p*l
发帖数: 1359 | 1 NIGMS payline is right at about 14%~16% for established investigator. New
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发帖数: 1359 | 2 你问问sunnyday吧！他是混NIGMS的。
我是混NIBIB的，NIBIB几年以来一直都是只给4年的R01，而且只按90％年预
算发钱。去年开始的R01，今年sequester又砍了大概7－8％。没有砍25％那
么多，不过NIGMS是靠这样才保持了一个不那么变态的payline。NIBIB砍的
也不少了，payline还是直逼个位数。 |
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l********n
发帖数: 62 | 4 What do you mean by less than 40? If your score is between 30% and 39%, the
chance to be funded is very slim. There are two scenarios here:
If you applied for an RFA, you may have a chance as the selection is made by
the rank of impact scores among all the applications to the particular RFA
(瘸子里面选将军）.
If you applied for a PA, it is almost out as the decision is made by payline
. The payline is determined by a percentile. If the percentile of an
application is larger than 10%, the application cou... 阅读全帖 |
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w*********8
发帖数: 132 | 5 NIH对申请R01的new and early-stage investigators有稍高一点的Payline，查了一下
NIH对它们的定义，感觉很糊涂：
New investigator defined. To qualify as a new investigator, you cannot have
been a PI on certain NIH grants that you applied for. See the next section,
Previous Award Status, for information on exceptions.
Early-stage investigator (ESI) defined: A subset of new investigator status,
an ESI is a scientist who is within 10 years of either of the following：(1
)Terminal research degree.(2)Medical residency or equivalent.
从... 阅读全帖 |
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l**********1
发帖数: 5204 | 6 王小二过年 一年少钱一年 啦 除了干掉欧元和人民币后
Q. What is the average size of an NIGMS R01 grant?
A. The current average size of an NIGMS R01 grant is approximately $223,000
in direct costs per year. The average competing award, currently at about $
227,000, is typically larger than the average noncompeting renewal. Among
the competing awards, new awards are slightly smaller than the average and
competing renewal awards are somewhat larger.
//www.nigms.nih.gov/Research/Application/Pages/SuccessRateFAQs.aspx
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e**********m
发帖数: 397 | 7 以前听说payline如果是16 percentile的话，新人如果拿到18-20就能拿到钱。上次有
个SRA告诉说，新人在评分的时候已经有同情分了，所以在payline上就都一样了。
这个折扣到底是怎么个给法啊？有谁知道吗？ |
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 8 6月投和10月投没啥差别.投的量大了,payline就更低了.6月,10月都是FY2015,用一个
payline. |
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d*******8
发帖数: 93 | 9 主要是我们系主任比我还急。我的percentile 比目前公布的interim payline还高4点
，我的是September Council Review， 适合目前的interim payline。但就是一直没拿
到Notice of Award。 |
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d*******8
发帖数: 93 | 10 主要是我们系主任比我还急。我的percentile 比目前公布的interim payline还高4点
，我的是September Council Review， 适合目前的interim payline。但就是一直没拿
到Notice of Award。 |
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g***g
发帖数: 127 | 11 （1）对于NIGMS <20这个说法，我是听之前的老博后说的，他说是他当时的PO告诉他的
。因为NIGMS是K99里面最难的，所以我想你28分对大多数其他IC可能都差不多了，至少
NCI 28分之前是可以拿到钱的。
（2）不清楚啊，不过听说score和payline不是对等的，所以也许还要看你这批里其他
人的分数？
（3）一般是，你可以看success rate一般都比payline要高，但这个都要看当年NIH分
的钱数。
Investigators |
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发帖数: 72 | 12 My first submission of k22 scored 27. I think it is perhaps a borderline
score. The paylines of the previous years were 25, 26. I still have a chance
for a re-submission.
I have many naive questions about this k22. Please do not laugh at me...
(1)I have not got the summary of comments yet. Would it be helpful to call
the Scientific Review Administrator and to push him to give me the comments
AFAP?
(2)I have found the names of persons on the meeting roster.Would it be
helpful to go the same confe... 阅读全帖 |
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o****e
发帖数: 72 | 13 My first submission of k22 scored 27. I think it is perhaps a borderline
score. The paylines of the previous years were 25, 26. I still have a chance
for a re-submission.
I have many naive questions about this k22. Please do not laugh at me...
(1)I have not got the summary of comments yet. Would it be helpful to call
the Scientific Review Administrator and to push him to give me the comments
AFAP?
(2)I have found the names of persons on the meeting roster.Would it be
helpful to go the same confe... 阅读全帖 |
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 15 99.9999%了。NIAID是hard payline.只要到了payline,基本上都给。 |
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O*****t
发帖数: 533 | 16 胖鱼请看前面我和laghs的讨论，你那个数字是二月份的presidential budget，数目比
较保守，这周才出来的长2 billion是Senate spending bill, 而且是bipartisan bill
, 就是说这个bill在house应该也会通过，都通过以后大概在12月，这个bill要送回总
统办公室签字生效。我去找来这个Bill看了一下，特定用途的大约0.4b, 也就是说剩下
的1.6b分到27个institute, 每个institute大约59million, 希望这部分钱能有一些用
来fund new application, 这样payline才有可能涨一点。不过59million真心不多，我
的PO也说明年Payline多半不会涨。
[在 sunnyday (胖头鱼。按斤卖就赚了) 的大作中提到：]
:最后公布的数字好像没有那么多，大概就是800 Million 的增加而已。而且只有两个
地方增加了，一个就是NCI, 另外一个是director's innovator award （给大牛以
及大牛的门徒们分猪肉的地方） |
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z***t
发帖数: 2374 | 17 只要payline能保持去年水平就不错了
经济没有本质变好
payline不降低已经偷笑了 |
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b********e
发帖数: 470 | 18 这个institute2016财年的payline是10%。担心2017财年的payline会更低。 |
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n***3
发帖数: 663 | 19 谢谢楼上两位的建议，绿卡还没拿到，正在准备材料中。
准备等到Summary statement, 然后问问PO，打听一下往年的K99 payline是多少（他家
网站上没有K99的payline info, K99和其他的K award 是分开的）, 是否建议
resubmission. 我现在的倾向是明年1月份council meeting以后直接withdraw NIAID
K99, 然后2月申请其他institute K99. |
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i******u
发帖数: 937 | 20 据说这个要看你的分数。现在budget没有出来，NIH只fund最优秀的部分。所以你的分
数很好的话，应该在council meeting后几天就得消息了。一般分数的，payline以下的
有人据说等了几个月。取决啥时候budget通过。Payline以上的，估计等更久
同心急 |
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e*****1
发帖数: 279 | 21 代老公来问，刚拿到6月份递的RO1分数，28%，ESI， 上次36%，虽然有所进步，但估计
还是不够啊。
准备statement summary出来后给PO打电话，primary institution是NICHD，网站上说
RO1没有固定的payline，但像这个分数有可能吗？跪求建议怎么和PO商量。
网上查到有种R56是给payline边边上的，有了解的吗？能不能直接向PO询问可能性？
再拿不到估计就要走人了，万分焦虑，恳求牛人的建议。非常感谢！ |
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b********h
发帖数: 2481 | 22 去年10月的申请应该已经造就有结果了.
在你的eRA里应该有你申请的详细结果, 比如得分, statement 之类的, 如果得分靠近
payline, 还会有JIT.
至于payline, 去你所申请的insitute网站, 上面会有. |
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P*******e
发帖数: 27 | 25 Connection is indeed crucial. Recently I heard one grant was funded because
someone on the council meeting insisted it be awarded even though it didn't
make it in the study section. With NCI payline of 7% and NIAID 6% and
similar paylines at other institutes, i guess it really helps to have some
friendly reviewers.
another
which |
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A******y
发帖数: 2041 | 26 Yes, you can claim it on your CV but your got to say that you are Co-PI.
Btw, what institute is your R01? JTI is sent to all grants less than 40%.
If it is NCI, sorry, you won't get it. You need to be at 7 or lower to get
it. There is no new investigator bonus in NCI. Here is a quick summary
link to funding payline:
http://writedit.wordpress.com/nih-paylines-resources/ |
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f*******7
发帖数: 1019 | 27 今年有些NIH的institutes的payline只有6%了。几年前大家还在complain 15%的
payline,现在看是good old times了
setting |
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h***u
发帖数: 90 | 28 2月份申请, 6月份知道分数, 每年payline出来的时间不一样, 10月份不一定能出来,
如果跟前一年比差的很远, 一般program officer会建议resubmission, 如果分数特别
好, payline出来之前也有给的.祝好运! |
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g*********1
发帖数: 459 | 29 K99跟一般的RO1不一样,是按impact score定payline的. K99 impact score ranges 10
-90, 去年NCI K99 payline是20. 不知今年如何.我也是焦急等待中.
这一行,的确艰辛...... |
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A******y
发帖数: 2041 | 30 NCI percentile above payline is on case-by-case basis. Varmus said that he
will review every single new investigators' grants on the edge of payline
but I don't know if that's true. |
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K******S
发帖数: 10109 | 31 【 以下文字转载自 Biology 讨论区 】
发信人: ArtyArty (Art Lover!), 信区: Biology
标 题: Re: NIH budget要砍2.5B?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Dec 21 07:34:44 2012, 美东)
If you actually believe that we have a debt problem, it is going to be a
long discussion. Republican cannot even pass their own plan B bill. Also,
the other bill passed Congress only cut around 250 billion without a single
cent from defense. The senate bill which already passed (yes passed by the
senate already) is far more balanced. Republican seems to i... 阅读全帖 |
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f*******7
发帖数: 1019 | 32 depends on the payline of your institute |
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A******y
发帖数: 2041 | 33 Think about this, 30 means half the reviewers marked 2 and half the
reviewers marked 4 on their score cards. A score of 30 is probably right on
the edge of payline. If you are a new investigator, you are good because
your next submission should get funded. My old boss got a score of 14 on
the latest cycle and it is around 3 percentile.
The current possible score is 10-90 or 100...but you won't even get scored
if your grant is not competitive. Score is good especially for 1st
submission. |
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e****g
发帖数: 4434 | 35 beat the payline是不是就一定能拿到钱了？？
14牛呀，铁定搞到了
on |
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f****b
发帖数: 314 | 36 you will wait for 2011 budget and so the payline... |
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A******y
发帖数: 2041 | 37 If you are a new PI, converted to an R01 and you will get more funding and
more years if you got 16% at R21 review (you do know R21 has way lower
payline than R01). Getting R21 for new PI is a curse, IMO, not a good thing
. |
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A******y
发帖数: 2041 | 38 Okay, let's see if having R21 will negatively impact your chance as a new PI
years none-renewable. You have to turn around to write a R01 right away,
and if you didn't publish several papers during the R21 period, the
reviewers will likely to ding you badly in the review session. The payline
for R21 are significant lower and the chance of getting R21 by itself is low
(just look at the number funded and % for R21 at NIH). Also, if you can
get R21, you grant is good for R01 because we all know |
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f*******7
发帖数: 1019 | 39 R21 doesn't affect NI/ESI status.
new PI
away,
payline
low
can
after R21. |
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v******d
发帖数: 1939 | 40 A few points are inaccurate. Contact your NIH program director.
new PI
away,
payline
is low
can
go after R21. |
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m*****e
发帖数: 333 | 41 A totally wrong message! Receiving R21 will not change the new investigator
status.
In addition, before you apply R01, make sure you have enough preliminary
data to show the very possible success of the project. R21, on the other
hand, supports bold ideas.
PI
payline
low
after R21. |
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l********g
发帖数: 400 | 42 舞蹈, 完全是个舞蹈. 如果你想给人家建议, 请先把 NIH 的 POLICY 搞懂.
PI
payline
low
after R21. |
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l********g
发帖数: 400 | 43 舞蹈, 完全是个舞蹈. 如果你想给人家建议, 请先把 NIH 的 POLICY 搞懂.
PI
payline
low
after R21. |
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l****l
发帖数: 42 | 44 This is my first R03. Just found out the priority score is 24. No summary
statement and percentile information available yet.
Anyone knows what's the payline for R03 in NCI this year? Someone told me
they do not calculate percentile for R03 and the funding decision is solely
determined by priority score. Is that true?
Thanks. |
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b********h
发帖数: 2481 | 47 知道现在拿funding很难，可是有一个好的idea也很难，而且也不是都能搞到data，
俺现在想申请一个NIH的grant，但是现在payline这么低，而且申请一次周期太长，我
想问大家，能不能用同样的idea，同样的data，或者就用同样一份proposal同时申请其他agencies，比如各种foundation的grant，这样会有问题吗? 谢谢各位。 |
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b*********e
发帖数: 89 | 49 分数在payline以下，又是new PI，应该是中了。
但council meeting 都开完一周了，还没有收到确定的通知。
有经验的说说怎么一回事，接下来的步骤是什么。
拿AP后第一个funding，挺紧张的。
谢谢 |
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x*b
发帖数: 253 | 50 I have waited for ~8 months after the council meeting simply because NIH
had to wait for the budget from Congress.
However, you should receive your NoA very soon if your council meeting was
held in May.
If your percentile score is below the payline, you should be able to get
the money, not to mention that you are a new PI. |
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