d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 1 换了个modem，网络终于正常。可又是悲摧的一天，心态还算好，几把牌可能有问题。
1 6k 33
2 4k 5.5 + 5.5 + 5.5
3 5k 11
4 5k 60 + 60
5 6.5k 33
6 freeroll
7 25k 11
8 35k 60
9 35k 33
1） AJo 20bb 3bet shove EP 2bb open, lost to qq, knockout
2） EP 5bb open, hero reraise to 11bb with AA, LP pro cold shove 110bb, EP
allin call, hero allin call, pro kk, EP TT, flop KTx, pro win, rebuy. 22
limp, flop 245r, set over set lost to the same TT guy, rebuy, 15bb aqo sb
pot squeeze, CO limp/call, flop kjxr, hero cbet pot size as... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 2 1 5.5+5+5
2(0815) 11+10+10
3(8203) 11 $26.22
4(4529) 3.3
5 11
6(7995) 11
7(9995) 11+10+10
8(399) 3.3+3+3
1, late registered, did notice it is a turbo. I only have 5bb on big blind
with QTo, shove and lost. Double re-buy, 10bb on small blind with KQs, shove
, knockout. 迅雷不及掩耳盗铃啊 ~_~b
2, kinda run good at beginning, 2 sets cleared 2 overplay guys. Is today my
SET day?lol, 66 flat at btn and hit another set, cleared a donk's combo draw
. 2 hours lat... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 3 难道又是超级悲剧的一天
1 4.5k gtd 1r/1a 11 + 10 + 10
2 3k gtd 1a 60 + 55
3 4k gtd turbo 44
4 7.5k gtd 11
5 2.5k gtd 1a 11 + 10
晚上8pm，internet 开始抽筋，果断de-register第六场，试图借邻居的网络完成剩下
的比赛，不想，laptop运行poker软件又碰到问题，折腾到了9点，internet自动恢复，
哥一边问候comcast一边打开poker软件，
3号已经挂了
1号<10bb, 果断shove，挂
2号，尼玛120刀的买入啊！哥断线的时候是10k的chips，回来只有4.8k，且盲注400，
第二手哥小盲，44果断3bet shove utg chips leader的2bb open。对手tank and fold
，嘟嘟哝哝说kq，30% equity都没有，真把哥当rock了。紧接着下一把，哥button
with k5o，15bb stack，ope... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 4 1 750 gtd 11
2 750 gtd 3.3 + 3.3 $7.63
3 1.5k gtd 11 $219.42
4 750 gtd 11+11+11 BUBBLED
5 3.5k gtd 11+10+10
6 3.5k gtd 11
7 1k gtd 1.1+1+2+2+1
-110.7 227.05 +117.6
1 AJo 20bb 3bet shove EP pro 2.4x open < QQ, knockout
2 AKs UTG+1 6bb 3bet, MP cold call, other fold. 7d3dAc 7s 8d , flop check,
check, turn check/villain ½ pot/hero 3x shove/villain call with Ad2d,
noted. Re-buy. ITM, KQo EP 14bb open shove<10bb AQo, cri... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 5 4篇日记写下来，bankroll down了将近1k哈，今天又down 400，降级就在眼前，哥实在
是有点无奈。不过这也算是正常，本来学习就是要付出代价，这来回几千的对哥来说也
影响不到生活，相反的戒骄戒躁，该怎么玩就怎么玩，在哥看来才是更重要的，以此与
广大胸怀赌神梦想的有志宅男共勉。
05/27/13
1 4k 11 + 10
2 3k 60 + 55 + 55
3 3k 44 + 40
4 5k 11 + 11 + 11 + 11
5 10k 60
6 4k 33
1) AA win 100bb against JJ on QT2r 3bet flop. Villain is marked as overplay
fish. UTG limp, UTG+1 limp, MP min raise 2bb, BUTTON call, SB call, hero on
BB with KK pot size squeeze 12bb, MP flat, BUTTON flat, flop 456r, BUTTON
shove his rest 2x... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 6 1 1k gtd 11
2 1.5k gtd 11
3 750 gtd 3.3
4 500 gtd 22 $208
5 1.5k gtd 3.3+3+3
6 3k gtd 11+10+10 $64.60
-87.6 272.6 +185
1, AJo 10bb < 77, out
2, 66 10bb reshove CL 2bb open, CL call, <99, out
3, T7o on SB shove 6bb BB < AQo, K5s MP 6bb open shove<33, out
4, BTN 10bb K6o shove MP CL(41/0)'s limp, SB snap reshove, > SB's AJo,
double up.
Stack 25bb, Pos 4/6, first 4 get paid,这桌打得要毁三观了，昨那位奇葩哥风格大
变41/11/2，坐哥左手，再左面又是一家32/6/6，各种烂牌flat。哥慢慢看戏。10bb EP
with ... 阅读全帖 |
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f********d
发帖数: 796 | 7 本人从2016年初开始打牌，一直努力学习。目前主打bovada 9max NL50.我会把每天有
意思的牌普记录下来，有打的臭的，打的好的。大家一起讨论学习。
从7月开始用软件记录自己的成绩，目前好像是5bb/100 hand，大概2-3万手牌吧。之前
在水木上贴牌普，以后两边一起更新。
hand8
好久没来了，发两手nit fold
hero has KJo MP, V open 3bb EP. Hero call. both has around 100bb
flop JJ8 R, V check, hero bet 60% pot. V call
Turn 4, now board has two d. V check , hero bet 70% pot. V call
River is 7d, V shove allin. Hero tank fold
这个对手有点疯，但是我读他可能是88，9dTd这样的牌。
hand 9
hero has AKo MP open 3bb，V is in CO call the open. both 100b
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f********d
发帖数: 796 | 8 本人从2016年初开始打牌，一直努力学习。目前主打bovada 9max NL50.我会把每天有
意思的牌普记录下来，有打的臭的，打的好的。大家一起讨论学习。
从7月开始用软件记录自己的成绩，目前好像是5bb/100 hand，大概2-3万手牌吧。之前
在水木上贴牌普，以后两边一起更新。
hand8
好久没来了，发两手nit fold
hero has KJo MP, V open 3bb EP. Hero call. both has around 100bb
flop JJ8 R, V check, hero bet 60% pot. V call
Turn 4, now board has two d. V check , hero bet 70% pot. V call
River is 7d, V shove allin. Hero tank fold
这个对手有点疯，但是我读他可能是88，9dTd这样的牌。
hand 9
hero has AKo MP open 3bb，V is in CO call the open. both 100b
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 9 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
TheBigSlick (Ivan) 于 (Mon Nov 21 14:00:50 2011, 美东) 提到:
I don't have many interesting hands to share these days. I am playing boring
poker with either small gains and small loss.
But there was one hand I played serveral weeks ago that I think may be worth
discussion.
I was playing NL2/5 table, villain was a young asian in mid 20s. He sits
down with maybe $300 chips, run up to $500ish when this hand happend. I was
sitting maybe $600 chips and had him c... 阅读全帖 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 10 I only shove with 22-55 there against opp who raise over 80%. that guy has
been raising 100% on button during the match.
for 25 BB, I usually call with hands like QTs since it plays so well
post flop heads up. by shoving ,most opp will fold hand like Q5o that got
dominated by us and calling with better hand.
for 15BB , calling or shoving depends on opp ,game dynamics etc.Against
a majority opp,I still prefer to call.
for small SCs, to make shoving profitable play, FE is re... 阅读全帖 |
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d******u
发帖数: 385 | 11 昨晚去离家一个小时的一个小赌场玩了一会，从6点打到11点，up $240...
刚开始的时候牌不好，最好的牌是QTo, hit到nut straight 还是跟别人split pot.
然后8点多的时候来了一个maniac 1, 基本上只要是top pair, 或者是on draw的牌都是
直接shove. 这位哥们在short stack （$100）被清了几次后，开始转运，hit到set,赢
了$100多，拿到一把A5s,flop 55Q5K,结果在他river bet $30后，一位哥们头脑发热
all in,结果他snap call,double up to $350左右。
此后，来了另外一个maniac 2 （长相酷似t-bag）,此君pre-flop把把raise （从7到20
不等）,而且他们哥两挨一块，打得不易热乎。
一手牌 maniac 2 preflop raise $7, 我左边一位哥们raise到$20,maniac 2 想了一会
call, flop comes AA2, maniac 2 lead out for $20, original raiser s... 阅读全帖 |
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p**********1
发帖数: 1458 | 12 in general 15-22bb stack is considered optimal 3bet-shove stack, in the
sense the risk-reward ratio is best, i.e., you're not risking too much to
gain a substantial pot. and you have decent fold equity because the initial
aggressor would not have proper odds to call your shove too light.
besides the 3bet-shove, you can still raise/fold vs some tight-nonaggressive
players (aka rocks). against hyper-aggro donks who shove over your raise
100%, raise/call with decent hands is high-variance but very ... 阅读全帖 |
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D********i
发帖数: 78 | 13 下面大部分用中文写。因为我觉得对牌的描述用英文较方便，对于自己的想法和打法用
中文描述更加清楚。
问题主要集中于最后一把牌。首先要说的是，这把牌ATo@BB从一开始打的就是错的。但
是我有我自己的想法。我先把我当时的想法写下来，后面的反思再补充。我和big
stack之间对于彼此并没有太多的information。但是我觉得他至少是一个decent
player。因为通过我的观察，在他坐在桌上的时间里，他不管在不在玩都很注意看整个
的action，而不是fold掉之后就抬头开始看NBA了，所以我觉得他赢得那么多筹码不是
完全靠运气，而是有一定的实力，capable of folding his second best hand。除了
最后一句，是我在这手牌之前对他的印象，最后一句是我在拿到ATo之后的想法。
面对他的raise，我3-bet的理由是：
1. 保护我的盲注，看看他会不会fold。
2. 因为我俩并没有在一桌上共同呆过很长时间，我并不太清楚他的range在哪里，MP 3
.5x 开锅可以代表很多手牌，尤其是对于一个big stack。我又OOP，所以需要更多的
inform... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 14 前言：
哥一直跟朋友讲，打牌绝对不能无脑模式化，要有质疑精神，钻研精神。可是哥自己始
终还是无法坚决贯彻。浪费了真金白银买来的hm2的大好资源。每天貌似打很多手牌，
但是打过算过，也不复盘总结，这样下去真的是白白浪费中年的大好时光。
哥最终还是下定决心，牺牲tourney被knockout之后打dota的时间，每天花个半小时看
看复盘、写写扑克日记。
背景介绍：
哥就是屌丝中的战斗机...
2010年6月充值，从online micro stake 6－max cash game和freeroll、micro buy－
in tournament开始打起，享受着上上下下的快感，前后投入总额270刀，逐步升级，
2013年之前主打50NL 6－max cash game ＋ 3刀至11刀买入级别的tourney，盈利不错
。2013年头2个月running super good，重心逐步转到tourney，对tourney strategy、
心理控制以及资金管理方面有一点点心得(虽然skill set还属中下游，每天还在不停的
犯错)。哥完全依靠数据打牌。最喜欢说的两句话，it dep... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 15 1 3K 1R/1A 11 + 10 + 10
2 3K 1R/1A 60 + 55 + 55
3 2K 22
4 3K Turbo 1R/1A 44 + 40
5 4K R/1A 11 + 10 + 10
6 4.5K 33
哥觉得自己是属青蛙的：
1号，11bb a5o在UTG推没人接。k9o，小盲位3bet shove 11bb，CL kq call，挂
3 号，庄家位15bb AQo 3bb open，小盲flat，flop 84Jr cbet ½/call了小盲位
橙色玩家的raise shove，对方亮出 83s and hold（好吧），挂
6 号，AKo 4bet shove to 50bb jj，输到只剩10bb。大盲位用a4o 9bb squeeze 一个
松哥ep 2bb的open以及后面一群松哥flat的4-way的pot，庄家位平call/reshove with
ATs，CO玩家，用... 阅读全帖 |
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q****8
发帖数: 3281 | 16 这牌SLOW PLAY INDUCE BLUFF没什么问题。
关键是RIVER SHOVE的READ。他以前是否有RIVER SHOVE BLUFF很重要。
根据哥的血泪经验，符合以下2点的情况下DONK十有八九是真有NUTS，不管LINE有多奇
怪：
1.RIVER SHOVE。
2.SHOVE SIZE和前两轮他的BET SIZE不成比例。
注意，这里RIVER一定要是SHOVE。对于DONK，我碰到过好几个RIVER POT SIZE BET 哪
怕 OVERBET 经常会是BLUFF，但对同一个DONK，他超大的 RIVER SHOVE 十有八九是有
牌。
举两个例子：
1. FLOP TURN 我CH-C 两轮with middle pair, 他每次下注大概都是20，RIVER HIT
TRIP，哥CH,打算RAISE。DONK 直接1K SHOVE,哥顿时傻眼。我也差不多1K，想了半天还
是CALL了。他TOP BOAT。
2. DONK PREFLOP 3-BET OOP, 哥AJs,CALL. FLOP C-BET HALF,40左右，哥CALL with
TPTK。... 阅读全帖 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 17 Yeah. I also notice what causes the biggest problem here is the preflop re-
raise size. It works sometimes, but does not mean it is good play. In this
peticular hand, if there is no cold-caller, I will not 3Bet so big. However,
if I 3bet so big, and get called, there is no good option for me.
I agree everything what you have said.
When one shorter stacker( 60BB or 50BB effective) opens from early position
and get called by one cold caller, flating with AK/TT,JJ should be the best
option. Just pl... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 18 I think it is ok to bet bet and shove on that board with J9.. to check call
2 pot size and shove river on this board is not very good . Someone was bluffing or just turned his set to full house. Lead shoving is terrible. In fact, J9 need to shove that turn facing strong action. You will get so many calls by set, small straight and those who can't lay down a combo draws. If you don't shove turn then on the river you can check call from a lot of hand you beat actually + a lot of bluffs. Even AA w... 阅读全帖 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 19 分析的不错，这个vid对我启发很大，river 的那部分看了好几遍。 我在打 Hu碰
到这种情况时，除非对手经常喜欢shove/overbet missed draw,经常是主动shove 的，
担心对手那得是的有showdown value 的牌，check behind, 怕miss value. 另外，主
动shove 更像一个missed draw. 看来，跟真正的高手过招，思路的确是不同。
另外一个就是要搞清自己rep 的range, 和我们分析的对手的range. 加上对手的
tendency, 作出最优化的river decision.
对手check call 可能更有优势, 平时我们见到的鱼都是又松又软(其实有些weak reg
也是), calling shove range is wider than shove range (big leak), 当然主动
shove好. 毕竟一般Isildur不会坐在我们对面.
would shove small flush for value if checked to (真高手啊)
check... 阅读全帖 |
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h*****s
发帖数: 3289 | 20 Just got back from local casino.
It's not exactly my first time, as I played twice at TI, Las Vegas during a
crazy road trip last year. They only have 5 or 6 tables.
Played 100NL (2&3) for about 4/5 hours. Two big fishes (A&B) at the table (
playing crappy hands and keeping calling & calling). However, I was card
dead most of the time. There's not much I could do other than seeing other
solid players eating up their buy-ins one by one. One hand i flopped a
broadway,and A called my big re-raise( ... 阅读全帖 |
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t*********t
发帖数: 1058 | 21 我偶尔去南加附近的赌场打打扑克，遇见了好几次Flush Draw，都是All In输了。我具
体记得的有如下几手。恳请大家指点指点。
1/3 and 2/5 NL cash game. Both had decent stacks (75 to 150 BB). Most
players were tight aggressive and a few were loose passive.
~~
Hand 1 - 1/3 NL.
Hero (BB): AA
Preflop: Several limped in. Hero raised to 15. Two cold called.
Flop: 3h4h9c. Hero raised to 25. One folded. Villain (CO) raised to 50. Hero
shoved. Villain turned up his cards, 2h8h, and examined Hero for several
minutes and asked Hero if he wanted him to call. Hero w... 阅读全帖 |
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k********k
发帖数: 5617 | 22 有人看過警方發佈的閉路電視錄像，在遠離出事地點的布魯克林街上認出此女人，隨即
撥打911報警，警方趕到，逮捕了此女人。她說，自從9.11時間后，她非常仇恨穆斯林
和印度教徒。她毆打過貌似穆斯林和印度教徒者。這次，她認為此人貌似穆斯林，所以
推他下地鐵。
http://news.yahoo.com/woman-charged-murder-ny-subway-shove-deat
Woman charged with murder in NY subway shove death
By By COLLEEN LONG | Associated Press – 51 mins ago
NEW YORK (AP) — A woman who told police she shoved a man to his death off a
subway platform into the path of a train because she has hated Muslims
since Sept. 11 and thought he was one was charged Saturday ... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 23 The fact is that all the hand he push, he will call a shove regardless. BUT
he will not push all the hand that he will call a shove with. i hope you
see what I mean for your own good. Only time I will check is when I put
villian on a draw with no showdown value... or i see villian's hand as very
strong but I have the nuts and the pot is too deep to push with, like flush
card get there but i got the full house, so i check shove.
这这。。。不是绕口令又是什么。。。
不过说真的 我真是没明白
你说作为一个正常人（呵呵）所有他push或者commit的牌 基本上他... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 24 99 is just one example on the lower end.
to me, $30 here is to leave yourself some room to fold to his shove, but in
your plan, you'd call his shove no matter what (or unless he's extremely
tight), which i guess it's problematic:
1) few ppl would shove with QQ- here, against QQ/KK/AA/AK combined, you're
in very bad shape;
2) most ppl would call $17 with 99/TT/JJ/AQs here for 1:3 odds, out of
position on the flop, and his stack/pot size, what are you going to do?
or, this smallish 4-bet accomplis... 阅读全帖 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 25 my vpip is one of lowest in Eletro, but I kept got 3 bet by hands like AK,
AQ , even like QT. and when I shoved , they almost never fold AK. Maybe they
think my late pos range are quite wild.( I open any pair, 67s+, AT+, KJ+,
JTs+ in late pos) I got 4 bet quite often by AK or QQ. Only some reg use
these stat. Most player do not even have tracking software. If you play
Electro, you will find out most ppl play AK like AA. Folding KK just lost
too much equality. But I still play QQ like a drawin... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 26 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
fryking (赤道企鹅) 于 (Sun Nov 6 20:48:39 2011, 美东) 提到:
and o'dea down to a few BBs, sigh.
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superbobo (123) 于 (Sun Nov 6 20:49:09 2011, 美东) 提到:
等于Collins BB掉O'Dea，哈哈
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fryking (赤道企鹅) 于 (Sun Nov 6 20:50:24 2011, 美东) 提到:
still sick and sick.
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player (Hope is the best thing) 于 (Sun Nov 6 20:52:31 2011, 美东) 提到:
OD made a mista... 阅读全帖 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 27 Some tourney advice that I think helpful from Annette Obrestad.
1 'Try and build a stack early otherwise you're going to find yourself
having to shove all-in to survive, and you don't want to do that. It's
definitely worth taking some risks to achieve this. You might have to shove
all-in as a bluff sometimes or risk chips, but it's the best way to ensure a
deep run. Don't be afraid of going out early.'
2 'The more hands you play early on the more reads you'll be able to get,
and attacking lim... 阅读全帖 |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 28 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
player (Hope is the best thing) 于 (Mon Nov 21 15:26:29 2011, 美东) 提到:
5/10 NL. Very loose game and lots of action. A few guys sat down with 10+
K.
I played a super nitty game with shortstack(starting with 1k) at the table
and tried to not getting involved with many pots.
Then this hand came out: I was at SB with 1.8k, there were two limpers,
including button with very big stack. I looked my hand and I got KK. So I
made 100$ to go out of SB, B... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 29 River is a tough decision after check call turn. It is true. You really
need to have a good read to make the decision for check folding or check
calling river. If like you said "loose donk may choose to shove river with
most of his range", then our decision becomes easy--close you eyes and call.
There are a lot of factor needs to be considered at river, such as " does
he turn pocket 6s into a bluff by shoving river?", "does he 2 barrel bluff
complete air on turn and river?", "does bobo's ... 阅读全帖 |
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c*****t
发帖数: 817 | 30 In general, raise very tight since you have to fold to a shove.
Shove light because raiser has to fold to your shove often.
Fold small to medium pairs from early position, but open-shove with them
from late position. For example, if you have 20BBs and have TT at cutoff.
Open shove 20BB allin. You dont want to raise, get shoved, and have to call
and race against QJ.
Never play speculative hands unless you got > 5:1 pot odds.
Most important -- be patient! 20BB is a very, very healthy stack size on... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 31 呵呵，昨天打了一点1/2，还不错，就输了一把，QQ flopped top set，让毛驴伊朗医
生river给gutshot broadway suck out了，不过也扯平，之前俺AsQs，在QJxxA，搞死
了他的KK。
几把key hands：
1) Q6s，flopped trash top 2， check raise big against donk doctor, he calls,
turn 4 with a backdoor flush draw, i shove $150 he snap calls, river
completes flush, damn, but he holds Q4.
2) AA, UTG, small bet $10, doctor raises to $20, 2 callers, i decide to play
tricky once, flat call.
flop J83 rainbow, i check, doctor bets $40, all fold to me, i donk shove $
300... counti... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 32 any body help?
EV --- hero's last shoving EV
x --- villain's fold equity
P --- pot before hero last shove
L --- villain's equity after shoving
W --- hero's quity after shoving, L+W = 1
H --- total pot after villain calls hero's shove
V --- hero's shove size
EV = xP + (1-x)(-LV + WH) --- this one has issue
I think, it should be
EV = xP + (1-x)(WH - V)
correct me if I am wrong. |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 33 这是一个开放的话题
打多了的朋友一定会遇到
持续时间长的比如一段时间的上风期和下风期
持续时间短的比如一个session或者一场比赛中的play a rush或者怎么打怎么输
上周就遇到一妹子，loose passive的风格，一晚上一直击中，基本上一直是前两条街
跟着，river突然的lead out或者raise。因为比较熟，哥就跟她开玩笑，并且帮她记着
击中Monster的次数，6小时左右的session，结束时literally击中三十多次！
同样的，哥也小吐槽一下自己的经历，也是上周一个session，碰到unknown大叔，哥先
是庄位用77 4bb steal 大叔straddle，然后被大叔反shove 35bb，接，输给了ATo。然
后又对上这位大叔，
hero 110bb stack at sb with AJo
UTG open 7.5bb，EP 大叔（cover hero） flat call，1 more caller，hero raise
to 30bb，all fold except 大叔
flop T73r，hero cbet 45bb，大叔shove
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 34 这是一个开放的话题
打多了的朋友一定会遇到
持续时间长的比如一段时间的上风期和下风期
持续时间短的比如一个session或者一场比赛中的play a rush或者怎么打怎么输
上周就遇到一妹子，loose passive的风格，一晚上一直击中，基本上一直是前两条街
跟着，river突然的lead out或者raise。因为比较熟，哥就跟她开玩笑，并且帮她记着
击中Monster的次数，6小时左右的session，结束时literally击中三十多次！
同样的，哥也小吐槽一下自己的经历，也是上周一个session，碰到unknown大叔，哥先
是庄位用77 4bb steal 大叔straddle，然后被大叔反shove 35bb，接，输给了ATo。然
后又对上这位大叔，
hero 110bb stack at sb with AJo
UTG open 7.5bb，EP 大叔（cover hero） flat call，1 more caller，hero raise
to 30bb，all fold except 大叔
flop T73r，hero cbet 45bb，大叔shove
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k********k
发帖数: 5617 | 35 http://news.yahoo.com/man-pushed-death-front-nyc-subway-train-0
Man pushed to death in front of NYC subway train
By By COLLEEN LONG | Associated Press – 5 mins ago
NEW YORK (AP) — A mumbling woman pushed a man to his death in front of a
subway train on Thursday night, the second time this month someone has been
killed in such nightmarish fashion, police said.
The man was standing on the elevated platform of a 7 train in Queens at
about 8 p.m. when he was shoved by the woman, who witnesses said h... 阅读全帖 |
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a****n
发帖数: 1528 | 36 Yo 6 o'clock every morning you waking up yawning
To the sound of your alarm clock alarming
About an hour from now
You should be at the place of employment
Which is annoying cause it's so boring
Your co-workers are talking too loud for you to ignore them
It affects your occupational performance
You wonder why your workload is so enormous
Because your boss just laid off three quarters of the whole office
People get depressed, they get ulcers
From the stress that the corporate environment causes
Re... 阅读全帖 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 37 I do not know how many M I have. But I guess a lot, since only 2 ppl left,
we have all the chips, and the tourney is not a turbo one.
That game is crazy, I have 2:1 chip leader in the beginning. When I limp
the button, that guy shoves. When I raise the button, that guy shoves. When
I am in the blinds, he shoves. Every time, it is a 30-40BB shove, I just can
not call.
Finally I get unpatient, and limp with K7 suited, he shoves, I call, and
lose the game.
I do not know SAGE. What is that?
conclu |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 38 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 问两手牌 hand 1 prob bet after flop with bottom pair 还不如shove preflop. 我觉得既然
limp了, 就check fold 算了..
hand 2 shove or fold,, i like shove. it is better to shove first than 2.5X
and get shoved over. Whoever all in first wins always at this type of spot. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 39 One more interesting hand.
Ep raise 3X farily tight with vpip of 12 8. I am at sb with AdAc. effective
stack is 100. i 3 bet to 11X . pot is 22$
flop is KsQsJd,
i c bet to 14$, EP calls. pot is 50
turn is a 5c
I check, Ep bets 28 $. I call. pot is 106. we both have 47$ left.
River is a Js.
I lead all in. he fold.
Sort of a strange hand. my play was not very consistent. turn is probably a
check shove, but I opt to call and reevaluate. River is a great card for me
. I did't think he was on... 阅读全帖 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 40 I will start mine:
I am not sure how many hands I played since most my game are
HUSNG and I lost my HH during to computer crash.
One of the best hand I played this year is to shove 3 pair on
the board in position for value.
I played with a very loose player. I raised every button, he
got tilted and started to shove most of my raise. I have to fold most of
them. so I started to limp some playable hand on button in order to see flop
and play in position. We p... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 41 这个级别 好像（我是说好像）数据正常的牌手基本上river check/raise bluff的比率
非常低。可是这手牌我的感觉，我会call river shove。
原因
1 12% 3bet pf ＝＝ 3bet light,再加上小盲，增加了最后bluff的比例
2 his story was not consistent
我个人感觉，面对一般的对手in HU situation，你的应对不是让我那么舒服。
下面的个人分析，纯建立在对一般的玩家，并且各自100bb stack的前提上
pf call 3bet in position，没问题，虽然好像aj很容易被dominated的说，但这哥们
儿太light，所以没问题。
flop上是否bet一下来test对手手牌强度来得更合适？
我感觉check behind with fairly strong hand，实际上就决定了增加risk/reward
rate，同样没问题，但是这里自动放弃了一次探测对手信息的机会。
turn上hit strong 2 pairs，然后你的call实际上是又放弃了一次test对手的机会，所
以我... 阅读全帖 |
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d******u
发帖数: 142 | 42 4月29日晚 4月30日白天 4月30日晚 5月1日白天 5月1日晚 合计
xumonkey -3000 -500 6000 3000 1500 7000
sparkxy 1800 -4600 -1400 6000 -5000 -3200
swapper -2000 -5000 6000 1000 7000 7000
verimper 1200 7000 2000 1500 2400 14100
dudu -2000 1300 200 null null -500
hikki -5000 null -2500 -... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 43 这个完全和对手有关. 对手水平越高, 一般水平高体现在, bluff more facing
weakness, value bet thinner, can lay down big hands facing strength. 这种对手check call 可能更有优势, 平时我们见到的鱼都是又松又软(其实有些weak reg 也是), calling shove range is wider than shove range (big leak), 当然主动shove好. 毕竟一般Isildur不会坐在我们对面.
Galfond 的key read to make his decision here
1) Isildur bluffs 50% with busted draw here.
2) Isildur is capable of laying down small flush here if shoved to, but would shove small flush for value if checked to (真高手啊)
Not many people can d... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 44 FT, shhhhh, could you just keep your voice lower???
1) hand 1:
black 99 at LP, 3 limpers, i raise to $11, all call + BB.
flop: Qs8dTc, very shitty one for my holding in 5-way, even with position.
all check to me, i don't think i can take it down here with a c-bet, so i
check.
turn: 9d
it hits me but also a ton of other hands, all still check to me, i still
check.
river: Td
BB (a short stack) leads out $35 (with ~$20 left), tight ABC lady calls, i
shove $170. BB snap calls, lady tables KJo or tur... 阅读全帖 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 45 Shove , shove aaaaaaaaaaaaaand, shove. hehe.
shove or call for me. Prefer just call here. Fold is not an option here,
obv. Raising on the turn will pretty much keep better hand in/shove and
worse hand to fold, plus it takes all his bluff/thin value bet range away.
Maybe min raise works well against absolute fish. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 46 Thought process:
if raise turn
if villian has AQ or better, what will he do?
if villian has AK or worse, what will he do?
if call turn
if flush card comes (<20% chance)
if villian has AQ or better, what will he do?
if villian has AK or worse, what will he do?
if call turn
if flush card does not comes
if villian has AQ or better, what will he do?
if villian has AK or worse, what will he do?
assume villian is decent tight player, I thin... 阅读全帖 |
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p**********1
发帖数: 1458 | 47 the famous Sklansky-Chubukov hand ranking was derived from the SB vs BB
battle, namely headsup. here is the original question sklansky asked and the
answer from chubukov.
Their hand ranking is quite different from pokerstove hand ranking, which is
derived from "ordering the hands according to their preflop all-in equity
versus three random hands". Basically pokerstove hand ranking is kinda "
multi-way" instead of headsup.
there are some other hand rankings such as, shoving hand rankings, calling... 阅读全帖 |
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c*****t
发帖数: 817 | 48 我直觉上同意有56%的equity的话就可以call。但是我觉得除非有很多数据让你知道
button是个疯子。不然button的3-bet很难有16%。即使他的range是所有的pair, AJ+,
KQ+加在一起那也只是11%。所以AQ看起来很好。但是很难有那么多equity。
这牌的正确打法很显然CO应该open shove。
他秒call你的shove肯定是错的。至少应该想想算算。但是打的差的玩家都是这个特点-
-又松又软。你让他拿着77或者AQ 在CO open shove 17bb.这个勇气他没有。他只敢
raise。但是被人shove on top了。他又绝不fold。你既然在没人open的时候都不敢
commit。那么被人raise了自然应该fold。除非你的min raise是induce shove（显然又
不是）。不知道脑子怎么想的。
我敢说这里他拿着AJ也一定秒call。因为烂人都把AJ当AA用的。
就是因为有这么多松软的玩家。所以我拿着大筹码不愿意打的很猛。宁愿看着他们自己
相互搞。 |
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m****9
发帖数: 492 | 49 高手高手，我的想法：
Preflop: Check shove with KK in SB的例子能看出Calling range比较强。看check
shove说明post-flop打的还是挺猛的，恐怕不愿意fold大牌，这种对手我觉得bet for
value比较合适。从这单个例子我倒是没看出passive，我看到的是slow play with
monster。
Flop上，这么wet的flop bet $40 out of $100可以是bet for information，也可以是
hold a monster and beg for a raise。Bet for information的可能比较大，如果是
set/straight按照他的风格应该是check-shove的路线。
Turn上的check确实看出passive了，并且show了weakness。Call $95 bet out of $180
也看得出他已经有打算用手上的牌call down了。Bet $95 to repre a flush is a
great move，学习了。
在已经show了weak... 阅读全帖 |
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s*****s
发帖数: 1130 | 50 版主MM说的很有道理,我当时是这么想的
Flop, 我觉得他不太可能是A6或者77之类的牌,应该是1)强对; 2)强draw; 3)bluff. 如
果我raise back shove,他bluff的牌肯定都fold了,如果是强对他会call的,我是大大的
-EV的,如果是强draw,他应该也还是call的,应该是coin flip吧. 所以我觉得shove既不
是value 也不是bluff. 如果只是call,即使对上强对,我也有9个outs,肯定是不会错的.
不好的地方是给了bluff或者draw的情况一张free card,而且我是out of position.
Turn, 我也考虑了一下要不要check shove, 强对会call, bluff会fold, 对方如果是
combo draw,他应该还是会call,turn shove比flop shove更有value. 我最后决定还是
call是因为我也是represent a polarized range, either having a strong draw or
a strong made hand. 如果对... 阅读全帖 |
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