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w****1
发帖数: 4931
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来自主题: Running版 - 跑水泥路的問題
Seriously dude, it seems to me that most people on this board know more
about running than you do, and it would be a waste of time for me to
refute every single one of your points. I was being uncharacteristically
patient trying to answer your posts but my patience is running out. I
suggest you learn and try some different things before trying to
instruct (and mislead) others.

三分
乐观。
是需要人
跑步落地太
重,但子非老印,安知那老印之乐?也许他也看了大量的网上资料,对自己动作做了努
力的改进。公
园里那么多跑步千姿百态的人,不一个个都很自信么——通过自己的视角,很难纠正自
己的动作。
w****1
发帖数: 4931
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来自主题: Running版 - 申明(相关评论就此打住了)
I think my comments are pretty mild by the internet forum standard. I
was actually being nice trying to reply to bearSQ's posts some times.
Now when a person is terribly insecure and could not take a fair
criticism, that pisses me off. See if I really wanted to start an
argument, I would refute his points. But I really don't bother with it
any more.

,可
covers
R*****s
发帖数: 41236
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不小心看到这么一篇, 貌似Vibram要翻身:
http://runblogger.com/2013/12/do-minimalist-shoes-increase-inju
Contrary to what you may read in the coming days about a new study that just
came out, Vibram just got the best Christmas present they could have
received.
The question of whether minimalist running shoes reduce or increase injury
risk has been debated extensively over the past 3-4 years. Much of this
debate has been based largely on anecdotal reports from runners and
therapists: many runners have reported re... 阅读全帖
s*****2
发帖数: 472
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来自主题: Ski版 - whistler的冬奥会咋举办啊
fortunately you are here to refute the rumor and stand behind altabird, haha.
Q*****n
发帖数: 4546
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来自主题: Soccer版 - 小白要被停赛?
这还是干爹吗?
Andres Iniesta should find out on Wednesday if he is to be punished by UEFA
for allegedly getting deliberately booked during his side's recent Champions
League clash against Shakhtar Donetsk.
The Barcelona midfielder is in danger of missing next week's Champions
League first leg semi-final showdown against Real Madrid at the Bernabeu if
the ban sticks.
Officials at the match alleged Iniesta provoked the card so he could serve
the standard one-match ban in the second leg and would have a ... 阅读全帖
h****8
发帖数: 599
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来自主题: Weightlifting版 - zz The Box Squat for Bodybuilders
The Box Squat for Bodybuilders
by Nate Green
Christian Thibaudeau doesn't believe I'll try it. He's testing me.
"You have to do it tomorrow and let me know how it goes," he says in his
thick French Canadian accent. "You're the journalist. You're supposed to
experience what you write about." Then he laughs.
I think momentarily about refuting this claim and reminding him that
journalists typically don't try shit, but I think better of it and agree to
try out his new leg protocol, which includes a
b*********s
发帖数: 5382
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来自主题: Fashion版 - [合集] 奔~~~~~~~~~~~~
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blueandabl (blue mountain) 于 (Wed Nov 10 14:01:11 2010, 美东) 提到:
我30岁了又来奔。。。。。哎。。
上次奔个侧脸,这次来正脸
上次奔有人说像杨恭如,这次又有人说像康华。。。
反正。。我没有羞耻心咯。。。板砖都来吧。。。
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linger0223 (bluesky) 于 (Wed Nov 10 14:03:25 2010, 美东) 提到:
沙发。。
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kochan51 (Aoi) 于 (Wed Nov 10 14:03:43 2010, 美东) 提到:
美女的地板!!
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linger0223 (bluesky) 于 (Wed Nov 10 14:03:45 2010, 美东) 提到... 阅读全帖
b*********s
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dexter22 (dexter22) 于 (Tue Jan 4 13:13:12 2011, 美东) 提到:
先试试能不能贴上图
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dexter22 (dexter22) 于 (Tue Jan 4 13:22:01 2011, 美东) 提到:
粉底的正宫永远是CPB,用过CPB后,啥粉底都素浮云
春夏秋是光润,秋冬偏干的时候就上亮润
光润基本上是最接近完美状态的粉底,老版其实更好,清透,遮瑕,关键是持妆持久,
越出油越自然。老记得08年除夕第一次用光润,刚上脸时没觉得有什么特别还以为被骗
了。出去吃完年夜饭拍全家福时,整张脸上光彩照人啊....
新版的旋转光润稍差一点点,但就是稍差一点还是可以傲视其他任何品牌的粉底。CPB
是也是我用过的唯一不会暗沉的粉底。
现在亮润用得比较多,秋冬它比光润要保湿。其实用它来搭配CPB的隔离更好,润白持
久绝对不会脱妆,越用皮肤状态越好,但CPB的隔离极白而且偏干,要求在... 阅读全帖
v*******o
发帖数: 3052
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来自主题: Fashion版 - fashion tips for ladies from men...
this does make some sense but not enough to refute my point, we know as
a fact that gay men like to join the navy which is a straight male
dominant environment
my point is you may know about seduction and how to attract straight
guys, but gay guys and women know better about fashion

you:
working
place.
straight, male
enjoy
men.
original
b*s
发帖数: 82482
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来自主题: LeisureTime版 - 对于名著的评价
http://www.themorningnews.org/article/lone-star-statements
Reviews Oct 21, 2005
Lone Star Statements
by Matthew Baldwin
The praise of professional critics hardly matters to the book-reviewing
readers at Amazon.com. A compilation of the best of the worst… about the
best.
The following are excerpts from actual one-star Amazon.com reviews of books
from Time’s list of the 100 best novels from 1923 to the present. Some
entries have been edited.
Beloved by Toni Morrison (1987)
“Morrison’s obviously a ... 阅读全帖
b*s
发帖数: 82482
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这个无法证实的,就是那个女的说的经验,反正你也没有濒死过,而且,就算是你濒死
过,也没有跟她一样濒死过……
反正就是那个女人说了,不知道你信不信,反正她是信了……
这个可以跟alien abduction经历一样了,反正信的人也很多。当年的飞碟传说比这个
还凶……
看维基上面一段:
Researcher Lakhmir Chawla at George Washington University medical centre in
Washington D.C. argues that near-death experiences are caused by a surge of
electrical activity as the brain runs out of oxygen before death. Levels
were similar to those seen in fully conscious people, even though blood
pressure was so low as to be undetectable, and could generate... 阅读全帖
m**********e
发帖数: 2808
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我觉得气质(给人的感觉)和品味有相关,但不是一定的,而且尤其不能以一方来否定
(in the sense of refuting)/肯定(in the sense of corroborating)另一方。
我指的就是很品味(taste)很本源的意义:比别人早发现潜在美及创造美的能力。在窄
一点,就是发现和创造比较sophisticated的美。
我觉得这个能力要天资,也要训练(不是练琴练字之类的,而是接触很多,包括接触相
应的概念)。
a*******a
发帖数: 451
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对一些big questions的解读,有兴趣的推荐读完,可以开启心智!
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The nature of dark matter and dark energy in the cosmos
Science is based on a very strict process - of taking existing well-tested
theories and then observing something. This something observed is not
understood so hypothesis (or educated guesses) are made as to what drives
that phenomena. Where the inspiration comes to come up with a hypothesis,
that's interesting and bounds on the spiritual, but from there the process... 阅读全帖
a*******u
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嗐!轩哥,那不就是叫做Vibrato嘛。
就抖啊,就震啊,就一个词根啊。
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vibrato
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%A1%AB%E9%9F%B3_(%E9%9F%B3%E6%A
颤音 (音乐)
维基百科,自由的百科全书
颤音是一种乐器技巧。
Vibrato
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Vibrato is a musical effect consisting of a regular, pulsating change of
pitch. It is used to add expression to vocal and instrumental music. Vibrato
is typically characterised in terms of two factors: the amount of pitch
variation ("extent of vibrato") and the speed with which the p... 阅读全帖
x*******t
发帖数: 340
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haha... u like me so much that u wouldn't let go of me. u came up with
another assumption so i can show up to refute it. i've had enough of them
since the very beginning and that's why people hate me. because all of
their assumptions were wrong. ur so cute. (*^__^*) too bad nobody is
interested in your topic and people are so tired of seeing me around...if
i say one more word in english, u might say that i like to play
"zhuangbility". 88
删帖算了吧?
S*******C
发帖数: 7325
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来自主题: WaterWorld版 - 台湾人的真实想法
you can refute it.
b***j
发帖数: 255
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来自主题: WaterWorld版 - 男子对着高压线撒尿 遭电击毙命
美国有类似事件,也是挂掉一个
"The Mythbusters tested the myth that you could be electrocuted by peeing on
the 3rd rail. The myth was 'busted' as the stream would be broken up due to
distance and there wouldn't be a continuous path for the electrical current
to follow. This seems to be refuted by a Monsanto, Washington man that was
found electrocuted after urinating into a ditch that had a downed power line
."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35650429/ns/us_news-life/
c****e
发帖数: 1567
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你说了一堆都不到点子上,并没有refute my point, 所以我还是把原来的回复再贴一
遍了事
本来懒得多说,你竟然还给我站内信理论,而且来了两次,那我就再多说几句
楼主生活到底是怎样的这里谁也不清楚,我的理解是既然她要生孩子,那就应该把这个
当做第一要紧
的事情,不管是辞职还是做一份轻松的工作,只要能让自己和家人幸福就很好
就算是追求事业成功也不是光看战时收入,我认识很漂亮的选过州选美小姐的top law
school白人女律
师一直要去public service,人家就是believe in这个,楼主可能也是在nonprofit,那
尽管
她收入少但自己喜欢有意义又可以有时间照顾家庭,老公也愿意这样,那有什么丢人的
?我个人认为
这种家庭模式比那些为了挣钱为了身份不惜长期两地分居的要人性化和幸福得多,当然
人家可能觉得
分开比在一起更幸福,呵呵
楼主水平怎样谁也不知道,但人家可以孩子大一点再出去工作或者换工作或者升职,反
正我是不会笑
话人家拿了mba还挣着麽少,拿了mba,phd和J.D.当全职太太的多了去了,你看来是会笑
话邓文迪
yale mba水平太差的人
而且我看
d********0
发帖数: 5142
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来自主题: WaterWorld版 - [合集] 千万别碰农村凤凰女
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buruguiqu (buruguiqu) 于 (Sun Mar 27 21:44:18 2011, 美东) 提到:
回北京的时候认识了个大二女生,还挺漂亮的,一来二去就熟了,后来上了也挺自然的
。没想到是个没经验的,这倒有点意外,心想国内也没这么乱。也自然对她好了起来,
经常带去些高档场所。
本来想大家好聚好散,可大概这妞是知道我有车有房,还是有北京户口怎么的,居然开
始死缠着我了,每天短信电话个不停。一开始我还耐心劝劝她,我们只不过是朋友,后
来实在是太烦了,约出来见面说清楚。这才知道她家农村的,全家就她一个大学生
blahblah。我当时说那给你些钱做补偿好了。不要,非要缠着要结婚。我怕了,这种疯
子乱来可没底线的。幸亏还没完全海归,马上把手机停了。假期一到回美国彻底消失。
这经历也忒吓人了。以后大家回国玩千万要问清楚,如果是京妞那就没问题,北京女的
玩得起放得下,知道分寸。农村凤凰女实在太可怕了。
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m********l
发帖数: 4394
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let's not discuss how much whore chai ling is.
My question is: why are people still paying attention to her?
Remember, Chai Ling is a known liar; she told the world that people were
killed on the square and blood was everywhere while everyone else refuted
that.

by
all
led
t******n
发帖数: 2939
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castroite (castro) 于 (Sun Jul 24 21:19:14 2011, 美东) 提到:
达芬奇坑了富人,国内媒体曝光后,草根阶级一片欢呼
无论是网易,凤凰,还是天涯,都是大声叫好,说达芬奇坑得好
从这点上,已经体现了国人的道德水准,体现了中国的毫无希望。
很多富人确实不干净,所以穷人和富人之间有芥蒂
但是穷人如果心里不满,就该去表达,甚至该牺牲一定自己的利益,承担一定成本。
富人欺负你,你可以去上访,当地警察拦你,你可以为了社会秩序和恶势力作斗争啊!
你这是支持国家的法律建设啊!被当地恶势力关十年又如何呢?每个人都这样,恶势力
敢冒头吗?
被富人欺负了毫无血性,平日里见到富人一个个点头哈腰的,背地里仇恨,耍阴的,社
会秩序能不崩溃吗?能不吃瘦肉精毒奶粉地沟油吗?互相刷阴招互相害人,绑死在一起
什么都做不好,又不能忍受收入下降,能不通货膨胀房价上涨吗?
每个人都这样,每个人都说别人都这样,每个人都摇头说我没办法因为别人都这样。
其实这些人都是在骗人,每个人都争先恐后地比别人做... 阅读全帖
t******n
发帖数: 2939
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fakjones (fakjones) 于 (Sun Mar 11 13:12:14 2012, 美东) 提到:
http://v.qq.com/boke/play/9v3dXAMW5wp.html
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longway2008 (longway2008) 于 (Sun Mar 11 14:06:52 2012, 美东) 提到:
罗永浩还建议韩寒去北大讲堂跟方舟子质疑。想害死韩寒啊。

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pandongzi (潘冬子) 于 (Sun Mar 11 14:16:27 2012, 美东) 提到:
老罗口才还是真的不错
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xfbhs (画扇) 于 (Sun Mar 11 14:16:57 2012, 美东) 提到:
要不怎么叫猪一样的队友?净在帮倒... 阅读全帖
m**c
发帖数: 7299
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来自主题: WaterWorld版 - GAY针对儿童的性犯罪如此之高!!!
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h*********n
发帖数: 11319
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来自主题: WaterWorld版 - TM錯就錯在沒有槍,沒有先拔槍
“--Reasonably believe that your life and safety is in danger as a result of
an overt act or perceived threat committed by someone else toward you.”
左棍的一大特点就是自以为站在岛的制高点就可以随心所欲,只能他assert,不能别人
refute
prosecutor花了一年多都不能reasonably doubt Zimmerman有生命危险
各种压倒性的证据指明,小黑自始至终都是攻击方,小黑要走人随时可以离开,小黑
身上没有任何伤口
如果小黑杀了Zimmerman,那么至少也是一个manslaughter,然后关进少管所,5年以后
放出来变成真正的罪犯。
t****z
发帖数: 8931
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【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: tgbqaz (qz), 信区: Military
标 题: CBS big brother主持朱莉陈讲她为什么开刀去掉亚洲眼
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Sep 16 21:41:59 2013, 美东)
华人在美国悲惨生活
This week, Sharon Osbourne revealed her long-ago fling with Jay Leno, Aisha
Tyler opened up about her infertility struggle and Sara Gilbert said she
realized she was gay while dating her Roseanne costar Johnny Galecki.
On Wednesday's show, Julie Chen, 43, said that racist remarks from a former
news director led her to undergo plastic surgery to ma... 阅读全帖
s**i
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Gosh, this "fact" is in a neutral tone that means the point she was trying
to refute.
It has nothing to do with my knowing the truthfulness of it or not.
c*****i
发帖数: 515
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haha, don't get angry, face the fact, or you can try to refute my viewpoint

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(方舟子按:近年来国外医学期刊多次发表国外临床试验结果否定了肖氏手术的有效性
。霍普金斯儿童医院最近在美国《神经外科杂志:儿科》发表几年前对肖氏手术做随机
双盲对照试验的结果,结论还是:毫无效果,不可用于临床,在做进一步的基础研究和
动物实验之前,不应再对肖氏手术做临床试验。这是最新的也是最严格(首次使用对照
)的一项研究结果,称得上是肖氏手术的最后一颗棺材钉。《神经外科杂志:儿科》同
时发表社论揭露肖传国的底细,以下是该社论的翻译,原题《社论:一个负面研究的正
面意义》)
http://fangzhouzi.baijia.baidu.com/article/435841
http://thejns.org/doi/pdf/10.3171/2015.10.PEDS15271
作者:Andrew Jea, MD
贝勒医学院神经外科系、得克萨斯儿童医院儿科神经外科部
2016年5月3日
佛罗里达州圣彼得堡的约翰森·霍普金斯儿童医院Gerald Tuite博士及其同事提交了一
项重要的研究结果,证明有争议的肖氏手术——为改善膀胱功能做体神经-自主神经转
移——对治疗脊髓脊膜突出或脂性脊髓脊膜... 阅读全帖
g***e
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来自主题: WebRadio版 - 最近大家都在看什么书
The present age (加上后篇The Difference Between a Genius and an Apostle) 因
为放在床头,几个晚上睡前读物扫了下:后篇不评价,前篇The present age --- 虽然
不是 Kierkegaard通常令我喜爱的风格(不可思议的啰嗦)---估计如果不是纸的床头
书,我不会看完。但既然匆匆拜别,掩不住牵挂应会再见。
再加几个在读的和一些枉评
The complete stories (F Kafka) --- 拜服
The fall (A Camus) --- 对作者印象不高,这本小书目前也觉平庸
Major works (L Wittgenstein) --- 目前blue book,传说中『表示一生愉悦』的牛人
作品。第一次读,确实不错
Conjectures and Refutations (K Popper) --- 确实不错
D*****r
发帖数: 6791
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来自主题: Joke版 - Planet without laughter
I. The Modern Period
Once upon a time there was a universe. In this universe there was a planet.
On this planet there was virtually no laughter. Nothing like ``humor'' was
really known. People never laughed, nor jested, nor kidded, nor joked, nor
anything like that. The inhabitants were extremely serious, conscientious,
sincere, hard-working, studious, well wishing, and moral. But of humor they
knew nothing. All except for a small minority who had some feeling for what
humor was. These people oc... 阅读全帖
a***e
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神仙

★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 13
n****4
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d********f
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这个只能是comey自己了吧
m*********x
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来自主题: Love版 - 爱情和学历有关么?
the burden of proof does not fall on me. i can refute a claim like that with
merely an example.
he/she who brought up this idea needs to strengthen the argument with more
evidence, or polish the rethoric. not me. mine is valid and strong.
m*********x
发帖数: 400
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来自主题: Love版 - 爱情和学历有关么?
anecdotal evident is insufficient to prove an argument, which i didn't
intend to do by citing those two examples, but it can refute hasty
generalization, which is exactly the case here.
b****z
发帖数: 4485
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来自主题: Piebridge版 - Asian Women Taking GMAT On the Rise
怪不得剩女多了
"Refuting stereotypes of docility, today’s Chinese professional women say
they are even more ambitious at work than their American counterparts.
Seventy-six percent of Chinese women surveyed in 2011 by the New York-based
Center for Talent Innovation said they “aspire to top jobs,” vs. 52
percent of Americans. Chinese women employed by multinational companies
frequently work more than 70 hours a week."
c**l
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Already refute your three Creationist's famous lies, now I get extra time for
your following five point (lies).
You five points are also famous misleading, ignorant, sloppiness, or just lie,
or both. I am quite amazed to find you bring up so much famous stuffs.


Original Lie:
The atmospheric C-14 is presently only 1/3 of the way to an equilibrium value
which will be reached in 30,000 years. This nullifies the carbon-14 method as
well as demonstrating that the earth is less than 10,000 years o
s*****n
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来自主题: Belief版 - What's the definition of inerrancy?
It was a good talk with you, but I shall leave the bible studying
to you. Once you can effectively refute the points I raised
in these posts, I am willing to be converted by you. Presumably,
by then, you will be such a holy person that you won't mind doing
that.
l*****a
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THE INSTRUCTION OF AMENEMOPE
 
Introduction
The beginning of the instruction about life,
The guide for well-being,
All the principles of official procedure,
The duties of the courtiers;
To know how to refute the accusation of one who made it,
And to send back a reply to the one who wrote,
To set one straight on the paths of life,
And make him prosper on earth;
To let his heart settle down in its chapel,
As one who steers him clear of evil;
To save him from the talk of others,... 阅读全帖
G******e
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你以为跟着一本解经书抄就会解经了?你保证那解经书就是对的?看看下面这几个:
(1)Clarke's Commentary on the Bible
Was the Gospel preached also to them that are dead - This is a most
difficult verse; the best translations I have seen of it are the following: -
"For this indeed was the effect of the preaching of the Gospel to the dead,
(the unconverted Gentiles), that some will be punished as carnal men; but
others, (those converted to Christianity), lead a spiritual life unto God."
- Wakefield.
"For this purpose hath the Gospel been pr... 阅读全帖
D*****r
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来自主题: Belief版 - 《耶稣福音》摘选 1
【 以下文字转载自 TrustInJesus 讨论区 】
发信人: Dramaer (假如钟声响了), 信区: TrustInJesus
标 题: 《耶稣福音》摘选 1
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Oct 15 12:33:43 2011, 美东)
第一部分 今日的福音:好消息还是坏消息?
1. 耶稣说“跟着我”,到底是什么意思?
耶稣是主(林前12:3)
这是基督教里最核心、基本、独特的一句。也是每一个真正的基督徒必须做的第一
个最基本的承认:“如果你口里承认耶稣是主,心里相信神使他死里复活,你就得救了
”(罗10:9)。要说某个人可能是真正的基督徒,但是整个的生活方式、价值观、言谈
、态度都明显有着倔强的拒绝向“耶稣是主”这个观念投降的特征,这说法甚至不需要
被反驳。这个想法你在基督教教义和实践里从来也找不到,从早期教会神父到宗教改革
以及后来至少三个半世纪以来一直是这样。现在常见的不强调耶稣主权的福音派教义体
现了当代福音运动的浅薄和精神上的贫乏。这也无疑是福音运动困乏的重要原因之一。
你没法从福音里去掉耶稣的主权而不在根本上削弱信仰。这也正是今日教... 阅读全帖
n********n
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The existence of God using logical absolutes
This is an attempt to demonstrate the existence of God using logical
absolutes. The oversimplified argument, which is expanded in outline form
below, goes as follows: Logical absolutes exist. Logical absolutes are
conceptual by nature--are not dependent on space, time, physical properties,
or human nature. They are not the product of the physical universe (space,
time, matter) because if the physical universe were to disappear, logical
absolutes w... 阅读全帖
b******o
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来自主题: Reader版 - 读卡尔波普《猜想与反驳》
很多年前看的,科学证伪成了我的科学观。

前段时间抽空阅读了Karl Popper的名作conjectures and refutations,英文版参照着
上海译文1987年《猜想与反驳》的中文版阅读,做了一些笔记。P........
p***y
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来自主题: SciFiction版 - kwo Re: 刘宣扬的就是机械唯心主义
times in the past.
This question is the base of modern Philosophy of Science. Karl Popper is the
first who gave a rational answer to this questions which did influenced a
generation of scientists. His answer is in his famous book "Conjecturesand
Refutations".
The answer using probabilty is well studied by the Vienna School of philopophy
in the 1930's, which contains the most brilliant thinkers and mathematicians
at the time, but they failed to provide a convincing rational solution.
About 机械唯心主义
p***y
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Popper's theory can easily answer the matrix question:
The idea of matrix may not be refutable and it is not a science. You can call
it a religion if you want.
Since it is based on belief, a science pratictioner does not need to study it
at all. It is no more different than FLG.

having
evolve
C***r
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来自主题: Thoughts版 - book 5: 5-9
CHAP. 5 .--IN WHAT MANNER THE MATHEMATICIANS ARE CONVICTED
OF PROFESSING A VAIN
SCIENCE.
Do not those very persons whom the medical sagacity of
Hippocrates led him to suspect to be twins, because their
disease was observed by
him to develop to its crisis and to subside again in the
same time in each of them,--do not these, I say, serve as a
sufficient refutation of those
who wish to attribute to the influence of the stars that
which was owing to a similarity of bodily constitution ? For
wherefor
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