chapter for their book-miRNA Detection
: ,
|
p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 13 说的是你说chinese guys很搞笑 不是说你不能揭发批评 lol。chinese这个修诗词在你
的信里出现有意义么？
【在 j*********a 的大作中提到】
: 王致国, 杨宝峰很恶劣的人，去年出了一本书，miRNA Research,全部是抄的，其中有
: 一片是抄 我 的 ~~
: 我很愤怒，但是我老师不以为然：
: Quoting My professor:
: This is quite comical. They just cut and paste from our chapter and then
: changed the the sentences to present tense.
: I am still undecided about whether this hurts us or helps us. There is no
: shortage of references to our paper. Citing our NAR paper is what it most
: important. People in academics are judged by the number of citation their
: manuscripts receive, so any reference to us should be helpful. Nonetheless,
|
j*********n
发帖数: 220 | 14 banana
【在 j*********a 的大作中提到】
: 王致国, 杨宝峰很恶劣的人，去年出了一本书，miRNA Research,全部是抄的，其中有
: 一片是抄 我 的 ~~
: 我很愤怒，但是我老师不以为然：
: Quoting My professor:
: This is quite comical. They just cut and paste from our chapter and then
: changed the the sentences to present tense.
: I am still undecided about whether this hurts us or helps us. There is no
: shortage of references to our paper. Citing our NAR paper is what it most
: important. People in academics are judged by the number of citation their
: manuscripts receive, so any reference to us should be helpful. Nonetheless,
|
p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 15 他俩都是中年男性 你怎么不说mid-aged guys？他们俩都还是亚洲人，你怎么不说
asian guys？他们俩应该都结婚了，你怎么不说married guys？lol
而且什么叫没有比chinese更合适的修诗词了？你的意思是chinese这个修饰词和他们抄
袭你的文章最相关？？
【在 j*********a 的大作中提到】
: 王致国, 杨宝峰很恶劣的人，去年出了一本书，miRNA Research,全部是抄的，其中有
: 一片是抄 我 的 ~~
: 我很愤怒，但是我老师不以为然：
: Quoting My professor:
: This is quite comical. They just cut and paste from our chapter and then
: changed the the sentences to present tense.
: I am still undecided about whether this hurts us or helps us. There is no
: shortage of references to our paper. Citing our NAR paper is what it most
: important. People in academics are judged by the number of citation their
: manuscripts receive, so any reference to us should be helpful. Nonetheless,
|
K******S
发帖数: 10109 | 16 You are still too young. In terms of political correctness, you didn't have
to mention nationality/ethic/racial information at all. Just mentioned that
you found a book used your writings without permission.
【在 j*********a 的大作中提到】
: 王致国, 杨宝峰很恶劣的人，去年出了一本书，miRNA Research,全部是抄的，其中有
: 一片是抄 我 的 ~~
: 我很愤怒，但是我老师不以为然：
: Quoting My professor:
: This is quite comical. They just cut and paste from our chapter and then
: changed the the sentences to present tense.
: I am still undecided about whether this hurts us or helps us. There is no
: shortage of references to our paper. Citing our NAR paper is what it most
: important. People in academics are judged by the number of citation their
: manuscripts receive, so any reference to us should be helpful. Nonetheless,
|
j*********n
发帖数: 220 | 17 你太有才了！人家自己才是追求political correctness。
have
that
【在 K******S 的大作中提到】
: You are still too young. In terms of political correctness, you didn't have
: to mention nationality/ethic/racial information at all. Just mentioned that
: you found a book used your writings without permission.
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d*******e
发帖数: 1649 | 18 没必要这么激动吧，不过写这些东西出来确实unwise
【在 j*********a 的大作中提到】
: 王致国, 杨宝峰很恶劣的人，去年出了一本书，miRNA Research,全部是抄的，其中有
: 一片是抄 我 的 ~~
: 我很愤怒，但是我老师不以为然：
: Quoting My professor:
: This is quite comical. They just cut and paste from our chapter and then
: changed the the sentences to present tense.
: I am still undecided about whether this hurts us or helps us. There is no
: shortage of references to our paper. Citing our NAR paper is what it most
: important. People in academics are judged by the number of citation their
: manuscripts receive, so any reference to us should be helpful. Nonetheless,
|
j*********a
发帖数: 193 | 19 I am a scientist. And the communication was between two scientists (a
student and a professor). I don't know what is political wrongness of that?
did i judge their wrong doings based on their nationalities intead of the
facts?
If I came to my conclusion due to their nationality, then I would be wrong.
But is it??
【在 j*********n 的大作中提到】
: 你太有才了！人家自己才是追求political correctness。
:
: have
: that
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x******h
发帖数: 838 | 20 他们确实是中国人，所以你这个修饰词本身指代确实准确，但是这个修饰词和你要说的
问题是没有关系的，他们是男的，你怎么不说两个男人？你怎么不说两个地球人？你怎
么不说两个生物？
既然无关，你就不应该提。一个完全和种族无关的话题你提到种族你就有歧视的嫌疑。
你要是说的是两个黑人怎么怎么，只需要用 B 开头的，连 N 开头的都不需要用，被发
现了开除算轻的，不服你就下次试试。
这个世界上也差不多只有中国人被人说中国人怎么怎么而没有后果，很可悲，更可悲的
是你这种跟着说的，更更可悲的是被指出来还嘴硬的。
?
.
【在 j*********a 的大作中提到】
: I am a scientist. And the communication was between two scientists (a
: student and a professor). I don't know what is political wrongness of that?
: did i judge their wrong doings based on their nationalities intead of the
: facts?
: If I came to my conclusion due to their nationality, then I would be wrong.
: But is it??
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s*****v
发帖数: 274 | 21 哥，如果您只能输入英文的话，那就也同时注意点英文语法。
“I don't know what is political wrongness of that?" 至少两处错误。
还有 ”wrongdoings" 而不是 "wrong doings“ 诸如此类的。
?
.
【在 j*********a 的大作中提到】
: I am a scientist. And the communication was between two scientists (a
: student and a professor). I don't know what is political wrongness of that?
: did i judge their wrong doings based on their nationalities intead of the
: facts?
: If I came to my conclusion due to their nationality, then I would be wrong.
: But is it??
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g*****p
发帖数: 451 | 22 看来不是我一个人被恶心到了，呵呵
虽然这英文写的不咋的，不过远远没有作者的态度糟糕
Detection
【在 j*********n 的大作中提到】
: 这个才是最恶心的，明明自己中国人，偏要指明‘two Chinese guys'.
:
: Dear Dr. XXXX,
: Recently I was surprised to find out that two Chinese guys had used our
: published paper solo to write a book chapter for their book-miRNA Detection
: ,
|
g*****p
发帖数: 451 | 23 开什么玩笑
他/她这吊儿郎当的英文怎么可能是banana
【在 j*********n 的大作中提到】
: banana
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g*****p
发帖数: 451 | 24 你还算不上scientist吧
准确的说法叫科技工作者
?
.
【在 j*********a 的大作中提到】
: I am a scientist. And the communication was between two scientists (a
: student and a professor). I don't know what is political wrongness of that?
: did i judge their wrong doings based on their nationalities intead of the
: facts?
: If I came to my conclusion due to their nationality, then I would be wrong.
: But is it??
|
p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 25 不是scientist你给发明个对应的英语词吧。。
【在 g*****p 的大作中提到】
: 你还算不上scientist吧
: 准确的说法叫科技工作者
:
: ?
: .
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j*********n
发帖数: 220 | 26 Clearly banana-wantbe
【在 g*****p 的大作中提到】
: 开什么玩笑
: 他/她这吊儿郎当的英文怎么可能是banana
|
j*********n
发帖数: 220 | 27 精确的说法是science labor
【在 g*****p 的大作中提到】
: 你还算不上scientist吧
: 准确的说法叫科技工作者
:
: ?
: .
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p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 28 science slave算了 lol
【在 j*********n 的大作中提到】
: 精确的说法是science labor
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g*****p
发帖数: 451 | 29 researcher
【在 p*****m 的大作中提到】
: 不是scientist你给发明个对应的英语词吧。。
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p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 30 这个可以 不过没觉得英语里researcher就比scientist低等
【在 g*****p 的大作中提到】
: researcher
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g*****p
发帖数: 451 | 31 这个就考英语能力了
本来就是用来揶揄这人的，他/她不是还嫌说他不是的人英文不好，也不是在美国读过
研究生么
通常情况下researcher和scientist是没有任何区别的
如果cnn采访他和他老板可以说"two scientists"没有任何问题
但他本身就是搞自然科学的，而且陈述时还把自己和他老板同时并列提出，这个时候
two scientist就不是那么准确的一个词
其实中文可以对应的非常好--科学家VS科技工作者
讲个会说话的学生和老板的对话：
老板：你也不努力点，难道不想成为个好科学家？
学生：嘿嘿...您是大科学家，我只是个科技工作者...
总的来说，几乎可以混用，但是特定场合用词用得好就叫考究了
【在 p*****m 的大作中提到】
: 这个可以 不过没觉得英语里researcher就比scientist低等
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p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 32 "你也不努力点 争取成为scientist"
“您是scientist，我只不过是researcher”
你这都什么主意。。他老板要是美国人 八成根本就不知道他在说什么
【在 g*****p 的大作中提到】
: 这个就考英语能力了
: 本来就是用来揶揄这人的，他/她不是还嫌说他不是的人英文不好，也不是在美国读过
: 研究生么
: 通常情况下researcher和scientist是没有任何区别的
: 如果cnn采访他和他老板可以说"two scientists"没有任何问题
: 但他本身就是搞自然科学的，而且陈述时还把自己和他老板同时并列提出，这个时候
: two scientist就不是那么准确的一个词
: 其实中文可以对应的非常好--科学家VS科技工作者
: 讲个会说话的学生和老板的对话：
: 老板：你也不努力点，难道不想成为个好科学家？
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g*****p
发帖数: 451 | 33 那你就找个名校毕业的native speaker，好好聊聊再说
【在 p*****m 的大作中提到】
: "你也不努力点 争取成为scientist"
: “您是scientist，我只不过是researcher”
: 你这都什么主意。。他老板要是美国人 八成根本就不知道他在说什么
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p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 34 native speaker压根就不会说出早日成为scientist这话啊 因为默认我们都已经是
scientist了。。
【在 g*****p 的大作中提到】
: 那你就找个名校毕业的native speaker，好好聊聊再说
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j*********n
发帖数: 220 | 35 这个chinese guy更搞。
【在 g*****p 的大作中提到】
: 那你就找个名校毕业的native speaker，好好聊聊再说
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A********2
发帖数: 107 | 36 我觉得LZ可能英语主要是英语不是特别好，跟一个外国人而且不是特别亲密的朋友用
Chinese guys是不妥，但也不至于这么mean吧，作为一个中国人，你英语再好，能好过
哪些native English Speaker吗，如果你曾经因为语言而有过一点点自卑的话，就该为
哪些英语不好的人想一想，how do they feel? 大家都一样，因为我们都是口是心非，
脑子里想的是汉语，嘴里说的是英语，anything wrong with the grammar? By the
way, I know it's a little bit rude, but still can't help saying "F**k the
grammar" |
p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 37 你确认一帮人喷她/他是因为语法问题？？
【在 A********2 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得LZ可能英语主要是英语不是特别好，跟一个外国人而且不是特别亲密的朋友用
: Chinese guys是不妥，但也不至于这么mean吧，作为一个中国人，你英语再好，能好过
: 哪些native English Speaker吗，如果你曾经因为语言而有过一点点自卑的话，就该为
: 哪些英语不好的人想一想，how do they feel? 大家都一样，因为我们都是口是心非，
: 脑子里想的是汉语，嘴里说的是英语，anything wrong with the grammar? By the
: way, I know it's a little bit rude, but still can't help saying "F**k the
: grammar"
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j*********n
发帖数: 220 | 38 楼上同学中文不太好，不要太介意。
【在 p*****m 的大作中提到】
: 你确认一帮人喷她/他是因为语法问题？？
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a********k
发帖数: 2273 | 39 我认为他觉得楼主用chinese guy是因为英语不好
就像中文我们说有俩中国人剽窃了，楼主直接翻译成英文chinese guy了，没有思考这
么和老板说是否政治正确
【在 p*****m 的大作中提到】
: 你确认一帮人喷她/他是因为语法问题？？
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A********2
发帖数: 107 | |
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j*********n
发帖数: 220 | 41 啥英语不好？这个是潜意识要踩一脚的问题。看她那信的写法和后面的答复就知道了。
【在 a********k 的大作中提到】
: 我认为他觉得楼主用chinese guy是因为英语不好
: 就像中文我们说有俩中国人剽窃了，楼主直接翻译成英文chinese guy了，没有思考这
: 么和老板说是否政治正确
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A********2
发帖数: 107 | 42 呵呵，If I did mind,but of course I don't,that's more like the so-called
BANANA
【在 j*********n 的大作中提到】
: 楼上同学中文不太好，不要太介意。
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j*********n
发帖数: 220 | 43 奥，english也不太行。我不是名校出来的native speaker都看出来了。
【在 A********2 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，If I did mind,but of course I don't,that's more like the so-called
: BANANA
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A********2
发帖数: 107 | 44 请不吝赐教
【在 j*********n 的大作中提到】
: 奥，english也不太行。我不是名校出来的native speaker都看出来了。
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j*********n
发帖数: 220 | 45 不客气。你标点都点错了。
【在 A********2 的大作中提到】
: 请不吝赐教
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A********2
发帖数: 107 | 46 不愧是scientist,so critical句号
算了，大家都是中国人，为外国话打口水仗没意思。
不过今天晚饭吃多了，english的E好像要大写。 |
O******e
发帖数: 4845 | 47 Scientist本来就是做科学研究的人，等同于researcher.
至于中文里的“科学家”，更像是"established scientist".
【在 p*****m 的大作中提到】
: native speaker压根就不会说出早日成为scientist这话啊 因为默认我们都已经是
: scientist了。。
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s*****v
发帖数: 274 | 48 "另外，你是中国来的土博，postdoc吧？？ GRE逻辑明显有问题~"
言为其心
Zhuangbilism的症状较明显，还狂秀烂英文，洋博为数不多的优势就这么被毁了。
【在 A********2 的大作中提到】
: 开始不是，但是后来感觉味道有点变了...
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j*********a
发帖数: 193 | 49 我承认我无聊我还在会这帖子，你们够挑剔了-我居然不是scientist了，我现在的job
tittle 就是senior scientist。
你们的判断我不是scientist，算不算歧视？？
【在 g*****p 的大作中提到】
: 你还算不上scientist吧
: 准确的说法叫科技工作者
:
: ?
: .
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n********k
发帖数: 2818 | 50 If I were you, I would go back to have a good fuck or whatever---don't make
fool of urself here this way...BTW, u are likely very decent person...
nonetheless the way you behaved here and wrote are somewhat arguable...just
my two cents and good luck...
job
【在 j*********a 的大作中提到】
: 我承认我无聊我还在会这帖子，你们够挑剔了-我居然不是scientist了，我现在的job
: tittle 就是senior scientist。
: 你们的判断我不是scientist，算不算歧视？？
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z********8
发帖数: 818 | |
r****8
发帖数: 56 | |
h****n
发帖数: 2552 | 53 wo jue de ni ken ding shi ke xue jia,jiu zheng ru wo jue de wo zi ji neng
gou yong di dao de ying yu hui tie yi yang
lou xia de, wo de ying yu di dao bu di dao?
job
【在 j*********a 的大作中提到】
: 我承认我无聊我还在会这帖子，你们够挑剔了-我居然不是scientist了，我现在的job
: tittle 就是senior scientist。
: 你们的判断我不是scientist，算不算歧视？？
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s*****v
发帖数: 274 | 54 Nide yingyu didao ge P!!! Liandu dou buhui!
LOL
【在 h****n 的大作中提到】
: wo jue de ni ken ding shi ke xue jia,jiu zheng ru wo jue de wo zi ji neng
: gou yong di dao de ying yu hui tie yi yang
: lou xia de, wo de ying yu di dao bu di dao?
:
: job
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c*****i
发帖数: 1392 | 55 title不是scientist,不一定不是scientist；title是scientist,未见得就是真正的
scientist。人家判断一个人是否是scientist,可能是根据他的表现，而不是title。至
少你把“国内的土博”和“GRE逻辑明显有问题”关联起来，就不是一个scientist (还
senior?)应有的表现
job
【在 j*********a 的大作中提到】
: 我承认我无聊我还在会这帖子，你们够挑剔了-我居然不是scientist了，我现在的job
: tittle 就是senior scientist。
: 你们的判断我不是scientist，算不算歧视？？
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f*******e
发帖数: 354 | 56 re
【在 x******h 的大作中提到】
: 他们确实是中国人，所以你这个修饰词本身指代确实准确，但是这个修饰词和你要说的
: 问题是没有关系的，他们是男的，你怎么不说两个男人？你怎么不说两个地球人？你怎
: 么不说两个生物？
: 既然无关，你就不应该提。一个完全和种族无关的话题你提到种族你就有歧视的嫌疑。
: 你要是说的是两个黑人怎么怎么，只需要用 B 开头的，连 N 开头的都不需要用，被发
: 现了开除算轻的，不服你就下次试试。
: 这个世界上也差不多只有中国人被人说中国人怎么怎么而没有后果，很可悲，更可悲的
: 是你这种跟着说的，更更可悲的是被指出来还嘴硬的。
:
: ?
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y***i
发帖数: 11639 | 57 Nice argument.
【在 x******h 的大作中提到】
: 他们确实是中国人，所以你这个修饰词本身指代确实准确，但是这个修饰词和你要说的
: 问题是没有关系的，他们是男的，你怎么不说两个男人？你怎么不说两个地球人？你怎
: 么不说两个生物？
: 既然无关，你就不应该提。一个完全和种族无关的话题你提到种族你就有歧视的嫌疑。
: 你要是说的是两个黑人怎么怎么，只需要用 B 开头的，连 N 开头的都不需要用，被发
: 现了开除算轻的，不服你就下次试试。
: 这个世界上也差不多只有中国人被人说中国人怎么怎么而没有后果，很可悲，更可悲的
: 是你这种跟着说的，更更可悲的是被指出来还嘴硬的。
:
: ?
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t**m
发帖数: 158 | 58 这个....
试试”
【在 j*********a 的大作中提到】
: 我承认我无聊我还在会这帖子，你们够挑剔了-我居然不是scientist了，我现在的job
: tittle 就是senior scientist。
: 你们的判断我不是scientist，算不算歧视？？
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K******S
发帖数: 10109 | 59 julietpanaa (julie)
stop dumping trash into my mail box, bitch. If you get anything to say, say
it in public.
have
that
【在 K******S 的大作中提到】
: You are still too young. In terms of political correctness, you didn't have
: to mention nationality/ethic/racial information at all. Just mentioned that
: you found a book used your writings without permission.
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t*****4
发帖数: 4 | 60 Montreal的调查结果会给出结论的。杨宝峰依靠校长的权利，雇佣海外的枪手，靠Nat
Med的文章拿到工程院院士，973首席，中华医学会副会长。利用权力在国内封杀撤销论
文的消息。DXY的讨论也被和谐了。不过，出来混，早晚是要还的。请拭目以待。 |
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t*****4
发帖数: 4 | 61 提上来，别沉下去。
请关注，还是院士，长江，千人。 |
h*****t
发帖数: 103 | |
