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A******y
发帖数: 2041 | 2 PO should at least answer his/her email. If not, you should call him/her.
However, it is likely your grant is not in the funding range at all. I mean
that you don't call PO out of blue and think you got a shot at 30%tile. |
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y**i
发帖数: 377 | 3 It is in the funding range in the past year, although it is at the tail-end,
in the "grey zone"。是不是今年就更差了。it is NIMH.
mean |
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A******y
发帖数: 2041 | 4 What's your era common status? If should be in council already, if it is
not, you have to resubmit. Remember not to bother PO that much, if you
already go some news, PO will never tell you that you are funded or not.
end, |
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y**i
发帖数: 377 | 5 谢谢！Council meeting 结束了，也交了Just-in-time。但现在Just-in-time似乎不代
表就能拿到钱了。
去年10月审的课题，你的意思要等到今年4月才能知道funding吗？ |
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F*********m
发帖数: 123 | 7 比如说如果新的AP在博后期间拿过NIH training grant （包括K01或者K99），在成为
独立AP之后，申请RO1时候是否还能够享受优惠打分松一点以及payline高一点的优惠政
策？ |
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A******y
发帖数: 2041 | 9 Yes, it is a big negative. However, it is not impossible. I know someone
who has 3 R01, 1 DOD, and a big NSF (budget over one million)....NIH did
stop give him money though even with several other grants reviewed under
payline. |
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P******3
发帖数: 244 | 11 看了看不同的IC，有payline是25的，也有20的。 |
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j*****2
发帖数: 160 | 12 Go to a forum title NIH Paylines & Resources
You may find updated info |
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h****u
发帖数: 618 | 13 请问政府关门的时候应该review的proposal会和11月交的proposal一起在2月review吗
？ 如果是这样， payline 会变化吗?多谢！ |
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n*****t
发帖数: 279 | 14 k01刚开始，前面投的R03也在 border of payline. 还可能给吗？ R03是co-pi (
multiple PI model). THANKS |
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h*****w
发帖数: 8561 | 15 多谢分享了,summary statement看PO的方式,快的一个星期,一般是3个星期. |
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g*********1
发帖数: 459 | 16 去年payline是20,不知今年这个分数有把握吗.是A0, 而且没有resubmit的机会. |
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s******y
发帖数: 28562 | 18 success rate 把second submission考虑进去了,只要一个申请拿到钱了，即使花了两
次时间，那么也是100%。所以综合起来算，在递交的人中，最终有13.7%拿到了钱。
payline则针对某次周期所有的申请，不管是不是second submission，反正那么多本交
上来的申请中只有9%能给钱。
我对NCI不熟，所以不知道他们公布了没有。
别膜拜我。你的分数可比我好多了。我是混NIGMS的，我的分数如果直接拿到NCI去都不
一定能拿到钱。呵呵。
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l***s
发帖数: 841 | 19 刚看这消息时还以为是愚人节的笑话，结果居然是真的。。。明年的payline要奔3%去
了。grant申请变成了完全随机游戏。 |
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j*****2
发帖数: 160 | 21 Wow, holy cow!
Will submit a R01 A1 this July. Not sure this would affect my chance. NHLBI
has payline for ESI at 21% from 2012-2014. |
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l********s
发帖数: 395 | 22 Last week, I contacted the PO about the borderline U01 score. I asked if
they would consider co-funding, since that I am a Project Leader of a COBRE
that is going to get funded. PO gave me some advice, if co-funding would be
a possibility.
Then last Friday I found out that U01 could not be co-funded through COBRE..
..
This Monday I sent the PO an email to report this situation, and asked him
when the council would meet. He emailed me the date Tuesday.
Today I got an auto-email saying that the su... 阅读全帖 |
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s******y
发帖数: 28562 | 23 呵呵，你里面的人称换了好几次，弄得我都糊涂了。你要是有兴趣的话和我私信吧。
至于说合作，得看看你具体是做什么的。我和前老板隔江而治，她做的东西我就不去碰
。另外一些我做的她也不去碰。
不过NIGMS 是个清水衙门，未必适合你。而且里面的人如果看到你有那么多grant了可
能会心生不满就不一定给你钱了。NIGMS是NIH里面少数几个没有硬性规定payline的地
方。那个percentile 只是参考。PM 或者Panel 如果觉得你不缺钱的话，即使你的分数
达到了可以给钱的程度也一样可以不给。 |
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m**k
发帖数: 1008 | 24 做社会科学的， 知道别人的经历， NIH grants within the payline最后没有fund，
因为项目是在中国做。 |
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A******y
发帖数: 2041 | 25 Submitting R01 or R21, you can suggest study sections. However, the NIH
does not have to listen to you. Once assigned, if you don't like it, you
can ask for a switch, but again, NIH does not have to listen to your
suggestion. I do know people got the study section they want from a switch,
but I don't know it helped.
Also, you don't have to believe me if you want. If your R21 ever got funded
, it means that it is fund-able at a R01 level. So you literally just
voluntarily cut yourself 3 year... 阅读全帖 |
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r*********e
发帖数: 27 | 26 申请了一个NIAID的R21 RFA，分数是33. NIAID R21 的 Payline 是 23. 但考虑是RFA
， 不知道还有没有希望了？
另外，给PO发email想约个时间讨论一下结果，但一直没有回我。 是不是应该继续发
email骚扰啊？ |
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A******y
发帖数: 2041 | 27 My suggestion will be to see if you can expand aim 1. NCI doesn't care that
much about your NI status; no payline promotion. |
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b******h
发帖数: 2732 | 29 我做的方向跟NIH的没啥关系，所以申不了R01.
我的PO告诉我，我们的CAREER funding rate是7%，貌似跟R01的payline差不多。 |
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A******y
发帖数: 2041 | 30 New AP is always suggested to apply for R01. Depending on your institute,
you will always have an advantage during the study section (your grant is
reviewed with other new PI grants). After review, most institutes give a
higher payline to the new investigator. So you answer is yes. R21 does not
care if you are new investigator or not.
Btw, you have CNS, you should also try Searle, Pew, etc. because your odd is
way higher than people like me without NCS. |
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l********r
发帖数: 239 | 31 你到底想问什么？K99申请有毕业时间限制的，前面投的那次结果没有出来不会允许你
重复投的。牛人一投就中的多的是，也有人投了两次都没拿到的。每个所的payline不
一样，别人投几次对你的意义在哪里？
K99不难拿到，拿到后对你找工作有多大帮助就不得而知。我们找工作那年最后onsite
的几乎人人都有K99。
你最好理清思路再来问问题，否则是浪费大家的时间。 |
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r****9
发帖数: 147 | 35 申NIH的grant
For example, R21
Parent R21跟institutional/topic specific R21
在申请跟payline上
有什么区别吗? |
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d*******8
发帖数: 93 | 36 Anyone who has a grant application scored within the payline but waits for
2015 fiscal year to be funded? When will the congress approve the new NIH
budget? On NIH Budget Office Website, the published document for 2015 fiscal
year is still a request. However, the new fiscal year supposedly starts on
Oct. 1st? |
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a*******a
发帖数: 49 | 38 从这个链接看到
NICHD ($1.28B): FY15: pending [FY13 paylines (FY14 never posted): 9th/13th
percentile for established/new-ESI investigators; 7th percentile for R03s &
R21s;
那R21的new investigator 13 percentile 有没有可能被fund呢？还是说按照7th
percentile cutoff，完全没有希望了呢？
现在还能做些什么提高下被fund的可能性么？
求指点，非常感谢！ |
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L**********8
发帖数: 130 | 39 NIDCR， “Fiscal policy but no paylines”
这是什么意思？ |
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 40 就是不公布payline.他们根据他们定的原则来发钱. |
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A******y
发帖数: 2041 | 41 I didn't say there is no external reviewers for R21. I said there is no
division between the proposals for NI/ESI or established investigator. All
proposal are reviewed equally unlike R01. For R01 reviews, NI/ESI proposals
are in a different pool during the review. Therefore, NI/ESIs have two
advantages over established investigators during the R01 processes to get
funded. One is during the review because your proposal is been reviewed and
compared with other NI/ESI (some people claim it ma... 阅读全帖 |
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e***n
发帖数: 138 | 42 忘记从哪看的了，success rate好像是把resubmission啥的算进去的，结果数字就比
payline看好了很多。 |
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j****t
发帖数: 1663 | 43 的确如ggpig 所说，每个cycle的payline都不会一样。大多情况下是由PO们内部商量决定
的。有时候每个center在fiscal year结束前会fund一些分数处于灰色地带的项目。所
以只要拿到不错的分数了，就不要放弃。并且多多和PO保持联系。
Investigators |
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h****8
发帖数: 16 | 44 谢谢某位网友提醒，隔壁组里有国人，怕被人肉，原贴删除。这里只贴正能量。
NIH R01屡投屡败，以前都是被reviewers批评地好象是狗屎不如的垃圾，修回后还是被
评为狗屎，所以也没心思下精力去改了，直接改投别的study section去碰运气。有了
以前数次打击，这次很淡定，做自己事，给不给听天命。投完后再也没看过状态了。今
晨上班后收到NIH 要求JIT的邮件后，去看了eRA,原来一个多月前就update了，
percentile在payline以内，reviewers具然从狗屎里找出了黄金，一致同意我的
proposal灰常灰常有意义，能解决他们没解决的大问题，尽管reviewers一如既往地质
疑了PI目前没有独立的状态是否有能力独立领导完成研究，但给的分都很高啊。感叹呀
！一样的狗屎不一样的结果呀！！
我现在是老板的寄生虫，从研究生开始，一路被老板挽留到现在。今天经过和老板的接
触，明白了即使拿到R01，老板仍要求我留下来帮他写grants,继续以寄生虫的身份共同
奋斗，开辟新天地，为人类进步贡献毕生力量。现在要去要留真是个问题。如果70%的
网友说走，咱是听人劝的人，果... 阅读全帖 |
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A******y
发帖数: 2041 | 46 My guess is less than 5% |
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u******n
发帖数: 5727 | 47 Glad to know they still want to share.. |
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p*******7
发帖数: 322 | 48 可以联系PO，对于在边缘的proposals，每个institute不一样，有的是hard payline，
有的是PO决定，对于后者，联系PO尤为重要。 |
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o*****e
发帖数: 311 | 49 哪一个所的? 问一下PO payline就有数了
是个不错的分, 但R21钱很少, Co-PI的share估计不会有太大impact. |
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l****y
发帖数: 486 | 50 现在在NCI对ESI也没有加分的 bonus了。据说有非常多的 middle career Stage PI
complain, 在NCI这种大家杀得刺刀见红的地方，一上来就给ESI加 5%，你让别人还活
不活。
现在NCI所谓的优惠是，在考虑选Payline（9%）以外的申请时，PD会优先考虑ESI,但他
们要不选你，你也没办法。 |
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