E*****m 发帖数: 25615 | 1
這我早看過了。
你根本說不出來結果論有啥問題,尤其是用在這裡, 沒錯吧?
不同的理由是什麼? 說得出來嗎?
你和我也不同, so what?
就說殺人,剝奪人的生命。
為什麼? 你不主張這個?
你這不是結果論,至少你說的不對。
from a consequentialist standpoint, a morally right act (or omission) is one
that will produce a good outcome, or consequence.
不是結果正確手段就正確, 而是道德的行動必須是意圖產生好的結果, 你看出差別沒
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t*******r 发帖数: 2940 | 2 你早看过还用这么蹩脚的結果論:”from a consequentialist standpoint, a
morally right act (or omission) is one that will produce a good outcome, or
consequence.“ 什么叫『意图產生好的結果』?为保全群体的生命牺牲个体的生命是
不是『意图產生好的結果』?你或许认为是,所以牺牲个体是道德的;但有会认为保全
群体的生命是『意图產生好的結果』,但牺牲个体仍然不道德。所以有这样的argument
:for the good out come, do good thing. 虽然这样的argument仍然会产生两难,但
至少将过程的道德或是categorical imperative考虑进去了。这是课里讨论的重点之一
,有兴趣再看一遍吧。
在我们讨论的context之下,『你和我也不同』,但都是人,神是人吗?
你说杀人不道德难道不是指『人杀人』不道德?
我无需向你们主张『神杀人符合人的道德』,但你们在向我们主张『神杀人不符合人的
道德』。
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t*******r 发帖数: 2940 | 3 你开这一个帖本意就是避免回答:从人杀人不道德如何推导出神杀人不道德。
我们来看你加的问题有没有帮助你回答:
1.你不读帖?结果论是道德是唯一的道德理论吗?『日常道德判斷』是根据我自己的信
仰,文化
,常识,社会共识,个人见解,没有有意识研究用什么理论。
2.你需要回答这个问题,为什么我需要帮你回答?
3. 我没有提出『神的道德標準』,我不知道『神的道德標準』
4. ”from a consequentialist standpoint, a morally right act (or omission)
is one that will produce a good outcome, or consequence.“和自愿有什么关系?
5. 比如说你盲信基督徒比极端反基少『用頭腦思考道德原理』,你和老七们显示得相
反。
6. 你special pleading你自己问题的4.
我已经用你读过但不知道的哈佛课程里的例子,证明”你的结果论“有重要缺陷,你用
结果论证明的东西有意义吗? |
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t*******r 发帖数: 2940 | 4 这是你的结果论:”from a consequentialist standpoint, a morally right act (or
omission) is one that will produce a good outcome, or consequence.“
你将哈佛课的例子再推导一次看看. |
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t*******r 发帖数: 2940 | 5 我早提示你:信仰上,上帝说不可杀人;文化上,己所不欲勿施於人。哲学上,人杀人
是Categorical wrong。
你不提哈佛課是对的,你真的没看懂他们在争论什么。他们本来就是要通过这个例子来
判断杀人是否道德,你先判断了再来讨论,这就是你的结果论?你只是说:因为杀人不
道德所以杀人不道德,这叫循环论证。然而那几个杀人者是从真的结果论的角度为自己
辩护的:他们有家庭,认为总体价值比被杀者高,from a consequentialist
standpoint (杀人者) a morally right act (or omission) is one that will
produce a good outcome, or consequence.“ 这对于他们完全成立。
况且你认为牺牲是道德的,你还记得要我找出:“誰犧牲個體保全群體不道德了? 你
要不要舉個例子,古往今來都可以, 一個例子就好。” 你知道牺牲的意思吗? 上帝
给你個腦袋,你经常误用,就像对民科的信仰;坚持矛盾的行动;这里又乱套结果论。
你知道牛顿理论在大多數日常生活中都是適用的,它有不适用的时候;在使用任何理论... 阅读全帖 |
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t*******r 发帖数: 2940 | 6 归纳在这里更好
原帖是这样开始的,老E信奉结果论,然后根据『老E的结果论』他编撰了一个论证:神
杀人和人杀人是道德的,以此批判基督信仰。他自己就信了。求道者一向坚持:即使讨
论神,一切也只能从人的逻辑出发,就质疑老E的结果论在人杀人问题上的可靠性,老E
引用如下结果论定义:”from a consequentialist standpoint, a morally right
act (or omission) is one that will produce a good outcome, or consequence.“
求道者反驳说在一个哈佛大学的课程里,这样的结果论被驳斥得体无完肤,因为几个
杀人者就是用的这样的结果论为自己辩护,同学们可以自己去看。老E辩解说那是求道
者的结果论,而求道者在人杀人问题杀认为结果论有严重缺陷,所以才引用哈佛课的驳
斥,并要求老E用『老E的结果论』论证人杀人的道德,老E又给出如下论证:"你沒把這
個道德判斷本身當作結果, 這樣只因為可以讓人多存活幾天而殺人被認為是道德的話
, 這個判斷結果(對其他事件)的影響是不好的,所以『我的』結果論不認為這是道... 阅读全帖 |
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t*******r 发帖数: 2940 | 7 ”from a consequentialist standpoint, a morally right act (or omission) is
one that will produce a good outcome, or consequence.“ |
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n********n 发帖数: 8336 | 8 有关罪的教义
罪的定义
罪是违背神的律法:希腊文parabasis的意思是「逾越;违犯」。神将律法赐给摩
西,希望提高人对他的准则的认识,和违犯那些准则的严重性(罗四15)。神说:「你
不可作假见证。」这就是说,说谎是逾越和违反神的律法(比较罗二23,五14;加三19
)。
罪是不遵守神的准则:希腊文hamartia的意思是:「不中的」、「偏离公义的道路
」。它的意思就是,所有人都不能达到神准则所划下的标志,而且还继续不断地离开那
个准则(罗三23)。这包括了过犯的罪行(sin of commission)与忽略的罪行(sin
of omission);不能行正确的事也是罪(罗十四23)。
罪是人内在的一个律:罪不单是一种行为,罪也是住在人里面的一个律。保罗提过
,他与罪的律挣扎(罗七14、17至25);所有人都有罪性(加三22)。希伯来书三章13
节提到,「有人被罪迷惑,心里刚硬了」。耶稣也指,罪是一个「情况,或一种性格特
质」(约九41,十五24,十九11)。
罪是违抗神:另一个关于罪的希腊字是anomia,这字意思是「违背律法」(约壹三
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n********n 发帖数: 8336 | 9 有关罪的教义
罪的定义
罪是违背神的律法:希腊文parabasis的意思是「逾越;违犯」。神将律法赐给摩
西,希望提高人对他的准则的认识,和违犯那些准则的严重性(罗四15)。神说:「你
不可作假见证。」这就是说,说谎是逾越和违反神的律法(比较罗二23,五14;加三19
)。
罪是不遵守神的准则:希腊文hamartia的意思是:「不中的」、「偏离公义的道路
」。它的意思就是,所有人都不能达到神准则所划下的标志,而且还继续不断地离开那
个准则(罗三23)。这包括了过犯的罪行(sin of commission)与忽略的罪行(sin
of omission);不能行正确的事也是罪(罗十四23)。
罪是人内在的一个律:罪不单是一种行为,罪也是住在人里面的一个律。保罗提过
,他与罪的律挣扎(罗七14、17至25);所有人都有罪性(加三22)。希伯来书三章13
节提到,「有人被罪迷惑,心里刚硬了」。耶稣也指,罪是一个「情况,或一种性格特
质」(约九41,十五24,十九11)。
罪是违抗神:另一个关于罪的希腊字是anomia,这字意思是「违背律法」(约壹三
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n********n 发帖数: 8336 | 10 有限救贖論的原原本本
中華文化不怎麽談個人,基督救人脫離個人罪的捆綁之說多少讓華人感到是很生疏的話
題,我們明白的是彼此得罪的那種“罪”。所以信徒告訴別人什麽是罪,如何得救,最
好說得罪上帝和彼此得罪,以及與上帝和好和被上帝接納,大家就會比較容易明白。關
於救贖的教義就是:基督的降世為人、死在十字架上、復活,這件事使信徒得到救贖與
神和好。這是福音,沒有爭論的。至於爲何如此,基督如何做成這工,則有多種哲學解
釋,每一種解釋都構成一個學説。
昨天我讀了一篇19世紀遁道會的神學家John Miley 寫的駁斥有限救贖論的研究論文。
我現在來試圖翻譯這個救贖論的觀念,因爲在網上找不到有關的中文討論。有些神學辯
論華人教會似乎一向不怎麽參與,所有的辯論,我們華人信徒可能常常會感到不得要領
,聼起來似乎都有些道理嘛。因爲你會注意到,這個救贖論的研討都是集中在個人層面
上的:圍繞著選民個人的被選、個人的罪得赦免和得救,而華人的文化卻是把焦點放在
群體和關係方面的,研究個體事物的屬性不是我們的擅長。
以下介紹的内容大半來自John Miley 的論文Theory of Satisfaction部份,... 阅读全帖 |
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l****u 发帖数: 2166 | 11 "A person endowed with these four qualities can be known as 'a person of
integrity.' Which four?
"There is the case where a person of integrity, when asked, doesn't reveal
another person's bad points, to say nothing of when unasked. Furthermore,
when asked, when pressed with questions, he is one who speaks of another
person's bad points not in full, not in detail, with omissions, holding back
...
"Then again, a person of integrity, when unasked, reveals another person's
good points, to say nothi |
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y*m 发帖数: 60 | 12 Apple defends new PowerBooks' lack of L3 cache
By Nick dePlume, Publisher and Editor in Chief
September 23, 2003 - Apple excited customers last week at Apple Expo Paris
with the introduction of new 12-inch, 15-inch, and 17-inch PowerBook G4
models.
Some mobile professionals, however, have pointed out an omission in the new
portables' tech specs -- L3 cache.
Across the entire product line, the new PowerBooks feature a 512K SRAM level 2
cache, but the old 17-inch PowerBook featured a 1MB L3 cache. |
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K****2 发帖数: 753 | 13 some review zz from forums.macrumors.com:
The Wall Street Journal's Walt Mossberg has posted his review of the Apple
iPhone.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118289311361649057.html.html?mod=technology_main_promo_left
Mossberg and Bohret tested the iPhone for two weeks in multiple usage
scenarios and in various cities:
Quote:
Our verdict is that, despite some flaws and feature omissions, the iPhone is
, on balance, a beautiful and breakthrough handheld computer. Its software,
especially, sets a n |
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c****x 发帖数: 6601 | 14 Computer Science M.S. Supplement
Important Instructions for M.S. Applicants
1. Please make sure that ALL applicable sections of your application form
are complete. Omission of information such as GRE and TOEFL scores (except
where unavailable or not applicable) will be grounds for rejecting an
application.
2. At least two (and preferably all) of your recommendations must be
submitted online. Applications lacking at least two online letters will be
rejected without further consideration.
3. The C... 阅读全帖 |
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c****x 发帖数: 6601 | 15 Computer Science M.S. Supplement
Important Instructions for M.S. Applicants
1. Please make sure that ALL applicable sections of your application form
are complete. Omission of information such as GRE and TOEFL scores (except
where unavailable or not applicable) will be grounds for rejecting an
application.
2. At least two (and preferably all) of your recommendations must be
submitted online. Applications lacking at least two online letters will be
rejected without further consideration.
3. The C... 阅读全帖 |
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k***r 发帖数: 4260 | 16 To be honest, and I'm sure this has something to do with
the fact that I'm not an expert of programming languages,
I haven't found a great deal of differences between scala
and Java, or between scala and Python, given that the syntax
of Scala is the oddest of the three.
Of course they are all different, but not in big ways to me,
especially between scala and Java, both of which are statically
typed. Scala's advantages such as type inference, and other
form of simplifications (omission of bracket |
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l*****9 发帖数: 9501 | 17 http://www.techinsurance.com/blog/errors-and-omissions/what-dev
Traffic problems. The website’s first and most obvious problem occurred
shortly after launch, when users rushed to sign up, only to find the website
overwhelmed and malfunctioning due to the massive amount of traffic. When
most people think about web traffic problems, they assume they occur because
of a problem with the server, but as tech blogger Paul Adams points out,
the site’s problems were caused by architecture as well. Adams ... 阅读全帖 |
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d***a 发帖数: 13752 | 18 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZeniMax_v._Oculus
The jury trial completed on February 2, 2017, with the jury finding that
Luckey had violated the NDA he had with ZeniMax, and awarding $500 million
to ZeniMax.[15][16] However, the jury found that Oculus, Facebook, Luckey,
Iribe, and Carmack did not misappropriate or steal trade secrets,[15][16][17
] though ZeniMax continued to publicly assert otherwise.[18] Oculus will
have to pay $200 million for breaking the non-disclosure agreement, and
addit... 阅读全帖 |
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V********y 发帖数: 4166 | 19 Sorry I cannot use Chinese at work.
IRS can def audit you. Status of limitation is 3 years, if there is over 25%
omission, it become 6 years. If there is fraud, the IRS has no limitation,
they can always audit you.
Business deduction, do you mean job related expense? It needs to exceed 2%
of AGI, which is not much money to be deducted.
You can amend the return for 2013, also amend the state tax return. However,
you probably should response to the IRS letter.
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l*********d 发帖数: 51 | 20 听说一般都上error and omission insurance,是这样吗?哪家保险公司好呢?谢了 |
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d*********e 发帖数: 3835 | 21 Crestview, FL – Senior General Accountant NEEDED at L-3!!
L-3 is seeking a Senior General Accountant for our Crestview, FL facility.
The Sr. General Accountant:
• Maintains or oversees the maintenance of accounts and records in
such areas such as disbursements, expenses, tax payments and income
• Compiles and analyzes financial information to prepare reports, make
general ledger entries, and review/verify accuracy of journal entries
• Prepares income and balance sheet statement... 阅读全帖 |
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y****h 发帖数: 84 | 22 Qui Tam: "an action brought by an informer, under a statute which
establishes a penalty for the commission or omission of a certain act, and
provides that the same shall be recoverable in a civil action, part of the
penalty to go to any person who will bring such action and the remainder to
the state or some other institution." (Black's Law)
如果没有被自杀的话,那就大概在加勒比度假吧。
re7 (折腾) 的大作中提到: 】 |
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P****d 发帖数: 564 | 23 From my experience, people don't typically pay attention to the author
contribution section when evaluating a job candidate. What's more important is what your reference letters say about whether you have a brain and whether you can impress them with your way of thinking when you interview.
So you think it was not an omission on his part, I would let it go. |
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g********0 发帖数: 6201 | 24 05/01/2012 Daniel B. Moskowitz
Will President Obama’s plan help save the bioscience economy? Some industry
experts aren’t so sure.
Last week, the White House released a plan to spur the bioscience economy.
The plan outlines what it calls "a comprehensive approach to harnessing
innovations in biological research" and promises specific federal action.
The actions in this “Bioeconomy Blueprint,” which was released on April 26
, include increased government purchasing of biobased products, increase... 阅读全帖 |
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m****l 发帖数: 16 | 25 今天刚看到Molecular Cell 的 Erratum。 有些看不懂了。
CRL4VprBP E3 Ligase Promotes Monoubiquitylation and Chromatin Binding of TET
Dioxygenases
Molecular Cell, Volume 59, Issue 6, p1043, 17 September 2015
During the final preparation of this manuscript, the authors accidentally
omitted the reference and discussion of the following paper: Yu et al. (2013
). CRL4 Complex Regulates Mammalian Oocyte Survival and Reprogramming by
Activation of TET Proteins. Science 342, 1518–1521. The reference should
have appeared... 阅读全帖 |
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m****l 发帖数: 16 | 26 今天刚看到Molecular Cell 的 Erratum。 有些看不懂了。
CRL4VprBP E3 Ligase Promotes Monoubiquitylation and Chromatin Binding of TET
Dioxygenases
Molecular Cell, Volume 59, Issue 6, p1043, 17 September 2015
During the final preparation of this manuscript, the authors accidentally
omitted the reference and discussion of the following paper: Yu et al. (2013
). CRL4 Complex Regulates Mammalian Oocyte Survival and Reprogramming by
Activation of TET Proteins. Science 342, 1518–1521. The reference should
have appeared... 阅读全帖 |
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z*******u 发帖数: 10 | 27 【 以下文字转载自 JobHunting 讨论区 】
发信人: zxustcttu (WildWest), 信区: JobHunting
标 题: 最新的STEM list (Chemical Engineerng included!)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Sep 25 14:55:01 2008)
刚收到学校国际学生办公室的confirmation (见下文):
最新的列表:http://www.ice.gov/sevis/stemlist.htm
SEVIS NOTICE - September 25, 2008
This broadcast message is sent to notify users of a correction to the list
of STEM Designated Degree Programs on the Student and Exchange Visitor
Program Web site. SEVP was recently alerted of an omission to the current
list. S |
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r*******g 发帖数: 23 | 28 zz
Academic Movement and Hires, 2012-2013
March 26th, 2013
A comment by “Rumor Mill” in the old Nocera thread reminds us that now is
a good time to take stock of recent academic poaches and hires. I am certain
this list is incomplete; please point out omissions in the comments.
Poaches:
Dan Nocera (MIT to Harvard)
M.G. Finn (Scripps to Georgia Tech)
K.C. Nicolaou (Scripps to Rice)
John Wood (Colorado State to Baylor)
Corey Stephenson (Boston University to Michigan)
Sharon Hammes-Schiffer (Penn S... 阅读全帖 |
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g****t 发帖数: 31659 | 29 http://blogs.adventnet.com/svembu/2005/12/30/two-philosophies-in-cdma-a-stroll-down-memory-lane/
I have now worked a little over 10 years in the industry, after getting my
PhD. In my very first year of work at Qualcomm, I noticed how even when
speaking about the same subject, namely CDMA, academia and industry were on
totally different planets. When I was in Qualcomm, I co-authored a paper
with Dr. Viterbi, titled Two Different Philosophies in CDMA, A Comparison. I
still stand by the conclusions... 阅读全帖 |
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l********A 发帖数: 21 | 30 最新一期的IEEE Power&Energy 杂志(Nov/Dec 2011)上有一篇关于中国风能的文章。
可是杂志编辑在文章首页用了一张很大的没有台湾岛的中国地图(看附件),不知道你
们看了有什么感受,反正我是不舒服。所以我就发email给杂志主编表示我的不满,可
是一直没有回应,估计是我人单力薄,所以我希望能在本版上找找人气。
其实我们都知道好多美国人(甚至有些地图)都认为台湾和大陆是两个国家,但是美国
官方向来都只承认一个中国(不管是PRC还是ROC)。我们这些在国外的可能也没什么机
会/能力给祖国出上大力,但有关面子上的小忙还是可以帮的。因此我希望大家能不能
也都给这个主编发发抗议信,至少要求他们承认是编辑上“疏忽”了。主编的Email如
下:
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Melvin I.Olken
m*****[email protected]
如果大家比较忙,可以用下面我写的信(如果大家还看得过去的话:))
谢谢。
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s******n 发帖数: 2279 | 31 DeLengocky: North Texas needs more residency slots, not M.D. classes
Posted Monday, Oct. 11, 2010 2
Comments Print Share Buzz up!Reprints
Topics: North Texas, Texas, Texas Education Agencies
Special to the Star-Telegram
When the Texas Legislature convenes in January, it might act on a proposal
from the University of North Texas Health Science Center (UNTHSC) to
establish another medical school -- an allopathic or MD-granting school
tentatively called UNTMD -- on its Fort Worth campus.
The UNTM... 阅读全帖 |
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l********y 发帖数: 2295 | 32 a kind reminding, this is from ERAS, it's better to double-check everything
tonight:
You cannot change your MyERAS Application once it has been certified and
submitted.
Once you have certified and submitted your application, it will be
irrevocably locked and no changes will be permitted. Your application, once
certified and submitted, is provided to all programs to which you apply
during this ERAS season. Please proofread your application for any errors or
omissions. ERAS recommends that you rev... 阅读全帖 |
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s****y 发帖数: 3416 | 33 Moving on from life's little (and large) lapses
Big decisions make me nervous. I'm okay when it comes to ordering dinner or
buying a new pair of jeans, but if I'm selecting a house, a job, or even a
mate, some part of me always wonders whether I'm making the best choice. It'
s not that I'm a slave to perfection (honest!). It's just that I'm simply
trying to steer clear of future regrets and the anger, frustration, grief,
and self-blame that accompany them and make regret such an unwelcome, energ... 阅读全帖 |
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s**********i 发帖数: 711 | 34
that's backtick, not apostrophe. apostrophe is same as single quote
in ascii. when you write 'something', those are called single quotes.
I'm good, that ' is called apostrophe, used to indicate omission of
letters.
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o**********e 发帖数: 18403 | 35 原帖在此:
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/CivilSociety/7475.html
To Chinese-American voters:
What happened last year has made it sufficiently clear
that We need to form a voter bloc. The way voting
bloc works, is before the primary election (for each
party), we invite the candidates to our events to post
them on our particular issues and concerns. Then
we announce our endorsement for the best candidates
in each party. After the primary election, each major
party will get a candidate for each ope... 阅读全帖 |
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z*******n 发帖数: 1034 | 36 http://www.informit.com/articles/printerfriendly/2211695
Introduction to "The Java Language Specification, Java SE 8 Edition"
By James Gosling, Gilad Bracha, Alex Buckley, Bill Joy, Guy L. Steele
Date: Jun 12, 2014
The Java® programming language is a general-purpose, concurrent, class-
based, object-oriented language. It is designed to be simple enough that
many programmers can achieve fluency in the language. The Java programming
language is related to C and C++ but is organized rather dif... 阅读全帖 |
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M******a 发帖数: 6723 | 37 来自主题: Mod_CHN_Hist版 - 奉天兵工厂 https://wwiiafterwwii.wordpress.com/2017/04/03/mukden-arsenal-after-wwii/
Mukden Arsenal after WWII
April 3, 2017 jwh19752 Comments
(Zhang's Gate, the old entrance to Mukden Arsenal)
For people interested in Japanese firearms of WWII, the name Mukden Arsenal
is familiar. The history of the facility after Japan's defeat is less well
known. Under various names, it did survive for some time, producing an odd
mix of WWII weapons after the war's end.
(Mukden Arsenal proofmark during WWII)
Mukden an... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****i 发帖数: 213 | 38 我的这车就airbag灯亮过一次,除此之外再没出过问题。一年之内就跟dealer打过两次
交道(另一次是换机油),可以说及其省心。当daily drive完全没问题。
08年跟09年不是一代,09年的改动还是蛮大的。
05-08年的Cayman Base说实话让人有点失望,是普通的自动档或者5速手动,作为
Porsche来说有点太寒碜了。09年就是PDK或者6速手动了,马力也相应加大了。
所以,建议直接加几千块钱上我这个:)
Edmunds上是这样说 09 vs 08的:
http://www.edmunds.com/porsche/cayman/2009/
Porsche doesn't like criticism. For the Porsche Cayman, its designers and
engineers addressed almost every complaint, omission and secret desire we
had for its two-seat sport coupe. Last year, we would have told you t... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****e 发帖数: 112 | 41 Dr. Frank Logsdon was co-founder of The New American Standard Version. As
people begin confronting Dr. Logsdon on some the NASV's serious omissions
and errors. He re-examined the evidence and this was his verdict:
"I must under God denounce every attachment to the New American Standard
Version. I'm afraid I'm in trouble with the Lord . . . I wrote the format .
. . I wrote the preface . . . I'm in trouble; . . . its wrong, terribly
wrong; its frighteningly wrong . . .The deletions are absolut |
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