w**j 发帖数: 1032 | 1 The act of murder is rampant in the Bible. In much of the Bible,
especially the Old Testament, there are laws that command that people be
killed for absurd reasons such as working on the Sabbath, being gay, cursing
your parents, or not being a virgin on your wedding night. In addition to
these crazy and immoral laws, there are plenty of examples of God's
irrationality by his direct killing of many people for reasons that defy any
rational explanation such as killing children who make fun of... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 2 1) Capital Punishment Crimes:
Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge
or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must
be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (
Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches
You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17
NAB)
Kill Homosexuals
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of the... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 3 4) Miscellaneous Murders
More of Samson's Murders
(The Lord saves Sampson from standing trial for 30
murders and arson by allowing him to kill 1000 more men.) When he
reached Lehi, and the Philistines came shouting to meet him, the spirit of
the Lord came upon him: the ropes around his arms become as flax that is
consumed by fire and the bonds melted away from his hands. Near him
was the fresh jawbone of an ass; he reached out, grasped it, and with it
killed... 阅读全帖 |
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b******g 发帖数: 77 | 4 一个martrix,每行每列都是sorted,找到前kth 个
Analysis:
Applying a quick-select algorithm will achieve an O( n * n ) time
complexity. Can we do better? Yes. Here is a algorithm:
1. Like quick-select algorithm, this algorithm applies divide-and-
conquer.
2. Initialize those two boundary lines to (n * [0] and n * [n]) to
include all array items in boundary.
3. Process subarray between boundary lines (lo, hi ) in each
recursive call:
a. select a random item in su... 阅读全帖 |
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X*t 发帖数: 1746 | 5 Slavery in the Bible
Except for murder, slavery has got to be one of the most immoral things
a person can do. Yet slavery is rampant throughout the Bible in both the
Old and New Testaments. The Bible clearly approves of slavery in many
passages, and it goes so far as to tell how to obtain slaves, how hard you
can beat them, and when you can have sex with the female slaves.
Many Jews and Christians will try to ignore the moral problems of
slavery by saying that these slaves were actuall... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 6 3) Murdering Children
Kill Sons of Sinners
Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their
fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the
world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)
God Will Kill Children
The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for your
children will die at birth or perish in the womb or never even be conceived.
Even if your children do survive to grow up, I will take them from
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w*********r 发帖数: 3382 | 7 To Rosamond
首先我觉得你简单的说两句忽略了很多首贴里面的问题,我希望你一一回答
为什么圣经会让一些人真诚的相信奴隶制是上帝认同并默许的?他们也同时在圣经中找到了依据,这说明什么?
为什么反对奴隶制和歧视妇女的进步力量,他们的信仰支持几乎全部来自新约?那旧约要不要考虑?这是不是圣经自身的inconsistency和contradiction?
如果一个信仰是绝对公义的,它为什么会在奴隶制问题和妇女平权问题上给人错误的教导和暗示?一个绝对公义的道德体系,为什么会在这些重要问题上表现得如此模棱两可,甚至落后得让人厌恶?
当代基督徒为什么要对圣经的教导做cherry picking?我承认你可以在一些章节中找到当代社会认同的价值观,我的问题是,为什么对那些明显不被认同的价值观视而不见?
现在来回应你的回帖:
先来质疑你一个陈述
“不信教的人也有很多极端分歧。你怎么能说极端分歧的根源是宗教或者是神,而不是人呢?”
你没有理解这个问题的本意,这其实是我的point,不应该是你的point。
为什么这么说?我的说法是人本身也可以发展出morality,人在道德上有分歧是正常的。
但是基督... 阅读全帖 |
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t*********r 发帖数: 122 | 8 [原帖已被版主误删] 」现重新打字贴出:
和合本中文圣经对华语圣徒真理生命的追求无容置疑,但它翻译的缺憾、模糊及属灵上
粗造已经越来越成为华语圣徒追求的障碍。
让我们一一来看:
1. 约翰福音 4:24
KJV: God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit
and in truth.
直译: 神是灵:那些敬拜祂的必须在灵里和在真实里(或真理中)敬拜。
NIV: God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.
直译: 神是灵,并且祂的敬拜者必须在灵里和在真实里(或真理中)敬拜。
ASV: God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship in spirit and
truth.
直译: 神是一个灵: 并且那些敬拜祂的必须在灵里和真实里(或真理中)敬拜。
NLT: For God is Spirit, so those who worshi... 阅读全帖 |
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C*****e 发帖数: 367 | 9 【 以下文字转载自 Church 俱乐部 】
发信人: CCBible (神同在圣经), 信区: Church
标 题: 英文圣经译本的选择(KJV、NKJV、ASV、NASB、ESV、NIV)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Apr 26 15:42:56 2012, 美东)
博主注:ESV版本是目前美国改革宗教会如北美长老会PCA,正统长老会OPC,福音长老会E
PC等长老会和改革宗神学院“钦定”的译本。而目前美国长老会PCUSA使用的是NRSV。仅
供参考。所以平时读经,可能还是ESV更加好一点。而研经的时候可以NASB,NKJV和原文
参考。经与美国改革宗译者交流,觉得其实各个版本都挺不错,但是正统译本(新世界
译本是异端耶证的)中,最不建议的就是信息版圣经(the Message, MSG)因为过于意译
了。NASB和NKJV的主要差别下面转载文中也提到了,主要是翻译时采用的原始抄本的不
同,NKJV使用的是更为可靠的拜占庭抄本The Byzantine Greek Text & Verb Parsing
and The New Testament in the O... 阅读全帖 |
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j******g 发帖数: 642 | 10 Except for murder, slavery has got to be one of the most immoral things a
person can do. Yet slavery is rampant throughout the Bible in both the Old
and New Testaments. The Bible clearly approves of slavery in many passages,
and it goes so far as to tell how to obtain slaves, how hard you can beat
them, and when you can have sex with the female slaves.
Many Jews and Christians will try to ignore the moral problems of
slavery by saying that these slaves were actually servants or indentured
... 阅读全帖 |
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j******g 发帖数: 642 | 11 So these are the Bible family values! A man can buy as many sex slaves as
he wants as long as he feeds them, clothes them, and screws them!
What does the Bible say about beating slaves? It says you can beat both
male and female slaves with a rod so hard that as long as they don't die
right away you are cleared of any wrong doing.
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the
slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave
survives for ... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 12 你这版本,神的众子为什么翻译成天使,另外据说圣经是有圣灵随着你们,是大有神迹
,不可能有错误冲突滴? 另外你这没回答,我问的是在创造人类之前就造了上亿天使
的原文是什么,另外按你这逻辑,晨星也是耶稣的称号,你是不是可以认为,有很多耶
稣啊?
真有意思阿
Bible VersionsJob 38Job 38:7Compare Translations
Job 38:7 NIV
New International Version
while the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy?
Read Job 38 NIV | Read Job 38:7 NIV in parallel
Job 38:7 ASV
American Standard Version
When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for
joy?
Read Job 38 ASV | Read Job 38:7 ASV in p... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 13 这里是各种译文
Revelation 12:12 NIV
New International Version
Therefore rejoice, you heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to the
earth and the sea, because the devil has gone down to you! He is filled with
fury, because he knows that his time is short."
Read Revelation 12 NIV | Read Revelation 12:12 NIV in parallel
Revelation 12:12 ASV
American Standard Version
Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe for the earth
and for the sea: because the devil is gone down unto you, h... 阅读全帖 |
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G******e 发帖数: 9567 | 14 据说不了解宗教的人也应该自生自灭了,但看来不是。我给你提供点圣经金句,还有很
多,限于篇幅。
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest
who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be
purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to
death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives. (Leviticus
20:13 NAB)
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or for... 阅读全帖 |
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C*****e 发帖数: 367 | 15 【 以下文字转载自 TrustInJesus 讨论区 】
发信人: CCBible (神同在圣经), 信区: TrustInJesus
标 题: 英文圣经译本的选择(KJV、NKJV、ASV、NASB、ESV、NIV)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Apr 26 15:43:06 2012, 美东)
【 以下文字转载自 Church 俱乐部 】
发信人: CCBible (神同在圣经), 信区: Church
标 题: 英文圣经译本的选择(KJV、NKJV、ASV、NASB、ESV、NIV)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Apr 26 15:42:56 2012, 美东)
博主注:ESV版本是目前美国改革宗教会如北美长老会PCA,正统长老会OPC,福音长老会E
PC等长老会和改革宗神学院“钦定”的译本。而目前美国长老会PCUSA使用的是NRSV。仅
供参考。所以平时读经,可能还是ESV更加好一点。而研经的时候可以NASB,NKJV和原文
参考。经与美国改革宗译者交流,觉得其实各个版本都挺不错,但是正统译本(新世界
译本是异端耶证的)中,最不建议的就是信息版圣经(... 阅读全帖 |
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w**j 发帖数: 1032 | 16 Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed.
(Exodus 22:19 NAB)
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers,
with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord,
the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether
man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you
that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray
b... 阅读全帖 |
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l***c 发帖数: 1634 | 17 白脖经
Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman
who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man
intimately, spare for yourselves.Numbers 31:17-18
He [Josiah] executed the priests of the pagan shrines on their own altars,
and he burned human bones on the altars to desecrate them…. He did this in
obedience to all the laws written in the scroll that Hilkiah the priest had
found in the LORD’s Temple. Never before had there been a king like Josiah... 阅读全帖 |
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e****t 发帖数: 17914 | 18 NLT是什么意思?
I will ship the computer NLT Tuesday. |
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L*****y 发帖数: 4290 | 19 no late than
NLT是什么意思?
I will ship the computer NLT Tuesday. |
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G******e 发帖数: 9567 | 20 【Isaiah 47:2-3】
NESV
"Take the millstones and grind meal. Remove your veil, strip off the skirt,
Uncover the leg, cross the rivers. "Your nakedness will be uncovered, Your
shame also will be exposed; I will take vengeance and will not spare a man."
NLT
Take heavy millstones and grind flour. Remove your veil, and strip off your
robe. Expose yourself to public view. You will be naked and burdened with
shame. I will take vengeance against you without pity."
以赛亚书 47: 2-3 要用磨磨面。揭去帕子,脱去长衣,露腿趟河。你的下体必被露... 阅读全帖 |
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j*****6 发帖数: 1059 | 21 Good vesions:
ESV, NIV, NASB, NLT, KJV
thanks for sharing.
I did not know NLT use this translation. very good.
However, eventhough we use other translations, we should know that Word was
God. |
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b********n 发帖数: 38600 | 22 http://www.whatthehellbook.com/the-book/
We find at the end of the Bible, in Revelation, the description of a final
judgment. We should remember that this is an apocryphal writing. It is full
of imagery, metaphors, symbolism, and dramatic language. It is extremely
difficult to understand and we should be very careful before basing a belief
on this book alone. The NLT translates Revelation 20:13-14 as, “The sea
gave up its dead, and death and the grave gave up their dead. And all were
judged acco... 阅读全帖 |
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J*****3 发帖数: 4298 | 23 http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/TrustInJesus/827821.html
连环杀手杀人也是发自内心的,
These quotes and many others have been used by christian serial killers in
order to justify their crimes. This is in direct contradiction of christian
claims that christianity is a religion of “peace” and “love”.
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the
priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must
be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
A priest's daug... 阅读全帖 |
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J*****3 发帖数: 4298 | 24 These quotes and many others have been used by christian serial killers in
order to justify their crimes. This is in direct contradiction of christian
claims that christianity is a religion of “peace” and “love”.
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the
priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must
be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and
thereby dishonors... 阅读全帖 |
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J*****3 发帖数: 4298 | 25 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 说说科学 These quotes and many others have been used by christian serial killers in
order to justify their crimes. This is in direct contradiction of christian
claims that christianity is a religion of “peace” and “love”.
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the
priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must
be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and
thereby dishonors... 阅读全帖 |
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S******A 发帖数: 238 | 26 This week's promise: God is merciful to us
Is God's mercy in your life evident to others?
All praise to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. He is the source
of every mercy and the God who comforts us. He comforts us in all our
troubles so that we can comfort others.
2 Corinthians 1:3-4 NLT
Since God chose you to be the holy people whom he loves, you must clothe
yourselves with tenderhearted mercy, kindness, humility, gentleness, and
patience.
Colossians 3:12 NLT
Clothed in mercy
It happ |
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x*l 发帖数: 120 | 27 最近教会在查传道书,用的是nlt。以前用和合本的时候(当然很多传统一点的英文译本
也存在这个问题)觉得语言特别隔膜,看文字是都懂,但不明白作者到底想表达什么意思
nlt的语言就流畅自然得多了,文字要表达的思想也会比较容易弄明白
比如下面这几段
9:3
在日光之下所行的一切事上有一件祸患,就是众人所遭遇的都是一样,并且世人的心充
满了恶;活着的时候心里狂妄,后来就归死人那里去了
It seems so tragic that one fate comes to all. That is why people are not
more careful to be good. Instead, they choose their own mad course, for they
have no hope. There is nothing ahead but death anyway.
11:1
当将你的粮食撒在水面,因为日久必能得着。
Give generously, for your gifts will return to you later
11:4
看风的,必不撒种;望云的,必不收 |
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G**B 发帖数: 371 | 28 〔每日靈修〕
【全年讀經進度】詩篇43
【今日默想禱讀經文】詩 43:3 -5
求你發出你的亮光和真實,好引導我,帶我到你的聖山,到你的居所!我就走
到 神的祭壇,到我最喜樂的神那裡。神啊,我的 神,我要彈琴稱讚你!
我的心哪,你為何憂悶?為何在我裡面煩躁?應當仰望 神,因我還要稱讚他。
他是我臉上的光榮(原文是幫助),是我的 神。
【今日信息】除去憂慮 By Rev. Andrew Tsai
憂慮就像那緩慢的蝸牛,悄悄地爬上了牆頭。它常在不知不覺中,抺去了你心
中一切喜樂的痕跡。憂慮又像是一片黑雲,突然籠罩著上空,片刻前還艷陽高照,刹那
間已是一片烏雲密佈。
要過喜樂的生活是何其的難啊!喜樂就有如終年陰霾的巴黎冬日裡的陽光;在冬日
裡的巴黎,要能看到陽光實在難得,常常是出現一下就不見了。當你看到陽光出現,想
趕緊進屋拿張椅子出來,在屋外享受片刻溫煦的陽光,沒想到椅子還在手上,烏雲就又
籠罩了過來,馬上又是陰霾一片。
在我們的生活中,人人都在尋找喜樂,但是喜樂卻因著人們忙碌和焦躁的生活腳步
,而難覓其踪。
憂慮究竟是什麼?其實,... 阅读全帖 |
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G**B 发帖数: 371 | 29 〔每日靈修〕
【全年讀經進度】詩篇43
【今日默想禱讀經文】詩 43:3 -5
求你發出你的亮光和真實,好引導我,帶我到你的聖山,到你的居所!我就走
到 神的祭壇,到我最喜樂的神那裡。神啊,我的 神,我要彈琴稱讚你!
我的心哪,你為何憂悶?為何在我裡面煩躁?應當仰望 神,因我還要稱讚他。
他是我臉上的光榮(原文是幫助),是我的 神。
【今日信息】除去憂慮 By Rev. Andrew Tsai
憂慮就像那緩慢的蝸牛,悄悄地爬上了牆頭。它常在不知不覺中,抺去了你心
中一切喜樂的痕跡。憂慮又像是一片黑雲,突然籠罩著上空,片刻前還艷陽高照,刹那
間已是一片烏雲密佈。
要過喜樂的生活是何其的難啊!喜樂就有如終年陰霾的巴黎冬日裡的陽光;在冬日
裡的巴黎,要能看到陽光實在難得,常常是出現一下就不見了。當你看到陽光出現,想
趕緊進屋拿張椅子出來,在屋外享受片刻溫煦的陽光,沒想到椅子還在手上,烏雲就又
籠罩了過來,馬上又是陰霾一片。
在我們的生活中,人人都在尋找喜樂,但是喜樂卻因著人們忙碌和焦躁的生活腳步
,而難覓其踪。
憂慮究竟是什麼?其實,... 阅读全帖 |
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w**j 发帖数: 1032 | 30
GOD = JESUS = BABY KILLER
Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little
children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will
be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up
the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them
off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows.
They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for
the children. (Isaiah 13:1... 阅读全帖 |
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w**j 发帖数: 1032 | 31 If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will
inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild
animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your
numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted. (Leviticus 26:21-22
NLT) |
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w**j 发帖数: 1032 | 32 Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little
children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will
be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up
the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them
off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows.
They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for
the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT) |
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w**j 发帖数: 1032 | 33 And at midnight the LORD killed all the firstborn sons in the land of
Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the
firstborn son of the captive in the dungeon. Even the firstborn of their
livestock were killed. Pharaoh and his officials and all the people of
Egypt woke up during the night, and loud wailing was heard throughout the
land of Egypt. There was not a single house where someone had not died. (
Exodus 12:29-30 NLT) |
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w**j 发帖数: 1032 | 34 The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for your children will
die at birth or perish in the womb or never even be conceived. Even if your
children do survive to grow up, I will take them from you. It will be a
terrible day when I turn away and leave you alone. I have watched Israel
become as beautiful and pleasant as Tyre. But now Israel will bring out her
children to be slaughtered." O LORD, what should I request for your people
? I will ask for wombs that don't give birth and bre... 阅读全帖 |
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w**j 发帖数: 1032 | 35 以前到没注意这条啊.
Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little
children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes
will
be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir
up
the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them
off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows.
They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for
the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT) |
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y****n 发帖数: 1397 | 37 LZ马甲补充列表
Alleluia
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c****o 发帖数: 1280 | 38 the liability is not high, but should be able to take of this case. Just
take it easy, let the insurance company handle it. Remember to increase your
liability coverage immediately (NLT 100K). |
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c****o 发帖数: 1280 | 39 the liability is not high, but should be able to take of this case. Just
take it easy, let the insurance company handle it. Remember to increase your
liability coverage immediately (NLT 100K). |
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p*******e 发帖数: 1749 | 40 基督教作为古老的宗教,当年不光要进化吸收日耳曼人的异教文化,发展出圣诞和万圣
节,后来还要面对科学和理性的质疑,最后演化成隐喻式的解释,很多基督徒相信圣经
实际上是上帝的启示下写就的,但是不能从字面理解
西方无神论者们对圣经的诸多攻击质疑当中,什么抹油真的是微乎其微的一条
其中很重要的有几个圣经故事,基督教核心信仰是上帝即使爱本身,上帝的信息是爱,
但是如果上帝如此,岂能让摩西请求法老释放奴隶的时候,又要同时收走法老的意志,
让他不能答应,然后降下灾难,并且残忍的谋杀所有埃及小孩
伊甸园是最著名的一个,圣经上明确写说夏娃没吃禁果的时候没有辨别是非的能力,所
以她也不知道吃禁果是犯错,上帝把蛇的诱惑降罪于亚当夏娃并且诅咒他们的后代,说
明上帝本身辨别是非的能力比较差……
另一个是所多玛的故事,所多玛民风淫荡上帝决定毁灭,但派下天使来调查,天使最后
决定只救出罗得一家人,罗得的妻子因为回望所多玛被编成盐柱,罗得的女儿就为了传
下罗得的种,把她们亲爹灌醉ooxx然后怀孕……
此外,Exodus 21:7-11 NLT还宣称可以出售自己的女儿…
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w******t 发帖数: 16937 | 41 分特,想看专业的?
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